Character pages are a large chunk of the wiki, but they're often filled with problems that don't get resolved. These problems include:
- Zero Context Examples
- Indentation problems, including bulleting tropes under supertropes or tropeslashing
- Spoiler tag misuse
- A lack of alphabetization
- Empty character folders
- Plagiarized character descriptions
- Misused tropes, or tropes that don't belong on character pages
- Broken or incorrect formatting
- Subjective / Trivia trope mentions
Per How to Create a Character Page, character pages should only include tropes that describe the characters. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, Unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask about that at Are These Character Tropes.
All characters must have at least one contextualized trope for their section or folder to be visible. If you find a character that has no contextualized tropes present, comment out the entire section and add this tag:
Other relevant threads:
- Problems with pre-existing images on Characters page need to go via Image Pickin'. Low quality images can usually be upgraded without discussion, but don't change or delete images without Image Pickin' approval.
- Character Specific Pages have their own separate cleanup thread
- Self-demonstrating character pages also have their own thread.
- Inanimate objects and locations on character pages have their own cleanup thread
- Character pages for Reality Show contestants are on-topic here, but there's also a dedicated Reality Show cleanup thread which deals with the No Real Life Examples, Please! grey areas these shows create, and may sometimes be a better place to discuss them.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 26th 2024 at 6:20:01 PM
Nice. Thank you!
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢Should It (2017) be split? Pennywise and the Losers Club both surpass the 40k byte limit.
SKREEEEEEEONK!I need help with character page of American Horror Story: Roanoke because there's a ton of misuse example of Character Death. I'll delete a few of them.
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”I believe that examples of Character Death are actually allowed off-page if there’s no other death trope that fits better, so those examples should be restored. The example for Matt would fit better under Bludgeoned to Death, though. Furthermore, death tropes are plot tropes rather than character tropes, so they should actually be on the character page in the first place.
Edited by jandn2014 on Aug 20th 2021 at 10:07:19 AM
back lolOh, sorry. I already deleted a few because some people said this trope is more of a plot trope not characterization trope and it's a spoiler trope as well. Edit: Welp, I got .
Edited by Bubblepig on Aug 20th 2021 at 7:08:16 AM
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”I mean, "it's not a character trope" is certainly a point that could be made, but that would mean it gets moved, off the character page and onto the main page. Not just zapped.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.I was browsing the character pages for The Amazing World of Gumball and I noticed that the folder for the detention kids on Characters.The Amazing World Of Gumball Students Of Elmore Junior High was a bit of a mess. Thought I should post my reasoning here and gather consensus on what to do instead of leaving a wall of text as an edit reason:
- Voiced by Hugo Harold-Harrison (Julius), Kerry Shale (Reaper, "The Sucker"), Alex Jordan (Scythe, "The Sucker"), Simon Lipkin (Mowdown, "The Sucker"), Naomi McDonald (rotten cupcake, "The Weirdo" onward)Debut: Season 2, "The Lesson"Last appearance: Season 6, "The Sucker" (Reaper), "The Potion" (Rotten Cupcake), "The Inquisition" (Mowdown, Julius, Scythe)
A group of students at Elmore Junior High introduced as regulars in detention hall in "The Lesson", then shown sporadically elsewhere. Includes Julius Oppenheimer Jr.(a black-and-white 1920s cartoon character with a bomb for a head who is the leader of the group), Reaper (a tattooed human hand), Scythe (a rat in a hoodie), Philip/Mowdown (a giant teddy bear), and a rotten cupcake.
- Accessory-Wearing Cartoon Animal: The Rotten Cupcake has boots and gloves. Pretty sure Accessory-Wearing Cartoon Animal doesn't cover food.
- Action Bomb: Julius has a bomb for a head. Making him mad causes him to explode, incapacitating him while reducing his head to a much smaller size. Hmm. Maybe move to Your Head Asplode? His head exploding isn't intentional on his part, that's how Gumball and Darwin used him to break out of detention.
- Ambiguous Gender: The cupcake has been identified as both male and female. It's possible he/she is gender non-conforming. Keep?
- Ambiguously Gay: Scythe and Rotten Cupcake are a couple, despite the latter previously identifying as male. Hmm. If the Rotten Cupcake was identified as female in the same episode where it's revealed they're dating Scythe, then it isn't gay because they aren't the same gender anymore. On the other hand, the Rotten Cupcake is in the boys bathroom after this episode, so IDK.
- Animated Tattoo: Reaper is a hand which has a tattoo of a skull wearing a crown, which acts as his face, being capable of moving around and talking.
- Animate Inanimate Object: Reaper is a hand, and Phillip/Mowdown is a stuffed teddy bear. Julius may be this (a bomb for a head) or a Cartoon Creature (a humanoid body). Reaper is more of a Cartoon Creature than an Animate Inanimate Object. Mowdown better fits Killer Teddy Bear, not sure about Julius, but he might fit under Cartoon Creature.
- Anthropomorphic Food: One is a (rotten) cupcake.
- Barbaric Bully: They look more like prison inmates than middle school students, and most of their appearances have them beating or intimidating other students. In "The Pact", Julius, Cupcake, and Phillip were willing to kill Gumball and rip his head off. Keep, but get rid of Bold Inflation.
- Bears Are Bad News: Don't let Philip's cute appearance fool you. He is the opposite of a cute, huggable teddy bear. Move to Killer Teddy Bear.
- Captain Ersatz: Philip Mowdown's appearance is based on Care Bears, being pink like Cheer Bear, and the heart on his T-shirt is based on Tenderheart Bear.
- Cartoon Creature: Julius may be this (he has a humanoid body). Reaper may be the hand of one. Examples Are Not Arguable. "Reaper might also be the hand of one" feels speculative.
- A Day in the Limelight: Julius gets one in:
- "The Lesson," where he, along with Gumball and Darwin, try to break out of detention.
- "The Sucker," where he tries to mess with Darwin — only for it to backfire on himself.
- Dude Looks Like a Lady: The cupcake guy's pink coloration, mouth that looks like it has lipstick on it, and heeled boots cause Darwin and Gumball to mistake him for a (very ugly) girl. From "The Potion" onward, though, the character actually is female. Maybe get rid of the retcon because they went back to being male in later episodes, or maybe say that this example is zig-zagged.
- Fully-Dressed Cartoon Animal: Julius and Scythe. Phillip/Mowdown also wears a shirt, and the rotten cupcakes wrapper may count as clothing. Julius and the rotten cupcake aren't animals, Julius doesn't wear a shirt (to the best of my knowledge), and "the wrapper might count as clothing" violates Examples Are Not Arguable. I'm pretty sure it would be misuse anyway.
- Funny Animal: Scythe is a rat. Better fits You Dirty Rat!.
- Gender Flip: The Rotten Cupcake had to state he's a boy in "The Lesson" despite his appearance, but in "The Potion" she's a female (and implied to be Scythe's girlfriend). He gained a screechy female voice in "The Weirdo", but was seen in the boys' bathroom in "The Nuisance" which came after.
- Helping Hands: Reaper is a giant human hand and wrist covered in tattoos, one of which acts as his face.
- Gang of Bullies: They pick on and mug other students when they aren't fighting among themselves in detention.
- Jerkass: All of them. Aside from being a ZCE, it's already covered by Gang of Bullies.
- Killer Teddy Bear: Philip is a giant pink teddy bear who comes off as harmless at first until he squeezes Gumball's head and pops the cupcake guy's cherry. His body even plays as recording (of a different voice) that says "I love you" when you hit him.
- Meaningful Name: Julius is a living bomb, and his full name is Julius Oppenheimer, Jr., a reference to Julius Robert Oppenheimer, who helped develop the world's first atomic bomb. His first name itself, Julius, could also be a reference to the character Julius the Cat from Disney's Alice Comedies, considering the shorts are old rubberhose cartoons, just like the style Julius himself is inspired by. Move to Named After Someone Famous?
- Names to Run Away from Really Fast: Reaper.
- No Name Given: None are ever referred to by name until "The Sucker", over three seasons after their introduction. Even after then, Reaper and Scythe only gave nicknames, while the cupcake doesn't even have that. In relation to surnames, only Julius' is known.
- Non-Human Head: Julius has a cartoon bomb for a head, which is capable of exploding.
- Pet the Dog: Julius genuinely cares about his parents, and feels bad if they’re disappointed in him. He also seems to become friends with Darwin at the end of "The Sucker". Hmm. The part about Julius's parents could be moved to Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas, and the part about him being friends with Darwin could be moved to Reformed Bully. Thing is, Julius's parents are only briefly mentioned in "The Sucker", and they're never seen or brought up again after that. Julius being a Reformed Bully also doesn't stick because he goes back to being a Jerkass after that. That could just be a timeline thing/continuity error, but that feels speculative. Point is, I'm not sure if tropes like Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas are supposed to be a recurring thing or if they can still count if they're only briefly mentioned.
- Theme Naming: "Reaper", "Scythe", and "Mowdown" are just supposed to be generic scary nicknames, but Darwin points out they have an unintended agricultural theme.
- Twitchy Eye: Scythe has one.
- Vague Age: They're at most a grade older than Darwin or Gumball, but mostly seem like they're well into their teens or even adults. It's possible some of them have been held back a lot. Scythe was also seen driving a car in "The News". While the exact ages of the detention kids are never stated, they're definitely teenagers. They're classified as young offenders in "The Lesson" and Julius describes them as "older kids who have a reputation for being mean and manipulative" in "The Sucker".
- Suddenly Voiced: Philip and Scythe were silent for three seasons after being introduced, then spoke in "The Weirdo" to heckle Sussie. Scythe, Mowdown, and Reaper's voice changed in their appearances in “The Sucker”.
- White Gloves: Julius wears these, as part of his retro design.
- Would Hit a Girl: Mowdown, who is brown in this episode, fights with Alison in “The Roots”, and she wins despite him being strong. Pretty sure this can be removed. The Gumball wiki lists Mowdown and the brown bear as separate characters.
- You Dirty Rat!: Scythe is a rat with a facial scar that always wears a hoodie.
Edited by RainbowPumpqueen on Aug 25th 2021 at 1:31:36 AM
Sandbox help wanted.Turbo — for what's supposedly an expensive Dreamworks blockbuster, the character page does have tons of ZCE and empty folders. Salvageable?
~Berrenta: I think we're gonna need a mod revert on Characters.Harry Potter Severus Snape to this edit. A user by the name of Warminadore has been vandalizing the page, removing pretty much anything positive in order to bash him alongside having terrible grammar and formatting (as detailed in this ATT). They've made so many edits that manual reversion is near impossible, and the only edits since they've started (besides them) have either been correcting their mistakes, small grammar fixes, and a deletion of Reality Ensues that can easily be redone after the revert.
I'll send in a suspension and revert. Thanks for alerting me.
Edit: Reverted to the edit you linked. Cleanup will be needed.
Edited by Berrenta on Aug 27th 2021 at 2:52:09 PM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportWe're gonna need some cleanup on multiple pages - Harry's, Ron's, Hermione's, and Slytherin's. They are very clearly fans of Harry and Ron and don't like Hermione very much, and while their edits for Slytherin aren't necessarily inaccurate they're still riddled with grammar errors - I'd love to mod revert, but all of them have valid edits sprinkled in the middle.
These unindexed pages
- GovernmentAndCivillians.My Hero Academia Entropy [sic]
- OtherVillains.My Hero Academia Entropy
- ProHeroesandStudents.My Hero Academia Entropy
- TheSyndicate.My Hero Academia Entropy
look like character page offshoots and should be moved out of those namespaces.
Namespace notifier sent.
Do we have a Harry Potter cleanup thread? If not, now's a good time to make one.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportEDIT: Nvm. I already re-arranged the character page because I didn't see any harm in doing so.
Edited by RainbowPumpqueen on Sep 9th 2021 at 11:46:15 PM
Sandbox help wanted.Curious Cuisine needs a look. We got tropeless entries, some "See this other section", and a ton of ZCE's.
Afternoon edit: The Wizard in the Shadows ha ZCE's and other example-writing violations.
Edited by Berrenta on Sep 6th 2021 at 5:08:14 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportI noticed that Ortael went through with revamping Magical Girl Raising Project to having everyone on one page instead of being divided. I don't have a particular preference on how it's organized, but I did split it because I figured having 100+ characters on one page was a little much, even if they can all fit. Does the wiki have a policy on this, or do we just go by whatever the consensus is?
Either way, the Recurring section is a good idea that should stay.
Your preferences are not everyone else's preferences.My apologies, I did not mean to undermine your hard work. I did try to ask about this before, but got no response. Probably should have tried again instead of barreling on ahead.
My reasoning was that some of the character folders do not have many tropes or are semi-nonspoilery duplicates for characters who already have an entry. There is also the fact that apparently Breakdown only has four or five characters, so its subpage was very small comparatively speaking.
That is just me though. I am certainly open to suggestions.
(Typing this on my phone, the formal language is to avoid broken code.)
~ ♪ I know I’m playing with your heart / And I could treat you better but I’m not that smart ♪ ~Speaking of, I had the same question for a while. If a work has Loads And Loads Of Characters that fall into specific groups / factions, but not nearly too long for Overly Long Pages (needs 500000 symbols), would a Characters page look better with a hard split or just scrolling down is enough?
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI can see the argument that Black and Breakdown are too small for now to have their own pages, though ideally they'd pick up enough tropes over time to fix that issue. Breakdown has another dozen characters that could be added, but they just haven't yet.
I didn't want to go through with deleting the duplicate entries myself, but I also don't particularly see the point of them existing when they're just going to link back to their main entries.
Also, should the first arc be referred to as Unmarked? It's what the fandom calls it yes, but I've never seen it be used officially anywhere.
Your preferences are not everyone else's preferences.If there's no official name/term for something, we can just go with whatever works.
Ah, that makes more sense. I've only been reading the official translation which hasn't caught up to that arc yet.
I don't either, to be honest. I haven't deleted them myself 'cause I figured they might be helpful to readers. I think I'll go ahead and delete them.
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen it be called that officially either. Completely forgot it was a fan made term.
In that case, I think I'll let the term stay as is. There's a note on the work's main description that the first arc is usually called "Unmarked" anyway. Hopefully, it won't be too confusing to newcomers.
Edited by Oratel on May 5th 2024 at 4:25:09 AM
~ ♪ I know I’m playing with your heart / And I could treat you better but I’m not that smart ♪ ~So how do we want the actual page organized? I still think it's better off with the page split into their arcs, with the main page having the recurring and side story exclusive characters.
Your preferences are not everyone else's preferences.Agreed. I'll get on that at some point today.
~ ♪ I know I’m playing with your heart / And I could treat you better but I’m not that smart ♪ ~I have a question on the Arrowverse pages is there a way that we can not list every page in the index of every page? Can we do what we do with the MCU ones just link them to pages on the same group line like say, only Star City would only link on Star City groups or characters. It would save some time when ever a new page is made.
Edited by Bullman on Sep 13th 2021 at 4:01:02 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Done. Characters.The Blueballs Incident and Characters.Wii Funkin were the only mods that still needed to be indexed, but Characters.Friday Night Funkin Logic (a Web Animation) wasn’t indexed either, so I did that as well.
back lol