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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#1: Aug 9th 2023 at 11:10:32 PM

To-do list:

  • The Hero's Birthday was renamed to Birthday Beginning because the trope supposed to be used for works that start on the protagonist's birthday, but it tends to get used for any time the protagonist has a birthday (with some even stating that the work doesn't start on the protagonist's birthday). Remove misuse and move correct examples to the new name.
    • Clean up on-page examples.
    • Clean up wicks.

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Note: This thread was proposed by idonom.

The Hero's Birthday is supposed to be used for works that start on the protagonist's birthday, but it tends to get used for any time the protagonist has a birthday (with some even stating that the work doesn't start on the protagonist's birthday). Of the 50 wicks I checked, here's what I found:

  • 36% were used correctly
  • 34% were used for works that don't start on the birthday
  • 20% had no indication that the birthday is at the start of the work
  • 4% had some other misuse
  • 6% fell under multiple categories (or don't count)

So, a grand total of 58% of the wicks were misused or ZCEs. To fix this, I'd personally rename the trope to Birthday Beginning or something similar, since I'm pretty sure the ambiguous name of the trope is the main issue here. Additionally, I'd also disambiguate the page between the renamed trope and tropes such as Birthday Episode, since it seems to be getting confused for that a lot (especially in the recap namespace).

Wick check:

The Hero's Birthday is frequently misused for any instance of the hero celebrating a birthday, regardless of whether or not it's actually at the start of the work.

Wicks Checked: 50/50

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    Used correctly (18) 

    Work doesn't start on the birthday (17) 

    Entry with no indication that the birthday takes place at the start of the work (10) 

    Other Misuse (2) 

    Miscellaneous (3) 
  • BreakingBad.TropesEToL - First part is correct usage (says the work starts on the protagonist's birthday), second part is misuse (says the work ends on the protagonist's birthday).
  • Creator.AndrewHussie - Part of what seems to be a quotesource(?) section.
  • Manga.YuGiOhOCGStories - First part is correct usage (says the work starts on the protagonist's birthday), second part is misuse (says a birthday occurs in the middle of the work).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 19th 2023 at 2:55:54 PM

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#2: Aug 9th 2023 at 11:10:51 PM

Paging ~idonom to the thread. Anyway, I agree with renaming. Birthday Beginning might work, especially since it's alliterative without sounding forced.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 9th 2023 at 1:11:34 PM

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#7: Aug 9th 2023 at 11:58:31 PM

[tup]to renaming, with Birthday Beginning having my vote.

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#10: Aug 10th 2023 at 12:42:56 AM

Rename. Possible renames: Birthday Opening, Birthday Beginning, Opens on the Hero's Birthday

Edited by BackAlleyGuy on Aug 10th 2023 at 9:44:32 PM

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#15: Aug 10th 2023 at 8:14:01 AM

I support renaming it to Birthday Beginning. Looking at it, I wrote a story some time ago that would actually fall into this trope. I just didn't know because of the name.

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#16: Aug 10th 2023 at 8:22:25 AM

Birthday Beginning [tup]

Edited by StalkerGamer on Aug 10th 2023 at 12:22:36 PM

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#17: Aug 11th 2023 at 12:24:28 PM

Beginning Birthday is also a possibility.

[down]The idea is that a birthday begins things.

[down][down]That's also a good idea.

Edited by randomtroper89 on Aug 11th 2023 at 10:42:55 AM

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#18: Aug 11th 2023 at 12:30:27 PM

I think Birthday Beginning flows better, and is more accurate in conveying the intended meaning than Beginning Birthday.

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#21: Aug 14th 2023 at 11:49:30 PM

Only renaming has been suggested with multiple options given. Since it's been 5 days, is it time to just crowner this?

Edited by amathieu13 on Aug 14th 2023 at 2:49:49 PM

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#22: Aug 15th 2023 at 12:21:30 AM

Thread seems unanimously support the rename so alt title crowner hooked.

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#23: Aug 19th 2023 at 7:25:55 AM

Calling crowner in favor of Birthday Beginning. The description looked fine to me so I went ahead and the move.

There's 186 wicks to go through so this shouldn't take long.

Edited by MacronNotes on Aug 19th 2023 at 10:26:55 AM

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#24: Aug 19th 2023 at 6:51:44 PM

The wicks have been cleaned and I cleared out the misuse that was on the page. Locking as resolved.

Edited by MacronNotes on Aug 19th 2023 at 9:56:28 AM

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Trope Repair Shop: The Hero's Birthday Alt Titles
15th Aug '23 12:17:18 AM

Crown Description:

The Heros Birthday is suffering from misuse and the misleading name might be contributing to this problem. What should the trope's new name be?

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