Misused: But You Screw One Goat

In the examples, this is misused for any hint of bestiality, ever. (I'm cutting the worst of it before I post this, but please come have a look.) Here are some low-context examples from works I don't know about (do they play it for bestiality = depraved perversity? Is there shame? Insult? Anything?):

Anime/Manga

• In Nerima Daikon Brothers, both Ichiro and Yukika are very attracted to Pandaikon.
• Sorta played around in My Balls with Asmodeus, the sheep demon and Kohta at one instance. May also count for Beezlebub, Lamia and Minotaur.
• Erika from After School Sex Slave Club loses her virginity to a pig in front of an audience.

Comics

• In Batman: Dark Allegiances, an Elseworlds story set in the 1930s, one character keeps insinuating that there is a blue movie of actress Kitty Graymalkin (a.k.a. Catwoman) having unnatural relations with a Rottweiler.
• Ramba: In one scene in "Violent Death", Ramba has her pet cat Lucifer lick her vagina after finding out she has another target to assassinate.

Fanfic

• The stunningly surreal Final Fantasy VII fic Chocobo Nights features Tifa having sex with a chocobo. Yeah.
• Forbiden Fruit: The Tempation of Edward Cullen features Jasper Cullen having a threesome with a human named Vince and the Mary Sue heroine's sidekick. This would be all very well, if not for the fact that the sidekick is an apparently non-anthropomorphic panda.

Film

• The movie Black Sheep. The older brother's relationship with a certain sheep has a bonus of being incestuous.
• The factor that changes the entire plot of American Pie Presents: Beta House.
• In Kingpin, the hero's friends attempt to distract his opponent with a pretty girl, which doesn't work. So they bring in this sheep...
• In Kinsey, a sex researcher asks a heavily accented man about his first sexual experience, and he says what sounds like "with a horse." Stunned, the researcher asks more about the man's sexual experimentation with animals, to which the man exclaims "It's true, I fucked a pony. How did you know?" Turns out he had said "with whores" the first time.
  • And then there's.... that one guy. Who first time had a sex with his mother when he was ten, and things go downhill from there; 14 members of his immediate family, several thousand people, including hundreds of prepubescent children of both sexes, and a whole list of various species of animals.
• Pink Flamingos: Crackers sure does seem to have a thing for those chickens.
• In a brief scene in the city from Conan The Barbarian, Conan and Subotai have a good laugh over a guy screwing a llama.
• The 2009 Star Trek movie has Uhura invoke this while snubbing Kirk's advances:
  Uhura: Oh, I thought you were just a dumb hick who only has sex with farm animals.
  Kirk: Well, not only.
• The whole "Shepherd and shrink" part of Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Sex, But Were Afraid to Ask. The sheep in lingerie! Yikes!
• In The Animal the protagonist (who has animal organs implanted in him) gets sexually attracted to a goat in heat, Played for Laughs.
• This trope is the main joke in Fierce Creatures, where a comedy of errors occurs that repeatedly involve Jamie Lee Curtis walking in on John Cleese, women, and various livestock.
• District 9 anybody?
  • After Wikus flees the Corrupt Corporate Executive and his goons, the media reports that he was seeking out alien whores. Every human he talks to after that for the rest of the movie comments on his alien sex.
  • People think that Wikus' steady transformation into an alien is due to an alien STD.
  • Totally justified in that thanks to MNU's propaganda, that's all anyone did know about Wikus.
• Vase De Noces, informally known as The Pig Fucking Movie.
• Island Of Death showed the main character having sex with a goat. It gets weirder from then on.

Literature

• The novel Beloved plays this completely seriously. The slaves on the farm have sex with cows because they have no prospect of sleeping with a woman.

• In The Journeyer, by Gary Jennings, a historical novel about the life and travels of Marco Polo, the slave Nostril first makes his appearance being dragged behind a panicked mare which he had been assigned to groom and to which he had been chained. Nostril's proclivities get more creative as the novel progresses.
• Played rather seriously in Balzac's novella A Passion in the Desert where a man's relationship with a leopard he domesticates is presented in romantic terms.
• Ditto for the main character and his horse in Brightly Burning by Mercedes Lackey. Of course, since the horse is a Talking Animal, it's not quite as perverted.
  • He and his Companion are in love with each other, but he only ever mounts her in the usual equine sense. The heralds probably would have had something to say, otherwise...
  • It should be noted that Companions are the divinely reincarnated souls of dead (human) Heralds. This might help make it less creepy.
• In the Stephanie Plum book series, Stephanie's cousin Vinnie was once "in love" with a duck.
  • Vinnie is the butt of this joke quite often. In one of Stephanie's monologues he's said to sleep with anything: Women, Men, Dogs, Goats...
  • There's also a persistent rumor about Joyce's alleged fondness for dogs...
• Ferrol Sams' book Run With The Horseman has the character nicknamed "Moo Cow" for this reason.
• Joan Hess's Maggody mysteries contain joking references to this, many of them in regards to how Raz Buchanon dotes upon his pet pedigree sow, Marjorie. Internal monologue by Robin Buchanon, just before her death, indicates this character had trained the family dog to engage in some highly-questionable behavior.

Live-Action TV

Okay I give up here (for now). That wasn't even half of the page!!

Let's just say this: from the 7500 words of examples up until this section, I cut out 4900 words. And that was only the obvious misuse.

Last I checked the description (which was maybe once, ever) it was supposed to be about a character being forever remembered only for one negative (no matter how minor) accomplishment, which is totally what the Trope-Naming page quote was about:

But, judging by the actual description of the article today (which goes back to 2010), "hints of bestiality" is exactly what the description says it is.

edited 18th May '12 11:05:31 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

I thought so too, but that's not what the description and laconic say.

Apparently the trope-naming quote is technically an example of Never Live It Down. Maybe that's why they removed it.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

Hmm... given that being forever remembered for one negative thing, even if you've done much better things later on, is a particular subtrope of Never Live It Down, I think it makes more sense to just make this about, well, screwing one goat (or sheep, or whatever). I'm fine with it representing that, so long as we don't get creepy about it.

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.

But it can't be only about "screwing one goat". Sexual taboos aside, it's just an occurrence without specific formulaic narrative context, i.e. the trope part. "Bestiality for whatever narrative purpose" is Chairs.

Bestiality Is A Special Kind Of Depraved — that's what this trope is trying to be today (i.e. what its desc and laconic say). For those cases when you want to establish a character as perverted and a freak, but extra-marital sex, homosexuality and S/M are every-day matters to your audience.

Then there's this whole thing about the supernatural, err, nature of the union between a human woman and an animal (and their offspring). Important, age-old thing, should be troped really. BYSOG history can be mined for examples, I know I removed a number of those earlier today.

There might be another trope or two in there, but for now, they keep evading me.

edited 18th May '12 3:37:52 PM by peccantis

The pre-existing phrase this trope is named for is actually about Never Live It Down. That alone is enough reason to rename this one.

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

No it isn't. People realized that it shouldn't be confused with Never Live It Down and adjusted the page accordingly. The name is playing off the joke, and where the joke is listed on the page, it potholes the punchline to Never Live It Down, which is correct. I don't see a problem with that.

We're not just men of science, we're men of TROPE!

^ The joke is not an example of this trope (or how it's defined today anyway) and should not be there at all.

IMO that the trope namer is not an example is grounds for rename, but how about we'll let a crowner decide? here it is

edited 19th May '12 5:25:13 AM by peccantis

Crowner's hooked.

If we're voting down all the crowner choices that would deal with the shoehorned examples of bestiality, the misuse is not going to be resolved by a rename.

We're not just men of science, we're men of TROPE!

If the point of this trope is "bestiality to show a person's depravity", which a lot of the current examples ignore, perhaps we should split off a trope along the lines of Bestiality Played For Laughs. A bunch of the examples would fit better there.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird

You don't know that. Your hypothesis is as of yet untested. How about we give it a try first?

Also, are the rename and clarify options mutually exclusive, or can both be done?

edited 21st May '12 3:46:25 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

Examples that were recently cut (to be moved???(They certainly belong somewhere, even if that somewhere is ffwiki.))

In Mark Millar's run on The Authority, a cybernetically-enhanced assassin seemingly took out The Authority to make way for a replacement team of Expies selected by the elites of the world to make sure they stayed in power. Once the real Authority make a comeback and the assassin is depowered, The Doctor thinks the best fate for the assassin is to be taken to his backwater hometown, where he was raped as a child. That doesn't scare him...until he's turned into a chicken and left outside the bar...and when everyone exits, they're drunk enough to think a chicken is fine, too.

Cherry has sex with a dolphin in one issue of Cherry Comics.

Max Und Moritz by Wilhelm Busch provoke a tailor by calling him "goat-Böck". Nowadays it just sounds like a pun on his name (well, in German). At this time though, it implied he was doing improper acts with goats...

An issue of Xxxenophile has a romantic pairing of adventurers coming out of a dungeon with a serious problem: The woman touched something that cursed her by turning her into a centaur. She's despondent about the prospects of them staying together, but he wins her over, and they discover that having sex transfers the curse to the uncursed partner. She then gets an idea, and (with considerably more care and maneuvering) switch the curse back to her. The next morning, they depart the area, both human, and there's a rather irritated-looking stallion with six legs standing nearby.

From the Avatar: The Last Airbender fic Tempest in a Teacup we have "I will not write any more ballads about the (in)famous "Goat in the Prince's Bed" incident."

Nobody Dies has a multitude of spawned fanfictions. In "The story of Nerv Alaska", the protagonist spent a good part of his life chatting with a penpal who is actually the AI for Evangelion Unit-14 that he eventually falls in love for. Towards the end of the story Unit-14 gains a fully functional human body, to which intercourse obviously occurs. He is now known as Eva Fucker, and his creator, Eva Pimp.

While it's not true of the vast majority of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fanfiction (despite some Internet stereotypes about bronies), there are definitely a few "clopfics" out there that feature human OCs having sex with pony characters.

Clerks 2: Wherein the protagonists hire a donkey show called 'Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud'. It turns out that Kelly is the donkey, and the Sexy Stud is the heavyset male dancer whom they had assumed was just the donkey's handler. "But this donkey's a dude!" "Kelly can be a guy's name too!"

• Also, Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back has Jay getting Brent to say he'd fuck a sheep if he were another sheep. When he tells the rest of the Animal Wrongs Group (sort of, it's a long story) they're hanging out with, he leaves out the second part...
  • A deleted scene shows it may have been poetic justice. He was kicked out of the van by a sheep farm, and after collecting himself and staring at one of the sheep, he pulls out a condom (the sheep itself was a multi-thousand-dollar CGI creation they had custom-made for the scene so they wouldn't have to find a sheep farm...and so of course it ended up on the cutting-room floor).
• Don't forget that the Clerks 2 scene's characters hired "Kinky Kelly" in the first place because they were inspired by a girl-on-donkey act in Bachelor Party. Consummation was averted in this earlier comedy, because the donkey died of a cocaine overdose.
• Interesting to note that in Chasing Amy, when Holden tells Jay and Silent Bob that he is dating Alyssa Jones, Jay immediately starts going on about her sexually deviant past, and states "Yo, I heard one time, she had this dog..." Holden doesn't want to hear anymore.

Pirates Of The Caribbean: During the scene in Davy Jones' Locker, Jack Sparrow is implied to have this proclivity.

• Since the scene was otherwise populated entirely by manifestations of Jack, there's the possibility that the goat was yet another aspect of his own (crazy, crazy) psyche. Better or worse?
• One of the Jacks had laid an egg, suggesting the one with the goat may have been a goat too. Though why Jack's insanity causes him to imagine himself as various barnyard animals is perhaps best not explored.

In The Terminal, Victor Nigorsky (played by Tom Hanks) is called to interpret for a man from his home country. The man was detained because he had tried to pass medicine through a security checkpoint without the proper formalities, and he is desperate to catch his flight because his father needs the medicine to survive. The antagonist cites security codes in refusing to let any of the medicine through, whereupon the main character turns the tables and claims that he had actually misinterpreted the man, and that the medicine was actually for his pet goat. Since the security codes only cover human medicine, they have to let him go through. The main character provides this excuse for the man's overjoyed reaction...

—>He must REALLY love his goat.

• In Club Dread, Juan is revealed to have been arrested for having sex with a goat, mostly to set up the following pun:

—>Juan: We were just a couple of crazy kids!

• Weirdly subverted in Angela's Ashes, when a priest asks him in confession about his masturbatory habits, and mentions animals. Cut to several boys attempting to use sheep standing around in a field as...porn, I guess. It doesn't really work.

• In Four Weddings And A Funeral, friends of Groom # 1 repeatedly joke about him and sheep. It's nothing but a joke, but worth listing here.

• After the threat of his artificial actress being exposed as not real in S1m0ne, the main character tried to invoke the trope by putting "Simone" into a movie about being/having sex with a pig. It backfired.
• In Dirty Work, rich jerkass Travis Cole has a tiny little chihuahua he always carries around with him. In one scene, Mitch and Sam keep asiding to each other that, "I think he has his finger in the dog's ass!"
• Averted in The Men Who Stare At Goats. In a film with a title and premise like this, you'd just expect to hear at least one throwaway joke about being too, ahem, interested in goats. But nope, nothing like that.
• Epic Movie has not one, but two characters born from human-animal crossbreeding.
• There is a movie that involved Amish country and David Graf (Tackelberry) being found in bed with a chicken. At some point he died, possibly from jumping out the window after being found out, but his headstone is engraved thus:

—> Here Lies (Name)
What Can Be Said
He Loved Chicken
Now He's Dead

• Interestingly, both Beowulf and Beowulf And Grendel had jokes about screwing sheep. The latter's jokes were a tad more graphic, even mentioning a king who did a rabbit and got stuck.

• The lost pre-Code comedy Convention City reportedly includes a drunk conventioneer leading a goat back to his hotel room.
• There's a scene in Airplane that shows Captain Oveur's wife getting a nighttime phonecall from the airline to let her know that her husband has fallen ill during a flight. The camera widens, showing a horse from the head up; she then proceeds to tell her bed companion how to let himself out.
  • Airplane 2: The Sequel recycles this gag in the Right on Queue scene in which passengers are lining up to join the Mile-High Club with the You Don't Want to Die a Virgin, Do You? girl. The next scene shows her smoking, with a donkey in the next seat.
• In Cabin Fever, Burt, while drunk, tells about the time he was jacking off, and his dog came up and licked his asshole. "Now that's what I call hardcore masturbation!"

• In Freddy Got Fingered, Gord (Tom Green) both sucks milk directly from a cow's udder and masturbates both a horse and an elephant. The Golden Raspberry Awards recognized this by giving Worst Screen Couple to "Tom Green and any animal he abuses",

• There's a story about Frederick the Great, in which he saw a cavalryman being brought to execution, and when he asked why, was told it was because the man had buggered his horse. Frederick didn't believe in wasting soldiers, so he ordered that the man be put in the infantry, and apologized to him that he would be separated from his horse.
  • There were also some nasty rumors that Frederick had non-platonic feelings toward his beloved pet dog.
• One of the more prevalent (and untrue) rumors surrounding Catherine The Great's death is that she was crushed by a horse that was being lowered upon her for intercourse. She actually died of a stroke; however, her sexual appetite supposedly was that big (setting aside the question of her interest in other species, she is alleged to have slept with a substantial fraction of the Russian Army officer corps). It wasn't the horses, it was the fine young men who rode them.
• A couple of stories in All the World's Reward, a collection of Scandinavian folktales have a fool character whose bride runs away on their wedding night and places a sheep in her place. It's not explicitly stated that the protagonist falls into this trope, but it is strongly implied.
  • There's also a passage describing a woman who "lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." Um. Presumably, it was just a Hebrew way of expressing that they had impressive genitals, with all that goes with it. You can judge for yourself in Ezekiel 23:20. Also, you should now know what to put on a sign the next time you go to a football game and sit by the dude with the John 3:16 sign.
    • There is a variation that is used to parody what the speaker perceives as extreme nationalism (especially when something being of Hungarian origin is being emphasized in a context where it is irrelevant); it goes something like "a Hungarian arse needs a Hungarian horse's dick". The implication is that if you have a horse dick in your bottom, you probably don't care very much about the nationality of the horse.
• Greek Mythology time.
  • The Minotaur. The Cretan queen Pasiphae fell in love with a white bull (because Poseidon and Eros are pranksters), and had Daedalus devise a wooden cow in which she hid until the bull came along and I think you can work the rest out yourself.
    • Some versions have it that Posideon and Eros weren't pranksters, it was revenge. Posideon had lent King Minos his prize White Bull to father some excellent calves but then Minos did not give the Bull back when Posideon asked. So rather than aim his wrath at the King himself they decided to give his Queen the passion for the Bull.
  • Queen Leda of Sparta was raped (or possibly seduced, given the peculiar attitude towards this sort of thing in Classical Myth) by Zeus, who comes to her in the form of a swan; later that day, she had sex with her human husband, King Tyndareus (or, depending on the myth, she slept with her husband and then Zeus came to her). Some time later, she lays two eggs (!) and from each egg hatch two children: from one egg, the boys Castor and Pollux, and from the other, the girls Helen and Clytemnestra. And yes, Helen is that Helen. While Clytemnestra is almost always considered to be Tyndareus' daughter and Pollux is always considered to be Zeus' son, the father of Helen and Castor changes depending on what myth you're reading.
  • Zeus appeared to Europa in the form of a white bull. While most versions of the myth have Zeus turning back into a human shape before they do the deed, most myths also have her getting on the back of the bull, naked, caressing his flanks as he takes her across the sea to Crete (don't ask). Incidentally, Europa was the mother of Minos, Pasiphae's husband; bulls appear to be something of a recurring theme on Crete.
    • Bulls were a recurring theme because all the legends we have of Crete come to us from the Greeks, who succeeded them as the major power in the Agaean. The Minoans apparently had a very involved set of religious beliefs which, in part, had a bull-deity who died in the fall and was reborn in the spring. Artistic representations of bulls abounded in their society, some quite realistic by the artistic standards of the day, and the Minoans (compared to the Greeks at that time) had a much more advanced technology and civilization. It all came to an end when Thera erupted - that was a catastrophe their culture never recovered from, and their final collapse happened right around the time that the Greeks were getting their act together as a civilization. Many historians think that this sparked the first legends of Atlantis. As for all the bull legends (particularly those which relate to the minotaur and those regarding burning children alive inside a brass bull), it's thought this is anti-Minoan propoganda by early Greeks, jealous of the Minoans' wealth and prosperity and not really comprehending their bull-god culture at all.
  • Zeus transformed himself into a white cloud and Io into a white heifer in order to hide what he was doing from Hera. Hera saw right through it; after a very long tale, this is why women have periods.
  • There are also tales of Zeus having sex in the form of of an ant (with Eurymedusa, producing the Myrmidons), an eagle (twice!), a satyr, ...
    • There's also the peculiar story of Callisto, in which, to get around the vow of chastity Callisto had taken as one of the nymphs of Artemis, he transforms himself into Artemis and her into a bear...which is why Ursa Major and Ursa Minor look like bears; the shortness of bears' tails is a tale for later. Also, there's the tale of the nymph Taygete, who got raped and turned into a doe; which one happened first is totally unclear. Either way, the child of that union was Lacdaemon, founder of Sparta.
• You know Odin's famous steed, Sleipnir? You may have wondered how one can acquire a horse with eight legs. The answer: by having as its parents one half-God-half-Giant and one horse — after promising a hefty reward for a builder if he could complete his work within three days with the help of his horse, Loki found himself hated by the other gods, who assured him that he would suffer painfully if they had to pay the fee. Loki's plan to weasel out of the payment was, of all things, to turn himself into a female horse, lure away the builder's stallion, and let the horse impregnate him. He later gave birth to Sleipnir.
  • Well considering the OTHER option was to deal with the vengeance of Gods known for drunkenness and warfare, all of whom had been forced to deal with some of Loki's bullshit in the past, the horse thing was probably FAR better than whatever they would end up doing to him. Hell, before Ragnarok he ended up getting a version of Chinese Water Torture with a POISONOUS SNAKE dripping venom onto his face for eternity. This is why we have Earthquakes, he twitches whenever he gets hit by a drop.
    • Never mind the fact that said snake is his SON. (The wolf Fenrir is apparently one of his kids, too. Loki sure got around.)
  • Another version of the story, with a less unpleasant characterization of Loki, has Odin making the deal with giant, and the giant getting to have sex with Odin's wife if he finishes on time. Odin is not happy when he sees that the giant is looking to win the bet, and Loki saves the day (and gets his father a nifty mount into the bargain). This version is also conspicuously absent of anyone thanking Loki for doing all this.

• The Hungarian "mythology" has it's fair share as well. The most famous example would be the birth story of Chief Álmos (Álmos translates as "Dreamed One" in hungarian). In the story, Álmos's mother Emese, the wife of the elderly chief was impregnated by a Turul (Saker Falcon) in her dream, and the bird also told her that her child will be the ancestor of kings. The story often varries whether the bird just prophesied the arrival of the child, or actually fathered him, depending on who told whom and when.

• Lady Karen of the Wamphyri, in the Harry Koegh series, says that, "...there's no pleasure in beasts" when listing the reasons for her sexual frustrations before Harry arrives.
• Aberforth Dumbledore, brother of Albus, in the Harry Potter series, was apparently arrested prior to the series for "performing inappropriate charms on a goat." Guess what the Fanon has decided to imply.
  • Considering Aberforth's pub smells of goats and his Patronus is a goat, the logical leap required isn't very large...
    • Gets even worse in The Tales of Beedle the Bard, where one of Albus' notes states Aberforth's favorite bedtime story was "Grumble the Grubby Goat".
    • And on Mary Sue Sporking communities, Dumbledore's-Niece!Sues are referred to as being half-goat.
  • One time JK Rowling was asked in an interview what the "inappropriate charms" were. She skilfully avoided giving a detailed answer, since the asker was eight. (To older readers, it sounded like she was confirming this trope in her non-answer.)
  • This resulted in a Running Gag on Muggle Cast, in which Micah is said to like goats. "I'm only going to the Hog's Head if it has a goat."

• Used for horror in HP Lovecraft's The Shadow Over Innsmouth, where the founders of the titular city have been known to have interbred with fish.
  • Also of note is Facts Concerning the Late Sir Arthur Jermyn and his Family, where the family in question is a little bit more Darwinian than usual.

—>If we knew what we are we should do as Sir Arthur Jermyn did, and Sir Arthur Jermyn covered himself in oil and set fire to his clothes one night.

• In Robert Bloch's Cthulhu Mythos story "The Brood of Bubastis", this is how a renegade ancient Egyptian cult was able to bring their animal-headed deities into being in the flesh.

• In Feet Of Clay, Sergeant Colon is reading a book titled "Animal Husbandry". He was worried about the title, you hear strange things about folks in the countryside...
  • Played around with regarding Nanny Ogg's favourite Bawdy Song, "The Hedgehog Can Never Be Buggered At All", whose full lyrics we never learn; she sometimes manages to get in a line or two before being silenced.
    • However Fanon has its own version which is exactly what you might expect and goes over things like the utility of ladders in conjunction with giraffes.
    • Fanon has at least two versions.
    • Or three.
  • There's also a mention of the Carter family in Lords And Ladies, whose daughters were named after virtues and sons after vices, thus leading to a minor character by the name of Bestiality Carter. Fortunately for him, all the names in the Carter family are also Non Indicative Names, so while his sister Charity is known for being a skinflint, Bestiality is known for being kind to animals.
  • In Maskerade, a footnote on 'going to bed with the chickens and getting up with the cows' is provided to avoid any implication of this trope.
  • Also not quite this trope, but somewhat related: in Lancre, what's said at your naming ceremony is your name forever after regardless of whether it's what your parents intended or even whether it makes sense, resulting in King My God He's Heavy (the first, no less), and James What The Hell's That Cow Doing In Here Poorchick, which his friends shorten to "Moocow Poorchick".
  • In Jingo, Patrician Vetinari travels incognito and winds up leading a scared donkey out of a narrow tower, which should have been near impossible:

—>"It's not real!... the donkey! It's inflatable!"
"Can you think of a reason why I would happen to have an inflatable donkey with me?... One that you wouldn't mind explaining to your own dear mother?"

• Additionally, his nickname at school "Dog-botherer," may have been an Unusual Euphemism for an accusation of this trope, as well as the more obvious pun on his name being Vetinari.
  • Havelock himself remarks that he's relieved his nickname is only Dog-botherer, suggesting that the school bullies wouldn't have bothered with euphemisms if they'd thought of this trope sooner.

• The Red Dwarf novel Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers includes a brief visit to a robot-staffed brothel that caters to all tastes, including this trope.
• In Midnight at the Well of Souls Wuju's lust for Nathan Brazil seems forever foiled when she gets turned into a centaur and neither of them have a taste for this trope. However, when his mind is transplanted into the body of a large stag....
• In Christopher Moore's Lamb, Gospel as Told by Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal, this is played with A LOT. When the titular character Biff comments how he's a great shepherd, he mentions what a good job he did keeping an eye out for abominations"

—>Biff: Being a shepherd seems easy. I went with Kaliel last week to tend his flock. The Law says that two must go with the flock to keep an abomination from happening. I can spot an abomination from fifty paces.
Maggie: And did you prevent any abominations?
Biff: Oh yes, I kept all of the abominations at bay while Kaliel played with his favorite sheep behind the bushes.

• And for another

—>Josh: What is this thing?
Gasper: It's a Yeti. An abominable snowman.
Biff: This is that what happens when you fuck a sheep?
Josh: Not an abomination, abominable.

• Tormund, one of the wildlings from A Song Of Ice And Fire, has among his titles "Husband of Bears." He later explains to Jon Snow where he got the title: he was drunk and horny, there was a snowstorm on, he went out to claim some wildling girl he knew, and woke up the next morning with a bearskin pelt and some very painful injuries.
  • Wildlings being who they are, he carries the title as a badge of honour instead of as a mark of shame, and most wildlings laugh with him about the tall tale that accompanies it.

• The Xenophobe's Guide to the Icelanders relates a story about the Icelanders' lingering belief in the hidden people (álfur) and other supernatural creatures. According to the book, a largish group of Icelanders was asked how many of them had seen a hidden person. Many raised their hands. The next questions was how many had spoken to a hidden person. Some people kept their hands up. Then the interviewer asked if any of them had ever had sex with a hidden person. An old farmer still held his hand up. When pressed for details, it allegedly turned out that he had misheard - he thought the question was about having had sex with calves (kálfur).
• In The Forest Of Hours, at one point the narrator takes a break from the main plot to tell an anecdote of a lady in the royal court who fell in love with her horse. When her husband found out, he had the horse butchered.
  • Later in the novel, Skord has a minor Heroic BSoD after walking in on a drunk farmhand violating a cow.
• Implied to be a rather common thing in Xanth, thanks to the presence of "love" springs - which causes anyone who drinks from it to fall instantly in lust with the first anything of the opposite sex that happens by. If both parties drink, "Stork Summoning" commences immediately. "My parents met at a love spring" is a recurring theme in Xanth origin stories.
• The Irish mare example below appears in The Fiery Cross. Jamie has a dream that the whole spectacle was falling afoul of Murphy's Law. First, the incumbent Irish king is too short to reach the mare. Second, they notice that the horse is black, and would not do (while Jamie protests that there's nothing wrong with it). Finally, Jamie himself has been pressed into service, and is poised to do the deed, before he wakes up.
• In the Ancient Roman novel The Golden Ass, as well as the Greek novel that inspired it, the main character is transformed into a donkey, and at one point, a woman has sex with him while he's transformed (and in the Greek novel, when he tries to start up a relationship when human again, she takes offense that his "equipment" doesn't compare to how it was when he was in animal form). There's also a later incident in the Roman novel, wherein a woman who committed a horrible crime is going to be made to have sex with the transformed protagonist during one of those Roman events where criminals were punished for the amusement of the public.
  • Though the donkey-man skips town before the event, the concept of female criminals or slaves being raped by animals in the arena is Truth in Television.
• In the Farseer trilogy, some people believe that the Witted (people who can communicate telepathically with animals) get this power by having intercourse with animals.
• In The Book Of The New Sun, the protagonist describes a guild of animal trainers who he claims eschew human women and marry their beasts. Fanon has argued that he was misunderstanding the term "animal husbandry".

• Pierre Gringoire from The Hunchback of Notre Dame is seen being very affectionate with Esmeralda's goat Djali, to the point where he worries about the goat more than her when Esmeralda and Djali are sentenced to death. At the end, he chooses to save the goat instead of Esmeralda, and runs off with it. Guess what implications fanon has taken from this.

• Aubrey Beardsley's story Venus and Tannhäuser has an explicit scene involving Venus and her pet male unicorn.
• In-universe for Tibbet in Wicked. After he has sex with a male Tiger in the Philosopher's Club, he is described as having never been the same again. He ends up dying rather horrifyingly in a hospital. The fandom seems to remember him mostly for other reasons.
• In The Long Firm, Harry Starks tells this story about an inmate he once knew:

—>Harry: Turns out Frank wasn't into little boys or little girls. He was into pigs. Yeah, old Frank had been making bacon in a big way. ... But what do you think is going through his mind at night in his cell as he's doing the old five-knuckle shuffle? Yeah, his little curly-tailed friends. ... Over the years he notches up fifteen separate convictions for bestiality and a fair few for breaking and entering pig farms. ... One day, just out of curiosity, I turned to him and asked, "Frank, tell me, all those pigs you fucked, were they male or female?" And he looks at me, all affronted, and says, "They were sows, Harry. What do you think I am, queer or something?"

• The Dresden Files: Sort of Justified, though Your Mileage May Vary; a young Werewolf couple in the short story Day Off are heavily implied to have had sex while in wolf form. No word on whether they were both transformed at the time...
• Implied in the Carl Hiaasen novel Tourist Season, where Skip Wiley calls Dr. Courtney, the psychiatrist he's been sent to see, a "goosefucker".
  • Inverted, to queasy if hilarious effect, in Native Tongue; as a publicity stunt to increase sagging attendance, Charles Chelsea, the spokesperson at the Amazing Kingdom of Thrills, invites Maria, a TV reporter, to swim with Dickie the Dolphin, one of the park's main attractions. Except the dolphin is male, without a mate, and, well...

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For now, rename/clarify leads.

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Calling crowner.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer

Ookay. So. Suggestions for new name?

Bestiality Is A Special Kind Of Depraved/Perverted/whatever.

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New crowner: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/AlternativeTitles/ButYouScrewOneGoat?open=all#bj6w2zun

Alt titles crowner hooked.

Added a few non-snowclone-y and shorter options there.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I have no idea where the "X is a special kind of Y" Snow Clone comes from, but I object to it because it's awkwardly phrased and unnecessarily verbose.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!

I don't really like Bestiality Is Evil. The current trope is defined in a way that has nothing to do with evilness, but perversion and depravity; Bestiality Is Evil requires that perverted people are evil, which is another trope altogether.

//edit uhh brainfarted, should have been "perverted people are evil"

edited 11th Jun '12 5:03:45 PM by peccantis

Bestiality Perversity added.

Also, it doesn't require evil people to be B, but B to be evil.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Yeah, this trope isn't about bestiality being evil.

And about the "special kind of" snowclone... it's wordy, so far from ideal, but it gets the point across. Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil is not about how Rape is Evil. It's about how rape is portrayed as evil beyond how anything else is. Similarly, if we call this page "bestiality is perverted" we'll be sounding like a troupe of Captain Obviouses. Or, worse, like zoophiles complaining about our portrayal in media.

edited 11th Jun '12 3:08:09 PM by Routerie