- That is, while the machine is unable to fell pity and remorse for its actions, the stitchpunks have feelings that allow them to create morals, but they are unable to think and process advanced logic. This explains some of their more questionable actions in the story, such as not waiting for 2's funeral and 8 using the magnet while he should be guarding. Other than a few of the 9, they let emotions and primal urges rule over their actions, rather than reason.
If they release this film with this title, then there will be at least some parents crying for blood when they find out this isn't the CGI cartoon. Therefore, the distributors for the DVD vs. will have to find another title.
- Did you even WATCH the damn movie? Dr. Trope hereby prescribe you a trip to the Animation Age Ghetto page, pronto.
- That's more the fault of ignorant parents really. I saw at least one ad for 9 that advertised it as "Not your little brother's animated movie". So the Moral Guardians can't say they weren't warned. As for the musical, the ads feature the woman in braziers. So either way the parents are to blame for not paying attention.
Spoilers ahead. You have been warned.
- Makes sense, machines did save professor while killing everything else more complex than rock.
- How is that a WMG? They explicitly say so in the DVD commentary.
- 1 symbolizes authority in general.
- This may be just my lack of attention to detail, but GLaDOS has a glowing red eye?
- And a blue one, and a yellow one, and a green one (although they all fell off)
- Lets not forget that that particular AI hung from the ceiling and swung back and forth, and used machinegun-toting robots and gas to attack humans. Which one am I talking about?
- Or of Mandark?
However, as the Scientist kept making puppets, he had less and less of himself to give. Six, the imagination of every good inventor, can barely interact with others. Seven embodies aspects that the Scientist didn't even know he had - namely, Female and Badass. And Eight is, as Terry Pratchett would put it, the part of the brain that's still a monkey - subservient, strong, focusing on primal urges. That's why the Scientist waited a long time before making Nine - he wanted to make one more puppet that would be worth it, that he could give everything to. And thus, Nine is also the one thing that the Scientist always wanted to be, but never thought he could - a Hero.
- Alternatively, the personalities are related to whatever part of the Scientist own personality was most prominent at a time. One is who he was after realizing just what had been done with his Machine: a bitter man, who feels old and used, who thinks that he could have done a lot better. This is why he is such a stubborn leader, and so intent on forgetting all that came before.
A long time passed between One and Two, as suggested by their designs. Two represents that childlike curiosity that he was re-experiencing in the creating of the Stitchpunks. Two wants to know and to build, but doesn't remember that curiosity killed the cat. Then came Three and Four.
- Actually, untrue. The Scientist's facebook page states that entire nations have crumbled and the machines can "travel across expansive oceans." It is very likely that the majority of the planet, or at least a continent or two, has been affected.
- Perhaps other nations have their own forms of carrying on the human legacy, maybe even their own set of stitchpunks. Of course, this leads way to many a foriegn 9 remake story... mine's in Great Britain.
- Wait, what? Wasn't the original film in England? The coins on 1's Hat and the one laid over 2's eyes didn't look like any currency this american troper knows.
- Future money. Half of today's currency doesn't look like what we grew up with.
- Or alternate universe money. Word of God is that this is a world where the Industrial Revolution never ended, so maybe the historical cultural differences led to different decisions at the mint.
- Which means two things considering the tank. Either this is in Europe, in general, or it is so different from out reality it is moot to call it America.
- Perhaps other nations have their own forms of carrying on the human legacy, maybe even their own set of stitchpunks. Of course, this leads way to many a foriegn 9 remake story... mine's in Great Britain.
- But the movie wasn't even set in America in the first place. It's clearly a post-World War I German town the movie takes place in.
- I've got to agree that it's in Germany. You can clearly see 'VORSICHT' ('careful') on a sign outside the tunnel.
- Technically that would be "gynophobic".
- The only reason we find 7 "female" is her voice, and the scene with 9 getting a voicebox shows that the stichpunks take their voiceboxes where and when they can. If 7 found a GI Joe instead of a Barbie, we'd all be calling 7 "him".
- 9's voicebox came from a babydoll. The fact that he sounds like a boy and can say things besides "Mama" and "Feed me" means that voiceboxes only give the dolls the power to speak, and don't actually affect what they sound like. Also, 2 seems surprised that 9 can't speak at first, which implies that the other dolls had their voices built-in. The Scientist probably died before 9 was finished.
- With how closely the voicebox is attached to the talisman cord plug thingy, that can't be far off.
- But 7 also wears earrings and seems generally motherly towards 3 and 4. That, and her voice, make her seem genuinely female. In fact, since it's implied that she and 1, the authoritarian, had a fallout, this troper was surprised it wasn't at least implied that 1 might have represented the mysogynist part of the scientist's mind mentioned above.
- This troper actually thought this might be the case around the part where 5 got drained.
- That occurred to me too, but look again at the flashback. The socket is where the talisman was placed to animate it in the first place. It's a lot fancier than his later setup for obvious reasons.
- Why else would the Machine HAVE an input for the Talisman?
- Maybe the scientistplanned out a win/win situation - if the fabricator absorbed the stitchpunks, it would gain a soul and, in time, rebuild civilization. Or, if the stitchpunks won, they would bring back life to the planet, eventually using the new reserves of soul energy to reproduce.
- This is very well possible. Shane Acker has said in an interview that the villain has motivation, and for that the audience would feel just as much sympathy for him as the protagonist.
U C, 0 (clled 0 becuz 0 iz moar goffik thin 10) has da powars 2 brng teh kiled stich punks beck 2 liv (cuz 1, 2, 5, 6 n' 8 (LOL giddit leik Ed, Edd n Eddy) dieing is rully ghey), and they haff 2 fit with da stich punk kiling mashene!
- Whereas one could imagine HP's stereotypically "Gothic" fanbase, one could imagine the 9 fandom having some kind of stereotypical steam/cyberpunk fanbase (I wouldn't know for sure in either case), using gratuitous "refined" and at times overly complex language, which could be parodied just the same.
Greetings and salutations, the moniker I go by is infinimilleniumillion (infinity sign with a squiggle through it, to the tenth power); I am a 2.5 in. tall automaton structured mainly from a silken (but durable) fibre, utilizing the latest in clockwork machinery and electrical wizardry for my golden-molded hands and high-definition-camera eyes respectively. My body is inhabited by the soul of an ace pilot who was nonetheless skilled in all the fine arts and cultural mores. I have allied myself with a group of similar, if cruder beings, each taking on a number from 1 to 9 where we have survived within a virtual wasteland together for 7 years (of my 17 year existence within this form). Whilst making my home amongst them, I crafted for myself a pair of knickers and jack-boots out of the human habit of keeping myself covered which I retained even in this life. I also sewed together a black vest and a pair of black finger-lacking gloves to cover the customized zipper adorning my torso and most of my golden hands respectively, as well as manufacturing a miniature pair of flight-goggles I skillfully molded from rubble in case of successes with the aerodynamic technology I worked daily on creating. One day within our compound whilst a cool breeze blew nuclear fallout throughout the air in a morbidly beautiful way, I passed by no. 7.
"Hello." she said.
"Pleasant seeing you today." I responded.
Though her cheeks were clothen, I could notice the slightest red tinge of a blush as the impatient no. 2 called me back to my work.
"You adulterous heathens would be wise to cover your respective shames at this instant!" - I turned to see that the voice came from none other than no. 1!
- In other words, Edward Scissorhands, but less peaceable and more soul-sucky.
Knowing everything was going to die, the Scientist created the stitchpunks to continue the culture and emotions of humanity once the poison gas hit. 1, 7, and 8 were supposed to protect group until the last of the machines had stopped functioning, 3 and 4 were supposed to retain the culture and knowledge necessary to restart a civilization, and 2 and 5 were supposed to physically build that civilization. 9, having a little of each in him, was supposed to be a general helper. Since he was the last created, he was entrusted with the talisman in case any of the other stitchpunks had been already caught and had their souls sucked out. It was never intended to be put BACK into the Fabrication Machine once the machine had gone offline. Once the stitchpunks had the beginnings of civilization preserved, they would live out their lives and eventually run down. Their life force would return to the earth via the soil/water/whatever covered their bodies when they ran down, and restart evolution with cells and such. Eventually, something would evolve that was intelligent enough to understand the preserved scraps of humanity, and civilization would get a little jump-start and continue from there.
- 1 represents the Chancellor, since 1 acts as a leader, albeit a not so good one, and although 9 reactivated the Fabrication Machine, the Chancellor was the one who had it built in his arrogance, and blamed the Scientist for it turning on humanity, and 1 is the most responsible for the internal conflict that occurs within the Stitchpunks, mostly with 9 and 7.
- 2 represents the Scientist's parents, as they taught the Scientist growing up, and 2 acts as a temporary mentor figure towards 9, and is overall very kind towards him. It was likely they were very old when they had him, as 2 is mentioned to be the oldest of the Stitchpunks. When the war first broke out, they were probably the Fabrication Machine's first victims. In the short film however, this could apply to 5.
- 3 and 4 represent the Scientist's two children, as they are said to be twins, and the historian part is that the Scientist taught them almost everything his parents taught him, and they were respectively 3 and 4 when the war broke out. They were capable of speech, but preferred not to, since the Scientist taught them that actions speak louder than words.
- 5 represents the Scientist's doctor, an inventor who spent most of his free time around the Scientist hanging out with him whenever he felt like it, almost like a best friend to him, but was blind in one eye, yet didn't mind it. 9 spends most of the film around 5, who acts as a best friend role for 9, and also has one eye. The doctor part is self-explanatory.
- 6 represents a friend of the Scientist who was an aspiring artist that was mentally unstable, and spent most of his time trying to draw masterpieces that has a meaning to them, but was plagued by nightmares that led to his instability, and the war made it all worse, completely dashing his dream.
- 7 represents the Scientist's wife, who was a tomboyish friend of the Scientist growing up, althought she wasn't a Tsundere. The two of them later fell in love, and married. His wife was also a world championship boxer who went on to compete in the Olympics, which explains 7's fighter nature, and was the most close to the Scientist, and defended him from the Chancellor during the war with a "The Reason You Suck" Speech aimed at the Chancellor.
- 8 represents the Scientist's wife's brother, who was also a sporty man, and was rather on good terms with the Scientist, but didn't trust him internally, and threatened the Scientist with brutalization if he didn't treat his sister right. When she found out, she scolded him for it, and threatened him if he didn't leave the Scientist alone. He was also a world championship wrestler who also competed in the Olympics with his sister, and gave the two his blessing at their wedding, since the Scientist had earned his trust by cheering the two of them on, and stood by his sister during the war, in the hope that it would make up for not being there for the Scientist when the Chancellor blamed him.
- And last but not least, 9 represents the Scientist himself, as a person who was driven by questions growing up, and remained fearless most of his life, and was remarkably intelligent, since he was the one who made the Fabrication Machine when it was called the B.R.A.I.N, and constantly confronted the Chancellor before the war broke out, earning himself a enemy, like most of 9's interactions with 1. 9 is also the least flawed of the Stitchpunks, as the positive traits of the Scientist's personality. The Scientist placed him with the burden of restoring life to the planet, as the Scientist felt incredibly guilty for the Fabrication Machine's creation, and kitted the Stitchpunk souls with eukaryotic and prokaryotic cells in order to recreate life.
- Only reading about the idea in a fanfic, maybe the gas finally made way to him, and he was prepared for the idea he wouldn't last after 9's creation.
- is Government.
- is Industry.
- is Academia.
- is Education.
- is Exploration.
- is Religion.
- is The Military.
- is Law Enforcement.
- is humanity itself, the element that makes the others more than just institutions.
99 red balloons floating in the summer sky/Panic bells, it's red alert/There's something here from somewhere else/The war machine springs to life/Opens up one eager eye/Focusing it on the sky/Where 99 red balloons go by./
99 Decision Street, 99 ministers meet/To worry, worry, super-scurry/Call the troops out in a hurry/This is what we've waited for/This is it boys, this is war/The president is on the line/As 99 red balloons go by./
99 Knights of the air/ride super-high-tech jet fighters/Everyone's a Superhero/Everyone's a Captain Kirk/With orders to identify/To clarify and classify/Scramble in the summer sky/As 99 red balloons go by./
99 dreams I have had/In every one a red balloon/It's all over and I'm standin' pretty/In this dust that was a city/If I could find a souvenier/Just to prove the world was here.../And here is a red balloon/I think of you and let it go/
- You know what? This actually makes sense!
- To add on, the twins found a book (or at least a portion of one) on the alchemy the scientist used to make them all. He can't be the only one who at least tried it out.
- At least the first five (and probably the first seven or even all eight) were around while the humans were still warring. I did always assume that the stitchpunks observed time differently from humans, but that would more likely be because they didn't have fifteen or twenty years to grow to maturity and were sprung fully formed from the Paracelsus Machine itself. To them as of two years of age for the older ones, two years is a lifetime, and half a year difference in age is a quarter of a lifetime dofference. Their perception of time being different the way a six-year-old's perception is different from a 12-year-old, rather than how a mayfly would percieve time differently from a High Elf. And just out of curiosity, which influences are you referencing?
- Actually, if the stitchpunks properly maintained their systems, they might have the capability to live a very long time, perhaps over a thousand years.
- Plus, nothing is decomposing because all of the organisms that would usually break stuff down got killed with the poison gas. So it could have been a fairly long time between when, say, 8 was made & when 9 was made. They don't age, so it would be hard to tell.
- Jossed: Word of God says the film takes place about fifty years after the war. Judging by how limber and youthful many of them still are, it seems stitchpunks can go for at least the same amount of time as humans, if not even longer.
- Hope you're right
- The Chancellor and the BnL CEO produced very similar news blurbs, though those belonging to the former are a more militaristic.
- Though WALLE states that the humans left earth because they had polluted it, the CEO does put on a gas mask just before leaving during the secret message—the life on earth in 9 was also killed with gas.
- And, most damningly, the Fab machine◊ and AUTO◊ look a hell of a lot alike, perhaps implying that they both have their genesis in the same technology. From what we've seen of B&L's mass-producing business standards, something like the Fabrication Machine would probably be immensely valuable.
- If B&L is like Walmart and produces the bulk of its products in less developed nations, that might help to explain the Schizo Tech if the movies are compared side by side.
- 1s are strict, assertive, and very set on right versus wrong/knowing what's best and hold good intentions but can become zealous Knight Templars.
- 2s are warm, affectionate, generous, prone to putting others before themselves, and would be the type most likely to greet a lone stranger in an apocalyptic wasteland with "Wait - I'm a friend!"
- 3s are ambitious and attracted to beautiful/glamourous/prestigious things.
- 4s are philosophical and romantic/artistic. 3 and 4 are of course a little tougher to call anything on, but perhaps some sort of link could be made out of the fact that they were researching human culture and history hunting understanding of the past.
- 5s are thoughtful and analytical but dislike getting wrapped up in things and the less well-adjusted ones might "think too much" and develop overly cautious, neurotic, shy, and awkward tendencies, though as a result of that can get very attached to the friends they do make.
- 6s are anxious and potentially escapist and childish but highly dedicated and woven into their groups.
- 7s are daring, free-spirited, fun, enthusiastic, productive when motivated, and possibly reckless.
- 8s are most likely to be The Big Guy out of the types and may throw their weights around.
- 9s are diplomatic, soft-spoken, patient, easygoing, and at least try to play the role of The Heart.
There are also bonuses in predicted dynamics between types - 1s and 2s may be at odds with each other as 1s tend to be rigid and harsh where 2s are decidedly not; 5s and 2s can make for the best of friends as 5s tend to be considered as uncomfortable opening up to others; 7s and 9s may be endeared to each other on basis that both are generally positive and balance each other with the fact that 7s are straightforward and go-getters while 9s are more laid-back and peaceful; etc.
The stitchpunks are all the same person, but anyone has some mix of traits associated with each type. That 1, 2, and 9 were the most influential members of the group could suggest that the Scientist's type and wing were out of those three. Looking at what is actually known about him, he was once a toymaker (putting smiles on kids' faces - something a 2 or 9 might enjoy?), obviously created the B.R.A.I.N. for the sake of technological advancement and enriching humanity (1?), and was so mortified at the war that he blamed himself for it and killed himself to split his soul into the stitchpunks to atone, keep life going, and make whatever amends possible (any of the three?).
- 9 is where it begins, Machinarium is the evolution of sentient robots that live in a still-battered world filled with human garbage and their own. Robots takes place centuries later, where the planet's been cleaned up and everyone's living peacefully... or so it seems.
- I'm betting that she once looked up to them as father figures. She was even able to keep that kind relationship with 2. However, after seeing how 1 abandoned 5 when he had fallen, and how he forced them to stay in the cathedral, she grew more distant and bitter toward him, until finally she left. When she learns that HE was the one who caused the death of 2, she's even more pissed at him, and it hurts her all the more because one of her past father figures had sent the other to his death.