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alt title(s): Decadent Gay
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The Spear Counterpart of the Psycho Lesbian, and the monosexual counterpart to the Depraved Bisexual. Usually a villainous take on the Camp Gay. His motive is usually either his "depraved" sexuality, or an unrequited love, like his Psycho Lesbian sister.
If he's not explicitly gay, but it wouldn't be surprising, he's a Sissy Villain.
Examples:
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Anime & Manga
- Hisoka from Hunter X Hunter. If he's not killing someone, he's usually hitting on the main (male) characters, including the 12 year old protagonists.
- Peacemaker Kurogane has Suzu become this after being raped at the hands of an old man. The anime-only characters Kichisaburo and Maro are both shown to be homosexual, and both are depicted as being depraved psychos. Ito, who is shown to be explicitly homosexual, is also very much depraved. Also, the old man that raped Suzu is one, too. In fact, pretty much every character that is shown overtly to be homosexual is depraved and psychotic.
- While the characters mentioned certainly fit the trope, other, much more sympathetic characters are pretty strongly implied to be gay or bisexual, rather averting the implication that they're ALL depraved. Off the top of my head—Heisuke makes more than a few references to men and boys he finds attractive or may or may not have slept with, and he's shown as a good, fun sort of guy , if not one who has some trouble making good life choices. Saitou, while he may or may not actually be interested in men (who knows with him?), is willing enough to pretend to be for information. And general dynamics of Ho Yay between various cast members aside, there are always Hijikata and Okita, who always seem just one step shy of being an Official Couple (with Hijikata's voice actor going so far as to respond to a remark about his character having given up romantic pursuits for his mission with, essentially, "Uh...no"). In fact, given that the whole thing is set in the more-or-less privileged classes of late-Edo period Japan, one could make the argument that historical context rather suggests an Everyone Is Bi situation.
- Subverted, played around with, and possibly averted in Yu Yu Hakusho. Sensui is gay, and crazy, but he is not disturbed due to his sexuality like other Depraved Homosexual characters- he lost his mind while on a mission to the Black Black Club's villa, seeing human cruelty towards demons. His relationship with his partner Itsuki, knowing about their respective character traits as a Nietzsche Wannabe and a Psycho Supporter, is surprisingly complex and realistic.
- As a matter of fact, one can make the case that Sensui's sexuality is a result of his insanity/seeing that Humans Are Bastards (in order to avoid Moral Dissonance), instead of the cause, making this also an Inverted Trope.
- Karasu practically embodies this trope. He wants to own Kurama, and considers killing him slowly and painfully to be the very best and most intimate way to do so. His depravity and overall creepiness is given more focus than the fact that he's homosexual, though.
- Tomo in Fushigi Yuugi.
- Subverted in One Piece with Mr. 2 Bon Clay. He does start off as a villain, but it's also pretty clear that he's a nice guy who just happened to be on the wrong side. After the criminal organization he was part of was broken up, he becomes an ally of the Straw Hats, and does so many awesome things helping them, that I doubt anyone really cares about his past as a villain anymore.
- Inuyasha is pretty much the poster show for this, as literally every openly homosexual character who has appeared has been a depraved sociopath. The only exception is Jakotsu, who started out as a Depraved Homosexual, but became quite more sympathetic as the show went on and we saw his fierce loyalty to his best friend and leader Bankotsu... only to have him dying. To be fair, though, both he and his friend were in a Psycho For Hire group that was wiped away, so Jakotsu's death is NOT linked to his sexuality.
- A popular fan theory speculates that Rolo Haliburton/Lamperouge, Lelouch's "fake brother" in Code Geass, is a Depraved Homosexual who killed Lelouch's prospect girlfriend, Shirley Fenette solely out of pure jealousy.
- A similar and perhaps stronger case could be made concerning V.V., who very canonically and unambigiously killed Marianne entirely out of jealousy and resentment concerning all the attention she was getting from his brother Charles.
- Creed from Black Cat, though not stated explicitly, exhibits many overt signs of being an example of this trope. With the way he dresses, the way he obviously has perverted fantasies about Train, and his unreasonable jealousy towards anyone remotely close to Train makes him a very likely example of a Depraved Homosexual.
- One of the teachers in the Revolutionary Girl Utena anime is strongly hinted to be a Depraved Homosexual, one who's aiming to have his way with Miki. When his sister Kozue takes note of this things go very badly for the teacher very quickly.
- MW looks like it's setting up for this early on with the relationship and backstory between the two lead characters. But it's later subverted when the better part of a chapter is used to deliver an aesop about how the world is becoming more accepting of homosexuality and there's nothing wrong with it, and the villain protagonist's gay relationship comes off as one of his few humanizing characteristics by the end. This is particularly notable as the series was written in 1976.
- Gauron from Full Metal Panic, depending on whether one chooses to follow the novels (where he managed to successfully execute his Hikaru Genji Plan with male twins) or the anime (where the twins were female, making him a Depraved Bisexual). But no matter which version, one thing is for sure: he is a complete and total pervert for Sousuke. Seriously? Getting stiffies over fantasizing that he would rape the poor 16-year-old's dead body after he slowly kills him? The poor boy was completely horrified and traumatized when Gauron took the opportunity to let him know what his plans for him were.
- Genkaku from Deadman Wonderland, after getting repeatedly raped and beaten by a group of bullies (who were monk trainees like him) at the temple during his childhood, became gay and insane. He seems to express disgust and contempt towards women, and is shown to have a strong attraction to Nagi. In fact, he pretty much confesses to Nagi that he "loved him."
- Grelle Sutcliffe from Kuroshitsuji. The anime plays his actions as Rape As Comedy but in the manga he's just plain psycho for Sebastian.
- However, his affections are not just limited to Sebastian. In general, he loves to flirt with any male, that takes his fancy. For example, with William Spears, he seems enamored by his eyes, saying they send chills up his spine. In the anime, he also chased Pluto once (a dog, who was then in human form), saying he made his hunk radar go off. Also, he once looked into Undertaker's eyes, and, after seeing how beautiful they were, got excited and asked Undertaker to hug him.
- Katekyo Hitman Reborn has Lussuria, who not only hits on jailbait but is also a necrophiliac. See also Camp Gay and Hard Gay.
- Professor Aizawa from Sukisho.
- To a lesser extent, there is also Kai Nagase, Aizawa's son. Depraved homosexuality apparently runs in the family.
- To some extent, Phantom in MAR. He is obsessed with Alviss, but that almost overlaps with Foe Yay. The manga shows this as well, but it's mild compared to the anime. Particularly episodes 88-91 are especially squicky to this troper, when Alviss is under the influence of the Zombie Tattoo and Phantom basically hypnotizes him into coming to the Chess Pieces’ Castle. [1]
 [2] To make matters worse, Alviss is 16 and Phantom is 30. So again, this troper finds the whole situation very squicky indeed. Although Phantom did mention he loved a girl who turns out to be the ghost Ginta meets in the underground lake in Vestry
- Some of the men that Souma sleeps with in Sakura Gari are Depraved Homosexual's.
Comic Books
- The Sandman: The Corinthian likes guys. Also, he likes guys' eyes. Whether these two are connected, I am unsure. Either way. He's not particularly camp (more Nightmare Fuel Unleaded) and the only suggestion (outside of the continuation of stories in The Dreaming) that he's homosexual usually center around his choice of victims. (It helps that he takes a distinct relish in despoiling innocence that implies eye-taking is at least as good as sex for him.)
Film
- Cruising, starring Al Pacino, is about a cop chasing a gay serial killer through the New York City Leatherman community, circa 1980. It's implied that being around S&M turns Pacino gay, and possibly murderous as well.
- Almost all male child molesters in any media are shown to be homosexuals who molest boys. This even though most child molesters in Real Life are heterosexuals in adult relationships with women, and the fact that the majority of child molestation victims (possibly as high as 35 to 1 for penetrative rape, according to some police statistics) are girls.
- Some Truth In Television in that the child molestors who hit the media tend to be those who indulge in molestation on an industrial scale - and quite a lot of them tend to be men who molest boys. The majority of child molestation, as noted above, is usually carried out against 'stepdaughters'.
- All of the rapists in Prison Rape sequences. Unless they are portrayed as straight but seeking dominance through rape, like the guys in The Shawshank Redemption. As Morgan Freeman says, they're not homosexuals because they aren't even really human. And Morgan Freeman knows everything.
- Andy Warhol was portrayed in this manner (by Guy Pierce!) in Factory Girl (2006). So much so that one reviewer referred to the character as "Andy Warhol, or, as this film wants you to know him, Darth Warhol."
- The 1961 short film Boys Beware, produced by Sid Davis. It was intended to be shown in high schools to warn teenage boys about the dangers of gay men. This film has become famous on the internet for lines such as "What Jimmy didn't know was that Ralph was sick. A sickness that was not visible like smallpox, but no less dangerous and contagious — a sickness of the mind. You see, Ralph was a homosexual." Another fun element: the violent contrast between the hysterical condemnation of homosexuality and the unconditional endorsement it gives the practice of hitchhiking.
- Even more dissonant is that the way Ralph acts (very touchy) is not the problem even though today someone who gave young boys a ride and pats on the back would certainly be assumed gay or at least creepy instantly.
- Gay or at least creepy? See above for confusion of "gay" and "pedophile".
- The X-Files: I Want to Believe is guilty of this, with Callum Keith Rennie's serial killer kidnapping young women to build his boyfriend a girl-body.
- One has to hope that said boyfriend is actually a Transsexual and that said serial killer is actually bisexual because otherwise, well. Slight ''problems'' might arise in the relationship.
- Add that to the plot of the evil psychic gay pedophile priest in the movie and The X-Files movie probably should have been called "X-Files: I Want To Believe Gay People Are Evil".
- At least the pedophile priest seems to be genuinely repentant of his crimes.
- Parodied and subverted in Cecil B. Demented, where sadistic hairdresser Rodney takes his frustration over being heterosexual out on other people by abusing them physically.
- Todd from Wedding Crashers.
- Just about any film of the Easter story portrays King Herod thus.
- As a matter of fact, all records that mention his sexuality present Herod as a raging heterosexual hedonist with several wives and concubines, with the idea of him being gay a slander started by his enemies.
- Irreversible has a whole club full of these, one of which is a nasty piece of work called le Tenia, 'the Tapeworm'. Despite his orientation, he's the one who rapes and beats Monica Bellucci's character, Alex.
Literature
- This trope probably has its origins in The Green Carnation, a truly slanderous roman a clef written in the 1890s and featuring villains based on Oscar Wilde and his lover Alfred "Bosie" Douglas who plot to defraud a young widow of her fortune. They are assisted by a kind of Yaoi Fangirl based on Wilde's real-life Fag Hag Ada "Sphinx" Leverson.
- Another early example was E. W. Hornung's Raffles stories. Hornung intended the stories to subvert the glamor of the Gentleman Thief; Raffles was no Robin Hood in the original stories, just a criminal. Although expressed very discreetly between the lines, the relationship between Raffles and his pathetically submissive sidekick/victim Bunny Manders was definitely homosexual (see discussion under Ho Yay). This troper thinks that the way Raffles is shown relating to Bunny is definitely exploitive and abusive. Hornung was frustrated that his readers insisted on seeing Raffles as glamorous anyhow; his later stories, where he portrayed Raffles more brutally, were less popular. More recent takes on Raffles invariably go the Robin Hood, detective, or other hero route.
- Djuna Barnes' Rule Abiding Rebel book Nightwood portrays all gay men as being like this. The woman are Psycho Lesbians.
- Dyan Ardais in Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series, although he eventually redeems himself somewhat.
- There's only one character in the Elenium trilogy by David Eddings who is confirmed to be homosexual, and that's Baron Harparin. He's a noted pederast. When he gets beheaded toward the end of the series, one character comments that a whole generation of little boys will probably remember the knight who killed him in their prayers every night.
- James Ellroy's The Big Nowhere is chock-full of these. One uses the gay escort service he runs to out and blackmail his clients; another, a closeted actor, sexually abuses his own son; and the son himself goes on to become a serial killer. The only sympathetic gay men in the entire book, Danny Upshaw, kills himself to avoid being outed.
- Terry Goodkind's The Sword Of Truth: Darken Rahl's flunky is a pederast who cannot remember how many boys he has molested. Rahl, who knows this, nevertheless uses him to acquire boys to be killed in a special kind of Cold Blooded Torture that requires that the victim be a virgin.
- Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in Dune. It's very clear that his nephew Feyd-Rautha, the Kwisatz-Haderach-that-might-have-been, is redeemable — he may rape slaves, but he only rapes girl slaves. Uncle Vladimir is utterly depraved — we can tell, because he fucks boys.
- And, to make sure it's doubly obvious he's evil, he specifically likes to rape boys that look like the main character. And he's enormously fat. And he's Russian. Well, Russian first name and (cod-?)Finnish last name, but close enough.
- Baron Harkonnen's last name is supposed to be Finnish? This Finnish troper wouldn't have guessed in million years. Now, if it was Härkönen...
- Maybe they stopped in America between Finland and Giedi Prime? That tends to get rid of diacritics real fast.
- And in 1965, when the first book was published, being a homosexual Russian pedophile was a big deal (all other considerations aside, this was during the height of the Cold War; being a Russian—or at least having a Russian name—was a no-no). And David Lynch goes even further with his 1984 film adaptation, portraying the Baron as diseased—covered with grotesque boils, presumably suffering from some manner of pox (although most of the inhabitants of Geidi Prime in Lynch's adaptation appear to be either diseased or malformed, or both)—and quite mad...even though the book itself implies neither.
- Deconstructed in Armistead Maupin's novel Maybe the Moon (set in 1990), in which a Straight Gay actor plays a cop chasing a Stereotype Gay killer in a movie. His boyfriend is pissed.
- Claggart in Herman Melville's Billy Budd. It's his Freudian Excuse.
- The killer in the Ellery Queen novel The Last Woman in His Life.
- Male example: a monk named Ambrose, in Candace Robb's medieval mystery The Apothecary Rose. (The next book, however, contains a totally sympathetic character (Martin Werther) who is gay. Secretly, of course.)
- Leslie Marmon Silko's Almanac of the Dead received some criticism for this as several of the main villains are gay.
- Lord Fujiwara from Tales Of The Otori. His homosexuality is portrayed as being coincidental to his depravity, however.
- Darkspell, the second book of Katharine Kerr's Deverry series, features two evil, homosexual wizards who engage in rape rituals to replenish their magical powers.
- Anno Dracula has Vardalek, a diseased, murderously sadistic member of the Carpathian Guard.
Live Action TV
- 24 has a quite baffling scene late in season seven with Leland Orser playing his usual slimy villain role, who is briefly seen in bed with a man for literally no reason at all.
- Averted in Allo Allo, where the gay and bisexual German officers tend to be the most genial and harmless of the lot.
Tabletop Games
- Slaanesh worshipers in the Warhammer40000 / Warhammer universes are often depicted this way. Of course, they have moved beyond homosexuality and will hump Anything That Moves once just to see what it is like. However, in what may or may not be an example of Unfortunate Implications, Slaanesh worshipers are the only characters in the Warhammer continuities who ever even hint at being gay. Creating an impression that ALL homosexuals end up as drug-addled false-idol-fondling heathen devil-pagans having wild drug-fueled orgies with men, women, beasts, aliens, mutants, demons and whatever else has a conveniently sized hole in it.
- Given the Empire's large and powerful Church Militant and the Imperium's attitude to, well, everything, it can probably be assumed that anyone even suspected of being gay is burned. Possibly on the grounds of "we need you to breed more troops so don't be gay".
- You obviously haven't read enough Slash Fic... wait, nevermind.
- That's why we have Ciaphas Cain, who has a number of gay characters none are evil
- However, Ciaphas Cain is a work of parody so it is questionable if the books can be considered hard Canon.
- Technically, none of the novelizations are hard canon, and the sourcebooks don't really go into the Depraved Homosexual Slaaneshi cultist thing to any noticible extent, So Yeah.
Theater
- Some critics believe that Iago is one of these in the Shakespeare play Othello, driven to destroy Othello because of his unrequited homosexual love for the Moorish general...so yeah.
Video Games
- A minor but highly-determined villain, the jailer Mohosa casts lecherous glances and none-too-vague innuendo at the boy-faced heroes of Vandal Hearts 2. This is only after he shows his true colors, some time after you find out he has the catatonic prince-apparent locked in his private quarters.
- Lieutenant Yaha, the guardian of the District of Precious Light in Drakengard 2. He made a pact with the gnomes, giving him the ability to beguile and charm anyone who looked him in the eyes, but the price he paid was that he lost the ability to feel pleasure. He makes very "interesting" comments during his boss battle, and it's heavily implied that he had a romantic relationship with one of your allies, Urick.
- Quite possibly Sander Cohen in Bioshock, if the sneering remarks in some of the audio diaries are to be believed.
- Done tragically with Abul Nuquod in Assassins Creed. His sexuality does drive him to mass-murder and joining conspiracy to take over the Holy Land, but specifically because the culture he lives in and Islam in general calls him an "abomination" and causes him to be the object of shame and scorn despite his generosity and lavish parties.
- What little we learn about Major Raikov in Metal Gear Solid 3 is that he's gay and beats up his men for fun. He gets a little more characterisation in Portable Ops, but not much. (Oddly, he's become a kind of Ensemble Darkhorse, and his relationship with Colonel Volgin is kind of sweet.)
Webcomics
Western Animation
- Mirage from Transformers Energon, who is madly in love with Big Bad Galvatron. As tfwiki.net so subtly puts it: "He transforms from a boat into a ferry.''
- This is possible a subversion, as while Mirage is technically on the bad guy side he's part of the Quirky Miniboss Squad and isn't all that depraved or intimidating.
Web Animation
- It is strongly implied that Benjamin Palmer of Broken Saints has a thing for little boys. Word Of God practically confirms it.
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