- Thusly, Anima is Unit 01. There is a very strong resemblance between Anima and 01, especially if you compare when 01 was heavily bandaged. Whats more, Anima's many restraints (chains, hooks and arms strangling itself) are analogous to the armor worn by Eva 01 to inhibit it, and both reveal their true power by seemingly effortlessly bypassing said Restraining Bolt.
- Agreed, this
is EVA, this
◊ is Anima. Hopefully your plans for the near future didn't involve sleep...
- Agreed, this
- Actually, it would explain a lot about Blitzball if it was actually being played in LCL. The ability to breathe normally, the way solid objects move and pass through it as if it were air...
- The Bevelle-Zanarkand War 1000 years ago probably represents Second Impact, Sin is the Angels... so then, who's Gendo? And whom do the player characters represent?
- Well, Evangelion and FFX both have a Five-Man Band, so presumably the two are linked in some way. However since Shinji is evil in this world, perhaps Tidus is supposed to be a shadow of Seymour or something.
- Gendo is Jyscal Guado, but Shinji/Seymour took on a Gendo like role, because after all, it was alluded Shinji and Gendo are not so different.
- Let's see, both him and Shino wear sunglasses, high collars, and have stoic personalities. His father is an even bigger Expy (depending on who came first). The reason he left the clan was because, like Lee, wasn't able to use Nin or Genjutsu, so he went on to be a swordsman.
- I always assumed something along the lines of "liquid oxygen" or something being what filled the spheres during blitzball games.
- Do you have any idea how cold oxygen has to be to liquefy? Oxygen, the element, has to be nearly -300°F to become a liquid.
- There are oxygen rich liquids that can actually be 'breathed'. I believe theyre usually used for deep sea diving, to help equalize pressures.
- Or that Spiran "humans" really are humanoids who have a limited, but not entirely explained, amphibious aspect to their physiology.
- Nice theory, but it's scientifically confirmed in Truth in Television, that one's lungs will enlarge when spending long times underwater, allowing to hold more air. Maybe it's just all the practice?
- In the interquel movie "Eternal Calm", set between X and X-2, Yuna is seen training to hold her breath for long periods of time, so it does seem that it's all down to extensive training. In the first game, one of the Aurochs also mentions that it takes a lot of training to become a blitzball player, and says that the very best blitzball players can even sleep underwater...
- ... which still wouldn't work, if only because cells need oxygen. I vote a combination of slightly-different-physiology and training.
- Troper Kazmahu I figured that all water in Spira was oxygen-soaked and breathable, but because Humans are still land-based, even trying makes most people panic, gag and try for the surface. "Holding one's breath" is a carryover colloquialism for the psychological training needed to breathe liquid for periods of time without having a panic attack.
- Do you have any idea how cold oxygen has to be to liquefy? Oxygen, the element, has to be nearly -300°F to become a liquid.
- Blitzballers are mutants, either by birth or by some kind of eldritch alteration, and possess a set of water-breathing gills. It explains everything, including the bizarre designs of the team uniforms. (They all cover the sides of the ribs.)
- This also explains why Yuna didn't drown in the kiss scene. Tidus was passing oxygen to her, mouth-to-mouth, like the mermaids in Hook.
- Not quite - Jassu, the Auroch player, apparently knows his name. After the Sending in Kilika, the Aurochs will be working on repairing the damaged homes - approaching the site causes Jassu to say (in text boxes, of course) something along the lines of "Watch your step, Tidus!".
- Jassu miraculously gained the ability to read minds from the aforementioned oxygen deprivation brain damage.
- This also explains why the grammatical structures of Al Bhed differ from normal English.
- Following from that, Yevon (the organization) is run by the Anti-Spirals, who have managed to successfully subjugate most of humanity and turn them against the descendants of Team Dai-Gurren. Sin is an Anti-Spiral construct created to inspire fear and restrain the Spiral Instinct. Notice that the plot begins with the appearance of the Hot-Blooded Memetic Badass Jecht, who is clearly the reincarnation of Kamina, who true to form, really sets things up for his son, Tidus. Which leads to Fridge Brilliance upon realizing that of COURSE Tidus isn't as manly as his dad! a) Kamina is one of the manliest characters in all of fiction to begin with, and b) Kamina/Jecht's manliness was diluted by his wife, but was made up for it with Tidus not inheriting the Leeroy Jenkins trait, which would only have gotten him killed sooner as he isn't quite manly enough to get away with it.

- There's one little problem with that: Kefka is freakin' evil!
- Hence the "Alternate Universe" thing, FFX may just be set in an alt-universe where its kefka is a good guy.
- Jossed, the superboss in Via Infinito called Paragon is Yunalesca's Final Aeon.
- Since it's possible for Final Aeons to survive as Fiends after being killed, like what happened to Paragon, there is absolutely nothing stopping Penance from being Gandof's Final Aeon. Also, The Battle between Sin and Gandof's Final Aeon created the Calm Lands Gorge. That's exactly where Penance first appeared from when he first awoke. Probably a coincidence, but it DOES make sense.
- Possibly confirmed by my own WMG: Anima (Mommy Dearest) appears to be Seymour's Final Aeon, which he chose to keep on a leash instead of fulfilling his destiny as sacrificial lamb. Making Seymour's mother rather Lucrecia Crescent, and the aeon itself a bit Jenova-ish. But anyway, Anima's power is strong because she's an FA, but she did NOT defeat Sin. Nor could she. Try summoning Anima as Yuna during the final Sin Boss Battles. She's too slow, and Sin would probably munch the airship long before Anima won, unless you'd overleveled her greatly. — auronlu
- Isn't it canon that Final Summons are much stronger (for their Summoner) because of the emotional link that affects how the aeon works?
- Yes, but shouldn't Seymour's Anima have been much more powerful than Yuna's? Seymour's Anima was pretty easy to beat when we fought her. Or perhaps Gameplay and Story Segregation?
- Fridge Brilliance: Could be that Seymour's Anima was much stronger than Yuna's Anima.... relative to their level. Similar to the bosses in Final Fantasy XIII, Seymour has an extremely low level with absurdly disproportionate stats. He doesn't really seem to get out that much, so it stands to reason that Anima would also be rather low-level. The reason that Yuna's Anima is so much stronger than Seymour's is because Yuna actually does stuff, so her Anima is at a high enough level that the disproportionate stats for Seymour's Anima are pretty much a non-factor. Hypothetically, an Anima summoned by Seymour Omnis would've been about as strong as Yuna's, except that by that point he relies exclusively on going One-Winged Angel.
- I think it's confirmed - I know out of about 13 summoners in the game, 5 (including Yuna) have defeated Sin. We know Seymour wouldn't finish it, and Lulu's first charge didn't.
- Lulu's first charge was killed before she got the chance. Yunalesca, Gandof, Braska, and Yuna are the only summoners I know of who've beaten Sin. Belgemine also died, and it's implied that she died fighting Sin.
- Thinking on it further, it's possible that the emotional link powering the Final Aeon is flexible. As in, perhaps Anima would have been powerful enough to defeat Sin when she was first made into a Fayth, but as Seymour grew more corrupt and evil over time, the bond between them weakened (as shown by the fact that she actively fights against him, even) and caused her to lose power.
- In regards to the original WMG here regarding the Aeon's power being linked to the Summoner's, we know this to be true because that's how it works in the gameplay. But what if it goes further than that? As we see in both X and X-2, Yuna shares a rather deep bond with her Aeons. Perhaps an emotional link is what drives the power behind not just the Final Aeon, but ALL Aeons. The reason why the Final Aeon is so much more powerful than the others is because while a Summoner may share a powerful bond of camaraderie and friendship with their Aeons, it doesn't quite compare to the bond described by Yunalesca: That between parent and child, siblings, or lovers.
- And this falls in line with the theory that not all Final Summonings are capable of defeating Sin - if a Summoner has Guardians that they're not close to and uses them to achieve the Final Aeon, it can't possibly have the power to win. Yuna's Aeons are capable of doing so even without the Final Summoning because the bond she shares with them is extraordinarily powerful. And perhaps if it were just one or two Aeons she shared this bond with, it wouldn't be enough - but she's close to all of them. None of them are Final Aeon level, but they don't have to be if every single one of them are half-way there or more. Add in the airship and her large number of guardians, and you have a force capable of defeating Sin.
- Considering that Anima has her own temple despite being a Final Aeon, it could be possible that all of the Aeons we see are the Final Aeons of Summoners who failed to defeat Sin.
- Isn't it canon that Final Summons are much stronger (for their Summoner) because of the emotional link that affects how the aeon works?
So, some time after FFX-2, Spira invents (or reinvents, depending on if old Zanarkand/Bevelle had gotten that far) space travel. Possibly they start from existing airship technology. They discover another life-bearing planet- Gaia- and a party, including Shinra or possibly his children or grandchildren, heads out to settle it.
The Shinra Company is founded by Shinra/his direct descendants, and eventually they do something with his ideas regarding tapping the afterlife for fuel.
... Does that make Aeons the Spiran equivalent of Materia?
- Actually, when you get the first Jecht Sphere it is mentioned that spheres are formed from the weird water there, rather similar to how materia grow from crystal pools. One can assume then that, for instance, a Fire materia is a black mage's memories of using fire magic. Presumably they were created as a quick method to teach magic to people with no aptitude. Over time, people got too reliant on this method and lost the ability to remember the spells themself.
- "Materia are the memories of the Cetra" says Seph in the materia cave. And some people, like Seph and Genisis and Aerith can cast without materia, then also limit breaks are kinda self magicy. And not every Spiran is good at magic, Lulu's aptitude is unusual. (Her method of animating dolls is similar to Reeve's 'inspire' ability, even.)
- Instead of being transgender he had a seahorse pregnancy which would match up to the idea of Blitz players being able to breathe underwater. Everybody is a fish.
- Too bad you have Word of God against that argument.
- The theory is interesting, but it raises the question on the Unsent. They act as pure sapient individuals, the same people who died. I understand that "projecting memories" thing for the likes of Seymour, but that leaves to question Mika and Auron. People who acted certain ways and had knowledge the other characters lacked. If it was simple memory, how would they know these things not privy to the others?
- It is, however, the most logical explanation for the workings of the part of the Farplane which people can visit. Rikku's point about Pyreflies reacting to memories was likely a statement about that part, as they seem to react to memories of people the person knows/accepts as being dead and hopes/thinks is at peace. None of them ever interact with the living, they just float there. So there's some validity to Pyreflies having this reaction to people's memories in the right place, but it feels like the unsent that don't become fiends are some level of "proof" of something closer to a "soul" being made of Pyreflies and being made by the person themselves, not by someone else's memories.
- They are probably also descended from the people who rejected Yu Yevon's call to become fayth to summon Dream Zanarkand. Thus, Yevon villified them even further, considering them traitors.
A common complaint about Final Fantasy X is the lack of depth in Yu Yevon, who, despite being the driving force behind the story and the heart of the spiral of death, is essentially a blank slate. There is much untapped potential in his character, so it's likely that the developers, who are no doubt aware of these criticisms, will attempt to rectify them. This can be accomplished in several ways:
1) It's been confirmed that the developers intended to show portraits of Yu Yevon at some point in the original draft. This could easily be incorporated into the remake. Even better, a flashback to the final days of Zanarkand could be included, allowing us to see just what he was like, his relationship with Yunalesca, and so on. We received a brief flashback about Yunalesca and Zaon, so there's really no excuse not to give one to the primary villain himself.
2) Include more references to Yevon as a godlike figure. There are a few passing mentions of Yevon being a deity rather than simply the name of the religion, but they are so few and far-between that some players are surprised he even exists. Moreover, it could help to have religious characters like Yuna and Wakka react to the fact that their god is the one responsible for the whole mess in the first place.
3) The final battle. Yu Yevon is by far the easiest boss in the entire game; and since the Final Aeon can become something of a joke with proper grinding, the whole final confrontation becomes something of an anticlimax. Although the developers intentionally wanted to evoke a "parasitic feeling" with Yu Yevon to show what he's become, it would be interesting to see them take this idea further by turning him into a Body Horror Eldritch Abomination instead of a mere tick. It'd be especially interesting if they turned Yu Yevon into one hell of a That One Boss, possibly one that scales with the characters like Safer Sephiroth.
It's a bit unlikely that they'll completely change Yu Yevon, but the best bet is that Square Enix will at least turn him into a bitch of a final boss this time around.
Please, Square...? ;_;
Yunalesca not only looks like the Cloud of Darkness, but the CoD's attitude is what hers would be if what little remained of her humanity was stripped away. In that vein...
Word of God has already established that the world of Final Fantasy VII is the future of Final Fantasy X. X-2 establishes that the Aeons remain intact in the Farplane, so it isn't far-fetched to assume that their Fayth do as well. Furthermore, it's establish that the Aeons can still leave the Farplane under certain circumstances. What if Shuyin's corruption of the Aeons was actually a corruption of their Fayth? What if, following that corruption, the Fayth of Seymour's mother escaped from the Farplane and degraded into a Fiend? What if that Fiend was banished by a Meteor spell, only to survive it and crash along with the meteor on another planet? Both Jenova and Anima have only their left eyes exposed (and glowing), and it isn't far-fetched to believe that "Jenova" is just as obsessed with her "sons" as they are with her. Freudian Excuse, anyone?
Because how ironic would it be for the formerly demonized outcasts to have ascended to being the holy people?
- Both do have similarities. The Cetra were traveling in space before they landed on Gaia, so they had technology for space travel=machina. We see that humans and Al Bhed are cross compatible with Yuna...who has spiralless green eyes. Aerith and Seph and Ifalna all have green eyes. So maybe it was a joint human/Al Bhed venture, and they all interbred eventually; leaving green eyed human hybrids. The change from that hybrid to 'humans' came from contact with Jenova. On another note, both races have a kinda Jewish thing going. The Promised Land, Home, the use of Kalabic symbology with a Gnostic touch.
Even after the events of X, there are holdouts who cling to the thousand-year-old belief that machina is bad. Space travel, as a holy grail of technology, would be the ultimate sacrilige. A vengeful Yevonite therefore creates Jenova, a corrupted aeon not unlike Sin, and sends it chasing after the travellers. Note that Jenova even acts somewhat Sinlike, unleashing monsters on the native population while showing a strong connection to anything spawned from her. She also has a proven ability to mess with minds, just like Jenova.
Not sure if X-2 might contradict this, so it's more a guess at the original writers' intentions. Tidus isn't aware of any metaphysical mechanics of his world, but knows the prayer of Yevon in context as a blitzball gesture. The dome in real Zanarkand resembles the blitzball stadium superficially, but is the seat of Yunalesca, so has strong summoning connections - and very possibly may have had them before the war with Bevelle. The only way to exactly replicate Zanarkand while excluding summoning was to CTRL + F all references to it with something else.
- Considering the implication that they were sisters before becoming the fayth, this could mean that they were in fact, Belgemine's sisters.
1) More people died in Zanarkand during the war between Zanarkand and Bevelle (and as a result of the summoning of Sin), whereas unless Sin attacks other places, fewer people are likely to die. More deaths mean more pyreflies to draw upon. It also helps that because they die in such isolated places, there's nobody around to send them to the Farplane — so they end up turning into fiends.
2) Also, the only people who actually get to traverse Mount Gagazet and walk the path to the Temple of the Final Summoning in Zanarkand, are by that point, incredibly powerful individuals (nevermind the fact that the Ronso themselves are extremely strong), with significant bonds to the spirit world through their bond with the Fayth and the aeons, plus any magicks they might have learned along the way. This is why you end up with incredibly powerful fiends in Zanarkand and Gagazet. (Whereas people dying in places such as Besaid, Kilika, Mi'ihen and so forth, are less likely to have these abilities and bonds, and thus, less likely to result in overpowered fiends. Plus the fact these places are less isolated, and there's probably bound to be a Summoner around to perform a Sending when people do pass away.)
- This logic also works for bosses: Sinspawn and fiend bosses aren't all that powerful, except for the ones specifically sent by Yunalesca. Sinspawn Gui is not a true Sinspawn, but rather the fusion of several Sinspawn, which is why it is abnormally powerful. Evrae is not a fiend, but rather the guardian dragon of Bevelle, defending Bevelle against all threats, including Sin. The machina get progressively stronger because the Al Bhed are not trying to kill Yuna, but rather just capture her, so they try to use only the force necessary to stop her. Seymour is an experienced summoner who somehow managed to make it to Zanarkand with only his terminally ill mother for a guardian, and as an unsent, he was augmented by fusing with other unsents/fiends.
- Confirmed. The PS3 release will have X and X-2 on one disc, and the Vita release will offer each game separately. Both versions will include the International editions of each game.
- This would make sense, as Baaj is, in fact, not Anima's home temple- she was moved there shortly before the city and temple were destroyed, not long before the game began, it seems. She is also not a Baaj native, she was sent there for her safety by Jyscal. Anima likely doesn't have a temple to call her own, as her Fayth was intended to be used exclusively by Seymour, akin to a Final Aeon. This means the temple in Baaj already existed and was uninhabited when Seymour put Anima there. The fact that a gylph is present for Baaj Temple in Zanarkand means it used to be a spot Summoners always stopped in (unlike Remiem Temple, which was blocked off almost as soon as the Magus Sisters became Fayth, considering Remiem is a lost, pre-war city unaffected by Sin), and Yojimbo was moved from his original temple so Summoners couldn't complete their journey. Removing an Aeon from a pilgrimage spot would possibly do that, so it's very, very likely Baaj was Yojimbo's home long ago.
- This means that even if someone Sent them all, they (or others) would just end up there again eventually.
- This also explains the continued presence of Fiends, despite the fact that there are Sendings (though then again, nobody sends the Fiends' Pyreflies so they probably just become Fiends again)


- Bismark might be a better candidate. In fact, turns out Bismark bears an incredible resemblence to Sin in Final Fantasy XIV, so I'm happy to headcanon this one myself. As a side note, his enormous maw and gravity spells also point to Atomos.
(After Seymour killed Tidus and co):
- Let's add that a bond has to be both ways. Even if Jascal's sphere had never been found and thus Seymour's plan to marry Yuna had gone ahead, the bond wouldn't have really existed. Seymour could've played the dutiful and loving husband all he wanted to the extent that Yuna could've seriously came to love him, however Seymour himself doesn't care about Yuna, only as a tool to fulfill his ambitions. If Seymour could've convinced Yuna to make him into her Final Aeon, the bond would've been effectively nonexistent and thus lost to Sin. Seymour's plan never had any chance of success at all.
- Each Final Aeon that defeats Sin becomes Sin through a process we're not entirely privy to. However, since every Sin except the first is formed out of the Final Aeon that defeats it, each successive Sin is stronger than the last, and that's also why the Calms become shorter and shorter, because it doesn't take as much time and effort by Yu Yevon to make the next Sin with a stronger Final Aeon.
Thus, with Sin becoming stronger and stronger, eventually even the strongest Final Aeons possible couldn't hope to stand up to the last Sin, who would be completely unstoppable. Tidus and Yuna's journey was not only the only chance Spira had to stop Sin for good, but if it had failed Spira would be living on borrowed time.