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Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism

The optimist sees a light at the end of the tunnel,
the realist sees a train entering the tunnel,
the pessimist sees a train speeding at him, hell for leather,
and the machinist sees three idiots sitting on the tracks.

Which best solves problems? The Power of Friendship, or a bullet between the eyes?

The answer depends on where the series falls in the Sliding Scale Of Idealism Versus Cynicism.

A story can be idealistic or cynical towards any idea. In general, if the story values or is hopeful for a particular ideal, then it is idealistic. If the story criticizes, assaults, and accentuates the negative about that expectation, then it is cynical.

For a simple, archetypal example, let's assume that the idea to believe in is Humans Are Good/Rousseau Was Right. In idealistic series, those who believed it got lots of friends and a Happy Ending (therefore, Right Makes Might), while cynical series are Crapsack Worlds where those who believed it got ruthlessly bullied by everyone else (therefore, Might Makes Right). Of course, the definitions of "Right" and "Crapsack" in the above can technically mean whatever one wants them to mean.

However, be careful not to confuse idealism with straw optimism, cynicism with straw pessimism, and the scale as a whole with the Sliding Scale of Silliness Versus Seriousness. Also note that when this applies to characters, this does not mean good or evil. After all, it's perfectly possible for an idealist to be evil, and a cynic to be good. Likewise, a very cynical series could be quite lighthearted (see also: Crapsaccharine World), conversely a very idealistic series could be extremely dark. It's also true that comedies can be cynical as all hell (see also: Satire), and dark dramas can end idealistic (see also: A World Half Full).

See also: The Idealist and The Cynic for the archetypal characters. For how both sides often portray each other, see Wide-Eyed Idealist/Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids!, and Grumpy Bear/Silly Rabbit, Cynicism Is for Losers!. See Cynicism Tropes, and Idealism Tropes for lists of each.

This particular sliding scale can be the topic of fierce debate. Each person will have a different point which they tend towards. Therefore, this scale is most useful in targeting demographics and those who are sympathetic to a certain world view, and identifying where on the spectrum one's own work is.

Cerebus Syndrome describes a shift from comedy to drama and this often also results in a shift from idealism to cynicism. Reverse Cerebus Syndrome is the inversion. When shows Zig Zag between the two, they're on a Cerebus Roller Coaster.


Examples


Sir Verb A LotKnight In Shining TropesSmall Steps Hero
Shout-OutPt/Índice de TraduçãoSo Bad, It's Good
Sliding Scale of Anti-VillainsMorality TropesEarn Your Happy Ending
Sliding Scale of Gender InequalitySorting Algorithm of TropesSliding Scale of Law Enforcement
Shout-OutJustForFun/Tropes of LegendSmug Snake
Seldom Seen SpeciesCyclic TropeNineties Anti-Hero
Sliding Scale of Free Will vs. FateLaws and FormulasSliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction
Silence Is GoldenImageSource/Comic StripsViewers Are Morons
Sleazy PoliticianAdministrivia/No Real Life Examples, Please!Small Name, Big Ego

alternative title(s): Sliding Scale Of Idealism Vs Cynicism; Sliding Scale Of Idealism Vs Realism; Idealism Vs Cynicism; Sliding Scale Of Cynicism Versus Idealism; Sliding Scale Of Cynicism Vs Idealism
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