Opened and paging ~badtothebaritone to the thread. I think this should be deprecated, but I'm not sure how to do it (I don't know if a full-fledged cut can be done due to inbounds).
Edit: I closed an accidental duplicate thread.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 28th 2023 at 8:36:48 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I'm okay with a disambiguation.
I'm sure some stock jokes have their own pages, so they can be other possible disambiguation targets. Chicken Joke and White Dude, Black Dude, for example.
Edited by Berrenta on Feb 28th 2023 at 8:56:13 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportI discovered that this is indexed on Recorded and Stand-Up Comedy. What about redirecting to that page, since it has a list of tropes? Or disambiguating between that and the previously mentioned stock jokes. Maybe disambiguating would be better per what was said about stock jokes.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 28th 2023 at 9:00:00 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Disambiguation sounds good.
I think Stock Jokes is a better redirect target since not all the examples are based on stand-up comedy.
Reading the wick checks, the majority of the examples either fit into a existing Stock Joke tropes or is one we don't have yet. "X walks into a Y" joke and "airplane food is terrible" jokes seem to be most common on the wick check.
In that case, yeah, let's redirect to Stock Jokes.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I wonder if we can merge some parts of Stock Shticks (at least some of the description) to Stock Jokes, as since 2021 it seems to have jokes that don't have own pages
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupWe can probably do that before redirecting.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.There would be precedent in turning that one into a supertrope instead of an index if it wasn't for the fact that there are no on-page examples to move. But yes, Stock Shticks needs to go since the page is a mess, and merging with Stock Jokes sounds good.
I'll also make an IP thread for the image once consensus is called.
I'd like to apologize for all this.(nvm, miscounted the number of days)
Edited by FernandoLemon on Mar 2nd 2023 at 12:03:06 PM
I'd like to apologize for all this.Don't worry about it. When I checked the thread earlier this morning, I had to think a bit harder about the timestamp because February doesn't play by the rules when it comes to months usually being at least 30 days long.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 2nd 2023 at 10:19:13 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Are we ready for a crowner, or no?
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallWe are ready for one, so hooked.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Calling in favor of merging with Stock Jokes.
Remember to move non-duplicate entries to Stock Jokes before redirecting the page.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 5th 2023 at 1:54:23 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.We don't add wicks as examples, right?
Edited by FernandoLemon on Mar 6th 2023 at 12:50:46 PM
I'd like to apologize for all this.Moved the redirects over.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportWorking on the off-page wicks—Main is done. 67 left.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallStill working on this—deleting all trope uses because Stock Jokes is an index and we don't use indexes as tropes IIRC. Is that correct?
And another question—do we really need to merge the on-page examples for Stock Shticks? Basically none of them have context.
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Mar 8th 2023 at 7:28:19 AM
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallThey're just a list of gags. If there's an associated trope, add to the Stock Jokes index if it's not there, and those that don't go in the other section of the page.
Edited by Berrenta on Mar 9th 2023 at 9:20:47 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportOff-page wick cleanup is done, minus the Sandbox namespace and a Pantheon link—I let the Pantheon thread know about the latter.
Now we do on-page. Assuming I don't do it first, requesting the to-do list be updated to account for this.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI've transplanted the joke list. A good chunk of them have no context, but it seems like that's OK?
I'm going to merge anyway. Ping me if there's a problem.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallRedirect is done! We can (I assume) close now.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallStock Shtick still has some wicks to it but it should take me less than 10 mins to clean them all. Locking as resolved.
Macron's notes
Crown Description:
There have been concerns that Stock Shticks is redundant with Stock Jokes. What should be done with Stock Shticks?
To-do list:
Stock Shticks is an old page that houses a list of common joke types. It has no on-page examples despite not being No On-Page Examples, as is common among pages this old, and its wicks mainly follow the pattern "a joke of a common type is told", negative reception optional. The name is also a bad snowclone of the "Stock X" variety.
I suggest disambiguating between Pun, Lame Pun Reaction, and possibly other tropes, though I'm open to other options. I think there might be potential for a trope about amateur, unfunny comedians who overuse stock jokes like the ones this trope covers.
Summary of Shtick Check:
Wick check:
Warren: Witch? Which witch?
Doctor Fate: Captain.
Captain Cold: Just need a priest, and we can walk into a bar.
Mike: And shouldn't you be walking into a bar somewhere?
Ed: Found one. [Brings him Edd's hand, giggling at his own joke.]
Edd: This joke is older than my Mesozoic fossil collection, Ed.
Ed: Whoops, there it goes. Yep, my brain stopped.
Cop #2: Hold on now. Is this a joke?
Cop #1: —? NO!
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 5th 2023 at 1:57:02 PM
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