- Gaia is actually the planet where most of the Dragon Ball story unfolds, but it was gradually destroyed after being hit with so many overpowered attacks.
- Very funny. Jossed. The Final Fantasy series have nothing to do with the Dragon Ball series whatsoever.
- Never stopped these WMGs from popping up before
Necron is Chaos
Necron is the incarnation of Kuja's despair
Just before the final boss battle in Final Fantasy IV, the final Man Behind the Man and ultimate Big Bad, Zemus, is killed in a cutscene by FuSoYa and Golbez while the party watches. Unfortunately, Zemus's hatred was so strong that after Zemus was killed, the hatred itself took on a physical form, the Nigh-Invulnerable Zeromus. As Final Fantasy IX is a deliberate Homage to earlier Final Fantasy games, when Kuja dies in the presence of the life-granting Crystal, his despair is so powerful that it, too, is given form, creating a being that exists solely to annihilate the universe because "all things live to perish." Furthermore, Necron's dying words and Zeromus's dying words are very similar:I will not...perish...so long as evil...dwells in the hearts...of mankind. G...gh... GRRRAAGH!
"This is not the end."
"I am eternal..."
"...as long as there is life and death..."
Necron is the Final Boss of Final Fantasy III
The final boss of Final Fantasy III is the Cloud of Darkness. In Final Fantasy III, if the Balance between Light and Darkness gets messed up, whichever power is stronger will overwhelm the other and destroy the world. During the course of the game, you learn that in the past, the Warriors of Darkness defeated an out-of-control incarnation of the power of Light (which would have burned the world to a crisp). This time, Darkness has become too powerful, and your party, the Warriors of Light, eventually end up having to battle against the Cloud of Darkness, which is going to return the world to nothingness. The literal translation of Necron's Japanese name is "Darkness of Eternity", and it wants to do the same thing as the Cloud of Darkness: turn the world into a state of nothingness. Again, it's one of Final Fantasy IX's many Shout Outs to earlier games in the series.Necron is actually Doctor Manhattan.
The resemblence is all there in the boss battle: Necron is (pale) blue, bald, and the humanoid half of his body is certainly muscular enough. So obviously, after leaving Earth, Doctor Manhattan spends many centuries refining his powers before setting forth on his mission to create life: in this respect, he creates life on several formerly barren planets — two of which are Terra and Gaia. He also gives several of his engineered species latent supernatural powers in the form of magic, before retreating to the Crystal World, the replacement for the totalled Glass Palace left back on Mars. However, after watching his creations war and kill over the next several million years, he begins to lose faith in life again. By the time Kujah's Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum comes to a close, Doctor Manhattan is ready to obliterate all his old work in the new galaxy and focus on something different. However, his defeat forces him into yet another epiphany, and he decides to give his creations another chance.- And Zidane's speech about not being afraid and wishing to live on (and proving his desire to live by fighting and triumphing), reminded him of his epiphany, years and years and years ago, on Mars about how truly miraculous life is. Also, Necron/Manhattan's proclamation of being eternal was just an echo of his final line in Watchmen: "'In the end'? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends.'"
Necron is Nyx.
After all, at the end of the battle, you don't defeat him. You just save yourself, and he goes away. Which makes sense, since he's the Anthropomorphic Personification of Death itself.- Does that mean that Kuja's the Nyx Avatar? That makes too much sense. -sighs-
Necron is Death.
As in The Grim Reaper. Anthropomorphic Personification and all that Jazz. The fight against him happens for EVERYBODY when they die, which happens to the heroes after Trance Kuja takes them down with him. The reason it doesn't happen to you earlier in the game is because you couldn't possibly win against him up until the Endgame. The reason he acts like Zeromus is to trick the heroes into wanting to fight him; since they're clearly good people who really don't deserve to die, he decides to not give them a choice as to whether or not to take the test to come back to life.- But then who's that skull-faced guy with the Sinister Scythe who shows up when you cast Death spells?
- Perhaps a fragmented aspect of Necron. That facet is the physical embodiment of mortality, of the end of a living being. Necron itself is DEATH. The end of all things. Of Stars, of worlds, of every single thing that is
- But then who's that skull-faced guy with the Sinister Scythe who shows up when you cast Death spells?
Necron is the final boss of Final Fantasy IX.
And nothing more. Square left his real identity ambiguous because we don't need to know it.- Now that's just crazy.
Necron lives in the Moongle's red pompom.
Necron is Nekron
- Not only are the names similar, but they have the same motivation and personificational aspects.
Necron is Ash's Father.
Necron is a fal'Cie.
The fal'Cie were created to find the "Unseen World" while Bhunivelze slept for eternity. The main antagonists of XIII, its sequels, and Type-0 were all fal'Cie trying to open Etro's Gate, the only barrier blocking the "Unseen Realm." Each fal'Cie tries its own method to try to open the Gate, with Necron's method being destroying an entire world, and forcing Etro's Gate open. Pretty much just like what the Cocoon fal'cie tried to do, but on a much larger scale. All he needed was a world with enough rage and despair to fuel his destructive power. Enter Kuja, who couldn't deal with the fact that his expiration date was right around the corner.Necron is the Void
Necron's Japanese name is more like "Eternal Darkness" than anything to do with death. Kuja's final Ultima destroyed the Crystal, returning reality to the Void. The personification of the Void appears (thematically, the Grim Reaper of universes), but is beaten back by Zidance and co. This drives back the Void long enough for their memories to restore the universe, somewhat like Doctor Who's 'Big Bang 2'. This also makes him a perfect thematic match for one of IX's major themes: the existential fear of oblivion.Necron is the eidolon representing fear of oblivion.
Somewhat related, this seems to be a popular Japanese theory. Kuja's last vindictive act basically 'summons' Necron from the Crystal. Eidolons are born from memories, myths, and legends, so Necron is the embodiment of every being's fear of death/oblivion, made manifest by Kuja's incredible power. The fact Kuja summoned it is the reason it bears Terran motifs, such as the focus on eyes and the resemblance to the faces of Oeilvert.- Another possibility along these lines is that the Terrans as a whole unintentionally created Necron as they fell into despair by their failure to stop the Decline.
- It would technically be more correct to say "Edward is Zidane in an AU", since FFIX was released before FMA began publication (2000 and 2001, respectively), but I may be just nitpicking here. There's actually MUCH more to it than that. Besides the obvious similarities in their appearances and personalities, there are multiple instances where the link can be made: Edward has been called a "monkey" (by Nr. 48, in Laboratory 5) and "thief" (by Mustang when he lends him money), and both have a little brother figure (Vivi and Al), whose relationship with them kind of echoes each other. Their differing behaviors can easily be explained by the setting they live in, the way they were brought up, and what hardships they've gone through: had Zidane been more used to Heroic BSoD-inducing situations, like Edward is, he would've shrugged that whole "I'm actually from Terra" business much more easily (and he still does it rather quickly). Not even in the English version of Dissidia are they immune to the "link": sure, Zidane is not voiced by Vic Mignogna, but rather by Bryce Papenbrook. Now, Bryce has done a character in the .hack//Legend of the Twilight anime, named Shugo, who, in Japanese, was voiced by Junko Minagawa, who is often mistaken for Romi Paku... And guess who she voiced in the radio drama of FMA? ...I'm actually thinking of writing a whole paper on this, because it's just too blatant and I'm that crazy.
- Point, and he's been called monkey more than then, since I've gone deeper into FMA, he also was called monkey in Rush Valley after getting stolen from by Paninya. I don't know why I never updated with more, deeper, similarities.
- However, Kuja is known for being tall in the original FFIX, so his being average in height in Dissidia either means that everyone else is fairly tall (which is a fair assumption for the villains) or they undercompensated for the Chibi style of FFIX. Zidane might not be particularly tall in FFIX, but he didn't seem to be child-sized when compared to the few normally sized humans (ie, not Steiner and Amarant) who were shown in cutscenes.
- Kuja was still barely alive when Zidane went for him. It was not shown but it is very obvious that he used his last remaining energy to shield Zidane from harm, thus him being able to return to Garnet and have their happy ending together.
- Given how strong his magic is he might more along the lines of a Sage.
- I always put down Freya as a liar about her class; she may be able to jump, but she has the "Dragon" skills that are kinda-magic (even if the only ones I ever used were Rei's Wind and Lancet). White hair, awesome red hat with decoration...
- Those aren't decorations. Those are her ears.
- The bat wing looking things? Yeah no, those are not her ears, they're a part of her hat.
- Ear covers, then, since they're in the exact same spot as the ears are on every other burmecian.
- Fanfic into the trash bin but I won't do that. The Final Fantasy series has nothing to do with all the Anime out there whatsoever.
- Except that Eiko is a White Mage with some Summoner traits while Relm is a virtuoso. Also, Amarant doesn't have a dog and his father is not shown so jossed.
- Makes sense, though she had no need to level grind seeing as she spent quite a while slaughtering her way through a few civilizations before she switches sides, XP gain just makes sense.
- Doesn't really make sense since she strikes you with it after a while, even if you don't attack her at all. She toys with the player party for a while, and then shows her might.
- Unlike other beings Beatrix came across, the party members are "special". Them having Trance, something which Beatrix herself doesn't have and she is probably as surprised as Steiner when he witnessed Zidane's Trance, except that she does not show it.
- Not confirmed but not jossed either. Before becoming the overweight guy he is, Baku was probably just like Zidane back then.
- Entirely possible! Though I don't know the source and cannot prove this, I once read that the Final Fantasy games were confirmed to have taken place in the same universe, just the planets are no doubt many, many light years apart if this is truly the case.
- Dissidia brought everyone together. In fact, Final Fantasy VI, V and IV were all connected in some ways. But even so, Garland did not create Jenova so jossed.
- Nah, the Terrans wanted to merge with planets that had "pure crystals", which I assume means no life (as the crystals govern souls). They didn't want life to develop there. If Terra had been eying Gaia since before there was even any land on it, they'd have had plenty of time to fuse the planets before entire civilizations were developed on Gaia. Granted, maybe their sense of time is a bit off considering how long they "live," but I wouldn't think Garland would go thousands or millions of years before noticing, "Oops, Gaia has people now. When did that happen?" Rather, what probably happened was Terra stumbled upon Gaia long after life had developed and it was just their only option. As for why the Genomes are so much like humans... I'd say that these specific Genomes were designed by Garland to mimic humans after observing life on Gaia, and that Terrans actually used to have some other form. Only problem with that is the giant stone faces in Oeilvert look human.... Summoners, presumably, just branched off a little from humans some centuries back.
- Alternately, Kuja still harbored some kind of lingering fellow feeling or fondness for the younger Genome, despite hiding it really, really well. This actually makes Zidane choosing to go back for him twice as touching.
- Don't the rest of the Tantalus (sans Ruby, who isn't an orphan) also share names with the characters? Baku probably named them; Marcus, who seems the oldest, even has the name of the main character of the play. Garland calls Zidane by that name as a Sure Why Not moment.
- Why would Mount Gulug be on a different planet than Garland's homeworld?
- Presumably, it's really New Gulug, named after the original Mount Gulug during that time back in the depths of history when Garland had Terra invade Gaia conventionally. Presumably, the name stuck after the Terrans retreated, but the Gaians dropped the "New" part of the name because they didn't know about the original.
- According to Ultimania, after Garland's failed attempt to merge the two planets into one, some of the locations from Terra ended up on Gaia, Mount Gulug being one if them. So it IS the original Mount Gulug from Garland's homeworld.
- Presumably, it's really New Gulug, named after the original Mount Gulug during that time back in the depths of history when Garland had Terra invade Gaia conventionally. Presumably, the name stuck after the Terrans retreated, but the Gaians dropped the "New" part of the name because they didn't know about the original.
- Actually, if you look at the world◊ maps◊ of both versions, they're quite similar. (The former is FFI, the latter is FFIX.)
- Aside from the fact that the land tends to be concentrated in the four corners of the map, those maps aren't similar at all.
Both are human, yet not human, and both wear a speedo/thong. Difference is Franky is good and the epitome of manliness, Kuja is VERY effeminate and evil.
Vivi and the rest of the black mages somehow found a way to create other black mages that wouldn't have such a restricted lifespan. They could have worked with the Genomes to find the right way to go about it. So Vivi's children aren't strictly his, but they are black mages created by his idea to give black mages a longer lifespan. So they're more the children of his idea.
In theory, that is an alternate way to break the FF1 time loop. It removes the need to send Garland back in time, and the Four Fiends' origin. But because evil won in the end, the world turns out darkly. The Lufenish retain their supertechnology, but the crystals are still drained for reasons no one is capable of seeing.
The desparate Lufenish develop dimensional travel and soul manipulation, and eventually put together the Terrans' plans as seen in Final Fantasy 9.
For added drama, let's say that the five warriors were caught in limbo when the time loop ended, locked outside of the reincarnation cycle, until the Terrans rescued them. Garland is Garland's reincarnation, and his three angels of death are three of the four Light Warriors (Most likely Black/Red Mage, Thief, and White Mage).
In a related note:
I'm guessing Zero was a Warrior in contrast with the more magic-based reapers developed later.
- Word of God put's Cid's age at thirty-five, but he and Hilda have clearly been married for at least a decade since Garnet has no memory of them being otherwise, so this could still be true.
- ...Is this really Wild Mass Guessing?
- Unless the genomes by default are as short-lived as any mortals, in which case Kuja's mortality would be a case of not having modded in any changes to that. Presumably such mortality is to enable adaptation to changing circumstances and reproduction and the like once the souls are in place.
Explained here: http://katersgonnak8.tumblr.com/post/44007469949/kates-super-crack-final-fantasy-headcanons
As the original Tumblr post has been deleted;
Ruby is the true Princess of Alexandria.
- In Ruby's concept art, her skin is actually a light blue colour. That would make her and Queen Brahne the only two humanoids we meet who have blue skin. Coincidence? Ruby's skin could be more lightly coloured because she takes after her presumably lighter-skinned father. While Ruby and Garnet don't look terribly alike as adults, they both have similar figures and both are quite attractive. And as small children tend to look quite similar to one another, it's very possible that they resembled each other when they were younger. They also appear to be around the same age, give or take a couple of years.
- Ruby and Garnet are also both named after a red coloured precious stone. Better yet, garnets are sometimes known as 'false rubies'. Additionally, Ruby is the only member of Tantalus who isn't named after a character in Lord Avon's plays.
- It may be worth noting that Mikoto is part of the default name selection for the White Mage in remakes of Final Fantasy 1.
- That would also explain why he and Beatrix are so willing to commit 'minor' war crimes. such as commanding no quarter, and participating in genocide, do something terrible so something worse doesn't happen.
- Zidane:
- Bryce Papenbrook reprising his role.
- Zeno Robinson.
- Garnet:
- Vivi:
- Melissa Disney reprising her role.
- Kath Soucie reprising her role.
- Casey Mongillo.
- Steiner:
- Freya:
- Quina:
- Eiko:
- Jessie Flower reprising her role.
- Kuja:
- JD Cullum reprising his role.
- Benjamin Diskin.
- Andrew Rannells if they want a Celebrity Voice Actor.
- Beatrix:
- Garland:
- Blank:
- Marcus:
- Cinna:
- Ruby:
- Baku:
- Cid: