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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
In the book "In the Face of Danger" (published in 1988, takes place in 1860 in Kansas), a 12-year-old girl likes Moby-Dick so much that she names two puppies Moby and Dick. Would the latter be an example of Have a Gay Old Time?
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I don't think so; Dick attracts its fair share of jokes but it is still well-known as a (nick)name today.
I recently wick checked For Want Of A Nail. It fits under the current definition...
Can I please get a answers to these?
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=1119#comment-27954
You don't need to discuss the 'poor reception'. Just describe the style.
Braids From S286 Not Included
Reposting my question from the last page here.
[[Willy's Chocolate Experience The Unknown]
(she/her)
^^ If the nature of the relationship is want clearly shown screen, I don't know if there's enough information for it to count.
^ The example can be both Celeb Crush and Broken Pedestal at the same time.
I think if you want to move it to Broken Pedestal, the example needs more context on how/why Jane looked up to Avelino although I could be wrong.
I can't answer the second part because you didn't give any details on how Questionable Consent was used in the work.
EDIT: Saw the ATT thread but as stated by War Jay in the comments, statutory rape isn't the same as Questionable Consent. For to be QC, consent has to be unclear and if he clearly sexually assaulted her then consent was unambiguously not given.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 11th 2023 at 5:16:39 AM
Macron's notes
he/him
Retronym seems to include works which acquired post-release subtitles for disambiguation reasons.
Looking at Marvel Comics' Silk, over the last decade all five of her solo comic series have been simply Silk when originally published episodically - but four of the five later acquired subtitles for collected editions (each of which cover a whole Silk series and only that particular series).
That feels like a valid example (and, if so, presumably this applies for other comics that do the same thing - as long as there's a match between the content of the original episodic work and its collected edition). One similar example, for the first series in the Sin City setting, is already listed on the page.
Does that sound right?
One caveat - as with most of Marvel's back catalogue, the individual issues are still on sale in digital formats (as well as in the collections), and those online issues have never been updated and still have the original Silk title, without the subtitlenote .
Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 11th 2023 at 11:37:49 AM
I think that's a valid example of Retronym
If the difference in intelligence is marginal, then I would leave it off.
Don't really have opinions on ^ (don't want to watch more videos than I have to lol) and ^^^, sorry.
Edited by Synchronicity on Jun 11th 2023 at 11:48:29 AM
It doesn't look like resignation to me, so I'd say no.
As long as everything goes well, it'll be fine!
General question: In some games the Combat Medic might have surprisingly good defenses and attacking power but are otherwise slow, and their armor type is still lower than the resident tank (Stone Wall) character. Can they have both the Mighty Glacier and Squishy Wizard (the latter trope directly listed as downplayed) or do both tropes contradict each another?
How many games got ported into Nintendo Switch? A lot of them.
he/him
From X-Cellent:
- Creator Provincialism: While the series takes place in America, writer Peter Milligan's British background occasionally shows, as in the designs of Rick Ragger and Fluff, and the decision to have a character named Toodle Pip.
That feels like misuse.
Toodle Pip is a British immigrant to America, and her codename's taken from the last thing her (British) father said before shooting himself in the head.
No Celebrities Were Harmed, on the same page, directly states that Fluff is a "dead-ringer for a young Mick Jagger" and Rick (who's a minor Posthumous Character) "appears to be an expy of Freddie Mercury, with some elements of David Bowie thrown in".
So based on three British rock stars, yes - but a British writer putting a few British characters in a series with an overwhelmingly American cast doesn't feel like this trope?
Cut?
Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 12th 2023 at 1:59:33 PM
I've never been entirely certain that this entry is genuinely an example of Resurrective Immortality, as the trope seems to be about someone coming back from the dead in the body they died in, whereas Ozpin loses his body and ends up doing a Body Surf into a new body. Now that Parasitic Immortality has been launched, and Ozpin has been added as an example of that trope, should he be removed from Resurrective Immortality?
- Resurrective Immortality: Ozma has been reincarnating for thousands of years as part of a divine mission to redeem humanity for a past transgression against the gods. When Ozma's physical body dies, his soul, Aura and memories join with a new, compatible individual and their souls and Aura merge into one being over time. The host gains all of Ozma's collective knowledge and abilities while adding something new to Ozma, changing him slightly with each reincarnation. When Ozpin's body dies at the Battle of Beacon, the fourteen-year-old Oscar becomes Ozma's new host, but has to train his body and Aura before he can tap into the full scope of Ozma's knowledge and memories.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Jun 12th 2023 at 6:27:47 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Am I a weirdo?
I'd say Mighty Glacier and Squishy Wizard are mutually exclusive.
That feels shoehorned.
I think you can keep it. Tropes can overlap, and I think this kind of immortality fits both tropes.
Musician/Composer
In the Donkey Kong Country games for the SNES, Dixie Kong sometimes chews some bubble gum in her Idle Animation. Does this fit under the Oral Fixation trope?
Edited by gjjones on Jun 12th 2023 at 4:00:07 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
I'm helping!
Oral Fixation is a persistent character trait, not one thing that happens in one context. Try finding any indication that she chews on things outside of that one context.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=1120#comment-27990
Squishy Wizard and Mighty Glacier are rare together IMO but not unheard of, though for your example to be a Squishy Wizard, they should have lower defense/health than "worse than the Stone Wall" which could be anything from "still higher than average" to "paper defenses".
he/him
Before I get too overzealous on unilateral cutting...
Spotted on Ascended Fanon:
- Star Trek:
- Star Trek (2009) canonizes Uhura's first name of Nyota; it was assigned by either William Rotsler or Vonda N. McIntyre, depending on who you ask, and endorsed by Nichelle Nichols and Gene Roddenberry, to the point where it was in general use for decades but simply had never managed to make it into a canon production. The same movie canonized the names George and Winona for James T. Kirk's parents, coined in a novel by McIntyre.
- Star Trek VI finally made official Sulu's personal name of Hikaru, which also originated in a McIntyre novel a decade earlier.
If Sulu's first name and Kirk's parents' names were confirmed in an official Expanded Universe novel, they don't become Ascended Fanon just because they made it back to TV or film, do they? That's closer to RetCanon or Canon Immigrant...?
The Other Wiki also states that Uhura's first name Nyota was first used in the licenced Star Trek II Biographies book in the 1980s, then various Star Trek novels... so I don't think it counts as Ascended against the film, either?
Thoughts?
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Question about this entry I found on YMMV.The Little Mermaid 2023:
- One-Scene Wonder: Despite only having five minutes of screen time, Ursula's human alter ego Vanessa and her actress Jessica Alexander were well received, with audiences saying Alexander nailed Vanessa's sexy temptress vibe.
So like she's in five minutes true, it's just you know she is Ursula who's in a lot of scenes. Does this fit? It might but I wanted more opinions.
Edited by Bullman on Jun 12th 2023 at 5:37:45 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Still Ursula. Cut.
Hmm... this might be more of a 'precise trope scope' question, but I think I've seen One-Scene Wonder examples for, say, a really stellar Time-Shifted Actor (eg YMMV.Atonement cites the oldest Briony actress). I would actually be inclined to allow it as it's a different 'form'/actor.
How's this?