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alt title(s): The Determinator
"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
—Alfred, Lord Tennyson, Ulysses
Every character needs a certain amount of Heroic Willpower, but there are some who take it just too far. The personification of raw perseverance, this is the character - good guy or bad, and usually male (but not always) - who never gives up. Ever. No matter what. Whatever other attributes he may possess, his persistence stands out.
There is no stopping the Determinator. He does not understand tact. He does not Know When To Fold Em, and it's a waste of time to tell him the odds. No one can reason with him. He'll do whatever he has to without question. No price is too great to pay for success, up to and including his own life (and others'). Do not expect him to realize he might be better off letting it go, even if he can barely stand, for he is the one who will not give up until death. If you're ever kidnapped or lost with no hope of rescue, he'll be the one who will find you.
Whether his super willpower ultimately leads to his victory or destruction tends to depend on his place in the story. For heroes, "hit the villain until he drops" is a virtue that will be rewarded in a My Name Is Inigo Montoya moment, especially if he's the Badass Normal with a Screw Destiny attitude. The villain loses simply because the hero is too stubborn to stay down.
For anti heroes, it's a sign of why they're too insane to be heroes. Anti heroestend to lack genre blindness in this role, often looking down on their heroic counterparts for whom victory/success comes more easily. This makes the Determinator hard to fit on the Sliding Scale Of Idealism Versus Cynicism - at times he seems to stand off to one side of the Scale and reach for both ends at once.
As for villains, especially those heavily influenced by comic book/cartoon cliches, this tendency will often manifest via We Will Meet Again. They tend to be polarized as either an Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain who keeps trying despite having no chance of winning, or a terrifying Implacable Man / Super Persistent Predator who keeps coming after the hero despite things that by all rights they shouldn't have survived, and frequently elicit cries of "Why won't you die?!"
The nobility of his goal is not necessarily proportionate to his persistence. This is just as often an obsessive rival with a grudge as it is a hero on a chivalrous quest. In any case, you admire his dogged persistence even in the same breath that you might have to say, "What an idiot!". There is no line for him between "perseverance" and "insanity."
In shonen anime, it's comparatively rare to find a main character who isn't one of these. Likewise, practically every scrolling shooter boss ever won't give up, even when it's had huge holes blown in it, is trailing smoke and flames, or has mostly fallen apart. In fact, it may actually get more powerful as a result.
Compare Heroic Resolve, Heroic Spirit, Lawful Stupid Chaotic Stupid, The Unfettered, and The Fettered. Subtropes include the Implacable Man, Doomed Moral Victor, Well Intentioned Extremist, Inspector Javert, and Super Persistent Predator; Unstoppable Rage and Attack Attack Attack are fight-specific subtropes. The Plucky Girl is a slightly variant Distaff Counterpart of this trope in which the heroine might have a breakdown at some point, but will inevitably get back up and be even more unstoppable than before.
Examples
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- The Duracell/Energizer bunny. It keeps going and going and going...
- The Trix rabbit, and many other mascots for kids' cereal.
- In Brasil there was once a series of advertisements of people getting better in life that always ended with the sentence "...porque (ele/a) é brasileiro/a e não desiste nunca.", or, in English, "...because (he/she) is Brazilian and never gives up.". It became a Memetic Mutation. In other words, the Brazilian government made the citizenry consider themselves Memetic Determinators.
- In Naruto, the title character's "Way of the Ninja" basically consists of this trope; trying to list all of his examples could fill a separate page. Seriously, this page might as well be called "Pulling A Naruto."
- Examples of other characters pulling a Naruto:
- Hinata is one of the first people to adopt Naruto's ninja way. Knowing that he's watching, she refuses to give up against Neji despite severe injuries, even standing up one last time after the referee ends the match to keep her from getting killed.
- Rock Lee sometimes out-Narutos even Naruto, once assuming a fighting stance even though nearly all the major muscle groups in his body were torn and his left forearm and leg had been completely shattered. While unconscious, presumably from the pain. In his next battle, he breaks out of the hospital immediately after massive reconstructive surgery to get into a Hopeless Boss Fight.
- Taken to extremes in the Sasuke Retrieval Arc, where no less than five characters pull a Naruto. Even Brilliant But Lazy Shikamaru breaks his own finger to dispel an illusion.
- In the same arc, Kimimaro Just Won't Die. First, he somehow survives being crushed inside a ton-sized ball of sand (which splatters almost everyone it hits like a bug on a windshield) and keeps fighting. Then after being crushed a second time under a desert's worth of sand, he wills himself to life long enough to almost kill his opponents with one last attack. Oh, and he did all of this while suffering from a disease that was on the verge of killing him.
- Jiraiya. He brings himself back to life by willpower alone long enough to give Naruto one last clue to defeating Pain.
- Ironically, "GIVE UP TRYING TO MAKE ME GIVE UP!" was originally Nagato/Pain's line. And it probably inspired this line in the book Naruto got it from.
- The Raikage. When confronted by Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o ultimate defense, coated by Amaterasu's unquenchable flames, the Raikage punches through it anyway, sacrificing his dominant arm in order to hit Sasuke. A later move would have done the same thing to his leg, but Gaara stops him from turning himself into The Black Knight. And losing the arm doesn't seem to have slowed him down a bit since then.
- Dragonball also has quite a selection.
- Son Goku of DragonBall. Before the Cell Saga, he didn't know the meaning of the word surrender! And even when he did then, it was because he knew what he was doing. However, the greatest example was fighting Kid Buu at Super Saiyan 3, which consumes a hell of a lot of energy. As intense as the fight was, Goku was losing energy...and fast. He finally collapses from exhaustion, leaving Vegeta, to take his place in the fight instead. It was for five minutes, or less and Vegeta found himself nearly killed only for Goku to save him and transform into Super Saiyan 3 again, and battle him.
- Vegeta is a bit of Determinator himself. Perhaps even more than Goku, part of why he's such a badass is the insane amount of punishment it takes to bring him down. Seriously, he gets his ARM SNAPPED IN HALF, but when Trunks tries to jump in and help he's all like "NO STAY BACK I GOT THIS".
- His saga as a villain proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. No matter what any of the z-fighters throw at him, he simply refuses to stay down. He gets knocked around by Goku's Kaio-ken, knocked into the sky with the Kamehameha— overwhelming his own attack— and the most powerful move in the anime, the Spirit Bomb. He had his tail cut off, reverting himself from his Oozaru form after expending the energy needed to create the power ball letting him turn into it. And then he fought Gohan in HIS Oozaru form and beat it. No matter what happened, he just kept going. Even when he was finally defeated, he didn't stop moving. He crawled to his spaceship to flee so he could heal up and fight another day.
- Son Gohan inherited the Determinator trait from his father.
- Every last Z Senshi during the Kamehameha struggle between Gohan and Cell, in the anime.
- Tien deserves special mention for coming out of freaking nowhere with a long string of Kikohos - just to keep Cell on the ground temporarily. (The Kikoho saps huge amounts of energy, to the point that it's quite possible to die from exhaustion when using it - Tien keeps it up for several minutes before he passes out.)
- Krillin has shades of this, too - the little guy gets flattened on a regular basis, but is just as regularly seen dragging his bleeding self off the ground to keep fighting, even when he knows that the best he can do is buy time.
- Akagi pursues outrageous, life-threatening gambles with absolute determination. Part of it is due to completely trusting in his abilities (which would already qualify him for this trope), but his total disregard for the possible consequences of failures even when large amounts of luck are needed has forced every single character, including a batshit insane serial-killer, to call him "a devil" and "a lunatic with a deathwish".
- Battle Angel Alita: Last Order: Niz holds "persistence" as his core tenet, and manages to impress the local Badass, Sechs, enough to learn what she can from his philosophy. Considering that Sechs had much more combat experience, was more physically capable, was kicking his ass for most of the fight, and on top of that was notorious for ignoring anything apart from a straight-on berserker assault, the mere fact that Niz made such an impression on her was pretty amazing. Then again, remaining standing and not crying or grimacing in pain after your arm, artificial heart, and half of your chest is blown away would probably have an impact on whoever you were fighting.
- And let's not forget Gally/Alita herself. She's quite the dogged survivor and determined fighter -she has even survived war on Mars, being sentenced to dying in outer space two hundred years before the events of Gunnm, nearly getting mashed and thrown to the garbage on Chief Bigot's order, being blown apart by Desty Nova, and, depending on whether you're reading Last Order or the ending of the first Gunnm, fusing with the Ladder or being entirely destroyed at the nano-level while looking for the fata morgana. On top of all the more 'regular' fighting and danger, which include the destruction of several of her cyborg bodies. And let's not forget that *just* achieving the Panzer Kunst and the whole training around it is a feat in itself.
- Berserk: Guts is a pure example of this trope. No matter how hellish his life is, no matter how many soldiers he faces, no matter how large and invincible the demons he fights are, no matter how seemingly impossible his goals are, he will simply not give up! It probably helps that he knows what will happen to him if he dies, and that he needs to complete his revenge before he gets taken out.
- Black Lagoon: Roberta. Terminator jokes are made, but saying them will be regretted to a point where any Shounen protagonist you want elected for this trope should just step aside.
- Blame!: Killy. Broken arm? Use the other one. Three-fourths of your body incinerated? Grow a new one. Half of your skull blown off? Just shoot back. Seriously, there is nothing that can stop this killing machine. Now add in the fact that his quest takes 3,000 years to complete, during which he does not complain or quit once. Furthermore, he walks through the majority of The City. The City is roughly a light-year across.
- Bleach: Ichigo definitely qualifies for this. "Do you want to kill or die?" "I want to win!" He sometimes seems to need to get beaten to within an inch of his life before he can call on his true power. Later, he just got a hole blown in his chest, and it was stated to be unhealable. He. Got. Better.
- Though this is subverted somewhat earlier when a certain Big Bad nearly cuts him in two (his spine is the only thing holding his upper and lower body together).
- Let's not forget Byakuya. The man doesn't even flinch at cutting his own tendons when his limbs are controlled by one of the espada. And of course, the time he wanted to execute his own sister just because the head honchos said so. It took almost cutting him in half for him to remember that he missed some points.
- Also, Kenpachi. So extreme that he doesn't even think death is an excuse. He lives by the code that anyone who wants to give up with an "honorable death", instead of fighting on to MAKE what you want happen, is just a whiny little bitch.
- The Breaker *
technically a manhwa, not a manga has protagonist Shi Woon. He starts off as the weakest fighter in the series, but because of his Determinator nature he becomes one of the most powerful. It's what allowed him to succeed in his Training From Hell and hold his own against overpowered opponents.
- Busou Renkin not only justifies this behavior in its protagonist Kazuki, it uses it as a major plot point. The kakugane serving as Kazuki's heart is a highly dangerous, modified version, which has given Kazuki energy-draining abilities and is slowly turning him into a monster.
- Chrono Crusade: Rosette Christopher, in the manga. She'll do anything to get her brother back, going as far as making a Deal With The Devil that would ultimately cost her much of her life to do so. She even comes back from the dead, almost entirely by sheer force of will.
- Claymore: Clare is a positively epic Determinator. She can get filled with holes, lose her limbs, knocked down over and over again, and it just. Doesn't. Matter. While considered a Gecko Ending, her climactic battle with Priscilla in the anime is the best example of this.
- "Everything seems so far away" Clare has as a life a personal vendetta against [God Mode Sue the most powerful creature in Claymore canon]. Monser that seemed impossibly powerful to Clare die in seconds before her. But she doesn't stop either way.
- Code Geass: Kallen Kouzuki and Jeremiah Gottwald are competing fiercely for this title, with the former having succeeded in fighting Suzaku to a Combat Breakdown standstill in the Grand Finale, and the latter having survived everything from Kallen blowing his mech to hell to getting hit point blank with an EMP device specifically designed to work on the mineral his later cyborg parts were powered by, and continuing to keep moving by sheer force of will. And what's left of his human muscles, of course.
- Crest Of The Stars: Almost every Abh embodies this trope, but for Captain Lexshue it becomes a Crowning Moment Of Awesome. When her ship discovers a fleet of warships trying to launch a surprise attack, she orders Lafiel to escape with Jinto and warn their allies. Then to buy them time, she turns and fights despite being outnumbered ten to one, and keeps fighting even as the ship is being destroyed sector-by-sector and finally crippled. As she's ordering her beloved crew to ram the last ship, a beam pierces the hull in slow motion and the scene fades to white.
- D.Gray-Man: Allen and Lenalee in particular push their innocence past all reasonable limits, willing to sacrifice themselves in the process to save their friends. Allen also has his promise to Mana to never stop walking the path he's chosen until he dies.
- Digimon Adventure 02: Daisuke/Davis Motomiya - "No! I'll never retreat! Not as long as there's a fighting chance! I've never quit before, and I'm not going to start now!"
- Ditto Masaru from Digimon Savers in fact he broke through a shield made by the god of the digital world (even if it had been weakened) with a punch using his determination
- Eyeshield 21: Subverted. In one early match against the Oujou White Knights, Hiruma stops playing because he realizes Deimon's chances for victory have reached 0%, although he is willing to keep playing in any other match as long as his team's chances for winning are even marginally greater than nil. In recent chapters, he's gone from being a subversion to almost an embodiment of sheer determinatorism: He plays half a game with a broken arm and apparently heals it in less than a month by willpower alone. Well, willpower and his oxygen tank/segway. Hahahaha.
- Then there's Yukimitsu Manabu, who has more determination than any of the other Devil Bats, and managed to overcome Agon in the game with the Shinryuuji Nagas. Ojou's Sakuraba and Takami both elevated themselves into great players by never giving up; Takami, particularly, had to overcome a lack of speed that many said killed his chances of being a quarterback. He compensated by practicing the living Hell out of throwing until there wasn't a more precise QB in the country. Monta managed to overcome the Nagas' catching ace, as well. Because catching is all he's good at, he's vowed to become the number one catcher in the world if it kills him. Interestingly, characters who started out hearing threats of "do it, or I'll kill you!" (Sena, Monta, the Ha Ha brothers, etc.), end up deciding for themselves "I'll do it even if it kills me!"
- Fist Of The North Star: Juuza and Fudo definitely exhibit this in their respective fights against Raoh. Despite all the punishment they're put through, they absolutely refuse to surrender. At points in both fights, Raoh specifically states they should have already died from their injuries, yet they continue to fight on, even in death.
- Freezing: Bridget L. Satellizer is a true female pinnacle of this trope. Because of her late mother's wish, she refuses to give up in any situation and refuses to be bossed around by anyone. Even with her body paralyzed, brutally maimed, or even after having her throat slit she will not give up in fight. She has pushed her will so high that she completely defeated a superior opponent while entirely unconscious, having the 'dead eyes' trait while fighting.
- Fullmetal Alchemist: Edward Elric and Roy Mustang.
- Ran Fan also deserves special mention. She is one of those people willing to cut her own arm off for the cause, and does not give up on the Young Master even after he is turned into a homunculus.
- Not to mention Sloth. "Dying is too... much... work..."
- Full Metal Panic: Sousuke Sagara, but particularly after the kidnapping of Kaname Chidori. Since Continuing on My Own, he has survived the destruction of the ARX-7 Arbalest, battling various other Arm Slaves (often at the same time, including an M9) in a single Rk-91 Savage, a rifle round to the stomach (necessitating the removal of a kidney, part of his liver, and a portion of his digestive tract and causing him to spend 56 days in a coma), escaping an island under siege less than a day after waking from a coma, rigorous (read: abusive) "rehabilitation" training from one of his former superiors, and his rescuee (under mind control) attempting to shoot him (although his death was only an illusion that he woke up from). He shows no signs of slowing down or giving up and will do anything to get her back.
- Gantz: Katou Masaru is a determinator messiah, of the "Leave no man behind!" and "There is no 'Combat Ineffective' in 'Sudden Battlefield Limb Amputation'!" variety. In one case he beats an unstoppable alien demigod equipping his own severed arm, and in another he crawls over to a BFG, props himself up on his bleeding leg-stumps, and cuts loose on yet another unstoppable alien demigod. His favored tactic? Talking people down. And he's not even the main character. Main character Kei Kuruno isn't far behind, except for the messiah thing at the beginning.
- Gao Gai Gar: The Gutsy Geoid Guard actually had written into their bylaws (Called the "Oath Sworn through Courage") : "Article 5, Section 120: ... Under no circumstances must a GGG member ever give up."
- ChoRyuJin = Determinator Incarnate, even out-"never give up"-ing Guy. Even THE END OF THE (prehistoric) WORLD cannot and will not stop him.
- But even ChoRyuJin faltered before the might of the Sol Masters in FINAL. In the darkest hour of the final battle, with the Brave Robot Corps in pieces and Guy seemingly defeated by Palparepa, it was Mamoru, alone and armed only with his purification abilities, who refused to surrender in the face of Pei La Cain's superior firepower. It was Mamoru's unflagging courage that empowered the G-Stones of the Brave Robot Corps via the "all G-Stones are connected" reveal moments later, giving 3G's warriors the strength to come back from defeat one last time and blast the Sol Masters to kingdom come.
- Great Teacher Onizuka embodies this trope. Let no examples be made because we'll be stuck all night and end up with a fifty foot long page.
- Gundam has a bunch of 'em.
- Domon Kasshu of the G Gundam is probably the best example, but in G your fighting spirit is your most powerful weapon anyway.
- Gundam00's Determinator surely is... Patrick 'the Immortal' Colasaur unwilling to stop fighting Gundams (and for his love interest) no matter how often he gets shot down. Though, there is Graham Acre (aka Mr Bushido) who keeps fighting up to the point where he 'overcomes reasoning with his recklessness' - and it works.
- Garrod Ran from Gundam X is another example. This trope is the entire reason why Garrod is able to debunk Newtype prophecies again and again. D.O.M.E. even says this outright in the final episode.
- Heero Yuy of Gundam Wing. Shoot him, blow him up, he's gonna complete his mission even if it kills him. Though that's pretty unlikely, even he can't manage to kill himself.
- He screams "I WILL SURVIVE" as Wing Gundam Zero literally dissolves around him, re-entering the Earth's atmosphere unshielded and backwards, in the series finale.
- Gyakkyou Nine: Fukutsu Toshi's name literally translates to "Indomitable Determination." Being a Kazuhiko Shimamoto character, he is a walking inferno of hot blood and believes that with determination, his baseball team can achieve anything.
- Hajime No Ippo: Almost every boxer Ippo faces shows Heroic Resolve, but the title of Determinator must go to Takeshi Sendo who, in one fight, after fracturing several ribs, not only fights savagely for a whole 'nother round, but after being brutally KO'd (and shattering two ribs in the process) he stands up and walks out unassisted.
- And Date Eiji, who kept fighting with a broken rib, fist and jaw against the world champion.
- Hellsing: Alucard suggests that this is part of the reason why Humanity fascinates him, after Father Alexander Anderson refuses to roll over and give in despite having a partly blown off left arm and being severely outnumbered.
- Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni and Umineko No Naku Koro Ni have a bunch:
- Rika and Battler Ushiromiya are both fighting to save themselves from horrible fates; Battler in particular has stopped the ceremony to empower an evil witch three times (so far) by the virtue of his sheer refusal to believe in Witches, and it's implied that Rika has been denying fate for hundreds and hundreds of years. God DAMN.
- Oddly enough, the trope is played with to a certain extent with both characters. By the time we meet Rika as the main character, she actually has just about given up. As for Battler, both the second and third arcs' endings provide examples (Especially the second) in which he does essentially try to run away from his goal and is pulled back largely by events outside his control.
- Keiichi is the one who in the end inspires Rika to keep going. If you want to see a good example of this, see the Miotsukushi-hen ending, where he's cornered by Takano, who's pointing a gun at him, when he gets a pep talk by Hanyuu, and then manages to dodge every bullet, knock pepper spray into Takano's eyes, and escape with Rika and Satoko. GAR to the Nth power.
- Not to mention Takano herself, whose status as Determinator created the fate that Rika spent hundreds of years trying to escape from.
- Honey Crush: Mitsu doesn't even let a pesky thing like death stop her from pursuing her love interest. Her unwillingness to ever give up is lampshaded by her rival, Kyouko.
- Hunter X Hunter: Gon makes everyone else look like pansies, mostly because unlike the rest of 'em, he's far from the strongest fish in the pond. This is a trait all Hunters share, since the final exam is to eliminate the least Determinator among them (it's an inverse fighting tournament where the loser moves forward, and the only way you can lose is by admitting defeat - killing an opponent will disqualify you). During this exam, Gon's opponent Hanzo clearly outmatches him, beating him unconscious several times, and breaking his arm. Even after hours of this, he still refuses to surrender. He finally wins as Hanzo realizes that Gon has won him over and that he's not willing to do what it would take to win (actual torture and permanent damage). As soon as he recovers, Gon pulls the same trick again when he's trying to find Killua - each time he crosses the boundary, he's smacked several yards back, but he keeps it going all day long until the person who's smacking him cries out in desperation, eventually persuaded to let him pass. A later arc has him getting his arm blown off - and counting that as a victory because he made his opponent use his special ability. Frankly, Gon's determination (or stubbornness) would probably get any non-protagonist killed within minutes. In the manga, he has gotten even worse since the death of Kaito
- InuYasha: The entire InuYasha-tachi team. InuYasha himself, Sango, Miroku, Kirara/Kilala, even gentle Kagome and Shippo, who usually plays comic relief. The only time any of them could be said to give up is when Sango thinks Miroku is about to die from his curse. "Take me with you."
- Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure: This is half the point, for both flavors of 'tagonist. (The other half is being wicked clever bastards.) JJBA fights are traditionally won by the protagonist being put under an ungodly amount of pressure causing him to figure out something completely, well, bizarre and thus turn the tables on the unfortunate villain involved. Or sometimes to just stop time.
- Jubei-chan: Koinosuke survives 300 years by force of will alone to keep searching until he finds the true successor for the Lovely Eyepatch. (He also abandons his wife and daughter to do so, but you don't find that out until later.) It's nearly the last Despair Event Horizon for Jubei when she realizes what he went through to get her something she's done nothing but reject.
- Karas: Otoha definitely falls into this category. He was "killed" twice in the series that we saw—and both times just pissed him off. And yes, he was in human form both of those times.
- Katekyo Hitman Reborn!: Hibari Kyouya. Even when half of the bones on the his body are broken by Mukuro, he continues fighting so hard he was said to be moving too fast to be seen.
- Kenichi: his masters are firmly of the opinion that sheer stubbornness is the only reason he survives at all.
- The Law Of Ueki: Ueki just will not go down until he succeeds, no manner how much damage he takes. His absolute determination is so great that many characters have incredulously asked: "Is this guy immortal?" It helps that he is a cosmic being, albeit still killable, who was raised as a human, but even other cosmic beings are awed at his refusal to go down.
- Lone Wolf And Cub: Ogami Itto. Enough said. Well no, not really. Er... go read the page!
- Magic Knight Rayearth: "Cephiro, the world that is shaped by the strength of the believing heart." And no one, absolutely no one, has a stronger heart than little pint-sized Hikaru Shidou, even when she's torn apart with injuries that would have killed a grown man. It's actually a plot point in the anime's second season, when her loss of will is downright catastrophic for the entire world, and her subsequent recovery makes her virtually omnipotent.
- Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha: Vita would never fail Hayate (and later, Nanoha) if she could help it. For the people she loves, she will never allow herself to lose, no matter how injured she is. This is especially shown in the final battle of the third season. With her weapon damaged, her cartridge supply almost spent, and her chest sporting a large, gaping wound, she finally reaches the Engine Room after fighting through a swarm of elite Mecha Mooks, only for the security system to kick in and direct a large amount of lasers at her. Her response?
Vita:...Bring it on.
- Mahou Sensei Negima: Parodied when Negi is accidentally turned into one of these after Nodoka asks him for a kiss, unaware that the nearby The World Tree forces him to accept. He's going to kiss somebody, dang it, or die trying. He eventually kisses Asuna so intensely that she does an incredibly suggestive Eye Take just before the scene is jokingly censored. Something of a Funny Aneurysm, since it's later revealed that she's his aunt. More traditional Determinator moments:
- Asuna, when Evangeline is training her in the arctic subrealm of her pocket dimension.
- Right after Negi and crew arrive in the magic world, Fate attacks Negi, putting a stone spear through his chest. When he moves to attack the students, Negi pulls the spear out and beats Fate in the head with it.
- Negi gets attacked by a shadow mage. During the course of the fight his right arm gets cut off. His response? "I still have my left!", before attempting a finishing blow. Unfortunately, Jack Rakan stops the fight before we find out if it would have worked or not. And don't worry, he gets the arm back.
- The finals between Negi and Rakan. Good Lord. Negi's got Tears Of Blood, a gaping chest wound and is puking up blood... and he still gets up to fight on. Even Rakan is surprised by his tenacity.
- Negi's tendencies along this line showed as early as vol. 7. When he first asked Evangeline to train him she refused unless he could use the kung fu he started learning from Ku Fei a couple of days earlier to land a hit on expert fighter Chachamaru. At the appointed hour he came, got sent sprawling halfway across the courtyard, and was told to go away. He simply picked himself up and pointed out to Eva that no time limit was set. The resulting beating lasted for over an hour before Chachamaru got distracted and Negi landed a feeble blow before collapsing.
- Then there's Rakan, who takes this to absurd levels. Nothing short of erasing him from existance will stop him, and even then, he puts up one hell of a fight.
- Mai-HiME: Haruka is "Never Say Die" personified (even more so in Mai-Otome, where she's a freakin' general of an army).
- Monster: Inspector Lunge obsessively chases Tenma all over Germany trying to get him to confess to the murders that were actually committed by Johan. Nothing - not even his wife and kids leaving him, or losing his job - matters as much as catching Tenma. In a more traditional example, not even being stabbed so badly that he quickly falls unconscious from the blood loss stopped Lunge from trying to smash the windows of Tenma's car in order to catch him.
- Neon Genesis Evangelion: Rei has her determinator moments, most notably in the climactic fight of Rebuild 01 where she blocks a particle accelerator beam that melts half a mountain behind her.
- Noein: Karasu is the series' Determinator. If you threaten Haruka, he will smack you down. It is that simple. In the last episodes he took this to the extreme, by taking on an entire universe just to get to her.
- Now And Then Here And There: Shu keeps repeating "Everything's OK!" in the most extreme circumstances, to the point that he might seem completely unconscious or heartless - as when he tells Sara that "everything's okay" because she's alive, even though she was spirited away from her world, unfairly imprisoned, raped by a soldier whom she had to kill, and ran away from a military fortress to avoid getting executed. Oh, and the rape resulted in a pregnancy that she tried to terminate by bashing herself in the stomach with a rock, until the ever-determined and optimistic Shu talked her into carrying it to term..
- One Piece: When Hannyabal is faced with Luffy and his group of extremely powerful prison escapees, he takes several attacks from Luffy's Gear 2 form (including Gomu Gomu no Jet Gatling, the attack that beat Rob Lucci) and keeps going, refusing to let Luffy leave despite having no Devil Fruit abilities.
- Uh, hello? Usopp much? Not only is he the weakest member of the Strawhats (According to Word Of God, he will ALWAYS be the weakest, no matter WHAT), he is completely NORMAL. No Devil Fruit. No Haki. No Charles Atlas Super Power. Completely. Effing. Normal. He survived a 4-TON BAT TO THE FACE, multiple explosions, having almost every bone in his body shattered, and got up to continue the fight, winning through cleverness and sheer determination. This after traveling through the desert for several days (admittedly, so had the others).
- No one who's travelled the Grand Line for this long can be considered normal, though. Usopp and Nami are at least Badass Normal from sheer experience alone.
- Orguss02: Verifer Decimator shrugs off absolutely everything the Rivellian army throws at it, from artillery to bombs aimed directly at its head. Even when it's finally damaged (by having nuclear weapons detonated right against its body) it only loses both legs, continuing to drag itself forward with its hands until it's destroyed by an even bigger Decimator.
- Pumpkin Scissors: Alice L. Malvin can't stand injustice or inequality - so much so that she will literally jump into any fight and won't back down, no matter what the odds are. This usually means her troops have to end up dragging her out of situations. There is an upside to this though - she's definitely not just the Idiot Hero when she gets serious.
- Gold. Kick his ass multiple times? Doesn't matter. He'll still try to fight you.
- Ranma 1/2: Pretty much every character. Hell, Rumiko Takahashi is FAMOUS for making characters like this. It'd be quicker to list the ones that AREN'T determinators.
- Rurouni Kenshin: More in the manga than in the anime, Kenshin Himura defeats enemies seemingly by pure willpower alone, such as his determination not to kill. He survives several seemingly insurmountable fights in quick series, sustaining massive injuries each time and still managing to win every single time.
- The young man who gave Kenshin the first slash of his X-shaped scar did so despite being nowhere near Kenshin's level as a swordsman. Kenshin told witnesses, "His skill was nothing. But his desperation to live ... was terrible." It didn't save him.
- Saint Seiya: Pegasus Seiya is one of the finest examples of this trope, if not the epitome of it. He gets dunked on his head in nearly every fight he puts himself into; he's taken punches thrown at light-speed with his face; he was once stomped so far into the Earth that it might as well have been a burial; and oh, he gets knocked off a cliff once every arc/movie. And he still manages to stand up tall at the end of each and every encounter. Somewhat subverted in the conclusion of the Hades arc, where he gets stabbed in the heart with a sword by the hands of Hades himself, and the blow was laced with a curse that's currently keeping him comatose. But chances are good that he'll be back.
- Samurai Seven: Kyuzo is willing to destroy as many enemies as necessary just so he'll be around for the one duel he actually wants to fight. After destroying countless mecha and getting his arm severely damaged, he responds that he can still fight with the other one.
- Scryed: Kazuma, and possibly Ryuhou as well.
- Shaman King: Subverted. Yoh Asakura, after ten or so volumes of trying to become the Shaman King, gives up without a fight. Granted, it was to bring Ren back to life, but he didn't even think twice about it.
- Skip Beat: Kyoko Mogami has this as one of her defining characteristics, (the other being holding intense grudges against anyone who mistreats her). In a flashback in Act 7 of the manga, she is given a daruma doll as a gift from her old boss, which is a symbol for unwavering persistence.
- Slam Dunk: Most (if not all) of the teams, but in particular the main protagonist Sakuragi Hanamichi, who helps will his team to victory against all odds and a nigh-invincible opponent, despite crippling pain from a potentially career-ending back injury.
- Special A: Because Hikari lost a wrestling match against Kei as a kid, she's attempting to beat Kei at anything, and will stop at nothing to achieve that.
- Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann: Kamina inspires the Badass Crew to fight even when they have no chance of winning. Being blasted apart by the pure awesome he radiates isn't worth missing the show for when he starts to fight. His line early in the series, "A real man never dies even if he's killed!", sums up this trope as perfectly as a single sentence can. Considering the posthumous influence his attitude and ideals enjoyed, both in the series and in real life, it seems he was right. Simon also becomes just as much a Determinator as time goes on.
- Of course, due to the way Spiral Energy works, sheer willpower and fighting spirit can make the impossible happen. Hell, Lagann uses it as fuel.
- Trigun: Vash the Stampede. There's even a section where he explains he chose his red coat because Rem told him that in the language of flowers a red geranium meant 'determination.'
- Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle: Syaoran will get Sakura's feathers back without fail. No matter what. This becomes quite creepy in the Acid Tokyo Arc.
- Urusei Yatsura: Ataru Moroboshi is a rather luckless, perverted version of this trope. Heaven help anyone between him and a beautiful girl, or the girl herself if she tries to use him to get at Lum and then underestimate how far he'll go for a kiss or grope. Nothing will stop him - common sense, decency, the law, fate, the gods, beatings, near-electrocutions, explosions, military-grade weaponry, armies, you name it. Even evil spirits are scared of him. He demonstrates a tenacity that makes his "friends" wonder if he's even human.
- Vandread: Hibiki pulls through by sheer stubbornness, Meia is The Stoic, Jura pulled a Big Damn Heroes moment after being wounded in battle and on painkillers and Dita... Well, you'll know it when you see it. Considering her usual behavior, she is also a good example of a Crouching Moron Hidden Badass.
- Vinland Saga: Thorfinn will do whatever is required to earn a duel with Askeladd, even if it's down right suicidal.
- Witch Blade: Masane Amaha was mostly a Punch Clock Hero, at first. However, since circumstance (being a single mother) forced her to do something to provide for her daughter Rihoko, she willingly put herself in harm's way for said daughter. In fact, she refused to DIE one episode because no one would be around to effectively parent her child. Once that wasn't a problem anymore, then she WAS willingly to die. Like a total Badass with a smile on her face. Basically, Rihoko was the one motivation that kept Masane from refusing to give up. Period.
- Xabungle: Jiron Amos is possibly the most hot-blooded Real Robot pilot ever. The guy has the guts to take on, catch, and throw back an ICBM, isn't scared to take on the entire military force of the Innocent, and ignores the statute of limitations on his parents' murder so that their murderer is killed.
- Yu Yu Hakusho: Kuwabara tends to win all of his major battles by refusing to stay down. One example is his battle against Rishou in the Dark Tournament. Kuwabara starts the fight severely weakened from a previous fight and proceeds to get the stuffing beaten out of him for an entire episode. In the end, he manages to pull off a win with some help from The Power of Love. Yusuke and Kurama have had their Determinator moments as well.
- Yu-Gi-Oh has some, despite being about card games
- The hero, of course. Or at least his Superpowered Evil Side.
- And his rival, Seto Kaiba
- Katsuya Jounouchi, proven when he got all the way to the semi-final of Battle City without holding an Egyptian God card.
Comic Books
- The Thing of Fantastic Four never gives up, no matter how often his opponents may have beaten him before.
- There are many examples that make him the very personification of this trope. A similar situation and dialogue occurs in The Thing: Last Line Of Defense, which takes place when Sue Richards is pregnant with her and Reed's first kid, Franklin. Bad guy Blastaar beats Ben Grimm to a pulp, and proceeds to attack Sue. She's unconscious and is about to be killed when the half-dead Grimm gets back in the fight with:
The Thing: If that girl or her baby is hurt, you won't be leavin' this room alive. Blastaar: Bold talk from a man who can barely stand. And you still make threats. The Thing: Not a threat. A promise.
- Batman in most incarnations. Lampshaded in an issue of Superman/Batman where the two heroes are standing in the Mall in Washington D.C., surrounded by an obscene number of supervillains.
Superman: They're all around us, you know. Batman: Do you think we can take them? I think we can take them. Superman: You always think we can take them. (Spoiler alert: turns out they can take them.)
- All of the Batfamily probably counts, but Jason Todd gets a special mention. In one issue, he's hanging far above the ground, hunted by a tentacled monster as Gotham burns around them.
Tentacle Monster: Is that your super-power, boy? Too stupid to ever give up?
Jason: *heh*... Maybe it is.
- In The Cult, he also argues with Batman when Batman, having been tortured and had his will broken by the leader of a cult, wants to give up on Gotham, and he's the one who finally persuades him to go back on his decision. At the end of the series, he also saves Batman's life after dragging himself through the sewers with a bullet in his leg.
- Steph. Her dad was the third-rate villain the Cluemaster, her mother was an addict, she took up crime-fighting to get back at her father, and she basically spent the next several years being strongly discouraged and occasionally tolerated by Batman. Then he made her Robin, then he fired her, then she was tortured half to death, then she came back to Gotham anyway to keep on fighting crime.
- Superman In Emperor Joker, Batman is broken by having himself killed, night after night after night. Only Superman's selfless offer to take those memories (thanks to Mxyzptlk and Spectre) enables him to go on. Superman is also seen in an earlier John Byrne reboot boosting a group of Green Lanterns rings. He also beat Doomsday. The JLA had been crushed and Superman was frequently described in the story as never giving up.
- The Tick.
- Basically every main character in Sin City: Hartigan, Marv, Dwight, Wallace...Some of the predicaments that these characters find themselves in are flabbergasting, yet they never show more than the slightest notion of fear in their endeavors.
- The very first Sin City yarn is a prime example of this trope. A hooker named Goldie was killed, and Marv survived multiple injuries (he had to get himself bandaged up at least twice), including gunshots, being hit by a car and being hit in the head with a sledgehammer, to avenge her death because she slept with him (and took his virginity ), even though in all likelihood she was just using him for protection and felt nothing for him. Even when he's on Death Row and they execute him at the electric chair, it takes two tries to finish him.
- The graphic novel 300 (and really, the real life battle that it it based on) makes a note of showing that all of the 300 Spartans (particularly King Leonidas) are some of the most badass determinators imaginable.
- It's also important to note, in final day of the real life battle, the Thespians (from Thermopylae not the other kind) who also stayed with the Spartans to the end to protect the allied retreat. The Thebians, on the other hand... not so much (they eventually surrendered).
- The to be-Saint of Killers from Preacher managed to retain his mind even in death by pure hatred of the two men who he had swore vengeance on.
- In the Marvel GI Joe continuity, Snake-Eyes has just been in a helicopter crash, his crush is badly injured, and his head and throat have been burned and implanted with shrapnel-like shards of glass. Ordered to stand down, he writers two letters in the sand: C M. Continue Mission. Then, he all but single-handedly pulls the mission off.
- Rorschach from Watchmen:
"No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise."
- Wolverine of x-Men: Healing factor + Power Creep Power Seep + REALLY BAD TEMPER = Pants-wettingly tenacious.
- Captain America defeats superpowered opponents with both his incredible fighting skills...and that he just won't quit!
Cap: This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move."
- And Spider-Man could be his protege. That's almost as much a part of the character as Spider-Sense and webslinging.
- For one of the best examples, check out Amazing Spider-Man 229-230, where Spidey tries to stop the Juggernaut.
- Or for that matter Amazing Spider-man 270, where Spider-Man actually *stops* Firelord, leaving the full roster of active Avengers that were riding in as the cavalry to stand around with their mouths agape. When Captain America is impressed, you are officially impressive.
- Spidey fits this trope to a 'T'. The classic two-issue "Nothing Can Stop the Juggernaut!" leaves one wondering who it was that really couldn't be stopped. After an exhausting several-hour fight with a fellow Determinator, Morlun, Spidey eventually stops him by injecting himself with a near lethal amount of radiation, a deadly energy for the life-draining villain. In the story arc "Revelations", which features the end of the infamous Clone Saga and the return of Norman Osborn, the following exchange takes place between Osborn and Spidey:
Green Goblin: No. No! I kill your true love, you fall in love with someone else. I destroy your life and you build another! Why won't you fall down and die?!
Spider-Man: Because then, Norman, you would win. And I will never give you the satisfaction.
- In Spider-man: The Other, thanks to some mystical Spider-virus, Spider-man is at his deathbed. Weakened, he still does his best to take on Morlun, who promptly proceeds to beat the ever-living daylight out of the guy. He leaves, and Spider-man is rushed to the hospital, with his face so bad that his own wife couldn't recognize him. Morlun shows up, and when his wife defends him he promptly breaks her arm and comments on how he might eat her as a snack before he moves onto the main course: Spider-man. Spider-man, bruised beaten and barely conscious, overhears this, and promptly gets out of his deathbed, beats Morlun into the ground, and stabs him through the heart. You do not mess with Spider-man's family. Another time in Ultimate Spider-man, the Clone Saga. He convinces Nick Fury, the guy whose job it is to prepare for the least likely scenarios imaginable, that he will not go insane, and that he will in fact grow up to be the greatest hero of all time.
- The Green Lantern Corps is full of Determinators, with Hal Jordan being the biggest of them all. Seeing as their rings are fueled by will power, this is probably a given.
- Surprisingly enough, Empowered is one if you think about it. Setting aside the fact that a sane person would have hung up the hypermembrane a long time ago rather than put up with the constant humiliation at the hands of almost everybody, her boyfriend once had to shred said suit in order to keep her from responding to an alert concerning a local "Heavy Hitter" on the move when so sick she could barely stand (then he answered said summons with nothing more than a sniper rifle).
- In the Marvel G1 Transformers comics, Grimlock's early hot-headed temper and stoneheaded stubbornness were revealed to be evidence of a greater quality: that of being unwilling or unable to consider giving up. He engaged in forbidden science to bring back his troops, attacked Unicron willingly, and even after the Decepticons had cut them down to five, as he explained to Prowl, post-eviscerating a Decepticon ambush: "That what we do, Prowl. We fight."
- Zone from Special Forces, a severe autistic cajoled into the military by a desperate recruiting officer. He follows a list for his daily activities, and if it's on the list it gets done. When his squad's first mission goes sour and only he and Felony are alive, he adamantly refuses to stay down; the mission was on the list, and he's not going to stop until it's completed or he's dead. Later, when he's captured, the enemy leader remarks that "Long have I heard tales of the indomitable will of the American fighting man... this one is something else. Superhuman! It's as if he could not feel pain!" Zone would eventually ride a motorcycle up a giant sword to jump into a helicopter carrying his quarry, and sacrifice himself at Felony's behest for the sake of the mission.
- In the seventh issue of the original Daredevil series (wherein he changes from the yellow costume to his more familiar all-red ensemble), Daredevil alone faces off against the Sub-Mariner in a desperate bid to keep him from demolishing Manhattan in a fit of rage. Broken and beaten to a pulp, he still tries to stand and challenge Namor; this feat of courage and determination is so moving to him that he immediately leaves for Atlantis out of respect. Hard. Core. Namor even remarks that he has faced off against many very powerful enemies, from the Fantastic Four to the Avengers, but never had he seen such bravery, and from the most vulnerable challenger of all.
- Friday in Rogue Trooper, when he crosses two hundred miles in a few days to take down Highsight while being occasionally attacked by rogue grunts.
- Red has Paul Moses, although this is more because despite the fact that he's an old man and retired, several teams of professional killers sent after him and an entire building full of soldiers he has to fight through do not deter him in the slightest. They send wave after wave of men at him and he slaughters all of them without so much as a scratch.
Film
- Obviously, De Terminator. As well as the quote formerly at the top of this very page:
Kyle Reese: "You still don't get it, do you? He'll find her! That's what he does! It's all he does! You can't stop him! He'll wade through you! He'll reach down her throat and tear her fuckin' heart out!"
- Given the hellhole of a future he lived in, Reese himself must have been one to survive. Also, Sarah embraces her inner Determinator in the climax of the first movie, and practically becomes a Terminator in the second, to the point she's halfway to shooting a defenceless, wounded man in front of his wife and children for something he hasn't actually done yet. Even after that, she's still perfectly capable of firing a 12-gauge shotgun repeatedly after minutes earlier having an inch-thick metal spike rammed straight through her shoulder. Fuck the third film, there are only two Terminator movies.
- In the newest Terminator film, the last lines spoken are this trope to a T.
John Connor: This battle has been won, but the war against the machines races on. Skynet's global network remains strong, but we will not quit, until all of it is destroyed.
- Oh-Desui of Oldboy is an especially violent example of this trope.
- Carl Brashear in Men Of Honor put up with bigotry, an insane instructor, and losing his leg and was still unbowed.
- Captain Vidal in Pans Labyrinth. This makes him an utterly terrifying villain, while at the same time almost pitiable. (In fact, when he got shot in the head, he actually had the time to feel it!)
- The Black Knight from Monty Python And The Holy Grail - is actually a Deconstructive Parody of this, based on the old British idea of never surrendering, no matter what.
- Paul Newman's character Luke in the movie Cool Hand Luke is a perfect example of a Determinator. Acts of sheer determination include eating fifty eggs in under an hour to win a bet, multiple attempts to escape from jail, resisting the worst the warden could give him, and "winning" a boxing match by repeatedly getting up, no matter how many times he was knocked down, until his opponent, who was so far unharmed, refused to hit him any more. His nickname came from his habit of keeping going and refusing to quit when he has absolutely nothing - specifically, the time he won a poker game by bluffing.
Dragline: Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me — with nothin'. Luke: Yeah well, sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand.
- Both Neo and Agent Smith of The Matrix are up there - Smith possibly even more so.
- Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men has a belief system that revolves around this trope.
- Rocky Balboa of the Rocky films, as summed up in this speech to his son
.
- Alex Forrest, the character played by Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.
- Nana from Madagascar and Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa is a parody of the trope.
- John Creasy from Man on Fire. Being severely wounded with a partially collapsed lung does not deter him from hunting down, torturing and killing the kidnappers of his charge or anyone else involved.
- Ethan Edwards, the Confederate soldier-turned-Indian hunter in TheSearchers.
Ethan:Injun will chase a thing till he thinks he's chased it enough. Then he quits. Same way when he runs. Seems like he never learns there's such a thing as a critter who'll just keep comin' on. So we'll find 'em in the end, I promise you. We'll find 'em, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth.
- Momma from Throw Momma From The Train.
Larry: She's not a woman. She's the Terminator!
- The paperboy in Better Off Dead. "I want my two dollars!"
- Jason Bourne. At various times, he's shot, thrown off buildings, beat to a bloody pulp, put through horrendous car crashes, been right next to an exploding bomb. And he just gets up, hunts down who did that to him, and keeps on trucking.
- The crew of the Leper Colony in Dr Strangelove will complete its mission, no matter what.
- Porter from Payback wants the money he is owed, will not be stopped by anyone.
- Two Words: Tony Jaa
- The Yul Brynner robot.'' in the film Westworld.
- Harold Abrahams in Chariots of Fire: "I'll take them all on, one by one, and run them off their feet."
- Will 'Elizabeth goes free!' Turner in the first Pirates Of The Caribbean movie. He has a one track mind about saving her, and he's certainly not too worried about getting himself killed in the process.
- The protagonist of the 2007 remake of 3:10 to Yuma certainly doesn't Know When To Fold Em, and it's not even about the money. No one (maybe even not he himself) knows why he's so determined to keep going until the end, though one reason is to make his son proud of him. He wins everyone over by sheer amazement about his stubborn determination. Not that that's enough to save the day, but pretty close.
- "Never give up, never surrender!"
- Avatar. Quaritch. Good God, Quaritch.
- Giselle from Enchanted. What is her determination? To be as friendly and happy and hopeful as humanly possible. Why else would she say, when realizing her little musical call has summoned pigeons, gnats, and cockroaches, say, "Well... it's always nice to make new friends!" ? And mean it?
- The protagonist from Taken:
Bryan: I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
Literature
- Paul in the New Testament practically exhorts all Christians to be determinators, especially in the face of persecution and/or death.
- Paul was quite the Determinator himself: in response to critics claiming he wasn't a "good enough servant of Christ," he once listed off his own sufferings: "far more imprisonments, with countless beatings, and often near death. Five times I received at the hands of the Jews the forty lashes less one [the maximum punishment the Jews were allowed to hand out under Roman law]. Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I was adrift at sea; on frequent journeys, in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, danger from my own people, danger from Gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brothers; in toil and hardship, through many a sleepless night, in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure." Yet he kept on going. The man just could not be stopped.
- Edmond Dantès, aka The Count Of Monte Cristo, is certainly worth a mention. After his betrayal he devotes his entire life to the pursuit of vengeance. Absolutely everything he does is somehow a step in his giant Xanatos Roulette designed to get his just revenge. He does settle down in the end, but by then he's pretty much accomplished everything he intended.
- As far as I know... every single Dick Francis hero/narrator character. I'll just mention one: Sid Halley, who is tortured by a villain who destroys his crippled left hand, then threatens to destroy the right hand as well, the thing he most fears. Needless to say, he doesn't give up. And that's topped in a later book.
- It should be mentioned, that Dick Francis wrote the Terminator novelisation.
- The main character of the Sword Of Truth series is described at least once as "the kind of man who would jump over a cliff to come after you". Which is either Too Dumb To Live or Determinator. Or possibly both.
- Hawk and Fisher, the titular characters from Simon R. Green's books, are definitely up there as determinators. Despite being completely human, they're willing to go up against anything Haven can throw at them and stick to their principles. Usually while insisting they've seen worse.
- Most characters in Les Miserables:
- Jean Valjean's prison sentence was originally three years. It slowly gets extended to nineteen because they keep adding on time every time he tries to escape... but he won't stop trying. After he gets out (and has a nice run in with The Messiah), he's such an insatiable do-gooder that he uses disguises to keep helping the poor even when half the police in Paris are breathing down his neck.
- In an inversion of the stereotypical Determinator traits, he's so relentlessly pacifist (in the book) that when the Thenardiers' gang capture him, after breaking free and securing a red-hot iron as a weapon, he brands himself with it to show them that torturing him for information that might imperil Cosette would be useless. He then discards it, even though 1) his legendary strength would have almost certainly been enough to take down the lot of them, and 2) it's virtually suicide to stay there. (In the book, they were amoral cutthroats that bear no resemblance to The Keystone Kops-esque bumblers in the musical.)
- Inspector Javert: Despite the fact that they live in a time where recordkeeping and communications are so poor that it's laughably easy for someone to disappear just by moving to the next town, he chases the same convict across the country for decades. He only gives up after he cannot reconcile his mission with the fact that his prey has saved his life, and is in fact a good man.
- Determinators have a pretty rough time of it, with the possible exceptions of Valjean and Javert - there's Eponine and her insane devotion to Marius (who's oblivious of her), the revolutionaries who stay at the barricade even after it's obvious it's become suicide, and Fantine, who keeps working to save her daughter despite losing her teeth, hair, human dignity, health, and eventually her life.
- In The Wheel of Time, there are several instances.
- Rand.
- The Aiel, on the other hand, take an oath to be Determinators:
- The extinct nation of Manetheren, who took this trope to absolutely crazy extremes. The Trolloc Wars devastate the world? The Red Eagle of Manetheren flies at the forefront of every battle against the Dark One's armies. The Manetheren army receives word while still on the field of battle that a massive Trolloc army has Manethren in its sights and there's nothing they can do in time to save their home from a horrific fate? They march home faster than even their allies thought humanly possible and meet the army before it crosses the river into their territory. Said army includes a legion of Dreadlords and Ba'alzamon himself? Doesn't faze them one bit. Their aid from other nations (their one remote chance of surviving) is cut off by betrayal by the Amyrlin Seat? They keep on fighting, only crossing the river and burning its bridges when they don't have any more troops left to fight. They finally have to evacuate their beloved mountain city and flee because the Trollocs are at the gates? Some flee, but a huge part of the non-soldier population (most of which consists of farmers and shepherds with nothing but pitchforks) takes up the slack and rides out to fight the Trollocs in a titanic final battle. Every last one of them gets massacred? The Queen, fueled by her anger over the death of her beloved husband on the field of battle, nukes the entire Trolloc army with the One Power, destroying herself and the abandoned city in the process. The few survivors of Manetheren, rather than fleeing to other lands, decide to stay and rebuild what they can. Holy. Freaking. Crap.
- Roland of Gilead, the Gunslinger of Stephen King's The Dark Tower series is determined to make it in spite of losing every friend he ever had, losing a few fingers and toes, and every old man's bane, arthritis.
- Lisbeth Salander from Stieg Larsson's Millennium trilogy: Do whatever you want to this 4 feet 11 inches tall girl: strand her on a bed for one full year, beat her nearly to death, rape her in the most gruesome way you can imagine, attack her in the middle of a tropical storm, send half the Scandinavian police after her, shoot her in the head then bury her, she will get back and have her revenge no matter what.
- Captain Ahab, from Moby-Dick.
- Given the large number of books, it's no surprise that Discworld has featured several.
- Big Fido of Men At Arms is a tiny poodle that rose up through the ranks of the feral dog population by being a small, fast, impossible to defeat, killing machine. The narration notes that you could have sandblasted him for five minutes and what was left 'still wouldn't have given up and you'd better not turn your back on it'.
- Then there are Zombies, who are literally fueled by their obstinate refusal to die. Reg Shoe is probably the shining example.
- Vimes gets a couple of points here too. The man managed to outlive zombies, Trolls, and Golems in an alternate universe where the Watch was wiped out by Klatch. Not to mention killing two werewolves with his bare hands, getting taken off the list of acceptable targets by the Assassins' Guild (a move he was inclined to appeal), taking history by the throat and making it cry uncle...the man is the living embodiment of this trope!
- Also, the Luggage. Yes, its sole purpose for existing was to carry luggage around in extra-dimensional space for its owner, and it was only armed with its own lid as a mouth, a big red tongue, and the hundreds of very short, very small feet it used to move around. But it has an amazing track record, fighting across multiple continents, along the bottoms of oceans, from the end of time to the beginning of creation (in that order), fighting with the incarnation of a God of madness, and smashing through a diamond shell that encased it.
- The protagonist of half of John Steakley's novel Armor joins the military in a Bug War. This leads to him being in scout armor (weaker than standard issue) in a mission gone very wrong. He's the only person to survive the mission, which, due to a processing error, means he gets sent on every single high casualty raid against the bugs. He doesn't quit. He doesn't complain. He doesn't die. He just kills. Over and over again, eventually devoting a whole mental subroutine to living through constant war.
- The Deliverators from Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash will get you your pizza pie within thirty minutes or else the head of the corporation will fly down by helicopter and personally apologize for wasting your time, offering your family free tickets to Sicily at a luxury resort for compensation. Needless to say, they do not give up lightly. Of course, considering that they work for Cosa Nostra Pizza, and given their boss's original full time occupation, I would not want to cause him to be 'inconvienced' either.
- Fëanor, from The Silmarillion, who has a dying vision that the Noldor will never defeat Morgoth, and tells his sons to keep their oath to take back the Silmarils at all costs anyhow. His sons die too early or break down at the end.
- And that was after he got himself - and his followers - banned from Valinor for the actions they took in pursuit of the Silmarils. The Feanorians' Oath was basically to be unfettered Determinators about getting the Silmarils back. Which they sort of do, eventually. They only really break down after learning that it was all for nothing.
- Speaking of JRR Tolkien, Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli's pursuit of the orc band who kidnapped Merry and Pippin in The Lord Of The Rings shows that they have a bit of The Determinator in them as well. And then there's Samwise Gamgee, a simple gardener and loyal friend/servant/batman
to Frodo, who is the only member of the Fellowship who actually makes good on their original goal: to carry the Ring to Mount Doom and destroy it (though the last part was accomplished with a bit of unwitting help from Gollum).
- Villain Protagonist Knight Templar head of the Guardian Service Operations Headquarters General and Colonel Stanis Alexander Rashid Trastamara from Yulia Latynina's Inhuman, just after an insanely odds-defying assassination of the Evil Prince and escape from his fortress:
 It was not as though Stanis thought he could get away. It was just a matter of principle: don't give up before someone fries your head with a laser, and don't do it yourself. This, after all... was the difference between him and the poor terrorist he stopped [at the spaceport by tackling him immediately upon noticing the mark of a symbiont, despite himself having broken legs from a recent botched operation and disabled prosthetics]. He did not seek death. He sought victory.
- Raistlin Majere of Dragonlance was willing to sacrifice anything for his goal - his brother, his love, his health, his sanity, his life. By the way, his goal? To defeat and replace the gods.
- Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride. His "overdeveloped sense of vengeance" drove him onward to a truly iconic Crowning Moment Of Awesome.
- Corwin, from Roger Zelazny's Book of Amber series. In the first book he fights his way up a thousand-foot staircase packed with enemy soldiers. Though he is overpowered, captured, starved, and has his eyes burnt out of his head, he eventually gets better and escapes. While still emaciated and weak he encounters an injured man threatened by monsters; he kills the monsters, builds a cairn over the dead with hundred-pound stones, then runs for a day and a night while carrying the wounded man in his arms, without pausing to rest. After that, he stops slacking off.
- Khalifa in Bones of the Hills pursues the Mongol expeditionary force across approximately 150 miles of desert, during which time several horses on both sides die and the Mongols' and Arabs' eyes are rubbed red by dust. Unfortunately for him, Jochi and Jebe paced themselves to always remain just outside the range of the Arabs' bows so that, when dawn broke, the Mongols could turn around and more easily pick off the slightly less tired Arabs. When this happened, Jebe ordered their Chinese conscripts to move to the back line, but Shu Ten proved his determinator credentials by begging the generals to let his men fight on the front lines despite not having the toughness or endurance that comes from growing up in the steppes.
- The Star Wars Expanded Universe was aware that fans liked Boba Fett enough that he couldn't just be left to die ignominiously. So how did he escape something that preserves and digests victims over the course of millenia, trapping them in their own and each other's memories, while keeping them entirely immobile? With great difficulty. Go to And I Must Scream and ctrl-f "Sarlacc".
- Supreme Commander Pellaeon is an interesting aversion. Despite being on the side infamous for a wasteful blaze-of-glory Last Stand everytime they're defeated, he holds the remnants of the Empire together even as the odds get increasingly desperate. But he does so by having patience, not by being the antithesis of patience.
- Tom Purdom's novella "Bank Run" includes "purpose-conditioned" mercenaries, psychologically programmed to be Determinators.
- Bud White spends years investigating a series of prostitute killings only he believes to be connected. When he finally gets his man and beats him to death despite suffering massive injuries in the process, "Bud White refused to die. (...) He survived massive shock, neurological trauma, the loss of over half the blood in his body."
- From the Warhammer 40000 Last Chancer's novels comes Colonel Schaeffer. He and his personally chosen squads of felons and prisoners are given the most dangerous, desperate and vital missions the Inquisition can come up with. He's been run over by a tank, had his eyes cut out, shot uncounted times and gotten into fist fights with daemons. The Mechanicus has kept him alive for over 300 years by adding new parts to him whenever the old ones get shot off. To quote one of the men under his command, 'He has never failed'.
- Darkfur in Ghost Hunter. She fights an eagle owl, survives a fall from a cliff into a river, travels through an ice-storm in the (literally) freezing rain, treks over an icy wasteland - all the while with a nasty injury on her leg, and all in the name of rescuing her cub Pebble.
- In Mossflower, Martin the Warrior fits this trope perfectly. After being repeatedly savaged by a wildcat and being knocked down time after time, this mouse keeps rising back up to fight some more, refusing to just lie down and die.
- Miles Vorkosigan of the Vorkosigan Saga has this approach to pretty much anything he sets his mind to. Four foot nine inches tall, with brittle bones, he really wants to go into the army. Aged seventeen, he undergoes a Training From Hell in order to be allowed to try the physical... and breaks both his legs a few minutes in. A normal person would choose another career at this point. Miles... finds a side entrance. And later, when he asks someone to marry him... he always tries again when he gets a refusal. From three different women. In one case, repeatedly over the course of several years. Just as well the man has charm.
- Scarlett O'Hara.
- Melly has her moments too, when it comes to defending Scarlett.
- Meyer Landsman, the hard-boiled detective protagonist of The Yiddish Policemen's Union is shot, gets the crap beaten out multiple times, chased through the snow in his underpants, suffers withdrawal, and faces a lot of emotional and political turmoil on a case he shouldn't even be investigating.
- Bigwig from Watership Down. His Chief Rabbit told him to defend that run, and he's going to damn well do it until the Chief tells him to stop!
- Several of the rabbits qualify, actually.
- Roran of the Inheritance Cycle, a man whose determination carries him to accomplish almost ludicrously extreme feats. When his village becomes condemned by The Empire, he uses his potent charisma to convince his people to flee their homes and travel from the northern tip of Alagaesia to the sun-drenched country of Surda in the far south, avoiding Galbatorix's troops all the while. He joins the Varden, kills the Twins (two extremely powerful magicians) with his hammer, slaughters 193 enemy soldiers in one go, survives being given 50 lashes to the back by Nasuada for insubordination and is up and fighting again a few days later, journeys across Alagaesia to rescue his kidnapped girlfriend from the mountain lair Helgrind, wrestles a battle-crazed urgal to the ground until the beast surrenders and acknowledges Roran as the stronger, and rises his way up to a commander in the Varden after only a couple of months of service. And he does this all without any magic whatsoever. Yeah, Eragon doesn't look so impressive next to that, does he?
- Ethan Gage from William Dietrich's books Napoleon's Pyramids and The Rosetta Key. No matter what his enemies throw at him, he manages to survive it, including dangling him over a pit of snakes, burying him up to his neck in the middle of the desert and sending an entire (Napoleonic) French military brigade after him. His enemies ask him whether or not he is immortal on several occasions, Including Napoleon right before his planned execution
Live Action TV
Music
- And its Spanish similar of sorts, Dúo Dinámico's "Resistiré
".
- Eye of the Tiger by Survivor
- "It's My Life" by Bon Jovi
- Also by Bon Jovi, "Livin' On a Prayer".
- "Stay Hungry" by Twisted Sister
- Pick a song by DragonForce. Any song.
- "No Surrender", and "Unstoppable" (among others) by Bone Thugs N Harmony
- "Stand" by Motorhead
- "I’m Alive
" and "Indestructible " by Disturbed.
- Queen's "The Show Must Go On" not only fits this trope in lyrics, but also in purpose; it was intended as Freddie Mercury's last defiant stab at death. It was released shortly before he died of AIDS.
- Pat Benetar's Invincible.
- "Until the End" by Breaking Benjamin.
- "Curse of Feanor" by Blind Guardian - it is about Fëanor, after all. You can find his entry in the literature section.
- Stand
by Rascal Flatts.
- Like a Rock
by Bob Seager.
Mythology
- Odysseus and his wife Penelope, sticking through twenty years of painful separation...well, mostly Penelope. Odysseus...well, at least he did keep trying to get home through impossible odds.
Newspaper Comics
Professional Wrestling
- Pretty much every main event Face in Professional Wrestling since Hulk Hogan, and half the Heels too. Incidentally, being a Determinator is one of the things that can make a heel a Draco In Leather Pants. It worked for Steve Austin, after all. In fact, wrestling actually has so many Determinators running around, that it actually has a contest to see who the biggest Determinator actually is: the I Quit Match, a special Gimmick Match in which the only way for the match to end is for one of the participants to say the phrase, "I Quit," on a live mic, in front of the thousands of fans in the arena and the millions watching at home. Naturally, I Quit matches tend to be among the most brutal affairs one can see in wrestling.
- Austin lost his "I Quit" match vs. Bret Hart by passing out while in Hart's "Sharpshooter" hold, rather than submit. He'd rather deal with enough pain to make him lose consciousness than give up. That was just about the turning point...
- Kenta fucking Kobashi. This defined him. He lost over 60 matches in a row in AJPW, was constantly pinned in tag matches, and overall was made to look like he just barely lost for quite some time. This even worked it's way into his finisher, the Burning Hammer, where he was so determined to beat rival/friend Mitsuharu Misawa he had to invent a move that has yet to be kicked out of.
Tabletop Games
- Dungeons And Dragons actually has monsters based around this trope. The Inevitables, a race of extra-planar automotons, are designed to uphold the universal concept of law. Someone who has escaped a fate destined for them, or otherwise gained the ire of the Inevitables will be hunted down unceasingly by these creatures. If you manage to kill one that's after you, they'll just send more. No matter where you hide, no matter which plane of existence you flee to, they will hunt you down until you are dead.
- Characters that take the Diehard feat (and it's required precursor Endurance) tend to be the ones that will finish a fight, even if it kills them. (D&D has a 10 HP buffer between KO'ed and dead as a doornail, Diehard allows a character to ignore the KO and keep fighting at the cost of their few remaining HP)
- The real Game Breaker is the Frenzied Berserker class. When one of these goes into his Unstoppable Rage, she literally cannot be killed or stopped by hit point damage. The frenzied berserk in question may have less than 100 hit points, but you can do millions of points of damage and she'll continue fighting. This state of affairs will continues until she calms down, at which point her wounds suddenly take full effect.
- However, in the rules, they specifically mention that non-hit-point-damage ways of killing still take full effect (such as being brought to -10 hp by a disintegration spell or by a Death effect).
- Some animals in the game, such as badgers and wild boars (as well as their giant-sized monstrous counterparts) are given an ability similar to the Frenzied Berserker.
- 4th Edition's Epic Destinies give almost any epic-level character a means to cheat death. The best of all might be the Dark Wanderer destiny, which allows the character to will himself back to life within seconds. The only drawback is that it takes longer to do each time you die in a day.
- Between Space Marines, Necrons, Imperial Assassins, Orks, Tyranids and various other daemons, freaks, unkillable monsters and religious maniacs, Warhammer 40000 has a horrifying number of these.
- The Necrons and their C'Tan gods are [un]living embodiments of this trope. Shoot them, they repair themselves. Blow them to bits with explosives, they reassemble. Rout them, they phase out and will come back for more eventually. Shoot the C'Tan with the combined power of thirteen Blackstone Fortresses, each capable of destroying a star (and the system along with it), and which fire the only weapon in existence, they're noted as powerless against and vulnerable to, and they take a nap (although how much damage the C'Tan in question sustained is unknown, as it has been "napping" ever since, for 60 million years, and doesn't show any indications of waking up yet). Force the entire race into hibernation, and a few billion years later, they'll wake back up and resume the attack with gusto. Each and every Necron is a Determinator, and there are thousands of them at minimum, complete with physics-bending weapons, vehicles, and starships.
- The Imperial Guard get special mention, as the entire army is one giant Determinator. Unlike their opponents, the regular troops of the Guard are just ordinary men and women who will often break and flee in the face of the mind-breaking horrors they have to fight. However, the Guard itself as an organization is a massive, unstoppable entity that soaks up casualties without stopping, refusing to break and surrender in the face of the tremendous suffering and terror it has to deal with.. The common strategy of the guard is to simply march their men straight into the enemy fire while simultaneously blasting everything in front of them with massed artillery.
- A more specific example would be the Death Korps of Krieg. These regiments are renowned as Determinators in an army of Determinators. The Death Korps soldiers unflinchingly advance under fire and dig in with World War I style tactics, seeing their massive casualties as penance for a planet-wide rebellion on Krieg millennia ago. They won't give an inch of ground as long as there are guardsmen living to grind it out in the trenches.
- The Space Marines embody this trope to the t. Not only are they heavily armoured supersoldiers with the ability to withstand wounds that would kill a normal man thrice over, they are also unshaken n their faith and determination. Some notable examples include the Ultramarines 1st (veteran) company that defended their chapter fortress against the innumerable Tyranid swarms. They managed to hold them back long enough for the orbiting fleet to drive off the Tyranid hiveships, even though it cost them all their lives (as well as several nearly irreplaceable suits of Terminator armour). Also deserving of mention are the Grey Knights, which are always eliter-than-elite's-elite, who has never had any of its order succumb to the call of the Chaos Gods. Then you start going into the named and higher-ranked characters and see what Warhammer 40K is going for. It is said that "A fortress will not stop the Space Marines, although it may slow them down"
- Generally averted with the Tau, whose military doctrine considers ground won as irrelevant beyond being a place to kill the enemy. They consider a heroic Last Stand to be the mark of an incompetent or unimaginative commander, and won't hestitate in retreating from a strong enemy attack. However, that all goes out the window if a Tau army's Ethereal leader is killed. The Tau version of battle-rage involves slowly advancing while pouring ridiculous amounts of fire into the enemy, only stopping when they run out of ammunition.
- The Orks have an... Interesting view about defeat. Basically, they never lose. If they win, that's good. If they're defeated, they're dead, so that doesn't count. And if they retreat, it's for coming back later fur annuver go with more boyz and More Dakka. Those green barbarians just won't stop coming at your throat until you'd have wiped them all from a planet's ground... And as they emit tons of spores upon their deaths which will form new Orks, even this won't stop them from coming back. Unless you Kill It With Fire, in which you may reduce it.
- Their galactic empire has collapsed. Their species is moving towards extinction and they have no real hope or chance remaining. What do they do? Do they flee the galaxy to live in peace? No, the Eldar keep fighting.
- Mainly because they can't flee. The Webway they use for FTL was made by their creators and has set positions, the Eldar can't repair or change it themselves and it doesn't extend beyond the galaxy. They could have curled up in a small corner of the galaxy and waited for Chaos to consume their souls and torture them for eternity though.
- The Death Guard Leigon have Plague Marines, who simply laugh at the bullets and las-fire going straight through their rotted, decaying chests and continue to shamble towards the enemy.
- 7thSea's Erich Sieger, a ruler so stubborn that he salted the earth of his own lands to prevent an invading army from capturing it. He's the poster boy for the mechanical advantage the system calls, "Man of Will".
Video Games
- Apparently, in Princess Waltz, Badass and Determinator go hand in hand. This is even lampshaded.
- Kratos from God Of War and its sequel and prequel. He's literally climbed out of Hell... three times. As he puts it: "If all of Olympus would deny me my vengeance, then all of Olympus must die!" The fact that his only clear motivation is the desire to kick the ass of anyone who screws with him just solidifies his status as an undiluted Bad Ass.
- The space marine from Doom utterly refuses to go down without a fight, despite the fact that all hell has literally broken loose, and he is the only non zombified person in millions of miles. He proceeds to blow up all the demons and zombified people that are attacking him. He then fights his way into Hell, kills everything there, and fights his way back out. And that's just the first game. In Doom 2, he indirectly destroys Hell. Talk about a Bad Ass Normal.
- He gets even more badass. In the Nintendo 64 exclusive Doom 64 (the last game in the Doom franchise before it was rebooted with Doom 3) one powerful "mother" demon resurrects everything Doomguy had killed in his previous fights. His response? Eradicate anything between him and the Mother, kill her, and then stay in Hell to make sure the demons don't try anything like that ever again.
- Axel Almer from Super Robot Wars: Original Generation 2 is absolutely obsessed with defeating Kyosuke Nanbu. The part that makes him a Determinator is that his actual beef is with the Kyosuke Nanbu from Axel's original dimension (he is part of an invasion from another dimension), this Kyosuke is known as "Beowulf" and repeatedly humiliated Axel in battle. The fact that this dimension's Kyosuke has no idea who Axel is or why he is so determined to defeat him doesn't seem to matter to Axel.
- Original Generations mellows Axel's Determinator personality a little, but he's still intent on stopping Kyosuke. Though he just uses another reason. And when he's Back From The Dead in OG Gaiden and had a Heel Face Turn, he seems to completely lose his Determinator status...
- And speaking of Kyosuke Nanbu, whenever something happens to his partner and lover Excellen Browning, he himself becomes a Determinator, plowing through anything in his path to get her back.
- And, of course, Zengar Zombolt, despite being easily one of the most competent of the heroes and in a powerful machine to boot often finds himself outmatched, outgunned, and even out and out disabled. His response? "Shut up! And listen! I am Zengar Zombolt! The sword that cleaves evil!"
- Luca Blight, the main villain of Suikoden II is the embodiment of this trope. Despite being the prince (and later king) of a massive country, he is the single most powerful human warrior on his side of the field (and arguably, the entire Suikoden universe), turning the tides of entire wide scale battles simply by appearing and punishing/killing any of his men for so much as hesitating in battle. If more proof is needed, his death scene should make this trope obvious. This trait, combined with the fact that he is a sadistic Omnicidal Maniac and a Nietzsche Wannabe, makes him a very intimidating and frightening villain.
- Deconstructed in Tales of Symphonia: Part of what made the Knight Templar main villain what he is was that he could not, in any way, manage to give up on his ideals as they became more and more warped and admit that there might be a better way to do it - even as he lies dying, he is unrepentant and claims he would do the same things over again if given the chance to redo his life. This puts the villain in sharp contrast with Lloyd, whose ideals also clash with the way the world works - Lloyd, however, knows to yield and learn from his mistakes when it is obvious that he has done wrong, which is an integral part of the Character Development that turns him into The Messiah.
- Final Fantasy:
- The "Unsent" from Final Fantasy X are people who've died but still cling to existence through sheer willpower.
- Final Fantasy VIII has Seifer, who refuses to back down no matter how many times he gets his ass handed to him, even after it's been made clear to him that he's being manipulated and used by the Big Bad.
- And to balance his determination, there's Squall, who develops into an immense Determinator in the third disc of the game. When faced with the only possibility of saving Rinoa after she goes comatose being crossing an ocean-spanning bridge on foot, he doesn't even hesitate, and carries her on his back, on foot, all the way across. Empty, monster-filled wasteland stretching on for tens of miles ahead of him? He just keeps walking. Finding himself inside a technologically advanced and potentially hostile country? Keeps moving forward. Finds out the only way to save her is to go into space? No hesitation to go up there. When she gets hurled out into the voids of space and all he's got is a quarter of an hour's worth of oxygen in his suit, and no real guarantee he's going to save her if he can get to her, Squall hurls himself right out after her. Nothing, and we mean nothing is going to stop him from saving her.
- Galuf from Final Fantasy V does it too. ExDeath has the party held down with the Crystals, and when Galuf's granddaughter Krile swoops in and interrupts ExDeath yet again, he traps her in a burning ring of fire and slams her across the room a few times. All seems lost... until Galuf gets up, powers through the Crystal's force beam despite the fact that he'll make it shatter in doing so, goes into the ring of flame to rescue Krile, then, while aflame in more ways than one, charges at ExDeath and starts to go out fighting. Galuf's HP slowly decreases throughout the battle, but he won't stop kicking even at 0 - not even after being hit with successive use of the universe's three most powerful spells. Once ExDeath is defeated, though, Galuf finally collapses, and all the items and magic in the world won't bring him back.
- Terra, from Final Fantasy VI. With the defeat of Kefka, the source of magic is gone and all Espers are vanishing from the world. This includes the Half-Esper Terra. Even knowing this, Terra chooses to enter her Trance form and lead the party out of the collapsing Tower. In the final stages of the ending, after the last shard of Magicite has vanished, Terra is still flying in order to lead the airship out, even as her power wanes and she begins to fall. In the end, The Falcon catches Terra, who has reverted to a human form. Not only does she manage to outlive every other Esper on sheer determination, she manages to completely survive, albeit as a human.
- Along the same lines, Locke has his girlfriend put in to suspended animation until he can revive her with something he didn't even know existed at the time. He spends most of the game looking for it, up to and including the end of the world. Of course, when he does find it his girlfriend decides to die and fix the Esper so that the party can use it. Deciding who you are and what your purpose is for yourself is kind of a recurring theme in that game.
- Cloud, from Final Fantasy VII, especially shown in his pre-game fight with Sephiroth. Sixteen years old, relatively untrained, no super powers or super strength, 5'7" tops (assuming he didn't grow between ages sixteen and twenty-one) and maybe 100 pounds soaking wet and fighting against The General - several inches taller and with considerably greater mass, genetically manipulated, insanely strong (and just insane). Cloud is knocked out while his town burns, but gives chase, eventually fighting Sephiroth, getting impaled by Sephiroth, and while still impaled on the man's blade and hoisted several feet in the air, somehow manages to get the upper hand and send Sephiroth flying into a pit of Mako. Not half bad!
- Caim, the protagonist of Drakengard, has it in for every single Empire soldier and civilian. All of them. He will kill them all. No one will escape. Even his dragon mount, who detests all of humanity, says to him, "Must you slaughter so many?" Not even The End Of The World As We Know It keeps him from fulfilling his vengeance.
- Adell from Disgaea takes this to the point where it actually grants him in-game bonuses: he deals extra damage against enemies with a higher level than himself.
- Vyse from Skies Of Arcadia. In fact, his Infinity Plus One Title can only be achieved by (among other things) never running from a single battle. At all.
- About everyone who has or once was supposed to have a Snake in his name from the Metal Gear Solid series.
- Liquid Snake. Pretty determined to kill his brother. He even beats him up after falling off a story tall Metal Gear.
- Naked Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3 is a straighter example in that he keeps on going even though his mentor kicks his ass every time they meet.
- Raiden in Metal Gear Solid 4 is equaled in his stubborn desire to get himself killed only by his inability to give up under any circumstances. A vampire is stabbing you repeatedly in the chest? Just fight harder! A building falls on you? You don’t need your limbs! Someone drops a battle ship on your head? Bring it on.
- Hell, Raiden's predecessor, the Cyborg Ninja Grey Fox is almost the total embodiment of this trope. After all, he gets brought back from being killed by a land mine and takes on a walking assault tank armed with lasers, railguns, rockets etc. And even then only begins to slow down after having a third of his body sliced off.
- Not to mention Solid Snake himself, who spends most of the time between later missions coughing up his lungs and trying to put himself back together with sticky tape. It doesn't stop him for a moment.
- There's a point where he crawled through what's essentially a giant microwaved hallway, even if you lost all your health/psyche points, he will still crawl out... by his fingertips!
- Ocelot - the only character to appear in all the MGS games - is stubborn enough to implant another personality into himself to carry on the plans his idol had for the world.
- Volgin. Beat him up with your fists, grenades, shotgun, and whatever else you may have, and then blow up the weapons hangar with him in it? He blasts his way out with the Shagohod and chases after you, trampling everything and everyone who would get in his way, including flipping over a jet on the runway. Blow up the bridge he’s crossing? He launches the Shagohod out of the wreckage and keeps coming. Pepper the Shagohod with RPGs until it finally breaks down? He punches his way out of the cockpit, uses his electrical powers to reanimate the blasted husk of a tank, and keeps on coming while you fire more RPGs and sniper bullets at his exposed body. And he STILL DOESN’T DIE until being struck by a lightning causes the bullets he wears all over his body to explode. Liquid would be proud.
- From Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, Captain Price.
- "The healthy human mind doesn't wake up in the morning thinking this is its last day on Earth. But I think that's a luxury. Not a curse. To know you're close to the end is a kind of freedom. Good time to take...inventory. Outgunned. Outnumbered. Out of our minds. On a suicide mission. But the sand and the rocks here, stained with thousands of years of warfare...They will remember us. For this. Because out of all our vast array of nightmares, this is the one we choose for ourselves. We go forward like a breath exhaled from the Earth. With vigor in our hearts and one goal in sight: We. Will. Kill him."
- Soap qualifies as well. What do you do when you just went over a waterfall in an inflatable raft after holding it still so Captain Price could shoot the pilot of a helicopter? You drag yourself out of the water to check if Shepherd's dead. What do you do when you've been stabbed in the chest and Captain Price is apparently beating the tar out of Shepherd? Go crawl towards the gun Shepherd dropped. And finally, when you're laying on the ground, bleeding out from the knife wound and watching Shepherd beating Price into submission, what do you do? You pull the knife out of your chest and throw it at Shepherd, finally killing him.
- Vhailor from Planescape: Torment, a Knight Templar so unstoppably dedicated to his cause that he didn't even realize he was dead, and endured as a haunted suit of armor
- Doctors Robotnik and Wily from the Sonic The Hedgehog and Mega Man series share more than just a PhD in robotics: no matter how many times the heroes stop their plans to take over the world, they keep coming back. Heck, toss Bowser from Super Mario Bros in and you have a triumvirate.
- Mario And Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story turns Bowser's determination into full-on Heroic Resolve. When put in the role of a protagonist he'll let nothing will stop him from trying to beat up Fawful and getting Peach, not even an Eldritch Abomination taking his form.
- Beautifully shown with one of Dark Bowser's attacks where he conjures shadowy versions of just about every type of creature in Bowser's army and sics them on the Koopa King. How do you combat this onslaught? By simply trudging forward, stopping every few seconds to block an attack or swat another minion out of your way, because nobody's going to stop you!
- Sonic The Hedgehog himself is a pretty fair example. Although it's often obscured by his eternal optimism and devil-may-care attitude, it's clear to see that he will never say die. The most notable example of his determination is Sonic and the Black Knight, where it's his will and determination that gives him the strength to hold his ground against the Dark Queen, even after she's beaten him to within an inch of his life.
- Mario himself while we're at it. No matter what the setting, the genre or whether he's alone or with allies, the only real personality traits he has are kindness and simply not stopping.
- Emiya Shiro from Fate/Stay Night simply refuses to die (or stop) when someone he cares about is in danger, or someone is about to create danger for others, even when his opponent's power is several levels of magnitude higher than his. Slashed from shoulder to waist, overloaded nerves in half the body, broken arms and legs, cuts and slashes, loss of sight, flung into the air from wind pressure, thrown out third-floor windows, et cetera... he'll still keep trying.
- Both the Master Chief and the Arbiter in Halo fit this pretty well. The Chief in particular literally does not believe in losing and will continue fighting against any odds.
Cortana: Just one question: what if you miss? Master Chief: I won't.
- There is a saying about the Silencers of the Crusader series: "Silencers get the job done." They might not survive, but they will get the job done.
- Every single character in the Thing Thing series.
- Gruntilda from Banjo-Kazooie. She gets pecked and shot with eggs several times, gets slammed by a high-powered jinjo around twenty times, falls off her tower making a hole in the ground, gets hit again when a huge rock slams down on the hole...and still struggles to get the boulder off. In the sequel, she's freed after having spent two years in the hole, having been reduced to a skeleton, but immediately blows up the protagonist's house.
- And that's just at the beginning of the second game. At the end of Banjo-Tooie, she is reduced to a skull. And proceeded to spend the next eight years rolling and hopping across the country solely to take revenge on Banjo and Kazooie. She's prepared to fight them even without any discernable means of doing so before L.O.G. turns up.
- After Sparkster destroys most of its body, the final boss of Rocket Knight Adventures follows him off the exploding Pig Star and keeps fighting him as they re-enter Elhorn's atmosphere. It doesn't stop trying to kill him until it is vaporized by the heat.
- In the Wing Commander series, the Kilrathi embody this trope. In fact, it's established in Wing Commander 3 that they literally don't know the meaning of the word "surrender" (even those few who are truly well-studied in Terran languages and culture seem to have trouble grasping the concept of it).
- Wander from Shadow Of The Colossus. As the game progresses, Wander's body is clearly deteriorating from all of his battles. Not even something as petty as dying could stop him. He must really have loved her.
- Link of The Legend Of Zelda will do freakin' anything to stop the Big Bad, including setting off volcanoes, turning back country-sized shrouds of twilight, killing monsters across multiple worlds as a kid, and generally making the timestream his bitch. And if he has some fairies with him...
- Link is matched only by his greatest nemesis, Ganon. Turn Ganon to stone, lock him in a void, or just SLAY him, Ganon will rise again. It just doesn't stick. Of course, it helps that the Triforce bearers have some kind of mutual reanimation clause going on. In Ocarina of Time, when Link defeats him, he coughs up blood and stops breathing. Then, after Link and Zelda escape, he somehow comes back to life and turns into Ganon. After Link kills him for the second time by stabbing him through the head, he shows up again in the very next cutscene having apparently sustained no physical injuries and is just trapped in the Sacred Realm.
- Zagi from Tales of Vesperia. After running into the protagonist Yuri in Zaphias Castle, he mistakes him for Flynn- whom he's trying to kill- and attacks him. After losing, Zagi continues trying to kill Yuri, even though he knows he's not the man he was looking for, because he was "the first man to ever make him bleed". You proceed to fight him 4 more times before the end of the game.
- K.Rool, antagonist of the Donkey Kong series. Each boss fight with him requires him to take a massive amount of punishment before going down, and in the second game he survives being eaten by sharks.
- Max Payne. Both games take place in a timespan of about 24 hours, during which Max hardly ever rests, is beaten up repeatedly, falls from serious heights, is shot and drugged on a regular basis and only really remains standing by virtue of dozens of dozens of painkillers. Of course, none of this stops him from going on a (mostly) solo Roaring Rampage Of Revenge across town, until he's found and killed whoever mistakenly believed that killing a maverick cop with a deathwish was going to be easy.
Nicole Horne: What do you mean, "he's unstoppable"? You are superior to him in every way that counts. You are better trained, better equipped, and you outnumber him at least twenty-to-one. Do. Your. Job. Vladimir Lem: What the fuck is wrong with you, Max? Why don't you just die? You hate life, you're miserable all the time, afraid to enjoy yourself even a little! Face it, you might as well be dead already. Do yourself a favor, give up!
- Isaac Clarke from Dead Space. He has fought an entire Planet Cracker vessel's worth of space zombies (and their Hive Mind) while doing more than the repairs he was originally sent for, as well as being roped into a Thirty Xanatos Pileup between The Mole and an artificial Artifact Of Doom, coming out on top of it all, while being supposedly insane, all because he wanted to find his girlfriend. And during the scene where his girlfriend turns out to have been Dead All Along, Isaac's Heroic BSOD lasts all of five seconds, then he gets back to work. And by work I mean taking out giant freaking monsters with mining tools.
- Shepard and the gang from Mass Effect. They face incredible odds to say the least, and Failure Is Not An Option. In addition, most of the alien races seem to thunk humans are like this on a species level, largely because human first contact with an alien race was a short war with the main galactic superpower which was fought to a stalemate (it ended before the Turian's resource advantage could be brought to bear).
- The entire crew of the Normandy in Mass Effect 2.
- Prince of Persia: Warrior Within has the Dahaka, an embodiment of fate and guardian of the timeline, who hunts the Prince after he attracted its attention by his liberal use of time-altering powers that allowed him to cheat death many times over in the first game. And in the other corner the Prince himself, who is just as determined to find a way to get rid of the monster as the Dahaka is to kill him. A secondary character lampshades this:
Kaileena: I had hoped the Dahaka would kill you. I had hoped that Shahdee would keep you from the Island. I even cursed the sword I gave you, AND YET YOU DID NOT DIE!
- Jon Irenicus of Shadows of Amn has one thing on his mind: the power he was denied when the Seldarine prevented him from becoming a god. If he has to rip the souls from living men and women, temporarily surrender to the authorities just so their guard is down and he can break out, work with thieves and vampires, make pacts with sworn foes of his people, pretend to be a humble servant, slaughter his kin or destroy entire cities to attain it, he will. You have to fight him no less than three times in the game, killing him twice. And after all that, after following him to Hell and kicking his astral butt there, the ending cutscene shows his soul incarnating again and attempting to fight off a horde of gibbering demons with his bare hands.
- Another example would be Sarevok, the Big Bad from the first game. He appears in the Very Definitely Final Dungeon in Shadows of Amn, and after dying there he appears to the player in Throne Of Bhaal, the final installment, having pulled himself back into a ghostly existence through sheer willpower in order to bargain his (vital) knowledge for the piece of the player's soul he needs to resurrect himself.
Sarevok;" Hahahahaaaa! I Live! Flesh and blood and bone! I swore I would scratch and crawl my way back into the world of the living... and I have done it!"
- Crono of Chrono Trigger is pretty determined to protect his friends. "What's that, ancient evil? You've kicked my ass without even blinking and now you think you've won? Well, I'm not done yet!" (Then he's done.)
- Magus is also a very good example. He survived in a (to him) post apocalyptic world, showering warfare on the world, all to find a way to kill the Cosmic Horror that ruined his life. His most famous quote embodies this trope:
Magus: If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!! I'm coming, Lavos!
- Ayla is this trope to a T, in fact it's her whole life's philosophy and probably why there's a human race at all in the game world. Her most famous quote says it all:
Ayla: Ayla alive, Ayla fight! Win, live. Lose, die. That rule. No can change rule.
- Alwan in the Geneforge series. After surviving an attack on his school, his dedication to the Shapers results in him becoming the General in charge of defeating the Rebellion, personally leading a stealth attack on the Rebellion stronghold, somehow surviving massive injuries after the attack goes awry, and becoming the leader of a faction despite ending up like this
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- F.E.A.R.'s Alma is one of these, to a point where her sheer force of will allowed her to survive six days of being drowned with no life support (with one character commenting that she "simply refused to die") and her psychic presence continued to survive well after she finally died.
- The Replica troops are another variation on this, in that they will carry out whatever mission is given to them by their psychic commanders, immediately, without question, and without stopping until it has been completed, with no regard for their own lives. They'll go as far as suicidal frontal assaults to simply wound or slow down an opponent, to the point where they'll attack an enemy in a Humongous Mecha with rifles just to distract and delay it for a couple seconds.
- Asagi from various Nippon Ichi games. Five games, five years, as many defeats by actual main characters, playing second banana to a freakin' Prinny, and all of it still has not extinguished her desire to, finally, one day, become a main character.
- The main character from Persona 3, during the real Final Battle. He's receiving an attack that performs instant 9999 damage (in a game with a 999 HP cap) and still stands up. At first he's Weak to them and gets knocked off his feet, but The Power Of Friendship and The Power Of Love keep pulling him to his feet, until they coalesce into the mother of all Spirit Bombs that he uses to seal off the enemy... albeit at the cost of his own life.
- All of the protagonists of Lunar 2 fits this to some degree, except for Lucia. In fact, one of the key points of the game is the "power of humanity" to never give up even in the face of impossible odds. The best example is when the entire party is struck down by Ghaleon... and then, through sheer willpower, all five stand back up on their own and fight him a second time.
- The Willpower defense powerset in City Of Heroes is described as nothing supernatural, unlike Invulnerability, Regeneration, Fire/Ice/Stone Armor, and the like; the character's defenses stem entirely from the fact that even though "bullets don't bounce off of you, and if you are cut, you bleed," the character is "tough, grizzled and strong willed. It takes more than a little cut to keep you down!" Some examples of powers within this set are High Pain Tolerance, Mind Over Body, and Indomitable Will; the Eleventh Hour Superpower is called Strength of Will. Ironically, this is considered one of the better defense sets in the game, and is a favorite of Natural-origin Badass Normals.
- Takeshi in Ever17 comes down with Tief Blau, hasn't eaten in over a day, has been running around constantly when not passed out, is coughing up blood and suffers some really nasty decompression sickness right after being slammed into a wall. Then he swims through frigid, lightless water to rescue his love interest, swims back still without having rested and finally escapes. Then he's jettisoned out of a submarine to save his love interest again and sits on the ocean floor for a while, having drowned. And then a disembodied time traveler wakes him up, at which point he swims through the bottom of the ocean back into IBF, saves Coco and still lives to the story's True End. Oh, and he was dead/frozen on the ocean floor for at least long enough for a small robotic dog to swim down and recover the disc he was carrying. Three hundred feet down.
- In Knights of the Old Republic 2, this WAS Atton Rand's special ability. Unless he was the last man in the party standing, he literally got back up and kept fighting, his saving throws getting better the more damage was dished out on him!
- And of course Darth Sion, who has been shot, stabbed and blown up so many times that his sheer hatred and determination are literally all that's holding his body together. The only way to kill him is to convince him to give up.
- "NOTHING CAN PROTECT YOU FROM ME! NOT MEN! NOT WEAPONS! NOT ARMOR!"
- Would Rhythm-based games count, or should that go under Real Life? Either way, anyone who forces themselves through In The Groove's Determinator is certainly this.
- In the Chzo Mythos, Trilby qualifies for this trope, to the point where he is lying mortally injured, waiting for himself to be sacrificed to summon the avatar of a godly being and he Still. Won't. Die. Even when he acknowledges that it was only "his own stubbornness keeping him alive" and knowing that, should the Tall Man have no living sacrifice he would not answer the summons, you (the player) actually have to give Trilby the command to die. But then the ceremony still goes on, it just turns out that the Tall Man isn't picky with who he takes, instead absconding with the would-be sacrificer.
- Subverted in 5 Days A Sacrifice, wherein we find clones of Trilby who are close enough to qualify as the real deal as far as Chzo / De Foe / The Tall Man cares. Said clones are easily brainwashed, to the point where they serve as antagonists for half of the game. At the end Trilby (clone?) is seen quivering in terror inside of Chzo, cursed to the kind of immortal suffering that made the Tall Man into the Tall Man in the first place. Patently un-Determinator-like behavior all around.
- The entire Ur-Quan race in Star Control II. After being forced to conquer the known universe and kill their only friends by their telepathic masters, an Ur-Quan scientist discovered that intense pain causes the telepathic link to shut down, supposedly to prevent their enslavers from experiencing discomfort. He (it?) proceeds to drink enough caustic acid to ensure its own agonizing death and takes the few seconds it bought with its life to broadcast its findings to all the Ur-Quan in range. The self-mutilation that followed bought the Ur-Quan time to develop a device that provided its user with constant border-line unbearable pain without inflicting physical damage. They proceeded to fight an entire interstellar war, constantly in throes of agony. No wonder they want to enslave/destroy the universe.
- Samus Aran. Certain logbook entries written by the space pirates in the Prime series mentions that no matter what they do, nothing has been able to stop the "hunter clad in metal".
- Among the things they have tried are elite Commandos and Commanders trained specifically to kill her and only her, Elite Pirates with her common tactics programmed directly into their brains, turning her weapons against her, blowing up the planet she is on, and throwing Dark Samus at her, who herself has tried corrupting Samus with radioactive physics breaking phazon, collapsing a dimension on her, and blowing up yet another planet in an attempt to kill Samus. By this point, the Space Pirates truly believe that "The Hunter" is an Eldritch Abomination that has cursed them for eternity.
- The Tank, the motherfucking Tank, he will take several shotgun shots to the head, get burned, or even scale a building to try to kill those survivors.
- And the Witch, who can do the same things as the Tank (Except the scale a building part), all the while being more difficult to get rid of. Unless you know the trick to the easy kill...
- Hakumen from Blaz Blue spent ninety years of utter isolation in the Boundary - the same one that drove Arakune mad - and retained his sanity through sheer force of will.
- Shu from Blue Dragon is this, through a combination of youthful exuberance and steadfast...um...determination to protect those he cares about.
- The Hashashin from Assassin's Creed count. With all of the conspiracy theories and rewritten history strewn throughout the two games, only one thing is left absolutely certain: if Al-Mualim sends Altaïr after you, there is a 100% probability that you are going to die.
- One of the bosses in World Of Warcraft (Golemagg, in Molten Core) involves two giant dogs which are pets of the main boss. If you try to kill them while Golemagg is still alive, the game prints a message saying "Core Rager refuses to die while its master is in trouble!" and they heal back to full health.
- Three Words: Gordon Fucking Freeman
Webcomics
- Girl Genius: Airman Higgs got Baron Wulfenbach out of a burning airship and to safety. During which, he had to deal with a bunch of monsters, an irate Captain Dupree, and a goose, breaking three out of four limbs in the process and getting an infected bite. He managed to get to a town despite his injuries, where he got shot in his last undamaged limb. He informed the local garrison of Wulfenbach's predicament, then passed out.
- The Order Of The Stick's side character O-Chul, whom Big Bad Xykon is speaking of in the Quotes Wiki. Just see
for yourself .
- A more recent (and subtle) example: "It's Xykon's spell list. Or most of it, anyway." "Are you kidding?!? How did you get this??" "One saving throw at a time."
Web Original
- Chuck Norris Facts presents Chuck Norris as like this.
- Tifa Lockheart in the fan film series Dead Fantasy is an insanely awesome representation of this trope. Throughout five shorts, she has been slapped with an axe capable of downing a skyscraper, beaten to a bleeding pulp, which involved literally having the Materia knocked out of her, jumped onto a train, been slashed quite a few times, filled with arrows like it was target practice, stabbed through the arm, and chained up by kusarigama. It takes Hayate's intervention to finally stop her. This is enough that I'm personally going to try to build Tifa like a walking tank from here on out on replays of Final Fantasy VII.
- The Protectors Of The Plot Continuum. They have been led for a time by The Mole, faced a never-ending deluge of badfic, and been driven out of their headquarters by The Plague; however, they never stop the fight against Mary Sues.
- LordKaT
is brain behind the Until We Win videos, where he plays obscenely difficult video games and does not stop until he does in fact beat it.
Western Animation
- Robin, especially in situations where he takes a Batman-esque Badass Normal Leader role on a team; for instance, Teen Titans:
Starfire: They are too numerous to fight! What shall we do? Robin: Fight anyway!
- Prince Zuko from Avatar The Last Airbender. Even Sokka, one of his enemies, remarks, "If we know anything, it's that Zuko never gives up." This often gives him a short-sightedness leading to What Were You Thinking Moments with his uncle. Zuko even gives an entire pep talk on the subject in "The Boiling Rock"...and kind of fails at it. He put it best earlier:
Zuko: My father says [Azula] was Born Lucky. He says I was lucky to be born. I don't need luck though; I don't want it. I've always had to struggle and fight and that's made me strong. It's made me who I am.
- To a slightly lesser extent, Katara. Want to learn waterbending? Just a quick trip to the other side of the world. Your new friend's in prison? Okay, get yourself arrested and break him out. The local waterbending master won't teach girls? It's cool, just practice in secret, challenge him to a fight, and proceed to master the element faster than the Avatar. Want to help that repressed village? No problem, just disguise yourself as a minor deity and destroy a polluting factory. Oh, and about those guys who killed your mom... Not to mention several times she is all that's holding the team together, most notably in The Desert. In her own words:
Katara: I will never, EVER turn my back on people who need me!
- Optimus Prime of Transformers is this trope, with Megatron coming in a close second.
- Dinobot from Beast Wars almost never willingly runs from a fight. This reaches its climax in 'Code of Hero', when his insistence on stopping the Predacons from destroying the early humans costs him his life. Depth Charge also fits this trope, as his persistence to find and destroy Rampage leads to him putting that mission above all else, including stopping Megatron from destroying the Autobots and changing the universe as we know it. Really, Depth Charge needs to get his priorities straight.
- By the end of it, he was on board to stop Megatron. Unfortunately, at that time, Rampage was sent out to stop him.
- In Cybertron, Starscream was so much of a Determinator that he managed to use Heroic Resolve in a way that's usually reserved for... well, the heroic. At one point, he took on the combined might of the entire Autobot team to get the Mac Guffin, dragging himself onward no matter how much damage he took, and taking the victory in the end with one well-timed dirty trick (hey, he is Starscream.)
- Actually, this is a pretty regular thing for Starscream. In Transformers Generation One he tried to take over the Decepticons at every possible occasion—even after he died and came back as a ghost.
- And in Transformers Animated Starscream kept trying to kill Megatron after dying normally, becoming effectively immortal, dying many times, becoming a head, and then being killed again.
- Waspinator becomes this in Transformers: Animated, determined to get revenge on Bumblebee, he'll get blown into pieces to get the justice he thinks he deserves.
- Dib of Invader Zim is a Determinator well past the point of insanity, considering Failure Is The Only Option and he's surrounded by Bats. Zim is a similar case, continuing his "mission" even after being exiled due to his entire species loathing his very existence, although there's disagreement as to whether he merely ignores their scorn or he really is that stupid.
- Riley from The Boondocks. He's not a very good fighter, but he's able to take a lot of punishment before going down.
- In the season finale of Justice League Unlimited, with no time to come up with a better plan, Batman keeps on coming after Brainiac-Darkseid with nothing more than his fists, feet, and utility belt, relentless even though the other tosses him away casually. After the last such attempt, irritation is evident.
Brainiac-Darkseid: You still try to fight? *tosses him thirty feet* Can't you see that it's hopeless?
Superman: *gives him a flying punch, then a right hook, and pins Brainiac-Darkseid against the wall by the throat, one-handed* That man won't quit as long as he can still draw breath. None of my teammates will.
- How about Marlin from Finding Nemo? Not exactly a Badass but VERY persistent.
- Not exactly a badass??? What the hell movie were you watching? He was such a Bad Ass Determinator, that the whole ocean was talking about how he took on killer sharks, electrocuting jellyfish, fish eating seagulls, and a fishing boat.
- Considering the fact he stayed locked up in prison for twenty years and, upon escaping, was just as intent on becoming the Dragon Warrior as ever, I'd say Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda qualifies.
- As does Po himself. Even when Shifu does his best to make Po quit, Po never does. While Po is in the middle of rolling down the mountain due to a kick from Shifu, the other student have the following conversation about it.
Tigress: If he's smart, he won't come back up those stairs.
Monkey: But he will.
Snake: He's not going to quit, is he?
- Darla Dimple from Cats Don't Dance, while not physically intimidating, is still a Little Miss Badass who refuses to allow anyone to interfere with her films, to the point of constructing elaborate plans to discredit them, and (almost) suicidal attacks on their shows.
Darla: I didn't get where I am today By letting myself get pushed around! And no man nor beast or kittycat or doggy Is goin' to drag me down!"''
- Captain Clown from Batman The Animated Series, who takes a ridiculous amount of crowbar shots to the head.
Real Life
- Both sides in the American Civil War. In terms of casualty rates on the winning side, history's three bloodiest battles (Chickamauga, Antietam and Gettysburg) were fought during the Civil War. The use of Nineteenth-Century weapons in conjunction with Eighteenth-Century tactics produced more American deaths than the two World Wars combined. It was not uncommon for an entire regiment to be wiped out in a few moments, and one in ten soldiers was maimed in some way. And the war still lasted four years.
- Pretty much any US Soldier who has earned the Congressional Medal of Honor. You can find them all along with a description of the actions that earned them the medal here.
- Victoria Cross
recipients also qualify for the most part - indeed, most recipients of any nation's highest military honour probably do.
- Squirrels that raid birdfeeders. Capsaicin powder in the seed, slinkies on the poles, greased poles, and a hundred other ploys will not keep these Magnificent Bastards from the birdseed for long. It gets really aggravating (although some people derive amusement from the antics). People who want the birds to have a chance have produced the aforementioned contrivances and more. "Sorry, squirrel, this feeder's inaccessib- Oh Crap. Maybe this will work..."
- You can buy birdfeeders that spin and they still hold on for dear life, and try again. You would think they would get the message, considering how smart they supposedly are.
- Pick ANY African-American who's broken the color barrier in any field, be it business, the military, sports, whatever. We're talking real men and women who've taken abuse that would reduce whole platoons of Marines to tears. Case in point, the Navy's First Black Master Diver Carl Brasher, as portrayed in Men Of Honor. Or there's the famous Malcolm X.
- Jack. Roosevelt. Robinson. Nuff said.
- Martin. Luther. King. Who really should've been the trope namer.
- The Little Rock Nine. Made even awesomer by how relatively young they were during their ordeal.
- Nichelle Nichols who played Lt. Uhura in Star Trek. What's the big deal about her you ask?? During her first season on the show, the executives refused to make her a regular cast member, so she was being paid a fifteenth of what everyone else was making. One executive told Gene Roddenberry that he refused to film a scene where Uhura was shown in command of the Enterprise. Oh yeah, and her fan mail was kept from her. It took Martin Luther King himself to convince her to press on.
- In sport, Helio Gracie was an incredible Determinator. One of the founders of Brazilian Jujitsu, in 1955 he had two incredible matches that very much earn his title here. In the first, against Masahiko Kimura, he had two of the bones in his arm broken, and would have kept going, if not for his brother throwing in the towel. In the second, against Valdemar Santana, he fought for 3 hours and 42 minutes, only losing when he collapsed from exhaustion. The second was the longest fight in Mixed Martial Arts history.
- Perhaps only rivalled by Kazushi Sakuraba's epic 90-minute fight with Helio's son, Royce Gracie in the PRIDE FC. Sakuraba is the Determinator here, as shortly after that fight he showed up for the next one, against the 50 lbs heavier, much better rested, and feared striker Igor Vovchanchyn (pretty much his worst nightmare if you would choose one)and went the distance for another 20 minutes - fighting well enough for the match to be considered a draw. His corner decided to throw in the towel at this point before the extra round was on, just as Royce's corner had done earlier.
- Not to be outdone (in what is now considered a classic rivalry), a few months later another Gracie, Renzo, faced off with Sakuraba and refused to submit to an armlock to the point where his elbow was broken - and beyond, until the referee had to stop the match because of the injury. Renzo paid tribute to his opponent after the fight.
- William Wilberforce was determined to see slavery abolished and the character of the British people reformed. And he never faltered, though it took his whole life; he was in the final stages of a terminal illness when Parliament finally voted to outlaw slavery.
- Technically they outlawed the slave trade, but yeah.
- The British Army (which included their Imperial allies, primarily Canadians and Australians) in World War One: Through fire and steel, despite failure after failure to achieve its stated aims, it kept on coming back for more; in the process grinding down the fine edge of the German Army. After the German March 1918 offensive, at which the British Army came within an ace of being scattered and broken, it came back and for the last 100 days of the war, it handed Germany its arse on a plate day after day. The culmination of this Crowning Moment of Awesome was to cut straight through the Hindenburg Line in three days, against defences which made the German positions on the Somme in 1916 look like a joke (that battle lasted four months). That was when the Germans started talking seriously about peace. These days are actually named "Canada's Hundred Days". Look it up.
Canadian soldiers also have gone trough this during World War 2. And Korea.
- When we are talking WWI, remember Serbia. They were being attacked by one of Great Powers, and their closest allies were thousands of miles away. And were practically surrounded by enemies or future enemies. So what do they do. They bitch slap Austria Hungary so hard two times (at that time Balkans was the only front on which Allies were winning), that AH only managed to break them by attacking them with twice as many troops and enlisting the help of Bulgarians to attack them from the rear. Also by that time the Serbian army was running out of ammo. In that kind of situation most of the nations would have surrendered, but Serbs instead opted to stage a fighting retreat towards Montenegro, and then through the frozen Albanian mountains, just to reach Adriatic sea where they were picked up by Allied navy, by which time most of them were walking corpses. After recuperating they again reorganized in Greece and by next year were already cracking heads, and taking fortified mountain ranges. In the end, in 1918, after non Serb/French Allies finally found courage to continue the offensive, Serbs broke the back of Central power armies. They were advancing so quickly they were outrunning Allied cavalry, and were multiple times reprimanded for advancing too quickly because their allies couldn't keep up. The end result is that Sebia in WWI lost 25% of total population, or in other words over 50% of male population.
- The Germans deserve their moment too, possibly even more so, for taking on the British, French and Russians and holding them all to a scoreless draw (until the advent of the US made the war unwinnable for them). But few people today remember what the British army actually achieved. The Kaiser called the British Army of 1914 "That Contemptible little army". They stopped him dead in 1914 and died almost to a man in doing so. The survivors formed the core of the expanded British army which held the line alongside the French for the next 3 years (with help from the dominions, don't forget the ANZA Cs and Indians).
- Charles de Gaulle. Why? Because he was an officer of an army which had completely collapsed; because he saw the blitzkrieg coming and tried to warn French officials and failed to get their attention; because half his country was occupied while the other half was under the control of a puppet state. Because he was raised to believe that the army was some sort of moral elite and saw the role model for the officers of his generation (Petain) smugly committing crimes of high treason; because half the resistance was communist and half of the remaining resistance did not trust him; because Churchill and Roosevelt never really took him seriously. He started with a lot of handicaps, yet still managed to organize the resistance, to recreate from nearly nothing the French army—hundreds of thousands of men strong—and make sure that France, which was supposed to know a fate similar to Austria, was considered to be one of the victors.
- David Ben Gurion. You're in charge of roughly half a million people, almost none of which are professional soldiers. Your enemies outnumber you about 20 to 1, with standing armies and military help, training and weapon supplies from Great Britain. You have almost no guns and not enough money to buy more ammo with. One third of your entire people is just recently gone in the flames of genocide, and you have no major alliances with anyone at this time. What do you? Declare independence and kick the living snot out of seven different countries simultaneously.
- He had a more then a bit of Determinator in him, but he was more like a Chessmaster. However the real credit for being a Determinator belongs to the Hagannah. And beyond that to Israel in general.
- Badass Winston Churchill, who survived any number of setbacks and humiliations (being popularly but falsely regarded as the man behind Gallipoli in WWI) to prevail.
- "Even though large parts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old."
- The Red Army in WWII. The infamous for Russians Order #227 (the establishment of penal battalions) is known as “Not a step back”, because of the lines it contained: “Not a step back! This should be our main credo. Each position, each meter of Soviet territory must be defended to the last drop of blood, each patch of Soviet soil must be clinged to and made a stand for.”
- Again, like the Germans, successful in spite of their government and its military policy.
- One specific example is the Soviet T-34 tank, which developed a similar reputation to Top Gear`s indestructible Toyota Hilux. Designed to be incredibly simple to build, use and maintain, T-34s have still been operational after being used as immobilised military monuments for years, or in an extreme case having been buried in an Estonian bog since the Second World War.
- Joe Simpson, mountaineer and author of the book (and later award-winning documentary film) Touching The Void. After completing an ascent of the west face of Siula Grande in Peru, reaching the 6,344 metre peak, he fell during the descent, his calf bone splitting his knee. Working together with his climbing partner, Simon Yates, they descended - until Simpson fell again, ending up hanging over a crevasse with no way to climb up or anchor himself - and with his body weight slowly pulling Yates after him. After a long time, Yates made the only possible decision - to cut the rope. Simpson, close to hypothermia by this point, fell again and ended up inside the crevasse, unable to climb back out the way he'd fallen; so he climbed down into the crevasse instead, and found a way back out onto the mountain. Then, with no food, water, or painkillers, he worked his way down the mountain - including an unroped crossing of a glacier - over three and a half days, finally arriving back at his Base Camp the night before Yates was planning to leave. He lost a third of his body weight during the ordeal, and he needed multiple operations before he could walk again. Then he started climbing again, and - later - broke his other leg while climbing in the Himalayas. He's now an author and motivational speaker.
- Mountain man Hugh Glass was mauled by a bear and left for dead by his companions. He awoke 200 miles from civilization, with a broken leg, exposed ribs, festering wounds, and no food, water, or weapons. Glass set his leg, wrapped himself in his death shroud, and began trekking through hostile Native American territory. He survived on berries, roots, and carrion, and stove off infection with maggots. After six weeks, he reached the Cheyenne River, fashioned a raft, and floated to civilization. After a long recuperation, he hunted down his two former companions, but chose to spare both of them. He did, however, take his rifle back.
- Another mountain climber, Aron Ralston
, was forced to amputate his own arm with a cheap, dull multi-tool after a rock fell on it and trapped him for five days without food and water. After that he had to rappel down a 65-foot wall and walk for miles until he found help.
- Chris Ryan (pseudonym), the SAS member that during the First Gulf War walked over 200 miles in the Iraqi desert over 8 days with no supplies, evaded detection and capture, survived the weather and even drinking water contaminated with nuclear waste in what is by far "the longest escape and evasion" by any soldier to date.
- Sarah Bernhardt
was the original modern theatre Large Ham, even taking on Large Ham male roles. Nothing could stop her - even being one-legged with almost no mobility could stop her from being an acclaimed actress.
- Rome in the Second Punic War. Every time Hannibal wiped out a Roman army the Romans just shrugged their shoulders and were in the field next year with another one because They Had Reserves. At the end it was the Romans who won.
- The defenders at Masada. Sure, you can call them completely insane, but you have to admire the fact that they wouldn't give the Romans the satisfaction of enslaving them (which for the Romans was the only true victory), and preferred to commit mass suicide before their walls could be breached.
- And given who they were up against (see above) that is more amazing.
- Thermopylae. Because They Were Spartans.
- Byzantium. It endured for 800 years keeping what was left of The Roman Empire against tremendous odds. The City of Constantinople itself endured more then twelve sieges. It preserved much that was worth preserving of ancient lore. Finally it fell wearily in a Last Stand in 1453.
- George Washington. They found bullet holes through the clothes he was wearing in the fighting... Still he lived on to be president!
- On occasion, Israel. I mean... wow. Six Day War. Also, that could be said to be a Crowning Moment of Awesome.
- For those who don't know: after a series of border disputes, essentially the entire goddamn Middle East fought against Israel, primarily Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, but also Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Tunisia, Algeria, Sudan, and Morocco. Israel won handily. In six days.
- That was indeed a CMOA, but it was more like I Know Karate on a large scale than Determinator. A better example would be the Seventh Armored Brigade's defense of the Golon Heights in 1973.
- Not a CMOA any more that operation desert storm was. Israel quite literally held all the aces in that; the US had decided that they could not let them lose. So, it was not "Israel vs the middle east". It was "Israel and one giant superpower vs a bunch of tinpot dictatorships". Come on, Saudi Arabia was still arming it's troops with bolt-action rifles from WW 1. The thing about apparent CMOA's like that is they are always triggered by hold the equivalent of a perfect hand. See operation sicklestroke, operation babarossa and most of the US army's victories. In a side note, Israel declared war. It should probably be compared to the invasion of Poland.
- An uncountable number of boxers belong here, since many will often fight on with broken hands, (and continue to punch with those broken hands) broken noses, ripped muscles, etc. Like Danny Williams, whose right shoulder was dislocated twice in his 2000 bout with Mark Potter. The first time his corner popped it back in between rounds. The second time it came out just 30 seconds into the 6th round. For the next minute and a half, Williams somehow survived while Potter assaulted him, until the right handed Williams knocked Potter out with a single left uppercut. I am ABSOLUTELY NOT making this up
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- Among boxing fans, the Trope Codifier here is probably Joe Frazier, who simply did not know how to fight going anyway but forward, no matter who he was fighting or how. His heart was absolutely second to none and this is probably best exemplified in his most overwhelming loss against George Foreman. Facing a man who was the worst possible matchup for him (bigger, taller, stronger, harder punching, and with an iron chin), Frazier refused to back down despite getting pummeled from post to post and suffering 6 knockdowns in 2 rounds (the first of which was the famous "Down goes Frazier!!" call). Each time, Frazier got up and kept going back for more, noticeably looking more angry than anything when his corner waved off the fight. Even after his epic third fight with Ali, an old, worn down Frazier wanted nothing more than a chance to redeem himself against Foreman, a fight no one thought he could win. Frazier lost in 5 rounds, but he went out in trademark fashion, going forward no matter what the cost and swinging the entire time.
- The British 400 metre runner Derek Redmond has to be mentioned here. 250 metres into his semi final at the Barcelona Olympics his hamstring snapped. But would he give up? Hell no. He hobbled in absolute agony for a few more metres and collapsed on the ground only to pick himself up and continue. Eventually his father Jim barged past the security and supported him as he moved down the track. Together they hobbled the last 100 metres and finished the race. One of the most gutsy things you will ever see and probably counts as both a Tear Jerker and Crowning Momentof Awesome.
- This woman
, who finally passed her driving exam... on her 950th attempt. To make matters worse, it was only the written portion of the test. She hadn't even gotten to the actual driving yet. One can only imagine what will happen when she gets behind the wheel.
- Max the Cat
who wasn't going to let a little thing like a raging typhoon get between him and his litterbox.
- Notorious Depression-era bank robber George "Baby Face" Nelson, who was cornered by a couple of FBI agents wielding a shotgun and a Tommy gun. Instead of retreating, Nelson advanced on them across an open field, emptying his bolt-action rifle into them as he went, and being hit nine times. The G-men died at the scene. Nelson got back into his car and drove off, dying several hours later.
- And finally, you. As long as you make it clear you will never give up, your Heroic Resolve won't let you down. Here's a motivational poster
◊ for inspiration. Now go get 'em.
- As described in the documentary, The Fog of War, Robert MacNamara said he only learned how determined the North Vietnamese were to win during The Vietnam War when he met a major Vietnamese leader of that war. In their conversation, he mentioned how the US won most the battles, but the Vietnamese leader noted that they were prepared to accept many, many more losses in that war as a price for victory.
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