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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Hob. While lots of people will simply dismiss his death as deserved and be confused or offended that his death is played as a tragedy keep in mind that Hob is 12, seems to have no family other than his gang, has Cain as a father figure, and is routinely exposed to humanity at its worst, is it really any wonder that he behaves the way he does? It's also implied in several scenes that he's not nearly as bad as he seems and a lot has to do with him merely trying to survive his situation. When he abandons Cain to his death it could be because he doesn't care or it could be because he hates Cain for years of abuse and is happy to see him gone. He is also visibly horrified and Forced to Watch another human being being vivisected in front of him. He has to constantly prove that he has value to his gang or be abandoned or worse and that activity always involves crime or doing terrible things. As much as people might dislike Hob, it's almost certain he never had a say in the circumstances he was brought up in and never had the choice to be anything else.
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  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: When Murphy is walking around one of Cain's Nuke plants, he takes a moment to examine a strange collective of artifacts on display there, like Elvis' supposed skeleton. It's most likely there because of gang member Catzo, a.k.a. "Elvis guy"; likely also to help reinforce the extreme opulence with which drug dealers often live.
  • Complete Monster: Cain, the psychotic Nuke cult leader, has a long list of crimes. These including blowing up a drug treatment center just because they try to cure people of their addiction to Nuke; eviscerating one of his drug-buying cops after RoboCop has forced him to reveal the location of one of the labs making Nuke, an action which his accomplices, Hob and girlfriend Angie are both Forced to Watch and horrified by; willingly using children as soldiers in his gang; shooting before removing from his limo an illegal immigrant worker from the drug lab, pleading not to be turned over the police; and, along with his gang, dismembering RoboCop. When he's turned into RoboCop 2, in exchange for a big container of Nuke, he charges his former gang's hideout and kills almost everyone there except the Mayor, who manages to escape. He twists Angie's head around and fatally shoots Hob, a young boy who was in his employ, leaving him for dead. He later without provocation tries to kill RoboCop to settle the score, with numerous civilians and police officers getting killed during the final battle.
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  • Contested Sequel: Hardly anyone would say that RoboCop 2 is as good as the original, but there is a debate on whatever it can be an entertaining film in its own right or not. All things considered, it's still better regarded than RoboCop 3.
  • Crosses the Line Twice: The proud debuts of the failed RoboCop 2 candidates. A multiple murder-suicide is tragic and horrifying. The fact that the failed candidate keeps mumbling "STOP OR I'LL SHOOT" in increasingly inarticulate fashion, and then after blowing its own brains out, deploys sirens? Hilarious.
  • Fetish Retardant: Fabiana Udenio in a bikini is awesome, but not when covered in green and blue goo (Sunblock 5000).
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • As this New York Post report points out, while the Amazon itself hasn't seen a nuclear meltdown yet, one could compare it to the Fukushima Daiichi plant and its aftereffect. Later in 2019, several fires would consume the Amazon and make this a grim reality.
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    • Faxx saying that part of the reason Murphy didn't snap is due to his upbringing as a Catholic and the scene of Cain and his gang stripping Murphy, when compared to the plot of RoboCop Versus The Terminator, as Murphy tries to kill himself to stop Skynet from coming online when he realizes the technology that made him a cyborg will ultimately cause humanity to become endangered; Skynet sends two Terminators back to ensure he doesn't do that—which involves removing Murphy's head and keeping him alive to force him to usher in Judgment Day.
    • Almost twenty years later, the City of Detroit actually defaulted and declared bankruptcy.
    • The Argument that Hob and Angie make to the mayor, that ignoring them will allow them to market a cheap, and safe version of Nuke, sounds similar to the argument of decriminalizing drugs, Marijuana in particular.
    • When Duffy is submitted to Cold-Blooded Torture, his chest where is heart is supposed to be gets cut open first, resulting in a lot of blood spurting and Duffy screaming in horror and pain. This is more unsettling when in 2014 Duffy's actor Stephen Lee passed away from a heart attack.
  • Jerkass Woobie: While Hob is as bad as most of the adults in the gang bar Cain, he's also 12 years old. It's likely that he's an orphan and has no choice but to rely on the gang as his family. He also has Cain as a father figure which doesn't really give a kid the most stability or safety growing up. Given his behavior and the way he carries himself and the fact that he's a victim of circumstances beyond his control it's hard no to see that he's a product of his environment and never had the chance to be anything else.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Belinda Bauer stars as psychologist Dr. Faxx, and later went on to become a qualified psychologist herself.
    • The scene in which several Robocop 2's malfunction gets an extra layer of meaning since the film Robocop 2 is generally considered inferior to the original.
  • Memetic Mutation: Behaaave yourselves! can be used to break up flame wars and the like.
  • Memetic Molester: ProtonJon and friends found the way the sprite!Murphy holds a child in the Gameboy game really creepy.
  • Narm Charm: "Behave yourselves!"
  • One-Scene Wonder: John Glover as the Magnavolt salesman at the beginning.
  • Special Effect Failure: Some of the stop motion effects on RoboCop 2 AKA RoboCain haven't aged well, especially when Murphy is grappling with him.
  • Squick
    • The demonstrations of initial attempts post-Murphy RoboCops are Nightmare Fuel.
      • Attempt #1 says "Stop or I'll shoot," then shoots two of the testers before shooting itself.
      • Attempt #2 removes its helmet to reveal a screaming skull.
    • Cain gets a spiffy new robot body and kills most of his old gang. Upon seeing his former wife/prostitute however, he opens up his head to reveal his screen-face and makes suggestive expressions and weird electric moans as she giggles for about a minute of film. It was almost a relief when she offended him by mistake and he killed her.
  • Too Bleak, Stopped Caring: The main issue most people who didn't like the film had with it. It was one of the reasons Peter Weller did not return for the third movie (along with how uncomfortable the suit was). A few scenes showing Robocop's humanity were also cut from the final film. In particular, many critics (including Roger Ebert) were offended by the character of Hob, thinking that putting a murderous Sir Swears-a-Lot 12 year old in an R-rated movie was taking things too far; not to mention, an even greater level of violence compared to the first film and the frequent, explicit hard drug use (albeit of a fictional drug).
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: Leonard Rosenman scored this one instead of Basil Poledouris, and believed it was much better than Poledouris' score (female choir singing "Ro-bo-cop!" and all). Unfortunately for him, just about everyone else felt it was a case of this trope - including the filmmakers themselves, who brought Poledouris back for the third movie.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: There are enough story ideas here to fill two movies. Having them all stuffed into one results in a script that jarringly jumps from one plot thread to another, and then gives a hurried resolution or just drops it.
  • Uncanny Valley:
    • The CGI head used for Cain after he gets his new body.
    • The twitching Robocop puppet after he's dismembered.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: A lot of people were confused or even annoyed when it came to the death of Hob. He acts like a dying child—which of course he is—and Robocop obviously treats him with some measure of implied sympathy, particularly since he was murdered by his old boss Cain. The problem is that Hob is a really, really evil dying child, who was involved in Murphy's dismantling, shoots two police officers and we've spent the movie watching him establish himself as an extremely ruthless Manipulative Bastard and aspirant drug lord. Basically the problem is, if he wasn't a kid, the audience probably would have been cheering. It has also been said, according to some fans, that Hob brought his death on himself. Hob was the one who made the decision to leave Cain for dead, which likely factored into Robo-Cain killing Hob, and there was the glee he took in damaging Robocop and trying to garrote Officer Lewis (even taunting her about it: "You're looking a little out of breath, bitch).
  • Vindicated by History: While still not as well regarded as the first movie, its nowadays considered a decent film and a lot better than the other sequels. It helps that the film still had memorable one-liners from Robocop that made it into Mortal Kombat 11 for RoboCop's Guest Fighter role. The film also introduced the memorable RoboCain with their creepy awesome (for its time) stop-motion animation.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: The very impressive stop-motion work done for RoboCain. Especially when rising out of the ground towards the end.
    • Which unfortunately veers into Special Effects Failure once Murphy grabs hold of him.
    • The 3D model on RoboCain's screen holds up quite well, and evokes Uncanny Valley very effectively. It was done by laser-scanning actor Tom Noonan's face in real time as he made the expressions.
    • The animatronic face of Peter Weller on the disassembled RoboCop wincing in pain is very convincing.
  • What an Idiot!:
    • Faxx, you honestly thought it was a good idea to put the mind of the city's greatest drug dealer and a serial killer into the body of a nearly unstoppable robot, all under the pretense that that you think he's under your control as long as he doesn't reach his controls? And her arrogance got countless lives lost in the process.
      • You'd think a psychiatrist would stop and think beyond "step 1: what sort of personality could survive being transplanted into a cyborg?" to reach and logically answer "step 2: is this the sort of personality we would want running around in a combat-grade cyborg?"
      • She even seems to go out of her way to make Cain's transformation as traumatic as possible: basically kills him via asphyxiation by turning off his life support (cue rapid brain damage due to oxygen loss), and doesn't bother having Cain's jar moved as she confers with a surgeon holding the remains of Cain's head in front of Cain's eyes. Faxx chose a drug-addicted murderer for Robocop 2's candidate and did it in the most horrifying manner, and somehow didn't think Cain wouldn't go berserk at first opportunity.
      • Given that she's completely unheard of by the 3rd movie clearly states that she committed career suicide and no doubt serving time for her actions.
    • Whose bright idea was it to hand the Old Man a canister of real Nuke to show off in front of the press? In his defense, he probably didn't know that the brain in RoboCop 2 was that of the former Nuke-worshipping drug-lord, Cain, though since he did approve of her putting brains of deranged criminals into Cyborgs he still should have been aware of the danger that would result from it. For that matter, how could the Old Man be the only one in the company to let Dr. Faxx's sex appeal make him forget that sticking psychopath's brains in cyborg bodies is an obviously bad idea? Everyone else she brought it up with, from her primary surgeon/programmer to Mr. Johnson, the Old Man's 2nd in command, immediately saw this was a stupid idea.
    • On that point, giving RoboCain a loaded gatling gun isn't exactly a smart move either. Then again, given that the same thing happened with the ED-209 in the first film, it's in character for OCP to do so.
    • Handing Robocop back to the city. Yeah, it's probably to make a statement, but he's clearly functional enough to be rebuilt.
    • Murphy wouldn't have nearly as much trouble with Hob if he just carried a nonlethal weapon like most real-life cops do anyway.


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