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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
Thanks, Arivne.
Page 1000 @fateslay56
Arch-Enemy: To <- space Hanakuro, the former mayor of the island, as well as Yoshikazu's former best friend. <- period Hanakuro opposes him more than the other family members. <- no space
^ This was a run-on sentence connected together by a comma splice.
He also likes to sometimes turn bystanders into monsters.
He became the head of the crazy family and cult on the island by discovering the magical stones. He later uses them to take over the island alongside his family, <- comma using them to empower his family and himself. Yoshikazu <- space hunts down passengers to either Sacrifice them or convert them with his son Karou as The Heavy.
He is shown to make some lewd comments to women.
Even Evil Has Loved Ones: He is a deranged cannibalistic cult leader but in his own warped way.
^ This is a Partial-Context Example. What loved ones does he have?
Greed: He <- space wants to make money and take over the world for himself as his goal.
Expy: Of <- space Drayton Sawyer and Chop Top Sawyer from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre , <- commabeing the Greedy head of his family like the former, while having a metal head like the latter.
Lean and Mean: He <- space is quite thin in his normal self but is just as monstrous as his kin.
Manipulative Bastard: His <- space specialty. <- period For example, he takes advantage of <missing text> to convince...
^ This was a run-on sentence connected together by a comma splice.
^ He takes advantage of what?
A more twisted villainous example, <- comma as he is the head of his family and rules the island with them to terrorize the poor souls who enter it.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 1st 2023 at 9:56:11 AM
Page 1000 Fate Stay Who
As Blackarachnia insists she is still a Predacon <- no comma but she is also a...
During the filming of Blade Trinity <- no comma he was especially bad, <- comma as...
...into a foolhardy attack on the Predacon base that would get them all killed, <- comma as...
Dinobot is not excited about the idea of a rescue, <- comma as he fears he will be...
He makes do by beating Quickstrike with his bare hands...
...the more she tries to talk him out of it while denying that she cares about Silverbolt, <- comma the...
By this point all of his other options for victory are exhausted, <- comma so he is...
In Megatron's Motive Rant, <- comma he claims that...
Megatron has already been established as a Bad Boss who <missing text> and a sociopath who will take sacrifice...
^ Megatron has already been established as a Bad Boss who what?
Furious over Blackarachnia's Disney Death, Silverbolt.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 1st 2023 at 9:56:24 AM
Page 1000 @kawaiineko333
...Curse, with his left arm becoming petrified.
Page 1000 @JMK 031
Changed verbs to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.
She's easily gets distracted by small objects. At one point, she nearly falls off a bridge trying to reach a small flower drifting with the wind.
As stated on Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny! above, When she's about to fall off a bridge, Sakiko saves her in time before she actually falls, and mistakes her as a suicidal person.
^ Deleted text as per How to Write an Example - Don't Refer to Other Items on the Page and Word Cruft - Positional comparatives.
She entered Haneoka Girls High School mid-semester, <- comma transferring from an unnamed school.
She has pink hair <- no comma and is a Nice Girl enough to quickly make friends on the first day of her school transfer.
...though she only picked up the habit while watching other students there.
She quickly becomes hostile towards Anon after she finds out the latter invited Tomori to form a band while unaware of Tomori's past circumstances.
@Arrive Already fixed most of my post on Yoshikazu thanks for that.
How about this one? Necro Cop from Spawn.
- Robot Me: Necro Cop, is a robotic replica of Spawn created by scientists using his cape.
- The Brute: Otoki is a huge old lady who can change her size and is physically the strongest member of her family aside from her grandson Kaoru. She can lift heavy objects and literally towers anyone in close range combat.
Edited by fateslay56 on Jul 2nd 2023 at 8:56:53 AM
Hello world
Just a guy.
- Pet Fad Starter: The popularity of the series would briefly start a pet monkey fad in Sweden in the early 1960s, with people often importing and/or selling monkeys from other countries. Unsurprisingly, given that monkeys are well, wild animals (and aggressive wild animals at that), this led to a wave of monkey attacks across the country, resulting in many getting injured and hospitalized (one such story is recalled in humorous fashion here). It didn't help that the cold Swedish climate was not suitable for monkeys, causing hundreds of them to die, nor did it help that their presence brought with them dangerous diseases that were not native to Sweden. In response to the fad, the Riksdag passed a law that forbade the ownership of most exotic animals, including monkeys, stopping the fad and ensuring that similar fads won't happen again. Reportedly, Lindgren admitted that she would’ve never given Pippi a pet monkey had she known the fad would occur.
Edited by Tylerbear12 on Jul 2nd 2023 at 1:53:52 PM
@Arivne got it, thanks.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Torna
Malos
- Affably Evil: Malos is out to destroy the world, but he is polite, friendly, and amicable with his teammates.
- Demoted to Dragon: Malos terrorized Alrest independently in the past before working for Jin. Unlike most examples, his service is entirely voluntary.
- Graceful Loser: Even considering that he is a Death Seeker, Malos isn't bothered by losing the Final Battle with the protagonists.
- Hero Killer: Kills Vandam when he tries to hold Malos and Akhos.
- Hidden Depths: Despite reveling in destruction, Malos does regret the pain he caused Jin when they were enemies.
Beast Wars S 3 E 1 Optimal Situation
- Evil Versus Oblivion: Blackarachnia insists she is still a Predacon but is also a Maximal protoform, so she would be erased from existence along with the rest of the Maximals if Megatron's plan succeeds. This motivates her to help the Maximals save Optimus Prime.
- Jerkass Has a Point: In his Blade: Trinity review, Buck states that Wesley Snipes became a difficult man to work with later in his career. During the filming of Blade Trinity he was especially bad, as his hate for the movie meant he could only be bothered to show up on set when close-ups were filmed, made racist remarks to Ryan Reynolds, and reportedly made death threats towards the director. While Snipes' behavior was wrong and his contempt for the movie bleeding into his performance is among the issues Buck brings up, he also states that Snipes was right about the movie's quality, and it would have been bad even if Snipes brought his A-game.
Beast Wars S 1 E 9 A Better Mousetrap
- Jerkass Has a Point: Dinobot objects to the security system being designed with nonlethal responses. Rattrap attempts to demonstrate that Dinobot is overrating himself, but the initial nonlethal response Dinobot is hit with fails to stop him.
Beast Wars S 1 E 10 Gorilla Warfare
- Batman Gambit: Megatron's original plan is based around Optimus being turned into a coward, and knowing he would not want to stay that way, he would lead the Maximals into a foolhardy attack on the Predacon base that would get them all killed, as being a coward would render him useless as a leader. Optimus turning into a berserker ruined that
- Jerkass Has a Point: Dinobot advocates for using Optimus in his berserker state against the Predacons, which Rhinox and Rattrap object to. His idea proves the correct choice.
- Pet the Dog: Dinobot is not excited about the idea of a rescue coming for the Maximals, as he fears he will be arrested along with the rest of the Predacons. Nonetheless, he still helps the Maximals defend the array.
Beast Wars S 2 E 5 Maximal No More
- Bad Boss: Megatron sets a fight to the death between Dinobot and Quickstrike when the former says he wants to rejoin the Predacons and insists on Dinobot killing Quickstrike after the latter is beaten. It takes Dinobot pointing out it is a waste to kill him to convince Megatron to spare him.
- Oh, Crap!: Blackarachnia and Silverbolt are freaked out when see Tarantulas has been torn to pieces, and Silverbolt realizes that this is the doing of the very much alive and possibly immortal Protoform X.
- Ungrateful Bastard: The newly christened Rampage thanks Megatron for repairing him by pulling his rocket launcher on him. Though it turns out Megatron cut out part of his Spark and put it in a torture device to keep him obedient. So Rampage has every reason to be angry.
Beast Wars S 2 E 9 Code Of Hero
- Brought Down to Badass: Dinobot is exhausted and badly damaged after beating Inferno, Blackarachnia, Waspinator, and Rampage. When faced by Quickstrike, he barely has the energy to use his Eye Beams. He makes do by beating Quickstrike with his bare hands, and later wounds Megatron with an improvised hammer.
- Jerkass Has a Point: As always, Rattrap is cynical in a dire situation, saying the Maximals will not be able to arrive in time to save Dinobot. He is right.
- O.O.C. Is Serious Business: When Megatron explains the transwarp wavefront is moving into the future, Rampage states he awaits Megatron's execution at the hands of the Maximals, and the proud Megatron does not deny that is a likely outcome unless he changes history to ensure the Maximals will not be coming.
Beast Wars S 2 E 10 Transmutate
- Curb-Stomp Battle: Rampage demolishes Silverbolt at the end of the episode and likely would have killed him if not for Transmutate's interference.
- The Dog Bites Back: Inferno beating Transmutate causes her to blast him.
- O.O.C. Is Serious Business: The normally idealistic and upbeat Silverbolt is livid at his fellow Maximals for suggesting they put Transmutate into stasis lock, saying they are as bad as the Predacons.
Beast Wars S 2 E 11 The Agenda Part 1
- Minor Major Character: The Tripedacus Council are the leaders of the Predacons and have their own plans to rule Cybertron. But their meeting this episode is their only appearance and while they do have a major impact by sending Ravage, they play no further role in the series.
- Pragmatic Villainy: The Tripedacus Council's reasons for wanting Megatron dead. They would prefer to take over Cybertron slowly through political manipulations, and Megatron's schemes pose a danger to their plans.
Beast Wars S 2 E 12 The Agenda Part 2
- Crazy-Prepared: The original Megatron anticipated the possibility he would lose the Great War and left behind a message for Decepticon descendants to use transwarp technology to change history.
- Riddle for the Ages: What the original Megatron says in his message before it cuts out is never explained, though the plan he left behind is explained in the following episode.
Beast Wars S 2 E 13 The Agenda Part 3
- Blatant Lies: Blackarachnia tries to bluff Megatron out of killing Silverbolt by saying she does not care about him. Megatron isn't fooled, and the more she tries to talk him out of it while denying that she cares about Silverbolt, the more obvious it is she is lying.
- Godzilla Threshold: Megatron following the plan of his namesake. He admits he was initially unwilling out of fear of what would happen if he changed history by killing Optimus Prime. By this point all of his other options for victory are exhausted, so he is prepared to take that chance.
- It's All About Me: Megatron rants about the Predacons getting a raw deal being ruled by the Maximals, but above all else, he sees Cybertron as being rightfully his to rule, to the point where he will risk his very existence by changing history to claim it.
- Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist: In Megatron's Motive Rant, he claims that the Predacons are slaves under the rule of the Maximals, but he makes it clear he feels the Predacons are the rightful rulers of Cybertron and he wants to rule Cybertron himself. On top of this, he is prepared to risk the very existence of himself and all other Predacons by radically changing history. So as usual, he makes it clear his motives simply amount to wanting the Predacons to rule the universe with him at the helm.
- The Unfettered: Megatron has already been established as a Bad Boss who sees his underlings as expendable and a sociopath who will sacrifice anything to achieve his goals. With his other options for conquering Cybertron unavailable, he makes the decision to alter history, risking the very existence of him and all other Predacons if it means they will rule Cybertron.
Beast Wars S 3 E 9 Crossing The Rubicon
- Hoist Hero over Head: Inverted. After beating Tarantulas, Silverbolt attempts to kill the villain by lifting him over his head before slamming him onto a spear.
- Humiliation Conga: After he nearly kills Blackarachnia, Tarantulas is nearly killed by Silverbolt. Rampage prevents Tarantulas from being killed, but Silverbolt still uses him as a human shield against Rampage's missile.
- Unstoppable Rage: Furious over Blackarachnia's Disney Death, Silverbolt goes after Tarantulas and nearly kills him.
Not the Eye
For Complete Monster.
- The Last Kids on Earth: Rezzoch, destructor of worlds, is ancient being who devours worlds and one rensposible for the apocalypse. She razed monster’s original world and plans to do same to Earth with the help of her servant Thrull. Abandoning Thrull after his failure, Rezzoch posseses and mutates King Wrench in order to use him as a dorway to Earth. Rezzoch plans to make Jake Sullivan her vessel, subjecting him to Mind Rape and tries to kill all his friends out of spite.
Edited by EmperorGeode on Jul 2nd 2023 at 2:37:26 AM
@EmperorGeode
[...] Rezzoch plans to make Jake Sullivan her vessel, subjecting him to Mind Rape, and tries to kill all his friends out of spite.
Also, what do you mean by this?
thanks, Arivne.
Spyx Family: Forger Family & Associates:
- Yuri Brair:
- Worf Had the Flu: In the WISE Traitor Arc, Yuri was able to shoot Twilight in the shoulder and force him to fight seriously due to his own high durability. However, due to Yuri being Yor's brother, Twilight hesitated in shooting him and refrained from killing him due to not wanting to make Yor sad. If it wasn't for Yuri being Yor's brother, he would have killed him on the spot.
Unlucky rabbit's foot user
When I made a general bullet for Incesticide in Awesome Music.Nirvana, I was notified via PM that it wasn't gramatically correct (specifically from "manages" onwards).
- The band's B-sides compilation album, Incesticide, manages to retain some good mentions of songs:
So I decided to change up the grammar a bit the re-implement the short description (as every other album mentioned in the page has one).
- Despite being a compilation album of B-sides, Incesticide still has some tracks that deserve a mention.
Is my change gramatically correct? It's the only thing I want to ask, since otherwise my English grammar is alright. It's just that I sometimes don't know how to structure certain bullets (such as first-level ones with a short description and multiple second-level bullets below them).
Also, because the original description was cut from the page after I was notified, I don't want to make the addition of a different one look like an edit war.
Edited by Inky100 on Jul 2nd 2023 at 9:02:31 PM
A lot of good you did me.
Madness Combat: Characters: Hank
- Eye Glasses: With his "Antipathy" design, his glasses occasionally squint. In "Antipathy", it makes him look determined, while in 9.5, it makes him look uncomfortable.
Helluva Boss S 2 E 4 Western Energy
- Accidental Misnaming: The doctor refers to Blitzo and Loona as Bingo and Tuna.
- Comically Missing the Point: When Blitzo explains to the receptionnist that his name is spelled with a silent "o", she thinks that Blitzo's last name is "O".
- Innocently Insensitive: The receptionist pronounces the "o" in Blitzo's name, unaware that it's offensive to him for personnal reasons.
- Made of Plasticine: The red hat succubus is easily beheaded by a fuel pump squeezing his neck until his head pops out of his body.
- Number of the Beast: A cameraman's camera has "666" written on it.
- Post-Treatment Lollipop: When Blitzo and Loona leave the hospital, Loona is holding a lollipop.
- Shout-Out: When Blitzo drops the woman on the ground, she's in the memetic Family Guy dead pose.
- "Wanted!" Poster: Thorough the episode, we can see "Wanted" posters for Striker, with "Preferably dead please" written below Striker's picture.
Uncle Albert's Adventures
- Idiosyncratic Episode Naming: Each mainline game follow a title pattern consisting of "Uncle Albert's [Adjective] [Noun]".
Not the Eye
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@fateslay56
Necro Cop is a robotic replica of Spawn created by scientists using Spawn's cape.
^ When you're talking about two or more characters with the same gender, please be careful when you replace their names with gendered pronouns so you don't risk confusing the reader.
Otoki is a huge old lady who can change her size and is physically the strongest member of her family aside from her grandson Kaoru.
^ You only need to specify that the strength is physical if you're also talking about another kind of strength, such as mental strength.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 2nd 2023 at 8:35:55 AM
...with people often importing and/or selling monkeys from other countries.
In response to the fad, the Riksdag passed a law that...Reportedly, Lindgren admitted that...
Rezzoch, destructor of worlds, is an ancient being who devours worlds and is the one responsible for the apocalypse. She razed the monster’s original world and plans to do the same to Earth with the help of her servant Thrull. Abandoning Thrull after his failure, Rezzoch possesses and mutates King Wrench in order to use him as a doorway to Earth.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 2nd 2023 at 8:06:08 AM
Dian Wei
- A Death in the Limelight: The first DLC, BATTLE OF ZHONGYUAN is heavy focus on him from suppress the remaining Yellow Turban, recruiting Xu Chu to his own dead at the end of DLC
- Bash Brothers: with Xu Chu.
- The Leader: He is head of the Cao Cao's guard.
- One-Winged Angel: He become demonic bird-human after takes the Elixir.
- Passing the Torch: He pass his role as Cao Cao's guard-leader and his divine beast to Xu Chu.
- Undying Loyalty: To Cao Cao, he willing give his all to protect his lord even sacrifice his own and become demon by taking the Elixir.
Xu Chu
- Bash Brothers: with Dian Wei.
- Defeat Means Friendship: He becomes an ally after his defeat by the Protagonist and Dian Wei.
- The Leader: He leading his village's resistance group again the remaining Yellow Turban. Laters, He become head of the Cao Cao's guard.
- Take Up My Sword: He inherit Dian Wei's role as leader of the Cao Cao's guard and his divine beast, the Feilian after Dian Wei's dead which lead to...
- Took a Level in Badass: He is already badass. After he inherited the Feilian, He is completely nightmare.
@seekmsn
In the WISE Traitor Arc, Yuri is able to shoot Twilight in the shoulder and force him to fight seriously due to his own high durability. However, due to Yuri being Yor's brother, Twilight hesitates in shooting him and refrains from...
^ Changed verbs to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.
- An Aesop:
- It's important to embrace change and not let fear control you.
The Director
- Control Freak: Is there a more accurate term to describe an individual who places a higher value on maintaining the kingdom's prosperity by rigidly adhering to the current state of affairs, even if it puts the lives of citizens in jeopardy, rather than being open to the possibility of their fallacy?
Edited by jahman on Jul 2nd 2023 at 8:16:15 AM
Despite being a compilation album of B-sides, Incesticide still has some tracks that deserve a mention.
^ This is the one you want proofread, correct?
^ I don't see any English errors in it.
I think the reason your first try was considered not correct was that it didn't make it clear that you thought that the work being a compilation made it likely to be bad.
Your second try makes it much clearer that's what you meant.
To avoid a possible Edit War when re-adding it, you should first go to that page and do the things listed under "If you think an edit war may be about to start, use the various communication systems we provide to talk it out. These include:"
In short, you need to gain consensus before changing it to the new version.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 2nd 2023 at 8:34:59 AM
@jOSEFdelaville
The receptionist pronounces the "o" in Blitzo's name, unaware that it's offensive to him for personal reasons.
...beheaded by a fuel pump squeezing his neck until his head pops off of his body.
^ If his head actually is inside his body, "out" would be correct. However, if that's the case, you should say so so the reader knows you aren't making a mistake.
Throughout the episode <- no comma we can see "Wanted" posters for Striker <- no comma with...
Each mainline game follows a title pattern consisting of...
Edited by Arivne on Jul 2nd 2023 at 8:34:29 AM
The first DLC, Battle of Zhongyuan, <- comma is heavily focused on him suppressing the remaining Yellow Turbans, recruiting Xu Chu to his own dead at the end of the DLC. <- period
^ "recruiting Xu Chu to his own dead" is not correct English, but I can't tell what you meant to write.
Bash Brothers: With Xu Chu.
^ This is a Zero-Context Example because it doesn't say how they fit the trope.
He becomes a demonic bird-human after taking the Elixir.
He passes his role as Cao Cao's guard-leader and his divine beast to Xu Chu.
To Cao Cao. <- period He willingly gives his all to protect his lord, <- comma even sacrificing his own life and becoming a demon by taking the Elixir.
Bash Brothers: With Dian Wei.
^ Also a Zero-Context Example.
He becomes an ally after his defeat by the Protagonist and Dian Wei.
^ Is Dian Wei the Protagonist? If so, it should be:
He becomes an ally after his defeat by the Protagonist, <- comma and Dian Wei.
He leads his village's resistance group against the remaining Yellow Turbans. Later, he becomes head of the Cao Cao's guard.
He inherits Dian Wei's roles as leader of the Cao Cao's guard and his divine beast <- no comma and the Feilian after Dian Wei's death, <- comma which leads to... <missing text>
After he inherits the Feilian, he is a complete nightmare.
Edited by Arivne on Jul 2nd 2023 at 8:53:54 AM
Page 1000 @sdewap
Historically, they likely only met once when Sanada Yukimura and his army engaged in...
Edited by Arivne on Jul 1st 2023 at 9:55:38 AM