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* The rest of [[Characters/TheMightyThorThorOdinson Thor]]'s supporting cast: Heimdall has been mentioned a few times in Book 2 but still hasn't made a proper appearance yet. If he does, he will likely look like his [[DivineRaceLift raceswapped]] MCU depiction as opposed to the comics version similar to the ASOMAM incarnation of Valkyrie. Balder has been sorely underutilized in other Marvel media and considering that he is Thor's half-brother, it would be a shame not to have him appear in the flesh since he was already mentioned before much like Heimdall. The Warriors Three are another important group of Marvel characters that haven't been seen yet in the ''A Song of Metal and Marvels'' series but they will probably show up somewhere for reasons already explained. As for Darcy Lewis and Erik Selvig, the fanfic has incorporated elements of the MCU from the Guardians of the Galaxy to Phil Coulson and the portrayal of Iron Man but who knows whether they'll even appear in the story since only the latter has made it into the comics and the former has just recently reappeared in ''Series/WandaVision''. Even then they aren't exactly popular. If they do, neither Lewis nor Selvig will have much connection to Jane Seaworth since she is an independent lady's maid from the Stormlands. They would be likely just a pair of friendly traders from the Iron Islands and the Riverlands who meet Jane and Thor during one of their travels across Westeros.
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* The rest of [[Characters/TheMightyThorThorOdinson [[Characters/MarvelComicsThorOdinson Thor]]'s supporting cast: Heimdall has been mentioned a few times in Book 2 but still hasn't made a proper appearance yet. If he does, he will likely look like his [[DivineRaceLift raceswapped]] MCU depiction as opposed to the comics version similar to the ASOMAM incarnation of Valkyrie. Balder has been sorely underutilized in other Marvel media and considering that he is Thor's half-brother, it would be a shame not to have him appear in the flesh since he was already mentioned before much like Heimdall. The Warriors Three are another important group of Marvel characters that haven't been seen yet in the ''A Song of Metal and Marvels'' series but they will probably show up somewhere for reasons already explained. As for Darcy Lewis and Erik Selvig, the fanfic has incorporated elements of the MCU from the Guardians of the Galaxy to Phil Coulson and the portrayal of Iron Man but who knows whether they'll even appear in the story since only the latter has made it into the comics and the former has just recently reappeared in ''Series/WandaVision''. Even then they aren't exactly popular. If they do, neither Lewis nor Selvig will have much connection to Jane Seaworth since she is an independent lady's maid from the Stormlands. They would be likely just a pair of friendly traders from the Iron Islands and the Riverlands who meet Jane and Thor during one of their travels across Westeros.
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** Jossed on the Littlefinger part, as AWOL reveals he is an independant agent [[spoiler:and now Ultron]].
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[[WMG: Robb Stark is Iceman]]
Jojen Reed mentions that one of his green dreams showed the sea being turned to ice. This itself is prophetic of the Starks defeating the Greyjoys, but maybe this is a little more literal and the Ironborn will be turned into actual ice. If anyone is going to be Iceman, it’ll be a Stark and with [[spoiler: Robb having fled the Ironborn attack on Winterfell, he’s in the perfect position to do. Also, given that the Ironborn using energy swords, ice powers will be the perfect counter.]]
* Possibly Jossed: [[spoiler:During the Battle of Blackwater Bay, Tyrion mentions hearing the report of a squire that turned into living ice.]]
* This troper is 90% sure that particular vision is from ''Robb Returns'', not this series.
** This troper thinks so as well, I'm fairly sure it was indicative of Theon's allegiance permanently shifting from the Ironborn and the Drowned God to The Starks and the Old Gods.
Jojen Reed mentions that one of his green dreams showed the sea being turned to ice. This itself is prophetic of the Starks defeating the Greyjoys, but maybe this is a little more literal and the Ironborn will be turned into actual ice. If anyone is going to be Iceman, it’ll be a Stark and with [[spoiler: Robb having fled the Ironborn attack on Winterfell, he’s in the perfect position to do. Also, given that the Ironborn using energy swords, ice powers will be the perfect counter.]]
* Possibly Jossed: [[spoiler:During the Battle of Blackwater Bay, Tyrion mentions hearing the report of a squire that turned into living ice.]]
* This troper is 90% sure that particular vision is from ''Robb Returns'', not this series.
** This troper thinks so as well, I'm fairly sure it was indicative of Theon's allegiance permanently shifting from the Ironborn and the Drowned God to The Starks and the Old Gods.
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[[WMG: Mystique's lost children are The Reed Twins]]
Strictly speaking, we've never found out who Meera and Jojen's mother is. And with them being fraternal twins like Mystique had, and the fact that she could assume any form, plus the hinting they could become Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch (see WMG above), it'd be an interesting twist on those two. And a way to work around how Magneto hasn't exactly had leeway to have kids given he disguised himself as a Maester.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Magneto actually is the father of Mystique's children, who are revealed to be Margaery and Loras Tyrell.]]
Strictly speaking, we've never found out who Meera and Jojen's mother is. And with them being fraternal twins like Mystique had, and the fact that she could assume any form, plus the hinting they could become Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch (see WMG above), it'd be an interesting twist on those two. And a way to work around how Magneto hasn't exactly had leeway to have kids given he disguised himself as a Maester.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Magneto actually is the father of Mystique's children, who are revealed to be Margaery and Loras Tyrell.]]
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[[WMG: Rumlow will be captured by the Red Skull in their march to the Wall]]
In a HeroicSacrifice to ensure the Free Folk's safe passage. Thus adding a layer of tragedy to his character, in that like Schmidt, he died a good man, but was reborn as the Skull's NumberTwo Crossbones as a mocking gesture towards his former title as lord of bones in that he's double crossing the living.
In a HeroicSacrifice to ensure the Free Folk's safe passage. Thus adding a layer of tragedy to his character, in that like Schmidt, he died a good man, but was reborn as the Skull's NumberTwo Crossbones as a mocking gesture towards his former title as lord of bones in that he's double crossing the living.
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*** Jossed on the Reed siblings, [[spoiler:Margaery and Loras Tyrell are Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.]]
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[[WMG: The Night's Queen will turn Tywin into a thrall]]
She'll decide that he's a servant too potentially useful to just let go.
She'll decide that he's a servant too potentially useful to just let go.
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[[WMG: Jon will take Petyr Parker as his squire]]
''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'' is going to be one of the plotlines adapted to ''A Shield of Man'', and one of the biggest plot points of that movie is Peter being Tony's protegee. Well, Tony's going to be staying at Iron Pointe, but another Stark is on his way to King's Landing, and Petyr is the right age to be taken in as a squire (even more so if he got hit by the magic wave during the Battle of the Blackwater).
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** Confirmed on the Iron Man 3 part, Jossed on the Avengers part.
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[[WMG: Renly will cause an EnemyMine in Braavos during ''A Shield of Man'']]
That with him manipulating The Iron Bank and other sections of Braavos, he will cause the Iron Family (Tony's group), The Brotherhood, The X-Men, and X-Force to unite to defeat his machinations, showing how outmatched a manipulator really is when faced with people with genuine powers.
** [[spoiler:Jossed: Renly has been under the control of the Mandarin for a while and now has only his memories up to age seven. That said, the Mandarin himself could always be said manipulator.]]
That with him manipulating The Iron Bank and other sections of Braavos, he will cause the Iron Family (Tony's group), The Brotherhood, The X-Men, and X-Force to unite to defeat his machinations, showing how outmatched a manipulator really is when faced with people with genuine powers.
** [[spoiler:Jossed: Renly has been under the control of the Mandarin for a while and now has only his memories up to age seven. That said, the Mandarin himself could always be said manipulator.]]
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[[WMG: Tywin will turn against Joffrey and betray him.]]
Thanks to the majority of Joffrey's actions, the Lannisters, and the Crown are in a far worse position than they were in canon. With Robb's marriage to Roslin Frey, and Ramsay's death, the Freys and Boltons can no longer be turned against the Starks in this story, so the canon GodzillaThreshold Tywin took, the Red Wedding can no longer happen. What's more, he's not dealing with Robb Stark here, who is relatively inexperienced with betrayal and politics compared to his father, but Eddard Stark, who, while not as experienced as Tywin, fought in Robert's Rebellion and is far warier of traitors now than he was in canon. To make matters worse, Tywin likely will likely find out from Ulysses Klaue, who is experimenting with sunstones, Iron Pointe metal, and possibly silver, how the Iron Man armor works and, thus, how Antony Stark is the Iron Man. \\\
With the consideration that Antony saved his cousin Ned, and sought to avenge Sansa by maiming Joffrey, he will realize that Antony is loyal to his family, and thus, that even if they manage to defeat Ned, Antony will potentially swoop in to avenge his family, and decimate his armies. Even if they were to create their own Iron Man armors to combat Tony, odds are Tony will be prepared for such an event, as he displayed enough cleverness in both deflecting suspicions that he was the Iron Man and convincing Tywin to give him Iron Pointe, and may have even created an Iron Legion already, something the audience knows is true, with the multitude of armors he's made and the number of loyalists he has, and the fact that despite the risk of discovery of the sunstones' abilities, he still sold them. And in addition, if they try to neutralize Jon as a threat, they will also have to contend with Natasha Martell, whom if they make a move against, will worsen already tense relations with Dorne, and potentially lead to a war on both the northern and southern ends. And even if by some miracle, they manage to defeat both Antony and Ned, and ensure Jon and Natasha don't turn against them without drawing Dorne into the war, the prolonged conflict would risk weakening and thinning the Lannisters' armies, leaving the Seven Kingdoms vulnerable to being retaken by Baratheon forces at either Stannis or Renly's hands (they don't know Stannis is dead and that he can't return, or what Renly could be up to).\\\
As such, Tywin will eventually give a far fiercer TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Joffrey at a Small Council meeting than any such speech he gave to Joffrey in canon, even raising his voice the way he did to Cersei when insisting that she marry Loras Tyrell. The Night's Queen, ever the manipulator, will pit Joffrey and Tywin against each other, making it a minor and discreet example of a CockFight (she has managed to seduce Tywin by pretending to be Joanna Lannister), convincing Tywin to kill Joffrey, sue for peace, abandon the war, and return to Casterly Rock while convincing simpleminded Joffrey to kill Tywin in the open, where Tywin will be luring him out by appearing to desert. Joffrey will try to order his men to kill Tywin for treason, but before they do, they choose not to, both out of fear of Tywin, and out of realization from a [[HannibalLecture speech Tywin gives then and there]], that they have no chance of winning the war, and that their only chance to survive it, is by giving the North the vengeance they desire. As such, Tywin succeeds in turning Joffrey's men against their king out of fear, and kill him.
* {{Jossed}}: Joffrey dies on his wedding day, apparently stabbed by Littlefinger, although the circumstances are murky at best.
Thanks to the majority of Joffrey's actions, the Lannisters, and the Crown are in a far worse position than they were in canon. With Robb's marriage to Roslin Frey, and Ramsay's death, the Freys and Boltons can no longer be turned against the Starks in this story, so the canon GodzillaThreshold Tywin took, the Red Wedding can no longer happen. What's more, he's not dealing with Robb Stark here, who is relatively inexperienced with betrayal and politics compared to his father, but Eddard Stark, who, while not as experienced as Tywin, fought in Robert's Rebellion and is far warier of traitors now than he was in canon. To make matters worse, Tywin likely will likely find out from Ulysses Klaue, who is experimenting with sunstones, Iron Pointe metal, and possibly silver, how the Iron Man armor works and, thus, how Antony Stark is the Iron Man. \\\
With the consideration that Antony saved his cousin Ned, and sought to avenge Sansa by maiming Joffrey, he will realize that Antony is loyal to his family, and thus, that even if they manage to defeat Ned, Antony will potentially swoop in to avenge his family, and decimate his armies. Even if they were to create their own Iron Man armors to combat Tony, odds are Tony will be prepared for such an event, as he displayed enough cleverness in both deflecting suspicions that he was the Iron Man and convincing Tywin to give him Iron Pointe, and may have even created an Iron Legion already, something the audience knows is true, with the multitude of armors he's made and the number of loyalists he has, and the fact that despite the risk of discovery of the sunstones' abilities, he still sold them. And in addition, if they try to neutralize Jon as a threat, they will also have to contend with Natasha Martell, whom if they make a move against, will worsen already tense relations with Dorne, and potentially lead to a war on both the northern and southern ends. And even if by some miracle, they manage to defeat both Antony and Ned, and ensure Jon and Natasha don't turn against them without drawing Dorne into the war, the prolonged conflict would risk weakening and thinning the Lannisters' armies, leaving the Seven Kingdoms vulnerable to being retaken by Baratheon forces at either Stannis or Renly's hands (they don't know Stannis is dead and that he can't return, or what Renly could be up to).\\\
As such, Tywin will eventually give a far fiercer TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Joffrey at a Small Council meeting than any such speech he gave to Joffrey in canon, even raising his voice the way he did to Cersei when insisting that she marry Loras Tyrell. The Night's Queen, ever the manipulator, will pit Joffrey and Tywin against each other, making it a minor and discreet example of a CockFight (she has managed to seduce Tywin by pretending to be Joanna Lannister), convincing Tywin to kill Joffrey, sue for peace, abandon the war, and return to Casterly Rock while convincing simpleminded Joffrey to kill Tywin in the open, where Tywin will be luring him out by appearing to desert. Joffrey will try to order his men to kill Tywin for treason, but before they do, they choose not to, both out of fear of Tywin, and out of realization from a [[HannibalLecture speech Tywin gives then and there]], that they have no chance of winning the war, and that their only chance to survive it, is by giving the North the vengeance they desire. As such, Tywin succeeds in turning Joffrey's men against their king out of fear, and kill him.
* {{Jossed}}: Joffrey dies on his wedding day, apparently stabbed by Littlefinger, although the circumstances are murky at best.
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[[WMG: Jon will take Tyrion's role in A Shield of Man]]
We are tracking a version of A Storm of Swords after all. And with Tywin's newfound interest in Jon's identity, Jon might be framed, put on trial, made to fight The Hound (since the Mountain is already dead), and end up needing to escape to Essos to link up with Tony/get away from the mess. And in the end, he'll kill Tywin, giving him a "My Name is Jaehaerys. But you will take this secret to the stranger."
** {{Jossed}}: The one (potentially) being framed is ''Littlefinger'', who is seen with his hand holding a dagger that has been plunged into Joffrey's chest, but no one actually saw it due to lightning hitting so close it blinded everyone in that moment.
[[WMG: Cersei will kill Tywin]]
She'll get sick of the disrespect she keeps getting from him and will kill him with her new powers.
* {{Jossed}}: [[spoiler:Tywin is killed by Margery and Loras Tyrell]]
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[[WMG: Robb Stark is Iceman]]
Jojen Reed mentions that one of his green dreams showed the sea being turned to ice. This itself is prophetic of the Starks defeating the Greyjoys, but maybe this is a little more literal and the Ironborn will be turned into actual ice. If anyone is going to be Iceman, it’ll be a Stark and with [[spoiler:Robb having fled the Ironborn attack on Winterfell, he’s in the perfect position to do. Also, given that the Ironborn using energy swords, ice powers will be the perfect counter.]]
* Possibly Jossed: [[spoiler:During the Battle of Blackwater Bay, Tyrion mentions hearing the report of a squire that turned into living ice.]]
* This troper is 90% sure that particular vision is from ''Robb Returns'', not this series.
** This troper thinks so as well, I'm fairly sure it was indicative of Theon's allegiance permanently shifting from the Ironborn and the Drowned God to The Starks and the Old Gods.
* Jossed, ASOM has him become [[spoiler:Venom, and Roslin She-Venom.]]
[[WMG: Mystique's lost children are The Reed Twins]]
Strictly speaking, we've never found out who Meera and Jojen's mother is. And with them being fraternal twins like Mystique had, and the fact that she could assume any form, plus the hinting they could become Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch (see WMG above), it'd be an interesting twist on those two. And a way to work around how Magneto hasn't exactly had leeway to have kids given he disguised himself as a Maester.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Magneto actually is the father of Mystique's children, who are revealed to be Margaery and Loras Tyrell.]]
[[WMG: The Night's Queen will turn Tywin into a thrall]]
She'll decide that he's a servant too potentially useful to just let go.
* Jossed, this was likely her plan but [[spoiler:he is killed before it can come to fruition.]]
[[WMG: Renly will cause an EnemyMine in Braavos during ''A Shield of Man'']]
That with him manipulating The Iron Bank and other sections of Braavos, he will cause the Iron Family (Tony's group), The Brotherhood, The X-Men, and X-Force to unite to defeat his machinations, showing how outmatched a manipulator really is when faced with people with genuine powers.
** [[spoiler:Jossed: Renly has been under the control of the Mandarin for a while and now has only his memories up to age seven. That said, the Mandarin himself could always be said manipulator.]]
[[WMG: Tywin will turn against Joffrey and betray him.]]
Thanks to the majority of Joffrey's actions, the Lannisters, and the Crown are in a far worse position than they were in canon. With Robb's marriage to Roslin Frey, and Ramsay's death, the Freys and Boltons can no longer be turned against the Starks in this story, so the canon GodzillaThreshold Tywin took, the Red Wedding can no longer happen. What's more, he's not dealing with Robb Stark here, who is relatively inexperienced with betrayal and politics compared to his father, but Eddard Stark, who, while not as experienced as Tywin, fought in Robert's Rebellion and is far warier of traitors now than he was in canon. To make matters worse, Tywin likely will likely find out from Ulysses Klaue, who is experimenting with sunstones, Iron Pointe metal, and possibly silver, how the Iron Man armor works and, thus, how Antony Stark is the Iron Man. \\\
With the consideration that Antony saved his cousin Ned, and sought to avenge Sansa by maiming Joffrey, he will realize that Antony is loyal to his family, and thus, that even if they manage to defeat Ned, Antony will potentially swoop in to avenge his family, and decimate his armies. Even if they were to create their own Iron Man armors to combat Tony, odds are Tony will be prepared for such an event, as he displayed enough cleverness in both deflecting suspicions that he was the Iron Man and convincing Tywin to give him Iron Pointe, and may have even created an Iron Legion already, something the audience knows is true, with the multitude of armors he's made and the number of loyalists he has, and the fact that despite the risk of discovery of the sunstones' abilities, he still sold them. And in addition, if they try to neutralize Jon as a threat, they will also have to contend with Natasha Martell, whom if they make a move against, will worsen already tense relations with Dorne, and potentially lead to a war on both the northern and southern ends. And even if by some miracle, they manage to defeat both Antony and Ned, and ensure Jon and Natasha don't turn against them without drawing Dorne into the war, the prolonged conflict would risk weakening and thinning the Lannisters' armies, leaving the Seven Kingdoms vulnerable to being retaken by Baratheon forces at either Stannis or Renly's hands (they don't know Stannis is dead and that he can't return, or what Renly could be up to).\\\
As such, Tywin will eventually give a far fiercer TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Joffrey at a Small Council meeting than any such speech he gave to Joffrey in canon, even raising his voice the way he did to Cersei when insisting that she marry Loras Tyrell. The Night's Queen, ever the manipulator, will pit Joffrey and Tywin against each other, making it a minor and discreet example of a CockFight (she has managed to seduce Tywin by pretending to be Joanna Lannister), convincing Tywin to kill Joffrey, sue for peace, abandon the war, and return to Casterly Rock while convincing simpleminded Joffrey to kill Tywin in the open, where Tywin will be luring him out by appearing to desert. Joffrey will try to order his men to kill Tywin for treason, but before they do, they choose not to, both out of fear of Tywin, and out of realization from a [[HannibalLecture speech Tywin gives then and there]], that they have no chance of winning the war, and that their only chance to survive it, is by giving the North the vengeance they desire. As such, Tywin succeeds in turning Joffrey's men against their king out of fear, and kill him.
* {{Jossed}}: Joffrey dies on his wedding day, apparently stabbed by Littlefinger, although the circumstances are murky at best.
[[WMG: Jon will take Tyrion's role in A Shield of Man]]
We are tracking a version of A Storm of Swords after all. And with Tywin's newfound interest in Jon's identity, Jon might be framed, put on trial, made to fight The Hound (since the Mountain is already dead), and end up needing to escape to Essos to link up with Tony/get away from the mess. And in the end, he'll kill Tywin, giving him a "My Name is Jaehaerys. But you will take this secret to the stranger."
** {{Jossed}}: The one (potentially) being framed is ''Littlefinger'', who is seen with his hand holding a dagger that has been plunged into Joffrey's chest, but no one actually saw it due to lightning hitting so close it blinded everyone in that moment.
[[WMG: Cersei will kill Tywin]]
She'll get sick of the disrespect she keeps getting from him and will kill him with her new powers.
* {{Jossed}}: [[spoiler:Tywin is killed by Margery and Loras Tyrell]]
Jojen Reed mentions that one of his green dreams showed the sea being turned to ice. This itself is prophetic of the Starks defeating the Greyjoys, but maybe this is a little more literal and the Ironborn will be turned into actual ice. If anyone is going to be Iceman, it’ll be a Stark and with [[spoiler:Robb having fled the Ironborn attack on Winterfell, he’s in the perfect position to do. Also, given that the Ironborn using energy swords, ice powers will be the perfect counter.]]
* Possibly Jossed: [[spoiler:During the Battle of Blackwater Bay, Tyrion mentions hearing the report of a squire that turned into living ice.]]
* This troper is 90% sure that particular vision is from ''Robb Returns'', not this series.
** This troper thinks so as well, I'm fairly sure it was indicative of Theon's allegiance permanently shifting from the Ironborn and the Drowned God to The Starks and the Old Gods.
* Jossed, ASOM has him become [[spoiler:Venom, and Roslin She-Venom.]]
[[WMG: Mystique's lost children are The Reed Twins]]
Strictly speaking, we've never found out who Meera and Jojen's mother is. And with them being fraternal twins like Mystique had, and the fact that she could assume any form, plus the hinting they could become Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch (see WMG above), it'd be an interesting twist on those two. And a way to work around how Magneto hasn't exactly had leeway to have kids given he disguised himself as a Maester.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Magneto actually is the father of Mystique's children, who are revealed to be Margaery and Loras Tyrell.]]
[[WMG: The Night's Queen will turn Tywin into a thrall]]
She'll decide that he's a servant too potentially useful to just let go.
* Jossed, this was likely her plan but [[spoiler:he is killed before it can come to fruition.]]
[[WMG: Renly will cause an EnemyMine in Braavos during ''A Shield of Man'']]
That with him manipulating The Iron Bank and other sections of Braavos, he will cause the Iron Family (Tony's group), The Brotherhood, The X-Men, and X-Force to unite to defeat his machinations, showing how outmatched a manipulator really is when faced with people with genuine powers.
** [[spoiler:Jossed: Renly has been under the control of the Mandarin for a while and now has only his memories up to age seven. That said, the Mandarin himself could always be said manipulator.]]
[[WMG: Tywin will turn against Joffrey and betray him.]]
Thanks to the majority of Joffrey's actions, the Lannisters, and the Crown are in a far worse position than they were in canon. With Robb's marriage to Roslin Frey, and Ramsay's death, the Freys and Boltons can no longer be turned against the Starks in this story, so the canon GodzillaThreshold Tywin took, the Red Wedding can no longer happen. What's more, he's not dealing with Robb Stark here, who is relatively inexperienced with betrayal and politics compared to his father, but Eddard Stark, who, while not as experienced as Tywin, fought in Robert's Rebellion and is far warier of traitors now than he was in canon. To make matters worse, Tywin likely will likely find out from Ulysses Klaue, who is experimenting with sunstones, Iron Pointe metal, and possibly silver, how the Iron Man armor works and, thus, how Antony Stark is the Iron Man. \\\
With the consideration that Antony saved his cousin Ned, and sought to avenge Sansa by maiming Joffrey, he will realize that Antony is loyal to his family, and thus, that even if they manage to defeat Ned, Antony will potentially swoop in to avenge his family, and decimate his armies. Even if they were to create their own Iron Man armors to combat Tony, odds are Tony will be prepared for such an event, as he displayed enough cleverness in both deflecting suspicions that he was the Iron Man and convincing Tywin to give him Iron Pointe, and may have even created an Iron Legion already, something the audience knows is true, with the multitude of armors he's made and the number of loyalists he has, and the fact that despite the risk of discovery of the sunstones' abilities, he still sold them. And in addition, if they try to neutralize Jon as a threat, they will also have to contend with Natasha Martell, whom if they make a move against, will worsen already tense relations with Dorne, and potentially lead to a war on both the northern and southern ends. And even if by some miracle, they manage to defeat both Antony and Ned, and ensure Jon and Natasha don't turn against them without drawing Dorne into the war, the prolonged conflict would risk weakening and thinning the Lannisters' armies, leaving the Seven Kingdoms vulnerable to being retaken by Baratheon forces at either Stannis or Renly's hands (they don't know Stannis is dead and that he can't return, or what Renly could be up to).\\\
As such, Tywin will eventually give a far fiercer TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Joffrey at a Small Council meeting than any such speech he gave to Joffrey in canon, even raising his voice the way he did to Cersei when insisting that she marry Loras Tyrell. The Night's Queen, ever the manipulator, will pit Joffrey and Tywin against each other, making it a minor and discreet example of a CockFight (she has managed to seduce Tywin by pretending to be Joanna Lannister), convincing Tywin to kill Joffrey, sue for peace, abandon the war, and return to Casterly Rock while convincing simpleminded Joffrey to kill Tywin in the open, where Tywin will be luring him out by appearing to desert. Joffrey will try to order his men to kill Tywin for treason, but before they do, they choose not to, both out of fear of Tywin, and out of realization from a [[HannibalLecture speech Tywin gives then and there]], that they have no chance of winning the war, and that their only chance to survive it, is by giving the North the vengeance they desire. As such, Tywin succeeds in turning Joffrey's men against their king out of fear, and kill him.
* {{Jossed}}: Joffrey dies on his wedding day, apparently stabbed by Littlefinger, although the circumstances are murky at best.
[[WMG: Jon will take Tyrion's role in A Shield of Man]]
We are tracking a version of A Storm of Swords after all. And with Tywin's newfound interest in Jon's identity, Jon might be framed, put on trial, made to fight The Hound (since the Mountain is already dead), and end up needing to escape to Essos to link up with Tony/get away from the mess. And in the end, he'll kill Tywin, giving him a "My Name is Jaehaerys. But you will take this secret to the stranger."
** {{Jossed}}: The one (potentially) being framed is ''Littlefinger'', who is seen with his hand holding a dagger that has been plunged into Joffrey's chest, but no one actually saw it due to lightning hitting so close it blinded everyone in that moment.
[[WMG: Cersei will kill Tywin]]
She'll get sick of the disrespect she keeps getting from him and will kill him with her new powers.
* {{Jossed}}: [[spoiler:Tywin is killed by Margery and Loras Tyrell]]
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[[WMG: Rumlow will be captured by the Red Skull in their march to the Wall]]
In a HeroicSacrifice to ensure the Free Folk's safe passage. Thus adding a layer of tragedy to his character, in that like Schmidt, he died a good man, but was reborn as the Skull's NumberTwo Crossbones as a mocking gesture towards his former title as Lord of Bones in that he's double crossing the living.
* Confirmed, though YMMV on him being a good person even before his enthrallment.
[[WMG: Jon will take Petyr Parker as his squire]]
''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'' is going to be one of the plotlines adapted to ''A Shield of Man'', and one of the biggest plot points of that movie is Peter being Tony's protegee. Well, Tony's going to be staying at Iron Pointe, but another Stark is on his way to King's Landing, and Petyr is the right age to be taken in as a squire (even more so if he got hit by the magic wave during the Battle of the Blackwater).
* Confirmed, Petyr and Miles Morales become Jon's official squires in AWOL.
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[[WMG: The Mandarin is another ruse like in ''Film/IronMan3'']]
Playing off the twist in that movie, the Mandarin is a person who believes in his own ways, (Salador San comes to mind as a feasible choice) but in actuality, he's being backed by [[spoiler: Renly]] as a way to undercut all the other crowns by going for their finances and leaning on the Iron Bank. And since Tony is heading there on behalf of the Lannisters, it's a perfect time for the more clear message of [[spoiler: Renly]] naming himself the author of all Tony's pain, and proclaiming, "I AM THE MANDARIN!"
* {{Inverted|Trope}} - [[spoiler:Renly]] claims to be the Mandarin, only for the real one to show up, declare [[spoiler:Renly]] was his puppet and decide [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's lost any use he may have had for him]].
Playing off the twist in that movie, the Mandarin is a person who believes in his own ways, (Salador San comes to mind as a feasible choice) but in actuality, he's being backed by [[spoiler: Renly]] as a way to undercut all the other crowns by going for their finances and leaning on the Iron Bank. And since Tony is heading there on behalf of the Lannisters, it's a perfect time for the more clear message of [[spoiler: Renly]] naming himself the author of all Tony's pain, and proclaiming, "I AM THE MANDARIN!"
* {{Inverted|Trope}} - [[spoiler:Renly]] claims to be the Mandarin, only for the real one to show up, declare [[spoiler:Renly]] was his puppet and decide [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's lost any use he may have had for him]].
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[[WMG:Asha will become [[spoiler:Nebula]]]]
When caught by Euron Greyjoy [[spoiler:who has become the story's equivalent to Ronan]], he is mentioned to be using his knives on her scalp as he mentions that he will remake her to serve his king, [[spoiler:much like Nebula was when Thanos (the story's equivalent of the Night's King) captured her]].
When caught by Euron Greyjoy [[spoiler:who has become the story's equivalent to Ronan]], he is mentioned to be using his knives on her scalp as he mentions that he will remake her to serve his king, [[spoiler:much like Nebula was when Thanos (the story's equivalent of the Night's King) captured her]].
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[[WMG: The Reed Twins will be composite characters with the Maximoffs (Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver).]]
Bran is implied to eventually become the Vision. And his origin story has ties to the Maximoff siblings in the MCU adaptation ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', which a good chunk of the fic is based on. Plus, Meera has a certain implicit attraction to Bran in canon, just as Wanda and Vision do explicitly.
** {{Jossed}} as [[spoiler:Margaery and Loras Tyrell are actually the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, respectively.]]
[[WMG: If the Reed Twins are composited with the Maximoffs, their power sets will be switched between genders]]
Scarlet Witch's probability manipulation powers would synergize with Jojen's greensight, while Meera would become an even deadlier combatant with super speed.
[[WMG: Likewise, the Three-eyed Raven will be Ultron, who will either be an anti-hero or anti-villain in the continuity rather than a straight-up antagonist.]]
Face it, he has ties to Vision's backstory. Besides, Ultron has been mentioned as a Valyrian demon. He likely does exist. And canon Bloodraven has ties to House Targaryen.
Bran is implied to eventually become the Vision. And his origin story has ties to the Maximoff siblings in the MCU adaptation ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', which a good chunk of the fic is based on. Plus, Meera has a certain implicit attraction to Bran in canon, just as Wanda and Vision do explicitly.
** {{Jossed}} as [[spoiler:Margaery and Loras Tyrell are actually the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, respectively.]]
[[WMG: If the Reed Twins are composited with the Maximoffs, their power sets will be switched between genders]]
Scarlet Witch's probability manipulation powers would synergize with Jojen's greensight, while Meera would become an even deadlier combatant with super speed.
[[WMG: Likewise, the Three-eyed Raven will be Ultron, who will either be an anti-hero or anti-villain in the continuity rather than a straight-up antagonist.]]
Face it, he has ties to Vision's backstory. Besides, Ultron has been mentioned as a Valyrian demon. He likely does exist. And canon Bloodraven has ties to House Targaryen.
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[[WMG: There is a Professor X analog somewhere in the story]]
And one of the fun gimmicks of using him will be contrasting perspectives on who he is. For the Brotherhood, he's a fool and an obstacle for Arya. For X Force, he's an ally to guide Dany's quest. For Tony? Maybe an equal to match wits with. But regardless, one of Chaos's fun parts of writing will be figuring out how to capture these varied perspectives for 1 character without true bias.
* Confirmed in Arya II of ASOM, Charles Xavier is [[spoiler:the Sealord of Braavos.]]
And one of the fun gimmicks of using him will be contrasting perspectives on who he is. For the Brotherhood, he's a fool and an obstacle for Arya. For X Force, he's an ally to guide Dany's quest. For Tony? Maybe an equal to match wits with. But regardless, one of Chaos's fun parts of writing will be figuring out how to capture these varied perspectives for 1 character without true bias.
* Confirmed in Arya II of ASOM, Charles Xavier is [[spoiler:the Sealord of Braavos.]]
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[[WMG: Robb Stark becomes a Mantis analog]]
While the Guardians are already established by Rickon, Robb hasn't gotten his composite character yet. And you need some Marvel character if you want to stick around in this story.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Mantis is a Child created from Rhaenys Targaryen, daughter of Rhaegar.]]
[[WMG: Robb and Roslin will become Adam Warlock and Mantis]]
The northern story is starting to lean more heavily into the Marvel space zone, and with Robb beginning to learn leadership, there are a limited amount of leader heroes in that part of Marvel, so it's unlikely to make him someone like SilverSurfer. However, one theme building is that the Starks are beginning to line up in becoming Thanos's greatest enemies, with [[spoiler: Gamora, Drax, Yondu, Star-Lord, and Iron Man]] all with the Starks already with things like [[spoiler: Vision]] also waiting in the wings. So, for Robb and his wife to become additional Guardians would be fitting.
** Roslin could also become Quasar, given her strong demeanor and the way she's part of the Stark family by marriage now.
** Partly Jossed, [[spoiler:Mantis is a Child created from Rhaenys Targaryen, daughter of Rhaegar.]]
While the Guardians are already established by Rickon, Robb hasn't gotten his composite character yet. And you need some Marvel character if you want to stick around in this story.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Mantis is a Child created from Rhaenys Targaryen, daughter of Rhaegar.]]
[[WMG: Robb and Roslin will become Adam Warlock and Mantis]]
The northern story is starting to lean more heavily into the Marvel space zone, and with Robb beginning to learn leadership, there are a limited amount of leader heroes in that part of Marvel, so it's unlikely to make him someone like SilverSurfer. However, one theme building is that the Starks are beginning to line up in becoming Thanos's greatest enemies, with [[spoiler: Gamora, Drax, Yondu, Star-Lord, and Iron Man]] all with the Starks already with things like [[spoiler: Vision]] also waiting in the wings. So, for Robb and his wife to become additional Guardians would be fitting.
** Roslin could also become Quasar, given her strong demeanor and the way she's part of the Stark family by marriage now.
** Partly Jossed, [[spoiler:Mantis is a Child created from Rhaenys Targaryen, daughter of Rhaegar.]]
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[[WMG: Qyburn will accidentally summon the demon Ultron to control the armor instead of Jaime]]
Assuming that Qyburn doesn't somehow rip Jaime's soul from his body then something else is going to be summoned to possess the armor. The simplest explanation is that it will be that the demon that the armor was based on in the first place.
[[WMG: Alternatively it'll be Apocalypse]]
Qyburn is based on Mister Sinister in this story, and Sinister is classically a minion of Apocalypse, it is possible he is using Cersei to assemble a body for his master.
Assuming that Qyburn doesn't somehow rip Jaime's soul from his body then something else is going to be summoned to possess the armor. The simplest explanation is that it will be that the demon that the armor was based on in the first place.
[[WMG: Alternatively it'll be Apocalypse]]
Qyburn is based on Mister Sinister in this story, and Sinister is classically a minion of Apocalypse, it is possible he is using Cersei to assemble a body for his master.
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[[WMG: Joffrey will become Ultron]]
Cersei changes her mind about whose soul she wants in the armor and has Qyburn bring back Joffrey instead. It will also be Jaime, the newly minted Ghost Rider who puts down the rampaging Ultron. Not only will it be recompense for creating the monster with his sister, but Jaime will use the Penance Stare so Joffrey will finally understand the magnitude of all the suffering he's caused.
Cersei changes her mind about whose soul she wants in the armor and has Qyburn bring back Joffrey instead. It will also be Jaime, the newly minted Ghost Rider who puts down the rampaging Ultron. Not only will it be recompense for creating the monster with his sister, but Jaime will use the Penance Stare so Joffrey will finally understand the magnitude of all the suffering he's caused.
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[[WMG: Qyburn will accidentally summon the demon Ultron to control the armor instead of Jaime]]
Assuming that Qyburn doesn't somehow rip Jaime's soul from his body then something else is going to be summoned to possess the armor. The simplest explanation is that it will be that the demon that the armor was based on in the first place.
* Jossed. At least, not unless there's a reveal about the nature of the armor.
[[WMG: Alternatively it'll be Apocalypse]]
Qyburn is based on Mister Sinister in this story, and Sinister is classically a minion of Apocalypse, it is possible he is using Cersei to assemble a body for his master.
* Jossed. Apolcalypse was a PrecursorVillain for Valeryia instead.
[[WMG: Joffrey will become Ultron]]
Cersei changes her mind about whose soul she wants in the armor and has Qyburn bring back Joffrey instead. It will also be Jaime, the newly minted Ghost Rider who puts down the rampaging Ultron. Not only will it be recompense for creating the monster with his sister, but Jaime will use the Penance Stare so Joffrey will finally understand the magnitude of all the suffering he's caused.
* Jossed. Though not for lack of trying. His spirit did try to get to the armor, but was fought off by Littlefinger.
[[WMG: The Reed Twins will be composite characters with the Maximoffs (Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver).]]
Bran is implied to eventually become the Vision. And his origin story has ties to the Maximoff siblings in the MCU adaptation ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', which a good chunk of the fic is based on. Plus, Meera has a certain implicit attraction to Bran in canon, just as Wanda and Vision do explicitly.
** {{Jossed}} as [[spoiler:Margaery and Loras Tyrell are actually the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, respectively.]]
[[WMG: If the Reed Twins are composited with the Maximoffs, their power sets will be switched between genders]]
Scarlet Witch's probability manipulation powers would synergize with Jojen's greensight, while Meera would become an even deadlier combatant with super speed.
* Jossed as above.
[[WMG: Likewise, the Three-eyed Raven will be Ultron, who will either be an anti-hero or anti-villain in the continuity rather than a straight-up antagonist.]]
Face it, he has ties to Vision's backstory. Besides, Ultron has been mentioned as a Valyrian demon. He likely does exist. And canon Bloodraven has ties to House Targaryen.
* Jossed. At least initially, Petyr Baelish is Ultron.
[[WMG: Robb Stark becomes a Mantis analog]]
While the Guardians are already established by Rickon, Robb hasn't gotten his composite character yet. And you need some Marvel character if you want to stick around in this story.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Mantis is a Child created from Rhaenys Targaryen, daughter of Rhaegar.]]
[[WMG: Robb and Roslin will become Adam Warlock and Mantis]]
The northern story is starting to lean more heavily into the Marvel space zone, and with Robb beginning to learn leadership, there are a limited amount of leader heroes in that part of Marvel, so it's unlikely to make him someone like SilverSurfer. However, one theme building is that the Starks are beginning to line up in becoming Thanos's greatest enemies, with [[spoiler: Gamora, Drax, Yondu, Star-Lord, and Iron Man]] all with the Starks already with things like [[spoiler: Vision]] also waiting in the wings. So, for Robb and his wife to become additional Guardians would be fitting.
** Roslin could also become Quasar, given her strong demeanor and the way she's part of the Stark family by marriage now.
** Partly Jossed, [[spoiler:Mantis is a Child created from Rhaenys Targaryen, daughter of Rhaegar.]]
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[[WMG: The Mandarin is another ruse like in ''Film/IronMan3'']]
Playing off the twist in that movie, the Mandarin is a person who believes in his own ways, (Salador San comes to mind as a feasible choice) but in actuality, he's being backed by [[spoiler: Renly]] as a way to undercut all the other crowns by going for their finances and leaning on the Iron Bank. And since Tony is heading there on behalf of the Lannisters, it's a perfect time for the more clear message of [[spoiler: Renly]] naming himself the author of all Tony's pain, and proclaiming, "I AM THE MANDARIN!"
* {{Inverted|Trope}} - [[spoiler:Renly]] claims to be the Mandarin, only for the real one to show up, declare [[spoiler:Renly]] was his puppet and decide [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's lost any use he may have had for him]].
[[WMG:Asha will become [[spoiler:Nebula]]]]
When caught by Euron Greyjoy [[spoiler:who has become the story's equivalent to Ronan]], he is mentioned to be using his knives on her scalp as he mentions that he will remake her to serve his king, [[spoiler:much like Nebula was when Thanos (the story's equivalent of the Night's King) captured her]].
* Confirmed. Euron even calls her so.
[[WMG: There is a Professor X analog somewhere in the story]]
And one of the fun gimmicks of using him will be contrasting perspectives on who he is. For the Brotherhood, he's a fool and an obstacle for Arya. For X Force, he's an ally to guide Dany's quest. For Tony? Maybe an equal to match wits with. But regardless, one of Chaos's fun parts of writing will be figuring out how to capture these varied perspectives for 1 character without true bias.
* Confirmed in Arya II of ASOM, Charles Xavier is [[spoiler:the Sealord of Braavos.]]
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* Semi-confirmed, he is a villain (and the opening POV), but he was hired post-humorously to avenge Littlefinger. [[spoiler:A Spider-Man villain does become the new Master of Coin, but it's Otto Octavius.]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Magneto actually is the father of Mystique's children, who are revealed to be Margaery and Loras Tyrell.]]
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* This pattern seems to be continuing, with [[spoiler:Margaery and Loras Tyrell, who are composited with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver killing Joffrey, framing Littlefinger for the act, resulting in his death, and killing Tywin.]]
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** {{Jossed}} as [[spoiler:Margaery and Loras Tyrell are actually the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, respectively.]]
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[[WMG: Robb Stark will become Venom]]
Currently he's being held captive by Euron, who's made clear that he intends to use him for experiments with the symbiote pool. Robb will be the success, his Stark constitution being the key to him not dying messily. Agent Venom in the comics was part of the Guardians of the Galaxy for a time, plus Eddie Brock styled himself as a "Lethal Protector," which can fit into Book 3's themes.
Currently he's being held captive by Euron, who's made clear that he intends to use him for experiments with the symbiote pool. Robb will be the success, his Stark constitution being the key to him not dying messily. Agent Venom in the comics was part of the Guardians of the Galaxy for a time, plus Eddie Brock styled himself as a "Lethal Protector," which can fit into Book 3's themes.
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[[WMG: Robb Stark will become Venom]]
Currently he's being held captive by Euron, who's made clear that he intends to use him for experiments with the symbiote pool. Robb will be the success, his Stark constitution being the key to him not dying messily. Agent Venom in the comics was part of the Guardians of the Galaxy for a time, plus Eddie Brock styled himself as a "Lethal Protector," which can fit into Book 3's themes.
** Confirmed, and it looks like Roslin might've gotten a symbiote too.
Currently he's being held captive by Euron, who's made clear that he intends to use him for experiments with the symbiote pool. Robb will be the success, his Stark constitution being the key to him not dying messily. Agent Venom in the comics was part of the Guardians of the Galaxy for a time, plus Eddie Brock styled himself as a "Lethal Protector," which can fit into Book 3's themes.
** Confirmed, and it looks like Roslin might've gotten a symbiote too.
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[[WMG:Norman Osborn will be a villain for Book 4]]
''A Web Of Lies'' seems to refer to the Spider-Heroes, and there have been multiple references to Norman already. He'll enter the story by replacing Littlefinger as Master Of Coin at King's Landing.
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[[WMG: Rhaegar's powers]]
Magneto briefly mentions that Rhaegar also got powers from the Tragedy Of Summerhall. While it's unlikely that his abilities will actually get revealed, it's still fun to speculate on what they were.
** A CompellingVoice
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[[WMG: Littlefinger's TrialByCombat will benefit the Others somehow]]
Both Sandor - as the Crown's champion - and Tywin - who appointed him - are being manipulated by the Night's Queen. The question is who will win, and what will be gained by it.
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* Tyrion Lannister. The new king of the Metal and Marvels will be a man dealing with how TheMagicComesBack. Having Dr. Strange as that king with a sharp mind and a cool temper would make for the last laugh for the distant relative of Steve Rodgers.Rogers.
