Follow TV Tropes


WMG / A Man of Iron

Go To

    open/close all folders 

     Character Guesses 
Ned has the power of foresight
Jon mentions that Ned once told him he would get the feeling he was going to die if he did something, and instead tried something else that allowed him to live.
  • Actually, Ned says it's something that can happen to anyone in a situation where they know they are going to die, even in cases where they can't actually do anything about it, such as with the old farmer who got caught under a tree he had cut down and died, which was the incident that sparked the conversation with Jon.

The Mandarin is a Former High Born
Given he's one of Iron Man's most iconic foes, it only makes sense the Mandarin will appear at some point. In this world, he'll be a former leader of a High Born family from the East whose clan was crushed as part of the Rebellion (much like Vanko's). His power lost and on the run, this man would eventually find an ancient temple hiding ten rings of power (perhaps lost by Asgardians or a special creation of long-ago magic users) that he uses to rebuild himself. He has bided his time in hiding but hearing of the chaos in Westeros, he will take advantage to create his new empire.

The Mandarin is another ruse like in Iron Man 3
Playing off the twist in that movie, the Mandarin is a person who believes in his own ways, but in actuality, he's being backed by Renly as a way to undercut all the other crowns by going for their finances and leaning on the Iron Bank. And since Tony is heading there on behalf of the Lannisters, it's a perfect time for the more clear message of Renly naming himself the author of all Tony's pain, and proclaiming, "I AM THE MANDARIN!"

Littlefinger's true masters
Instead of just out for power for himself, Littlefinger is actually an agent of a sinister force, long hidden for centuries. They've bided their time, laying down the seeds but are now preparing to finally strike. At the proper time, the Goldcloaks and other soldiers across Westeros (including among Ned's armies) will suddenly show their true allegiances and strike with their mantra: Hail Hydra.
  • Given that it's been implied that Steve Rogers is Azor Ahai, and his canon history with HYDRA, perhaps they're a cult of Les Collaborateurs who serve the Others in exchange for being spared (like Craster), and the Night's Queen will reach out to them as part of her plans.

Mystique has already recruited at least another of Robert's bastards, or plans to.
She has already grabbed Gendry, who is clearly going to be Colossus: if someone's going to be Magik (Ilyana Rasputin) it'll be one of his half-sisters. For extra fun, she may be named (or take the nickname of) Lyanna.

Logan's daughter is actually Lyanna Mormont
The vision in which the girl appears looks very similar to Bear Island, and her physical description fits. Also, Maege Mormont never married nor named a father for any of her daughters. And Logan's amnesia means he could have traveled anywhere before ending with Drogo's khalasar.
  • A hint in this direction is Jeor grousing he doesn't know any of his nieces' father's names, expect for Lyanna's: Jayms. Just like James Howlett.

Whether composited with an ASOIAF character or not the fic's X-23 equivalent will be composited with Jimmy Hudson.
For those who don't know Jimmy is the son of Ultimate Wolverine who grew up normally having been entrusted to a friend of Logan before his powers emerged. This is more feasible for the technology level of the story than a clone with altered genetics.
  • Probably. If Lyanna Mormont truly is an expy for X-23, then she's the natural-born daughter of Maege Mormont who enjoys taking lovers but never married.

will become the Westeros equivalent of Dr. Strange.His hands have been heavily maimed by wildfyre and he will likely never be able to use them again, and the explosion on the Blackwater that's unlocked so many powers might give him magic.
  • Probably confirmed. In chapter 50, Tyrion reveals his intent to travel to Essos in order to search for a way to fix his hands. While he hasn't met the Ancient One, donned the Cloak of Levitation or wore the Eye of Agamotto yet, it's safe to say Tyrion is on his way to being Sorcerer Supreme.
  • More evidence for this, in Catelyn's first POV in A Shield of Man, she sees Tyrion in her dream foreshadowing herself to be The Phoenix.

More Marvel characters will become a part of Daenerys' Queensguard
It would certainly help fill the vacant spots from canon, and to allow more interactions with other Marvel characters.

The Black Order are part of The Court
It wouldn't be surprising thanks to the recent revelations concerning Thanos. Maybe they lead the regular Others and its Wights in the name of the Mad Titan.
  • Possibly confirmed, as Steve states that the Court's elite guard are known as the White Order. Considering the Court is led by Thanos, it's rather obvious that they're meant to be the same group.

Asha will become Nebula
When caught by Euron Greyjoy who has become the story's equivalent to Ronan, he is mentioned to be using his knives on her scalp as he mentions that he will remake her to serve his king, much like Nebula was when Thanos (the story's equivalent of the Night's King) captured her.

Kamala will have a sightly different last name.
The last name Khan is derived from the word for leader in mongolian, and since the world of westeros doesn't have mongols the name will have to be from their closest equivalent, the dothraki. Instead of Kamala Khan, her name would be Kamala Khal.

Cersei becomes The Shadow Queen
It looks like the purple energy blade she now bears will make Cersei a version of Psylocke. However, it seems unlikely given she's never been an athletic figure and is just gaining weight (not to mention how she's nowhere near as smart as she thinks she is). Thus, it's more likely Cersei becomes a version of the Shadow King, using her new abilities to get ahead... and no doubt finding a way to muck it all up.

Robb Stark is Iceman
Jojen Reed mentions that one of his green dreams showed the sea being turned to ice. This itself is prophetic of the Starks defeating the Greyjoys, but maybe this is a little more literal and the Ironborn will turned into actual ice. If anyone is going to be Iceman, it’ll be a Stark and with Robb having fled the Ironborn attack on Winterfell, he’s in the perfect position to do. Also, given that the Ironborn using energy swords, ice powers will be the perfect counter.
  • Possibly Jossed: During the Battle of Blackwater Bay, Tyrion mentions hearing the report of a squire that turned into living ice.
  • This troper is 90% sure that particular vision is from Robb Returns, not this series.

Sandor will become the Executioner.

Traditional Game of Thrones villains that are not merged with Marvel villains will be pushed out of significance by their more powerful rivals.
We're already seeing it happen; Ramsey was killed by Vanko, Hela has been more of a threat than Joffrey and Cersei in King's Landing and Vanko's actions have forced Balon to abandon his plans of conquest.

The Reed Siblings will be composite characters with the Maximoff Siblings (Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver).
Bran is implied to eventually become the Vision. And his origin story has ties to the Maximoff siblings in the MCU adaptation Age of Ultron, which a good chunk of the fic is based on. Plus, Meera has a certain implicit attraction to Bran in canon, just as Wanda and Vision do explicitly.

Likewise, the Three-eyed Raven will be Ultron, who will either be an anti-hero or anti-villain in the continuity rather than a straight-up antagonist.
Face it, he has ties to Vision's backstory. Besides, Ultron has been mentioned as a Valyrian demon. He likely does exist. And canon Bloodraven has ties to House Targaryen.

Jaime will become a version of Captain Britain
With hints of Cersei taking on some of Psylocke's characteristics, Jaime hasn't been given a Marvel equivalent yet. And with so many of the "main characters" of Game of Thrones now getting a composite with Marvel characters, Jaime needs to get one now too. The "original" Captain Britain, Brian Braddock, is the brother of Psylocke, so that's one connection. But in addition, part of Captain Britain's origin was being given a choice between taking a Sword of Might or an Amulet of Right. In more recent X-Men history, both Braddock siblings have gotten the sword and amulets, and both have a history as Captain Britain. But in making HIS choice, we will see how worthy of redemption Jaime might be.

Deadpool has minor Greensight
Breaking the Fourth Wall just means that you know about what's going on right now. However, Wade seems to anticipate coming events rather than jump in just to snark at Chaos. This seems to indicate that he's got some future sight to tie into an in-universe reason for his deadpooliness. Which will prove interesting down the line if his breaks start to clash with the visions Jojen has.

Deadpool once killed a man with a wagon pulled by a diseased donkey while laughing.
He killed someone with a Zamboni in the movie. Seems like Chaos to toss in a nod to that. Deadpool will acknowledge this, saying, "And yes, Chaos did this to my backstory as a reference to that Zamboni scene in that incarnation of me. He loves these shout-out things too much!"

Samwell Tarly will become Wong
He's still traveling with Tyrion, and it's mentioned he's really smart already. Plus, with the hands issue, and him being Tyrion's Number Two, it seems like a logical path forward. And, it can give him a new way to push forward his Cowardly Lion character arc in turning Sam into a Determinator even if he's never going to be the same warrior his friends might be.

There is a Professor X analog somewhere in the story
And one of the fun gimmicks of using him will be contrasting perspectives on who he is. For the Brotherhood, he's a fool and an obstacle for Arya. For X Force, he's an ally to guide Dany's quest. For Tony? Maybe an equal to match wits with. But regardless, one of Chaos's fun parts of writing will be figuring out how to capture these varied perspectives for 1 character without true bias.

Catelyn Stark will perform a Heroic Sacrifice for her children at the end of the series
In a play on how Arya took down the Night's King by surprise, this time it will be Catelyn working to redeem herself to the children whom she failed. With the power of the Phoenix Force, she will stop the king of Ice with the fires of the heavens, giving her life to stop Winter, and show Jon, Arya and Sansa Stark that when the chips come down, she would do all she can for her family.

Robb Stark becomes a Mantis analog
While the Guardians are already established by Rickon, Robb hasn't gotten his composite character yet. And you need some Marvel character if you want to stick around in this story.

Robb and Roslin will become Adam Warlock and Mantis
The northern story is starting to lean more heavily into the Marvel space zone, and with Robb beginning to learn leadership, there are a limited amount of leader heroes in that part of marvel, so it's unlikely to make him someone like Silver Surfer. However, one theme building is that the Starks are beginning to line up in becoming Thanos's greatest enemies, with Gamora, Drax, Yondu, Star Lord and Iron Man all with the Starks already with things like Vision also waiting in the wings. So, for Robb and his wife to become additional Guardians would be fitting.
  • Roslin could also become Quasar, given her strong demeanor and the way she's part of the Stark family by marriage now.

Jon will become The Exile after his time in King's Landing
No matter how much Jon has learned from Tony on how to play politics and keep the Secret Identity in the process, playing in King's Landing against such titans as the Olennas, The Tywins, The Cerseis and the Jofferys is going to be too much. However, Unlike his Uncle Ned, Jon will leave in self imposed Exile, helping from the shadows rather than living into the political realm.

We will have Steve Rodgers as the Sergeant Rock of the Wall
As he returns to the wall, things are a mess, and without Jon there to help, it probably hasn't improved all that much. However, Steve by his nature won't be accepted as commander by this point. Instead, he'll become the new drill sergeant, and in that way, work his way to kick the Wall into shape to prepare for Thanos. After all, he's a living representative of the legends being true.

Arya's overall arc will be leading into a series of Sadistic Choices
Arya sees the world simply as a child. She just wanted to survive and not be seen as a "lady". She followed that survival into the hands of The Brotherhood, where she was given power and a team of seeming True Companions. However, there is a problem. Namely, she's an X-Man working with the Brotherhood of Mutants. And the pull of Canon will force her to make choices that no child should have to. Choosing between love and friendship. Choosing between morals and the group flow. Choosing between her blood family and her found family. Because no matter how Marvely the Song of Metal and Marvels gets, Arya's Coming-of-Age Story is learning to better understand the world, and understand where the conflicts of interest effect her.

     Story WMG 
The Night's Queen
will create an Others-worshipping cult.Showing herself as Sansa and being able to heal grave injuries - such as Sandor Clegane's fire-scarred face - might make people think the Seven sent her back, and she could easily guide them towards a more apocalyptic cult, acting as a sort of a fifth-column for the Others.
  • Partially confirmed. While she doesn't seem to be making a cult, she does appear to be brainwashing/turning people into more intelligent wights in order to manipulate King's Landing.

Jon will take Petyr Parker as his squire
Spiderman Homecoming is going to be one of the plot lines adapted to A Shield of Man, and one of the biggest plot points of that movie is Peter being Tony's protegee. Well, Tony's going to be staying at Iron Pointe, but another Stark is on his way to King's Landing, and Petyr is the right age to be taken in as a squire (even more so if he got hit by the magic wave during the Battle of the Blackwater).

Tywin will turn against Joffrey and betray him.
Thanks to the majority of Joffrey's actions, the Lannisters and the Crown are in a far worse position than they were in canon. With Robb's marriage to Roslin Frey, and Ramsay's death, the Freys and Boltons can no longer be turned against the Starks in this story, so the canon Godzilla Threshold Tywin took, the Red Wedding can no longer happen. What's more, he's not dealing with Robb Stark here, who is relatively inexperienced with betrayal and politics compared to his father, but Eddard Stark, who, while not as experienced as Tywin, fought in Robert's Rebellion and is far warier of traitors now than he was in canon. To make matters worse, Tywin likely will likely find out from Ulysses Klaue, who is experimenting with sunstones, Iron Pointe metal, and possibly silver, how the Iron Man armor works and, thus, how Antony Stark is the Iron Man.

With the consideration that Antony saved his cousin Ned, and sought to avenge Sansa by maiming Joffrey, he will realize that Antony is loyal to his family, and thus, that even if they manage to defeat Ned, Antony will potentially swoop in to avenge his family, and decimate his armies. Even if they were to create their own Iron Man armors to combat Tony, odds are Tony will be prepared for such an event, as he displayed enough cleverness in both deflecting suspicions that he was the Iron Man and convincing Tywin to give him Iron Pointe, and may have even created an Iron Legion already, something the audience knows is true, with the multitude of armors he's made and the number of loyalists he has, and the fact that despite the risk of discovery of the sunstones' abilities, he still sold them. And in addition, if they try to neutralize Jon as a threat, they will also have to contend with Natasha Martell, whom if they make a move against, will worsen already tense relations with Dorne, and potentially lead to a war on both the northern and southern ends. And even if by some miracle, they manage to defeat both Antony and Ned, and ensure Jon and Natasha don't turn against them without drawing Dorne into the war, the prolonged conflict would risk weakening and thinning the Lannisters' armies, leaving the Seven Kingdoms vulnerable to being retaken by Baratheon forces at either Stannis or Renly's hands (they don't know Stannis is dead and that he can't return, or what Renly could be up to).\\\

As such, Tywin will eventually give a far fiercer "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Joffrey at a Small Council meeting than any such speech he gave to Joffrey in canon, even raising his voice the way he did to Cersei when insisting that she marry Loras Tyrell. The Night's Queen, ever the manipulator, will pit Joffrey and Tywin against each other, making it a minor and discreet example of a Cock Fight (she has managed to seduce Tywin by pretending to be Joanna Lannister), convincing Tywin to kill Joffrey, sue for peace, abandon the war, and return to Casterly Rock, while convincing simpleminded Joffrey to kill Tywin in the open, where Tywin will be luring him out by appearing to desert. Joffrey will try to order his men to kill Tywin for treason, but before they do, they choose not to, both out of fear of Tywin, and out of realization from a speech Tywin gives then and there, that they have no chance of winning the war, and that their only chance to survive it, is by giving the North the vengeance they desire. As such, Tywin succeeds in turning Joffrey's men against their king out of fear, and kill him.

One of the spiders will die
To emphasize the fragility of Westeros, and the danger these teenagers took on, one of the spiders will be killed fighting Vulture. My guess would be Miles to push his father's story forward. Plus, it would be an inversion of how both Petyr and Gwen have died in the past, so it's his turn to die according to the author.

This fic will have a very different end compared with the TV Series
The ending of the show was...controversial. And the books aren't done (and may never be?) Given that Marvel now has its fingerprints in this world, with heroes arising, magic and magitek becoming a manmade answer to the dragons of old, and the Night King's ways given a much different vibe. Plus a variety of characters living, dying and changing as they get the Marvel hand. I see the end of the story being quite different from how Game of Thrones ended. Perhaps uniting all the factions against the existential threat the Night King is, all the factions remaining uniting for a new version of the battle of Winterfell. Following it, and having created a new national solidarity in protecting all the realms, a great council will be called. Probably with a different king put on the throne who was worthy and lead them in solidarity, brains and honor. But with a new understanding that the common folk of the kingdoms need more than a lord to protect them, the kingdoms also establish a new national council to safeguard the land: The Avengers.

Once the Avengers assemble for the first time, bards will sing a song of the Avengers that is a lightly modified version of the theme for The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
  • When the Avengers come together for the first time to fight a common enemy, it will not be Thanos/The Night King/Others, but someone else. Thus, the song is born in this story. The original song refers to the Avengers in the first person, but once bards sing it, it will be in the third person, because the bards aren't Avengers and it wouldn't make sense for them to sing in the first person.

A Shield of Man is going to do versions of both Iron Man 3 and The Avengers
Three forces are slowly beginning to converge on Braavos. 3 kingdoms with greatly different backgrounds, but great dedication to try and do right by Westeros. A man named The Mandarin is making plots at the Iron Bank's door. And into all this, there's a chance that Iron Man, She-Hulk, and Firestar can meet, agree to unite against a common foe, and begin the first seeds of The Avengers.

The King's Landing section of A Shield Of Man will have adaptations of Spider-Man: Homecoming AND Captain America: The Winter Soldier
The Vulture King is one key component. But the other is the fact that a noble hero has come to the capital, where there's intrigue and suspicion, meeting up with a man named Sam. There's japing prepared to poke at the existing system, while also a transition of his thought process on how to interact with the world around him. Plus, if the author is going to keep to the 7 book structure as well as tapping into a multitude of the 21 marvel films, there's going to be some condensation and fusing of the stories into something new.

The story will end in the breakup of the Seven Kingdoms
Though they fought the Others as brothers, the scars from the War of the Five Crowns run too deep, and so the kingdoms dissolve, leaving the land fractured, but more locally attentive without the neglects or abuses King's Landing had before.

The series will end with the establishment of the Westeros Commonwealth
That like the Commonwealth, the Iron Throne will lose much of its power, but that they nominally hold it as "head of state", creating a different kind of compromise compared with what was created in the series.

     Setting WMG 
Wakanda is industrialized
It makes sense Wakanda will show up as one of the "southern lands." It will be mentioned it's good for mining but not much else and a quiet if backward people. In reality, behind this facade, the nation is far more advanced than the rest of Westeros, matching what would be the early Industrial Revolution era. Thus, when the Black Panther arrives, it'll be easy for even Tony to believe the man is using magic when in reality, it's technology, something the rest of this world has yet to grasp but Wakandans use easily.

The Lord of Light is a Demon.
The Lord of Light is associated with fire and resurrecting the dead, which seems more demonic than divine. Mephisto, Surt and Blackheart are all suitable candidates. Maybe he is trying to get as many mortal souls as possible before the world dies. Mephisto was a major character in the original Infinity Gauntlet story line and the title of the book series is A Song of Ice (White Walkers) and Fire (dragons in the book, demons in this guess).

The Seven Hells will appear.
The Seven Hells is a good opportunity to explore pieces of the Marvel cosmology and to explore a twisted reflection of Westeros and human nature. The Seven Hells would be ruled by seven Hell lords: Mephisto, Surt, Dormammu, Cyttorak, Hela (or Cinder, Surt's daughter, if Chaos doesn't want to draw on Hela for two characters), Chthon and Set. Each can reflect a part how we think of the devil. Mephisto the Swindler, Surt the Doom-like monster, Dormammu the cosmic horror, Cyttorak the Corrupter, Hela the Ice Queen, Chthon the Decadent mortal with great power and Set the ancient evil. You can even go full Dante and have each Hell House full of different kinds of sinners. All of them would be competing for the throne and title of Satan. Competing for a throne and title and causing untold suffering because of it, sound familiar?

The story is the result of one of the 14,000,604 timelines Strange saw in Avengers: Infinity War where they lost.
The story still plays out much like the events that Infinity War and Endgame played out, EXCEPT, Tony didn't remove the stones from the gauntlet when 2014 Thanos snapped his fingers in Endgame, and he succeeded in using the stones. However, Tony installed a failsafe into his nano gauntlet to control the result of the snaps, and while it couldn't stop Thanos from creating a new reality, it was able to prevent the current reality from being erased. The result is that, to reconcile the nano gauntlet AI's and Thanos' wills, the alternate MCU timeline ended up getting merged with other realities, namely a TV show Game of Thrones alternate timeline universe, as well as some Marvel Comics and other Marvel television series to produce the current reality. This is why Jojen and Rickon were able to perceive the main TV show timeline - because it was the original reality that they existed in.

The Infinity Stones are hidden in key locations across the story.
Seeing as how the Night's King was said to a wield a gauntlet of infinite power, yet has done nothing with them at this point in the story, it is likely that it requires the Infinity Stones, of which he does not have the majority of. So the question remains, where are the stones?
  • It's possible that one of them is located in the Westerlands, near Iron Pointe, which is why there are Sunstones there. Considering the nature of the Sunstones, the potential stone there could be the Power Stone.
    • While this whole idea isn't Jossed, the bit about it being the Power Stone is, as the first appearance of Euron (who is a Composite Character with Ronan) notes that he has something glowing purple (clearly the stone) in place of his missing eye.
  • The Three-Eyed Raven, Beyond the Wall, may have the Mind Stone, as he needs to expand Bran Stark's mental abilities, and remake him into the Vision.
  • Another stone may be located in Winterfell, and may have contributed to Winterfell's construction at the location and/or the portal that pulled in Rickon. If so, it might be either the Reality or Space Stone.
  • If the stone in Winterfell is the Reality Stone, then the Space Stone might be in Slaver's Bay, in either Yunkai or Meereen. Dany will find it in someplace, hidden from everyone who lived there, and use it to expedite her conquest of the Seven Kingdoms or stabilize her rule of Slaver's Bay.

Traditional versions of at least some heroes may appear later.
Particularly Spider heroes, with the introduction of Petyr, Gwen and Miles it is possible they could, at least tangentally, get pulled into a Spider-Verse style event, bringing them into contact with their non-westerosi counterparts. Alternatively many marvel characters have had cross dimensional adventures, and could randomly wind up popping up in Westeros.

There's something special about the Tyrell Tombs.
While Adrian is convinced that the Tyrells are only forcing his family to keep guarding the Tombs in order to keep them down, Tywin seems certain that there's some higher reason. And given the law of narrative casualty, he's probably right. So, what could be locked away in those tombs that are so important?
  • One of the Infinity Stones.
  • A Sealed Evil in a Can.
  • Blade (or some other vampire characters)
  • A gateway to monsteroplis, city of monsters.

     Outside primary sources guesses 
The Doctor will appear
The Lonely God story was mentioned recently, and Marvel UK did publish Doctor Who comics. If the Night King has the Infinity Gauntlet, they would need a time expert on hand.

     Who wins the Game of the Iron Throne? 
We have basic blueprints already laid out for us for general Marvel-ness and general game of throneness. But when you put the 2 together, who do you see winning the Game of Thrones at the end of the series?
  • Ned Stark. Having survived canon, and coming to understand why his background has turned him into a good king after all, the end of the struggle has the punctuation of putting The Good King and the muggle king on the throne to oversee this new age of Metal and Marvels.
  • Jon Stark. Learning and growing, the true heir apparent retakes his birthright after learning all the lessons of his uncle Tony, his wife Natasha, and the many perspectives of others.
  • Tyrion. The new king of the Metal and Marvels will be a man dealing with how The Magic Comes Back. Having Dr. Strange as that king with a sharp mind and a cool temper would make for a last laugh for the distant relative of Steve Rodgers.
  • Jaime Lannister: Regaining his honor in his own and in the world's eyes, becoming the Westeros version of Captain Britain, and proving the Lannisters truly honorable and atoning for their actions in Robert's Rebellion.
  • Daenerys Firestar: The last of the Targaryens, regaining the family honor by the journey she took, and the council of X-Force along the way.
  • Bran the Visionary: With a bit more character growth, and the wisdom of the Three-Eyed Raven, Bran becomes a compromise king, with the view to lead Westeros into a new age of Marvels.
  • Erik Blackfyre: In a come from behind victory, the man with true personal power finds a way to take the throne for himself and mutants.
  • Cersei. Because though the others thought her a fool, her own kind of cruel cunning found a way to pull a cruel victory from defeat.
  • Robb Stark: Having grown and learned, Robb accidentally falls into the role of King by growing in the same way his cousin Jon did. Only he actually wants it.

Loki is disguised as Melisandre.
Loki can become a woman, and he is sometimes associated with fire. And Melisandre looks at Jane with hatred after she welcomes Thor.
  • Also, Jane notices that Melisandre always burns the idols of the Seven, who are based off of the Asgardians, in a specific order, starting with the goddesses, then the Stranger, then the Father, before burning either the Warrior or the Smith. She seems to stare at the last two for a while, and Jane thinks it looks like she's trying to decide which one would hurt less to burn, implying she actually knows who the Seven actually are. It should be noted that the Warrior is actually based off of Thor, while the Smith is said to be Balder with Thor's hammer. She also liked to stare at Jane even before Thor showed up.
  • Though she could also be The Enchantress, considering she hates it when Thor pays attention to Jane and appears to dislike burning the idols that are based off of Thor. There's also the constant references to Melisandre being "an enchantress".
  • Another possibility is Lorelei, the Enchantress' sister, a redhead who manipulates men easily which would fit Melisandre quite well.
  • Appears jossed as Book 2, Chapter 7 has Thor telling Jane he believes Melisandre is an Asgardian but not Loki.
  • Definitely Jossed. Melisandre is eventually revealed to actually be Amora... and Loki is actually Davos.

Alternatively, Arya is Rogue
She and Mystique have already formed a strong adoptive mother/daughter bond, much like Mystique did with Rogue in the comics, and the ability to absorb the memories and abilities of others could be a nod to canon-Arya's efforts to become a Faceless Man.
  • Jossed.

Varys is this story's version of Black Widow
Both are master spies who are nicknamed after spiders, both are masters of disguise, Mr Chaos said there is a chance Black Widow may show up, and she hasn't yet, even though Thor Odinsson has, despite him saying they wouldn't, and he's also stated that Captain America will show up, despite also saying he wouldn't, both on the same page as the one where he said Black Widow and Hawkeye might show up (and Hawkeye has). Also, Both work with Nick Fury and for the Council.
  • That, or MCU!Fury, who we know also exists alongside Gerion/616!Fury in this universe, will show up with her in tow. Or she is a high-ranking agent of Varys'
  • Jossed. Natasha has appeared as Oberyn Martell's eldest and legitimized daughter, the Black Widow of Dorne and Jon Stark's future wife
    • The high-ranking agent of Varys and/or the Council theory may not be Jossed yet, as Chapter 18 of A Crack of Thunder reveals that either she has some connection to the Council and the Brotherhood, or Oberyn has a connection to them (or is at least somewhat aware of them)
    • Chapter 38 reveals that Natasha is indeed an agent of the Council.

The Lord of Light is actually Loki
And they created the religion to get back at the Asgardians for whatever reason, hence the burning ceremony. Or they simply founded it and never claimed to actually be the Lord of Light.
  • Jossed. Loki is Davos Seaworth, and in fact considers R'hollor's religion a joke.

Jane will either become a female Thor or Valkyrie.
  • Jossed. Jane is Jotun/Asgardian due to her father being Loki. Though she might decide to become a Valkyrie as they were never wiped out in this continuity.

Loki didn't come back because he is trying to stop the Others.
  • Jossed. He didn't come back because he was content living as Davos.

Theon Greyjoy is Loki's mortal form.
In the comics, Thor's alias Donald Blake was actually the human body he was born into when Odin decided to give him a lesson. Loki could very well pull that kind of stuff. Also, his storyline and Loki's bear many similitudes: both of them have a dual identity - Theon being an Ironborn raised in the North and Loki being a Frost Giant raised in Asgard, both of them are considered "soft" - Theon for not paying the Iron Price, Loki for using magic, Asgard and the Iron Islands are strongly inspired by Norse mythology, both have Butt-Monkey-tendences and desesperately crave acceptance of their adoptive family while thinking they will never have it. It should be interesting when Theon will meet Thor - which should be soon if Dragonstone's envoy still contacts Renly at the same time than the Starks'.
  • Probably jossed by Thor stating that Loki's been in Westeros for thirty years, roughly twice Theon's life.
  • Loki was able to de-age himself, obtaining a clean record in the process, so don't write it off yet.
  • Jossed in Chapter 9 of A Crack of Thunder. Theon himself shows no sign nor possibility of being Loki.
  • Definitely Jossed with the reveal that Loki was actually Davos.

Loki is with the Others
We know that the Asgardians, or at least Thor, fought the Others during the Long Night, which combined with their power set would make them clear stand-ins for the Frost Giants. And what is Loki by birth? Odds are he somehow ended up north of the Wall, learned of his true origins, and took a place among them. Maybe even as the Night's King (assuming the latter isn't being kept to his canon origin).
  • Jossed, Loki was with Stannis under his human disguise of Davos.

Jaime will end up on the Wall
It's been stated that Jaime's story, influenced by the fact that Mystique is impersonating him, is going to be important in Book 3, which Mr. Chaos has stated is also where we'll finally see events on and beyond the Wall. Sending Jaime there would be a good way to combine those storylines, especially as Jaime wouldn't have anywhere else to go thanks to his family thinking he's the imposter.
  • Going by Jojen Reed's comments, Jaime may end up being the one to accompany Bran in his travel north to meet the Three Eyed Crow.
  • Jossed in Book 2 Chapter 39. Jaime is indeed going with Bran north of the Wall.

Stannis is going to be Ultron
There was mention of Maegor using a powerful armor modelled after Ultron (here a Valyrian demon). Melisandre is heard offering a suit of armor to Stannis, telling him it will make him "the father of a new age", reminding the title Age of Ultron.
  • Possibly Jossed, as when the armor is finally described, it appears more similar to the Destroyer.
  • Definitely Jossed, since he dies in the Battle of the Blackwater and is sent to Valhalla.

Littlefinger is Loki in disguise
Thor says that Loki has been in Westeros over 30 years, so he'd have more than enough time to establish the identity of "Petyr Baelish". He's been working behind the scenes to take over Westeros, and we know that Loki would be content being a god ruling humans if he can't be king of the gods. Littlefinger is arrogant, petty, ruthless, condescending, manipulative, deceitful, constantly sets plans in motion to cause strife, puts people in just the wrong places so they make the worst decisions, plays two sides against each other, all so he can take advantage of the chaos to grab power, and take every chance to give out a smartass quip. That's Loki to a T!
  • Jossed. Loki is actually Davos Seaworth.

The Starks descend from Steve Rogers/Azor Ahai
One of the details several Stark and non-Stark characters mention the Starks have in common is that they cannot get drunk. Steve Rogers also had the same ability. Hmm...
  • Chapter 34 indicates this may be a Red Herring: Thor mentions that he put a spell on Brandon the Builder that gave him an Asgardian constitution - at least in regards to his ability to get drunk.
  • Chapter 54 confirms he's actually related to the Lannisters.

The REAL Sansa Stark will come back as Ghost Rider
Let's get the facts: 1) She's dead; 2) Joffrey, his murderer, is still alive; 3) The Night's Queen is walking arround Westeros in her body. That would be enough to make her vindictive and attract Mephisto's, or maybe Zarathos' attention. One deal after, she is back in Westeros, months or years after her death, assaults the Red Fortress, likely at the same time that her father or Tony do, kills Joffrey and Cersei, and then uses her new habilities to destroy her old body and make the Night's Queen scape. All this time she and her horse are flaming skeletons and everyone is scared shitless of her except Thor, who remembers a predecessor as Ghost Rider helping him during the Long Night.
  • Jossed. In chapter 50, Sansa wargs into Lady's taxidermied body and escapes King's Landing, on her way North. This would make her the equivalent of Wolfsbane.

Syrio Forel is actually Mystique
For a group that is currently hiding, Syrio seems to know quite a lot about Magneto and what he and Mystique can do, and his speeches sound much like what Mystique would say. Plus, some of the exercises Syrio teaches Arya seem to emphasize flexibility, which is one of Mystique's tricks.
  • Confirmed.

Ned Stark will become the Westerosi version of the Punisher
Because the Punisher was a Vietnam War veteran who's on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge against the ones he perceive as responsible for his family's death. Ned is a war veteran who just saw his eldest daughter die and has sworn unholy revenge against the Lannisters.
  • As pointed out be a reviewer Ned's new armor features a weirwood tree on the front of it... and it is easy to imagine that, for some, this would resemble Castle's skull logo.
  • Confirmed. Arya reveals in Chapter 22 that Ned is now nicknamed The Punisher.

Gendry is Colossus
Tobho Mott describes him as being like a colosuss from the folk tales, saying he is all muscle and no brains. And now he's inadvertently on his way to meet the Brotherhood. He also chose the alias Petyr, and Colossus's true name is Piotr Rasputin, another variation on the given name "Peter".
  • Confirmed.

A Crack of Thunder will feature Thor
Even though Mr Chaos said he wouldn't be appearing. Or Storm, since the existence of mutants has already been established.
  • In Daenerys III, she mentions Logan told her some people at the Summer Islands worship a woman that can control weather, so that's a tick for Storm.
  • Confirmed. Thor crash lands at Dragonstone in the middle of Melisandre's Seven Burning Ritual.

Arya is Shadowcat
Mystique already scouted her as more than human, and she has a remarkable gift to pass unnoticed, which could very well translate into intangibility. She also chose the alias Kat - a pet name for "Katherine" just as Kitty - and in the series she's teased with Gendry, who could be Colossus - Kitty's love interest.
  • Confirmed. Jojen refers to her as a shadow cat when describing his vision. And later, she gains Shadowcat's phasing powers and is given that codename by Magneto.

Doctor Doom is in Qarth
Okay, so this is a weak theory, but we know that Doom fled Westeros after being driven mad by his scarring (according to the story Jon Arryn told Ned), so he must be in Essos somewhere if he's going to be part of the story. And Qarth seems to be the most likely place he'd end up, as it has all the class of the Free Cities, but none of the elitism towards foreigners of Slavers Bay (going by how Xaro managed to become a leader), so it seems likely someone Doom could set up shop there and flourish. Besides which, the summary for A Crack of Thunder states that Daenerys will "face doom", which seems like the kind of word play Mr Chaos would make use of.
  • Confirmed. Viktor Vondam, known as Doom in Qarth, shows up in Chapter 8 of book 2. And he is apparently one of the Thirteen.

This fic's version of Deadpool will show up in the third book.
This is actually a weak theory, but Tony mentions a Second Son member who pretty much matches Deadpool's usual description back in Tony I of the second book. If Mr. Chaos is planning on adopting Daenerys' subplot with the Second Sons, then it would make sense that he would show up and becomes a duo with Daario Naharis (similar to the dynamic that Clynt and Bronn have). It's too great of an opportunity to pass up on.

Doom will become King of Qarth
He wants to use Daenerys to upend the city's status quo and make them finally break with tradition, in order to advance their place in the world. And given Mr. Chaos has stated that Doom is most interesting as a character when he's a morally grey ruler who rules Latveria with an iron fist for its own good, it stands to reason that in this universe Qarth will end up being the Latveria stand-in, with Doom having taken control with Dany's help.
  • Confirmed. He takes over in the power vacuum following the Warlocks' move against Dany and the Thirteen.

is going to be the equivalent of Hammer in this story.Word of God says that there is an equivalent to him, and that he's put hints in that point to who it is. It's heavily implied that Renly was the one who hired the bandits that attacked and branded Tony, all because Tony refused to make a suit of armour for him. Since Tony isn't dead yet, Renly may still want to kill him, leading to the conflict between them.
  • Confirmed. Theon finds out by accident that Renly was the one that paid the bandits, and was behind Vanko and Asha's attacks against Ramsay Snow and Casterly Rock - also telling them to kill both Tony and Robb Stark.

The identity of The Traitor
The Traitor is the only member of the Court of the Others about whom no information is known. So obviously, they're going to be important. The question simply is, who are they?
  • The Winter Soldier — since it's been all but fully confirmed that Steve Rogers is Azor Ahai, it would all so fitting for his Brainwashed and Crazy best friend to take on the role a leader within his enemies' faction.
  • Loki — it's already been theorized above that Loki could be with the Others; however, that theory includes a belief that Loki might be the Night's King, which has since been Jossed by the implication that the NK is actually Thanos. So, if Loki is selling out to the Court, he'd be given a different role.
    • A similar idea is that Loki is the Traitor, but he isn't selling out to the Others: He's the Traitor because he's betraying the Court, acting as The Mole. It would explain why Rickon implies it's a good thing that the Traitor was the second member of the Court to awake, since that means he has more time to undermine them without anyone watching him (since the Queen is in King's Landing) before the rest of them wake up. The lack of defining features in the legends could be due to the people who knew about him covering up his identity, making sure that the other members of the Court couldn't figure out who the Traitor was just by reading the legends. Or Loki is on his own side, betraying both the Court and everyone else, either for power or simply because he can.
      • Jossed, Loki was actually Davos Seaworth and on Stannis' side.
  • Sandor Clegane — He is The Quisling, became so soon after the Night's Queen awoke and may be turning into an Other himself.
    • Jossed. Jojen refers to them as being somewhere beynd the Wall. Sandor is in King's Landing.
  • Identity confirmed: Steve Rogers is both Azor Ahai and the Traitor.

Steve Rogers is Azor Ahai.
Apparently, Thor knew him and swears he never used a sword, but had a shield. And he's supposed to come back to save the world, just as Steve Rogers came back from the "grave" to inspire mankind again. Hmm...
  • Confirmed in Chapter 54 of Book 2. Not only that, but he's also the Traitor and the son of Lann the Clever.

Vanko will attack Jon and Natasha's Wedding
In Jon I of A Crack of Thunder, it's mentioned that Oberyn and Tony plan to have a chariot race as a part of Jon and Natasha's wedding festivities. This corresponds with the Monaco Grand Prix featured in Iron Man 2, where Vanko made his presence known to Tony by attacking him there. It's kind of an obvious parallel to use in the fic. Plus, let's face it, in Westeros, a normal wedding is a rarity.
  • Confirmed.

The Red Skull is the Commander of the Court
When Maester Luwin is sharing the tales he's studied of the Court of the Others, he mentions that the Commander has a "skull like face". Now, given that it's been all but confirmed that Azor Ahai in this timeline is Steve Rodgers/Captain America, it seems perfectly fitting for his canon Arch-Enemy to be a leader of the armies he fought during the Long Night.
  • Partially confirmed. In Jojen's vision he was going to "bathe their face in blood" of the Night Watch. So it's definitely someone with red face/mask.
  • Confirmed. Steve, Jeor, Mance and Ygritte face Johan (who is actually an Other possessing the body of Johan, who was Steve's friend) and takes the Red Skull name after Ygritte uses that to mock him.

Rickon has been abducted by the Guardians of the Galaxy
Right before he disappears, he can hear bits and pieces of "Hooked on a Feeling" by Blue Swede, the song featuring in the movie trailer. Also, Robb tries to take his hand but fails, echoing what happened to Meredith Quill on her deathbed when her son Peter was too scared, and he was abducted immediately afterwards.
  • Alternatively, Rickon will BECOME Star-Lord! The circumstances of his abduction are very similar to the one where Peter Quill was taken by Yondu and the Ravagers. Which brings up a very important question: does Westeros have raccoons?
    • Confirmed. Bran's dream shows him with Yondu.
    • And Chapter 45 has Rickon returning as Star-Lord.

Maester Maxell of Harrenhall is Magneto
The part where Arya, upon Maxell revealing he knows who she is, is unable to unsheathe her knife because it refuses to come free sounds like Magneto using his powers to prevent the unsheathing, and his knowledge of Baelish's true nature and "businesses" (quite good for a Maester living hundreds of miles away from King's Landing) reminds one about how he met Mystique when she was working as a prostitute. Plus, his physical description does resemble that of Ser Ian McKellen.
  • Confirmed.

Rickon will be aged up to a teenager when he returns to Westeros
We already know Rickon is on the path to be Starlord, meaning it is likely he and the other Guardians are going to help with the War for the Dawn. Sansa and Arya have both already had plot-relevant age ups, so it would not be out there for Rickon to get one too.My theory is that he's not in outer space, but rather an alternate dimension where time runs faster than in Westeros, so to him it will be thirteen or more years, but to the Starks, it will be only one or two.
  • Confirmed except for the age. he returns in Robb IV as an adult Star-Lord, and in Robb V, he explains the Children of the Forest took him to their home plane of existence where time moves faster.

The Wildfire explosion is what will give Petyr Parker and Gwen (or however she's named) Stacy their spider powers, and possibly age them to their teens, like Arya and Gendry.
Not only that, it will probably give rise to more Marvel characters on King's Landing, who were all probably hit by the wave too.
  • Possibly not empower them directly, particularly since the use of wildfire to unlock powers has been used a lot in the story and so would seem a bit overdone, since it is the analogue of the X-gene in the story, which is not the source of Peter or Gwen's powers. It is possible the wildfire will enhance the spider that will empower them, particularly since both the X-gene and the spider's enhancement are frequently attributed to radiation in the comics.
    • This theory is confirmed. Chapter 15 confirms that Peter, Gwen and Miles gained their powers after being bitten by wildfire-affected spiders.

Loki will have Adaptational Heroism
Given that a key source of Loki's villainy is a belief that he should be king instead of Thor or Odin, and in this story Thor agrees, it would make sense that either Loki will not be a villain, or that he will be redeemed by Thor if he is currently a villain.
  • Confirmed. His human disguise is Davos Seaworth, who's nothing short of a good guy.

Drax is Brandon Stark, Ned's elder brother.
  • They both certainly have a certain hot-headedness and interest in discussing their sexual prowess (at least the MCU version does). Plus Gamora is revealed to be Lyanna, so it would add to the plot twist.
    • OP here. This theory is confirmed as of Shield of Man, Robb I.


How well does it match the trope?

Example of:


Media sources: