The Scrappy Cleanup

Seems like a single character.

I haven't played the game, but I seem to recall from the trailers that Chupacabras are a group of monsters.

Not an individual, hated for gameplay not character reasons, cutting.

From YMMV.Bloons Tower Defense

• The Scrappy: Quincy in 6. While he's a fairly useful hero, a lot of people hate him for his loud and obnoxious lines, which while the other heroes have this, not nearly to the extent of Quincy.

It's true that his voice lines are considered to be annoying and often criticized, but other than that he is considered to be one of the most powerful heroes in the game, which makes him very popular. He is already mentioned under Most Annoying Sound, which I think makes this entry redundant since it doesn't give any other reasons why he would be hated.

Found this on Mobile Suit Victory Gundam:

• Katejina, for what she later become. For some, so does Shakti.
  • Love to Hate: ...on the other hand, Katejina is also one of the most memorable Gundam villains because of her evilness, and has quite a few fans in Japan and on 4chan's /m/ board.
• Chronicle has gotten his fair share of hate for being one of the more incompetent yet smug Char Clones in the franchise.

Putting a trope on a sub-bullet is illegal indentation, especially one that's arguing against her being The Scrappy. It's also lacking in context. The bit about Shakti also sounds like misuse due to saying "for some", which suggests that the majority of fans don't actually hate her that much. Chronicle might be OK.

Edited by Zuxtron on Jul 24th 2018 at 3:57:10 PM

The Chronicle entry only says he got his "fair share of hate." The Scrappy requires much more than just a "fair share of hate."

Someone put Mishima on the scrappy page for the Shin Megami Tensei page. I removed it since Mishima has been discussed already and isn't an example. The other entrees need evaluation though. The one for Dachi definitely needs to go, he's a Base-Breaking Character for sure.

• Among the Confidants from Persona 5, Ichiko Oya is disliked for having one of the weaker backstories, for being The Alcoholic, and for having the least useful Confidant skills. Her cute design, insistence on uncovering the truth and her Confidant having Lala Escargot as a supporting character are generally cited as her only positive qualities. It is extremely noteworthy that she came in last place in the Confidant popularity poll from the Persona 5 Maniax User Handbook with only two people voting for her.
  • The Camp Gay NPC duo that the player encounters in Shinjuku and the beach. While the jokes about Kanji's sexuality in Persona 4 were polarizing, many players disliked the pair for being unfunny stereotypes, especially in their beach scene. Due to Atlus' previous experiences with non-stereotypical LGBT portrayal (Kanji and Persona 2's Jun, an openly gay party member who was also a romance option), the pair come across as a glaring step back. To make matters worse, they are implied to be attracted to minors.
• Yuzu of Devil Survivor gets a lot of flack for being The Chick, The Watson, and The Complainer rolled into one pink-wrapped package. Despite dealing with tons of cutie-breaking horrors packed into a single week, she's bashed for being weak, whiny, and wanting to return to her normal life. The fact that she could pass for another MegaTen Scrappy doesn't help. Nor does the fact that her entire world seems geared against her, to the point that her ending path is the worst of the lot. Of course, the fact that the heroes are warned repeatedly that running away is a bad idea and she chooses to do so anyway despite knowing that the lockdown was meant to keep demons from invading the world, which they end up causing to happen when they go ahead and choose to break the lockdown are probably not points in her favor. Before the player has gotten anywhere near any of that, however, she's likely to earn their undying hate for the e-mails she sends you - they're written entirely in chatspeak.
  • Then there's Midori, who ironically has the opposite problem. Where Yuzu wants to refuse the call, Midori leaps at it, turning into a Cosplay Otaku Girl version of Leeroy Jenkins with a death grip on the Idiot Ball. While she can get better, her In the Name of the Moon speeches might as well be a Magical Girl version of "P-p-p-p-puppy power!"
    • With the release of Overclocked, her hatedom has skyrocketed, mainly due to her voice actor being ridiculously shrill and annoying. Ironically, this is in fact the perfect voice for her, given her personality...
  • Devil Survivor 2 has Daichi, who, while he does get some badass points and can be a damn good physical attacker with great speed, is still a scrappy for being a male Yuzu expy (he whines even MORE than she did and sometimes has even less excuse). Ironically, the actual female character who takes Yuzu's role in a gameplay sense is rather liked.
    • Ronaldo manages to garner more hate than Daichi ever will. Mainly because he's a law character for one despite the numerous acts coming off as more chaotic. He comes off as a huge hypocrite in comparison to his "evil" counterpart Yamato who flip flops about his alignment whenever it benefits him such as one moment he says he's willing to save everyone but then the next moment leave JP members to be killed by demons because they side with Yamato. On the sixth day he attempts to shoot fan favorite Makoto which can be prevented which also shows more hypocrisy since he doesn't view Makoto as someone worthy of saving in his world. Finally when you decide to join either Yamato or the Anguished One, he flips out on you for not choosing his side. In Yamato's route he tries to kill Yamato after you defeat him fair and square resulting in Yamato retaliating in self defense and sending him off the ledge. This is compared to if you fight Yamato on his path and Yamato's final moments is saving the MC. When he approaches you in the Anguished One's path, he tells you no hard feelings but then flips his shit when you beat him and tries to kill Anguished One thus getting killed for attempting to fight a God. For claiming everyone is equal, he doesn't treat many characters as equal when it's convenient to him.

Yuzu was listed as a Base-Breaking Character.

Never mind.

Edited by Karxrida on Jul 26th 2018 at 4:53:13 AM

Found this on The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Golden Films) of all things:

• Melody's instruments are hated because of their jokes, useless dialog and overtaking on the film. This article discusses it. Other characters, like the bats and the baron, are this to a lesser extent.

On the Victory Gundam one, Katejina is a Hate Sink she was made so evil that the show runner Kill Em All Tomino thought death was too soft and living was more of a punishment.

Don't know if it's relevant, but that's not actually true. See the entry in God Never Said That.

Edited by TheMountainKing on Jul 31st 2018 at 11:58:38 AM

YMMV.Super Smash Bros Brawl has an entry for the Original Generation mooks. All of them. And it just talks about how they're forgettable. The entry should probably be deleted since groups cannot qualify, plus it seems to be reaching anyway.

Edited by Karxrida on Aug 1st 2018 at 12:32:11 PM

Yeah, cut that entry. Reads like someone complaining.

From YMMV/Injustice.

Scorpion is listed as Base-Breaking Character. Which trope is he?

Regime Nightwing is hated for villainous actions. The game never pretends he is a hero. He is called out by Green Arrow and disowned by Batman in the game. I don't think he is supposed to be liked.

Not familiar enough with the comic to comment on Nightwing, but Scorpion is absolutely a Base-Breaking Character.

Zapped both. BBC and failed to explain why it's unintentional.

TheScrappy.Other Media:

• While most of the fandom despises the ponies from Chatoyance's version of The Conversion Bureau, they reserve most of their hate for the human PER operatives Michaelson and Morely of the eponymous story for being Designated Heroes.
  • Charoyance's "Celestia" is also disliked for getting away with genocide as well as the blatant favoritism by the author (to near Author Avatar levels).
• While most of the original characters from My Brave Pony: Starfleet Magic are detested, Rhymey is the least liked out of all of them, mostly because his constant bad rhyming, as well as it being his one character trait. There's a reason why a common Catchphrase among riffers is "SHUT THE F*CK UP RHYMEY". It doesn't help that he ends up being paired with Fluttershy.
  • From the first season, Inquirius was this due to her "asking in questions" gimmick being her one character trait. She doesn't get it as badly as others, because she's barely used and said to have retired.
  • Grand Ruler Celesto gets this as well due to barely pitching in unless the plot calls for it, not to mention his Moral Event Horizon in season 2 which involved making Twilight Sparkle think she was responsible for a family getting seriously hurt, all just to teach her a lesson.
  • In terms of canon characters (which in and of themselves are heavily neutered), Celestia (yet again) gets the worst of it for essentially being reduced to a female Celesto. And then there's the aftermath of Twilight Sparkle's death, wherein Celestia (along with the rest of Starfleet) blames her for her own death even though she was trying to save her. Even Ensemble Dark Horse Brass Bolt is disappointed in the new Celestia.
  • Goldwin is one because of his general uselessness to the main, overarching plot and for being little more than an excuse to plagiarize Today's Special. Some have even argued that he's worse than Rhymey.
  • Both versions of Mykan Stevens get this treatment. Human Mykan gets it for basically being a Marty Stu with enough intelligence to work for NASA as a teenager, and Pony Mykan is one because of his Ungrateful Bastard Stop Helping Me tendencies, pretty much mimicking the author himself.
• Friendship is Failure (also written by Dakari-King Mykan) has enough examples to warrant its own page.

It says that "The Scrappy primarily refers to a character who is hated or disliked within their own fandom". If the hate if from those who revile the work, do they not count? Or do they have to be hated by those who otherwise like the work to count?

Also, Scorrpion and Batman are in the Creator's Pet section. I'm gonna delete them.

If the character is hated by people who hate the work, it's not an example. It's just Complaining About Shows You Don't Like.

So should I cut TheScrappy.Friendship Is Failure?

No I don't think you should

Also from what I understand Rhymy is hated by fans of Starfleet magic so having him listed as the scrappy is probably okay.

What about the example I've posted?

Edited by MasterJoseph on Aug 3rd 2018 at 5:34:42 AM

It has (non-ironic) fans? And why not delete TheScrappy.Friendship Is Failure?

The "lesser extent" is ZCE so cut those. Why do you think the instruments might not count?

YMMV.Dropkick On My Devil:

• The Scrappy: Jashin herself. She's annoying, egotistical, and often acts like a Jerkass.

I see nothing suggesting it's unintentional, any objections to cutting?

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Aug 3rd 2018 at 8:54:08 AM