To-do list:
- Since Turtle Power is now a redirect to Index in a Half Shell, move any examples that fit other tropes on the latter, and remove any examples that are simply about turtles existing.
- Character is turtle-inspired creature: 19/53 or 35.8%
- Character is a turtle: 7/53 or 13.2%
- Character is a magical turtle: 3/53 or 5.7%
- Character has turtle-inspired powers: 2/53 or 3.8%
- Turtle-inspired mech: 2/53 or 3.8%
- Pet turtle: 2/53 or 3.8%
- Turtles are part of the work: 5/53 or 9.4%
- Ancient turtle species appears: 3/53 or 5.7%
- Other: 4/53 or 7.5%
- ZCE/LCE: 6/53 or 11.3%
What to do? "Characters whose designs are inspired by turtles" comprises the biggest chunk of wicks. Is that trope-worthy? Regardless, this trope with its current definition is chairs and should either be overhauled or cut.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 4th 2022 at 5:52:08 AM
I think "X Exists" indexes are a problem similar to the "Works about X" indexes and wouldn’t mind cutting it alongside Turtle Power or I guess turning the page into a disambiguation.
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the Retromancer
Cut/Redirect Turtle Power.
Edited by Amonimus on Sep 28th 2022 at 6:06:14 PM
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I'm leaning towards redirect.
You didn't see anything.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
I have no problems with cutting, redirecting, or merging Turtle Power.
Kirby is awesome.
I'd personally suggest cutting Turtle Power and merging Index in a Half Shell with Shell Tropes and Reptile and Amphibian Tropes, whichever tropes fit which more.
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I'm in favour of turning both Turtle Power and Index in a Half Shell into redirects to Shell Tropes. Not all of the tropes on the index belong there, but the names and references emphasize the protective shell.
I'd also be okay with both being cut, but redirect over cut. I'm against disambiguation.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Almost all the tropes listed on Index in a Half Shell are also on Shell Tropes as well, so I guess they can be merged safely. Those that don't fit the latter (e.g. Wise Old Turtle) can be merged to Reptile and Amphibian Tropes.
As for Turtle Power, I agree with ![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
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Edited by Adept on Sep 28th 2022 at 9:59:43 PM
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Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Sep 28th 2022 at 12:22:53 PM
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Why not split this trope into one trope being about heroic turtles and another one being about villainous turtles?
Edited by Smashman2893 on Sep 28th 2022 at 10:03:49 AM
Do turtles have specific Animal Stereotypes that can lend itself to heroism or villainy? We don't want this to be a meaningless list of "heroic/villainous character happens to be a turtle", which aren't really tropes.
nothing in the wick check is pointing to a good turtle/bad turtle split.
also we generally don't do "animal but good/bad" tropes unless there's a notable stereotype for it. And even so, in this case Reptiles Are Abhorrent would cover evil turtles. I don't particularly see turtles as constantly being heroic so I question that even being a trope.
Edited by amathieu13 on Sep 28th 2022 at 10:19:54 AM
Just stoic wisdom.
Only things I can think of being associated with turtles/tortoises are age and toughness. No morality associations.
Edited by Yindee on Sep 28th 2022 at 10:30:20 AM
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I think with Sturdy and Steady Turtles and Wise Old Turtle all widespread turtle stereotypes are already covered, so there's no point in keeping this trope, let alone splitting into two more.
Edit: I realize that the (arguably) most famous heroic turtles Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles don't fit into either trope. But that because they are intentionally made to play against stereotype.
Edited by kundoo on Sep 28th 2022 at 10:28:50 AM
You didn't see anything.
the Retromancer
"heroic/villainous turtle" is not a stereotype or a trope, it's a not-even-common coincidence.
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How sweet it is
I'll start a crowner with the proposed options.
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I advertised the crowner on ATT.
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Just stoic wisdom.
Do all crowners get advertised there?
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Well, not Image Pickin', but TRS and Wiki Talk ones typically do.
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Oct 1st 2022 at 1:23:57 PM
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I added an option for merging Index in a Half Shell with Reptile and Amphibian Tropes, which was my original suggestion and not Shell Tropes.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Calling in favor of turning Turtle Power into a redirect to Index in a Half Shell while not doing anything with the latter.
Edit: Done. Here are the wicks.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 4th 2022 at 5:17:26 AM
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I'll go ahead and archive the wick check:
This wick check is to determine to usage of Turtle Power, whose laconic is simply "Turtles are awesome."
Wicks located: 50/50
Wicks checked: 53/50
- Characters.Bloodstained Ritual Of The Night: He is essentially a were-turtle, a humanoid demon whose lower body is a huge turtle shell, which completely protects him from harm while he's inside it, and has flippers for feet. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Characters.Infinity Train Crown Of Thorns Miraculous World: He's the Kwami of the Turtle Miraculous. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Characters.Kirby Beast Pack: They're enemies based on snapping turtles that are impervious to Kirby's normal attacks, and Tortuilding can put up one hell of a fight against an unprepared player. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Characters.Miraculous Ladybug Kwamis: The turtle-themed Fairy Companion to The Chooser of the One. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Characters.Return Of Ultraman: Specifically, it's a softshell turtle. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Characters.Return Of Ultraman: Kingstron, who looks sorta like Black King as a turtle. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Creator.Cordwainer Smith: T'ruth from On the Storm Planet, a Turtle-Girl with extremely powerful psychic abilities. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- DarthWiki.The Guild Of Rienna: Handler is a fairly experienced and bossy Grotle that won't back against any threat and who eventually evolves into Torterra. Goes under the name Fudoah dervived from a word for meadows. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- FantasticRacism.Live Action TV: Grimm: ...centuries-long brutal persecution of Wesen is common. Monroe even says that Pogroms and Witch Hunts were actually anti-Wesen attacks and also Nick’s ancestors sometimes killed even peaceful and harmless Wesens like the Genio innocuo. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Fridge.To Be A Miraculous Master: Wayzz as a Torterra, a green turtle in tune with nature. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- MagnificentBastard.Power Rangers: Series.Power Rangers Time Force: Turtlecon is a particularly intelligent turtle-themed Mutant criminal with the ability to create his own pocket dimension. Luring the Rangers into a trap, Turtlecon sends them into this dimension, where they have to face off against doppelgängers of themselves who are specially designed to beat them. Turtlecon effortlessly hunts them down and is seconds away from destroying them before his dimension is shattered. Even then, Turtlecon swears not to go down without a fight, enlarges himself and creates a copy of their Megazord to nearly allow him victory. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Main.Badass Arm Fold: VideoGame.Rift: ...this is the default idle pose for a male bahmi character on a tartagon mount. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- MuggingTheMonster.Webcomics: Webcomic.Slightly Damned: While in St. Curtis, a khamega tries to steal Kieri's pet golden wyvern... not on her watch. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- PhantasyStarOnline2.Tropes N To Z: Zeshrayda looks like some unholy fusion of Blastoise and Gamera. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Pokemon.Tropes J To R: Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot: Blastoise, the water jet cannon tortoise. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Recap.Asuras Wrath E 8 Willing Sacrifices: Here the Gohma Squasher is introduced, a massive turtle-like miniboss Gohma. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- Recap.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic IDW Annual 2021: "Eureka!" Moment: When Maud points that the Carbunkappas have been eating the newly-discovered cavern's galena stones, causing a build up of lead dust, Mage Meadowbrook realises that the illness Jenn has been suffering from is lead poisoning. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- VideoGame.Mechanic Man: When CU Flare jumps, he tucks his head and limbs in, becoming invincible until he lands. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- WebOriginal.Hamsters Paradise: The shingles are rattiles that in essence serve as tortoise-analogues, though they have plated shells as opposed to a single solid carapace. An aquatic offshoot of the shingles called the sterapins evolve in the Temperocene that fill a sea turtle-like niche. a character is a turtle-inspired creature
- TabletopGame.Battle Tech: Stone Wall: While many mechs are heavily armoured, the most triumphant example is undoubtedly the aptly-named Great Turtle. It's a quadrupedal mech, which means it can mount more armour than a biped, and weighs 100 tons, giving it the maximum armour potential of any mech outside Superheavy designs. It mounts the maximum possible amount of armour, but what really makes the Great Turtle this trope is the type of armour it mounts; Hardened Armour, which reduces all damage taken by half. On top of that is the fact that its cockpit is torso-mounted, meaning it can keep fighting even if its head gets blown off. The downside is its low mobility and relative lack of weapons, although the former is mostly offset by its Jump Jets. a mech is a turtle-inspired mech
- VideoGame.Chousoku Henkei Gyrozetter: The Mazda Biante Gyrozetter is a bipedal turtle with a singular BFG on its back. a mech is a turtle-inspired mech
- Series.Elementary: Clyde the tortoise is taken in by Sherlock after his owner is murdered. Sherlock thinks he makes a good paperweight and alarm clock. (The show alternately uses "turtle" and "tortoise" to describe him.) there be pet turtle
- Series.Rizzoli And Isles: Maura's pet, Bass. He's a tortoise! there be pet turtle
- Characters.Let It Die: Turtles can take a fair number of stomps to daze or kill, and their retaliatory attacks can hit rather hard if you're not careful. a character is a turtle
- Characters.The Looney Tunes Show: Though unusual in being unambiguously malevolent. a character is a turtle
- FurryConfusion.Disney And Pixar: With all of this in mind, The Lion King level in Kingdom Hearts II is just a carnival of Furry Confusion. Donald is temporarily a non-anthro bird who can fly, Pete is a non-anthro cat (more specifically, a lion), while Goofy is, out of all animals, a tortoise. a character is a turtle
- Literature.Babar: The turtle leader from "Babar's Triumph", who stays on Babar's side even when the other animals get intimidated by Rataxes and helps in the fight against the Hunter. a character is a turtle
- Literature.Yertle The Turtle And Other Stories: Played with; Yertle the Turtle isn't outright evil, just greedy. He was, however, an allegorical stand in for Hitler as Dr. Seuss stated in an interview. a character is a turtle
- MagicTheGathering.Gameplay Tropes R To Z: Turtles are classic low power/high toughness creatures which, unusually for most creatures, can be found as both Blue and Green with regularity. Horned Turtle is a classic example, while others include the plain ol' Giant Turtle and Giant Tortoise. The slowest turtle is the Meandering Towershell, which moves so slowly that whenever it attacks, it takes a turn to actually reach your opponent. a character is a turtle
- Recap.Furry Fight Chronicles A 1 P 2 C 9 Are You Even A Woman: Dinedon is a turtle and the manager of Team Executor. a character is a turtle
- Characters.The Swan Princess: Tortoise power makes him speedy in the water and very durable. there be turtles
- Fanfic.Prehistoric Park Returned From Extinction: The park is also home to modern turtles, including alligator snapping turtles. One wild snapping turtle ends up being eaten by Terence. there be turtles
- Funny.Critical Role Campaign Two: Caleb and/or Jester using Polymorph to turn dangerous enemies into (usually) non aggressive animals so they don't have to face them in combat. They turn them into turtles most of the time... despite Fjord's protests, as he developed a phobia for turtles when Caleb turned a Dybbuk who frightened him into "a giant turtle" and he was not able to shake off the effect even if he was rolling with advantage. there be turtles
- Laconic.Prehistoric Life Ankylosaurs: They're not tortoises. there be turtles
- PlayingWith.Removable Shell: Enforced: "It'll be funny and cute to see a turtle take his shell off!" there be turtles
- Characters.Naruto Tailed Beasts: It's a giant three-tailed turtle. a character is a magical turtle
- Characters.Yu Gi Oh Card Game C: Emerald Tortoise; it also has the ability to put the Crystal Beasts that have just attacked into the much safer Defense Position. a character is a magical turtle
- Literature.Savage Divinity: Ping Ping is a massive ancient turtle capable of eating Kraken that follows Rain around like an oversized dog. [[spoiler:Pong Pong is a tiny turtle that is even ''more powerful''. Ping Ping later joins Pong Pong when she ascends and becomes a true Divine Turtle.]] a character is a magical turtle
- Characters.Power Rider Story Keeper Protagonists: Mighty Glacier: Compared to the agile and well-rounded Story Keeper, Roaring Wave, and Thunder Slash, Strife clearly relies on a high rate of power and defense. This is not only due to his elemental affinity, but also his Fragment Tale, based off a turtle, known for their own defenses...let alone a mythical one. a character has turtle-inspired powers
- Characters.Power Rider Story Keeper Protagonists: His primary Fragment Tale, Black Turtle Legend. a character has turtle-inspired powers
- Characters.Gigantosaurus: Well, he's an Archelon to be more specific. a character is an ancient turtle species
- Fanfic.Prehistoric Park Returned From Extinction: The park is home to prehistoric turtles, including the titanic Hesperotestudo. Among its marine residents is the Cretaceous sea turtle Desmatochelys. a character is an ancient turtle species
- VideoGame.Jurassic Park Builder: The Aquatic Park features Archelon, famously the largest turtle of all. Although not turtles, the Henodus and Psephoderma are similar in appearance and share its animations. The Glacier Park meanwhile has Meiolania, one of the largest tortoises. Indeed they can be powerful, but they can just as easily be defeated. a character is an ancient turtle species
- Characters.Jurassic World Evolution: Its head is very tortoise-like in appearance, right down to its beak. a dinosaur has turtle-like features
- Fanfic.The Many Worlds Interpretation: Raj the devout Hindu believes absolutely in Great A'Tuin the world-turtle. It's the founding point of Hindu cosmology, after all. However, Dr Koothrapali the academic cosmologist has difficulties fitting the Discworld into the standard Hertzsprung-Russell curve. there be turtle beliefs
- HetaliaAxisPowers.Q To Z: This comic illustrates an actual incident when a bunch of baby turtles wandered into a cafe in Italy. turtle incident
- Recap.Samurai Sentai Shinkenger Ep 01 The Gallant Appearance Of The Five Samurai: Animal Motifs: Mako is the turtle. there be turtle motif
- Characters.Digimon Fusion Fusion Fighters: ZCE
- Characters.Final Fantasy V: Naturally. ZCE commented out.
- Characters.Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Rangers: Based on one. LCE
- Franchise.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Trope Namer, given the main characters. LCE
- SelfDemonstrating.Michelangelo: Shell yeah, dudes! ZCE
- WebVideo.Lonelygirl 15: Owen. ZCE commented out.
How sweet it is
Epitaph's already up. I may have went with the obvious reference...
Anyways, I'll pitch in with the wick cleaning.
Edit: Added to next month's Trope Report draft.
Edited by Berrenta on Oct 4th 2022 at 7:06:36 AM
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By the way, do we have a trope for turtles that symbolize longevity, or long-lived turtles in general? Can those go to Wise Old Turtle?
This is done except for some sandboxes and a wick on a Magnificent Bastard page that I've already requested be removed.
Crown Description:
Turtle Power has been treated as "turtles exist". It was also noted that Index In A Half Shell may be redundant with Shell Tropes. What action(s) should be taken?
Edited by amathieu13 on Sep 28th 2022 at 5:54:52 AM