Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Trope lists for each episode?, started by HiddenFacedMatt on Aug 9th 2011 at 5:35:19 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSeason 9 was terrible. We have to get Hasbro to redo some of it.
Hide / Show RepliesThe only way that could happen is through fanfiction. Hasbro’s moving on to G5, why redo one part of the last gen?
Has anyone else seen the video examples for MLP and Equestria Girls lately? Someone has been going around spamming 1 Star on everything to give the videos bad ratings. Is there anyway to get that person banned or at least remove their ratings, because most of them fit the tropes perfectly, and the bad rating is most likely just because someone has a hatred for the show.
I think there should be more entries of Easily Forgiven and Karma Houdini related to this series and related projects like The Movie.
just to give two examples, Capper and Tempest Shadow. as was pointed out by ToonGrin the Mane Six were way to quick to get over the fact that Capper almost sold them into slavery. and as people on this wiki should be aware of all the Accusation Fic stories about Tempest, her being turned to stone wasn't really enough to make up for her high treason, especially because she was fine just a few minutes later, not much of a Heroic Sacrafice.
and now Cozy Glow being imprisoned for high treason highlights the hypocrisy of letting characters like Tempest and Discord off the hook for the same thing just because they felt bad about it or unintentionally did something that at best just barely makes up for it.
you could argue that them helping to save Equestria makes up for what they did but I'd think that would only be a mitigating factor and either way, it's part of the larger problem G4 has about Karma Houdini.
and it's strange how in the same movie, Capper and Tempest are given a "Get Out of Jail Free" Card but Skystar gets punished by her mother despite doing the right thing not that I disagree with what happened to Skystar but it's a Double Standard.
Hide / Show RepliesI asked cleanup, redeemed characters are exempted from Karma Houdini as by definition they've owned/owning up to karma. If audiences digress this isn't a YMMV trope.
The double standards you mentioned are only as relevant to this wiki as we can find tropes for them.
Edited by Ferot_DreadnaughtHeres's the deal. I kinda fell out with FIM after the sixth season and stopped keeping up (though I did catch the first 11 epsiodes of season 7 only last year) While as a Brony I was happy to accept the show for what it was, part of me just grew frustrated with the the shows seeming reluctance to explore certain parts of it's own mythos. For instance, take the Alicorn Amulet from season 3. Doesn't it seem strange that a dark magical artifact is directly named after a type of pony that has so far been seen as totally good and noble? What were the writers insinuating here? Other stuff that rubbed me the wrong way was the shows tendency to botch up its own moral lessons in certain episodes as well as the writing becoming somewhat stagnant in general.
With the show apparently due to end this year and G5 around the corner naturally, I was wondering after thinking it over, is it worth going back to finish what I've missed? Have things improved since I left? Is the overall decline as serve as I initially feard? Because despite everything, a slither of me still does admire this show.
Hide / Show RepliesSome questions are never answered, with regard to your concern about the "Alicorn Amulet", although I believe most of us simply accepted it as "gives one power equal to an alicorn", not "gives one the personality of an alicorn". We're told that prior to Flurry Heart, alicorns had to earn their power, and were not born with it, and as such it would seem the amulet doesn't imply anything negative about alicorns so much as it confirms the old adage that power corrupts, especially if it isn't earned. As to the main thrust of your query, whether or not it's worth catching up, only you can make the determination, but I have to say I rather enjoyed most of what you say you've missed. Start by watching "The Perfect Pear", a season 7 episode that you won't have seen yet, and know that there are episodes as good as that afterwards.
Regarding Season 8, several, as of yet unaired episodes are available for viewing on various websites. What are the rules regarding adding tropes and examples for unaired episodes?
When Frozen was released in Finland, Elsa was voiced by Katja Sirkiä who happened to have been playing FIM Rainbow Dash (and EQG Rainbow Dash as well). Years later, as a Finnish Rainbow Dash, she happened to sing "I'll Fly" (which the song itself in general is suspiciously similar to "Let It Go").
Where in TV Tropes should I put this ironic moment?
Okay, can we please get rid of the "Additional Pages" list there? I admit it was kinda cool at first, but now that TV Tropes has undergone a site redesign, you can now access any of the links from the plethora of buttons above the page. So do we really need a list of the pages on the page, considering that there is also a list of the pages above the page? It just seems redundant. Not to mention that it seems to be completely arbitrary what gets linked on the "Additional Pages" list and what doesn't.
TL;DR: We should remove the "Additional Pages" list, because it no longer serves any real purpose.
Hide / Show RepliesTook out the ones with their own buttons.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI know I'm probably going to get flamed, but I have to ask, out of genuine curiosity:
What do people see in this show?
Edited by 129.79.70.161 Hide / Show RepliesI've often wondered that myself. Have you watched it at all? I haven't, so I wonder if it's just one of those "you have to see it to understand" things.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Well, a show they like? 'Tis a honest answer; I don't think it's any different from all other works with audiences.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanA good place to start; Watch the video 'Smile Smile Smile' (NOT 'Smile HD', for the love of Celestia) to get a good idea of Pinkie Pie's normal personality... then watch the episode 'Party of One'. (Both available on Youtube).
What do people see:
- Six girls with six different personalities, rather than six girls with six identical personalities.
- Six girls with six different ways of being a girl, rather than six boy-crazy, makeup-obsessed girls.
- Lessons about life that indicate different people are interesting, rather than shunworthy.
- The tomboy can learn from the girly girl.
- The jock can learn from the brain.
- The party animal can learn from the quiet homebody.
It is not a perfect show by any means. There are lots of examples of peer pressure, and the occasional bit of Unfortunate Implications, but the silly, pastel-colored ponies really does tend to carry a lot of merit.
Don't ask the Bronies, though. They like the show for ... different reasons.
Please tell me you're confusing terminology Skylite. Bronies are the fans who like the show, and cloppers are, well...
Edited by 75.81.208.113Val — in the circles I travel in, I have seen many times that what you describe as cloppers still refer to themselves as Bronies.
This would be problematic even if they were just boy fans because even the wholesome and kind boy fans ask, "so what are GIRL pony fans called" as if Boy Fans are the default for a show AIMED at girls.
It's honestly better than most other shows (aimed at kids or not) I've seen these days.
Edited by Itssimple901I want to add a pantheon page for the series, how can I do that? (I'm new to this site, so if there is a reason not to or a process behind it, let me know).
Hide / Show RepliesYou can ask here.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanA wee bit early, I would say.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSorry for the one-month reply, but I don't see why we can't add something like "A feature film based on the series, set for release in 2017, has been announced."
Quick question, was that Tiraq (pardon my spelling) double feature thing the last of MLP:Fi M?
Edited by 24.189.46.211 I'm not quite sure how any of this happened, but hell, I'm already neck-deep. Hide / Show RepliesTirek's episode was not the last episode. There's been a whole season since then.
No, I just forget which season which finale occurred in is all. They tend to run together in my head if I'm not looking at the episode listing while I'm typing.
Has anyone ever considered making a tropes page about the MLP CCG?
Hide / Show RepliesApparently no one did.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanEarlier today I added the following trope to the listings:
- Grey-and-Gray Morality: Almost all of the moral confrontations in the series fit this template. The good guys always have some negative qualities that often get lampshaded (often by causing the plot build-up event chain in an episode) and the bad guys almost always possess some redeeming qualities, and even when they don't, they're little more than nuisances in the grand scheme of things. The members of the alicorn royalty and King Sombra deviate somewhat from this rule - the members of the former group seem to almost be Purity Personified whereas King Sombra is the only evil character the show has presented without a single discernible redeemable quality while still being a serious threat.
This was removed by The Other Steve with the following motivation: "Sorry, not seeing it. The bad guys are pretty clear-cut evil (though usually not to Complete Monster levels) and simply having one or two bad qualities doesn't qualify you for being a morally grey hero. You have to go a bit further for that."
So, I was wondering what others think. From my point of view it seems that the grey morality is not only a feature but even a central theme of the show. Good characters possess bad qualities (and often quite serious ones at that, usually facilitated by Mr. Vice Guy) and we are almost in every instance encouraged to sympathize with the villains (who usually are converted and forgiven in the end).
How should the show be categorized? Grey-and-Gray Morality? Black-and-White Morality? Morality Kitchen Sink?
Edit: re-added as Morality Kitchen Sink with elaboration on the exceptions.
Edited by Anbalsilfer Hide / Show RepliesYeah, the show is more White And Grey, if that's even a thing. The heroes really have no grey morality.
I'd disagree. The show goes to some effort to give the Mane 6 and Spike negative traits. Not EVIL traits, but they are Innocently Insensitive and hurtful to each other without realizing it quite a lot.
Can someone please explain to me why every single episode has its own separate trope page? I haven't seen a single other work's page that has that. I know the show is popular but I think that's going a bit overboard, don't you think?
Hide / Show RepliesIf you're talking about the Recap Page, that's not uncommon.
Take Transformers: Prime. The only episodes without summaries are the ones that haven't come out yet. MLP is a popular franchise that is coming out while TV Tropes existed. I'm sure if it existed back when Star Trek and Doctor Who first came out, we'd have every episode of them being logged as well.
Moreover, the recapping of every episode was a later development.
Edited by 216.99.32.42I agree with Rosemary. There's Popular and then there's Overboard.
This show, while good, is not the pinnacle of animation it does not deserve this much adoration and special treatment.
As I've recently been told, there are no standard for notability. If a show doesn't have episode recaps, then someone who can be bothered should make them. This show has such people and so it has recaps. Otherwise I don't see what the point of this topic is except to note that the show has fans.
I agree that the show suffers from not being able to live up to its own hype, but that's ultimately an opinion. And last I checked, there's a still a "no such thing as notability" rule on this site.
Also, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is an ongoing series that may not even survive its first season and only has three episodes. People are writing recaps. Again, it's not a matter of a show deserving recaps, it's a matter of people be bothered to make them.
1) No such thing as notability. A show doesn't have to be unusually special to get recap pages, it just has to have a fan or group of fans sufficiently dedicated to write it. 2) I agree that it would be overboard if this were the only page with recaps, it is not. While it is one of the most detailed and complete, it is far from unique. See Recap for more examples of works with recap pages
Edited by 108.202.190.238Mystery Science Theater 3000 has it's own recap page. Not everything is recapped, but it does.
There are recaps for different shows, depending on the Tropers and how dedicated they are to maintaining it. Even some Literature has recap pages.
I noticed that under character development Applejack, fluttershy, Twilight and Dash are listed as having developed and changed.
I take issue with this for several reasons and I want to see what you guys think. For one, Twilight did become less socially awkward but that happened instantaneously when she became group leader after the pilot.
Dash is also developed however the reasons givem (became more concerned and caring for her friends)are also true of Rarity (who has grown closer with her sister, Spike, Fluttershy and AJ) and yet she is not considered developed despite those changes being listed.
And I disagree that Aj and Shy are developed for simply showing their characteristic traits less since many of their episodes after said development took place still used those traits as their motivation and expression of the conflict. Redacting character development to reuse conflicts is something this show does a lot so I would argue it has to be shown to stick before it can be called character development.
With that in mind, if showing character traits less is character development, then wouldn't Rarity be the most developed? I say this because nearly every single episode of hers has her motivated by a different emotion and expressing her character differently and learning a different lesson. So, by doing this, the writers are implying that her lessons actually stick. And, imo, to say otherwise would be to say that characters who often repeat the same conflicts but do it less often (like AJ, Fluttershy and even Dash) are more developed than a character who almost never repeats conflicts. This strikes me as rather backward.
Hide / Show RepliesTwilight wasn't socially awkward. She was outright anti-social. And it didn't happen instantaneously. It took the timeframe of the first two episodes (which were the course of a few days).
Dash has developed quite a bit. Not just becoming concerned and caring for her friends, but also becoming less self-centered, and less image-conscious and understanding that you can still be a cool athlete and read, for example.
Fluttershy has learned to become more assertive without employing Iron Will's techniques. I'd say that's valid.
AJ is still stubborn, and her honesty is often of the brutal type. She still tends to blow off things she doesn't agree with or understand, so I'd call her the least developed pony.
Rarity is still self-centered, and is as vain as she is generous, so she is the most balanced pony, if not the most developed.
I know I'm late to the party here, but is anybody else really not comfortable with Winter-Wrap Up's lesson of the day? I know it's supposed to be about finding a way to apply your own abilities to a group effort and all, but it seemed way, way too contrived that Ponyville waited until the last minute to start on the clean-up process.
Basically Twilight spends the whole episode failing at doing real work and cheating to try to fit in, and as a result... they put her in charge.
That would fit in really well with the lesson they're shooting for because everyone else is competent but disorganized, except Twilight has no idea how the work is properly done, or the problems associated with doing it, so she has no way to form reasonable expectations of the people she's organizing. She has no reason to be any better a manager than she is a laborer except for being obsessed with order. I came away from that thinking "Okay, so she sucks at doing real work... so they give her a promotion?"
Hide / Show Replies1) She doesn't have to be able to do it to know what needs done. 2) Ponyville in general seems to suck with organization/management things. As far as I can tell, Mayor Mare is the entirety of the government. 3) The impression I got was that Twilight, due to bouncing around trying to help, was the only one who knew all the processes that had to happen, and what circumstances needed to be met for those processes to happen. The rest of the town couldn't see the forest for the trees. 4) Just because organizing isn't physical doesn't mean it's not "real work". Twilight had a mindset and skillset that was badly needed here. 5) She's been hearing about the problems associated with each job as she looks for something to help with. That's what's going on in the bulk of the episode, she talks with each task group, finds out what they're doing, and attempts but does poorly at it. 6) Twilight's obsession with order is a very good reason that she'd be a good manager. She keeps track of what needs done and when it needs done by already in her own life. All she needs to add now is to keep track of who's in charge of a given task, which isn't that much.
Who the bloody hell got rid of the show's entire Nightmare Fuel page?
Edited by Vir Hide / Show RepliesAnd on an additional note, did the genius notice that in doing so they also cut off access to the Accidental and High Octane pages for fanworks? Seriously, what just happened and whose idea was it?
I like trains.Probably just a victim of the recent cleanup. It is annoying that the fanwork section was removed as well however, since some of it is actually High Octane Nightmare Fuel.
Honestly, the fandom here went far overboard with the Nightmare Fuel section, doing crazy stunts like giving Lesson Zero its own page and trying to pass off Adult Fear as actual Nightmare Fuel. I appreciate the work the fandom here has done on the TV Tropes pages, but we should be striving to accurately document the show's tropes instead of trying to set new milestones like trying to make the show seems like the second coming of Edgar Allen Poe or trying to make entirely new tropes and saying the show inspired/is the Trope Namer (partially or otherwise).
Edited by RanYakumoI think the cleanup just went overboard right back. Someone please undo this so we can trim down the page by normal means.
Oh, and the High Octane page for fanworks is still there, there's just no link to it anywhere. The Accidental one is deleted, though.
Edited by TheEmptyOne I like trains.Really? Could you link me to it?
Also, it seems High Octane Nightmare Fuel is going through a revamp in general, since the index is no longer available on either its page of Accidental Nightmare Fuel's page.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HighOctaneNightmareFuel/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicNonCanon Sorry for the long URL, I don't edit here often.
Accidental Nightmare Fuel seems to be having all its examples- even in YMMV- deleted, which if you ask me is no better than deleting the trope itself. High Octane has lost its index on the main page, but all the sub-pages and examples are still there.
I like trains.Can't say much about the nightmare fuel page, but if you want to find the list of fan works, it is linked to from the bottom of the Analysis page at My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.
Yeah, a lot of Nightmare Fuel pages seem to have been deleted lately... from the page for this, the non-canon pages, the Nightmare Fuel page for Kirby, the Nightmare Fuel page for Power Rangers... what's going on?
BOOM. Ah, frig, the fourth wall was broken AGAIN.Too bad it got deleted. The Changelings would of made a nice addition.
Maybe it has something to do with that fact that Nightmare Fuel for some of these people is laughable. I mean seriously, you were petrified by the Cockatrice?
Does TV Tropes have any content control? None of the claims are verifiable, obviously, since there aren't any citations or footnotes, and anyone can make stuff up and the gullible saps will eat it up. The Friendship is Magic fandom is now swirling with nonsense that has no basis in reality because "TV Tropes says so".
Edited by mlpThrowawaytv Hide / Show RepliesJust the Wisdom of Crowds and Wiki Magic.
The thing to consider is where in TV Tropes the information comes from. Although the actual articles are for cataloging and describing the observed tropes used in the show, there are other pages (like YMMV and WMG) that aren't supposed to be anything other than speculation and chatter.
The next time someone comes up with something you think is nonsense, just go to the main tropes pages:
Edited by ThMoleSo there's no content control. Someone can claim "amniomorphic" means "bowl-making" and you'd all just swallow it up.
And of course, that's one example out of dozens of "references" that don't exist.
Here's a thought: you have an account.
You also know what and where the errors are.
Instead of complaining, why not lend a hand, and fix them?
Editing isn't much harder than writing on the discussion board, and will actually take care of the incorrect information.
No one will thank you, but at least the garbage will be swept out.
Your call.
Tropers may request edits to locked pages in this thread.
The page was also not locked at that time — you're replying to a very old topic.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.'As of April 2, TV Tokyo will begin airing the official Japanese dub of this show.' Do we really need the little bit about the Japanese dub? I mean really, it's just another dub. If we need that line of text, why not have one for every other dub? "b-but my kawaii Japanese is most anticipated desu~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~" And? I'm sorry but this is just stupid. Can we remove this? It's really not needed and it just seems like the anime fans are trying to claim the page as their own.
Hide / Show RepliesYeah, this is unnecessary.
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.It's been removed.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going."As of April 2, TV Tokyo will begin airing the official Japanese dub of this show."
Should now be
"As of April 2, TV Tokyo began airing the official Japanese dub of this show."
Edited by 216.99.32.42 Hide / Show RepliesEdit requests go here. I've posted this one (combined with the one below) for you.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.Why am I not surprised this page is locked?
Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle Series Hide / Show RepliesDoes anyone else think it odd that, of the main characters and the CMC, all of the characters whose families haven't yet been seen are pegasi?
Hide / Show RepliesI don't think Pegasi actually have families. They seem to have the closest thing Equestria has to a military tradition; I always figured that Pegasi are raised communally and in a fairly Spartan fashion. After all, nobody seems to have even tried to come to Fluttershy's aid after she fell to the ground (and landed on a cloud of butterflies), or tried to convince her to come back to Cloudsdale afterward.
The Bronies documentary - I created a page for it: Bronies: The Extremely Unexpected Adult Fans of My Little Pony But I need some help getting it off the ground.
Edit request: change "daily reports" to "weekly reports", as per Lesson Zero.
Edited by MenethUhm, I new to troper-ing, so I was wondering...
I know someone on Fan Fiction.Net, and they made a good point about the season two finale. It basically threw everything the entire series is built on (Trusting your friends, listening to them, not ignoring them), just for a silly plot. I think this may go under Broken Aesop, but even if it does, where would I put this, under its main page subpage or YMMV?
Edited by YuriAngel Uh... Hide / Show RepliesGiven that the page is locked, I'm making the request here.
Can we put "Not to be confused with the comics of the same name"?
Hide / Show RepliesI think this forum thread is the place for locked page edit requests.
I'm sorry if this is already being discussed elsewhere, but we should really have a trope entry for the upcoming comic series. You know, the official one by Andy Price and Katie Cook? What would the page title be? Can someone show me an existing comic book series entry on TV Tropes as an example?
Hide / Show RepliesSince the page is locked...
Wasn't Craig McCracken (Faust's husband) the creator of Powerpuff Girls and Foster's? Faust may have worked on them a few times, but the main page acts as if she was the creator of the shows, referring to her as the writer and director instead of a writer and director, as Western Animation often has more than one if I'm not mistaken.
Edited by SilentColossus Hide / Show RepliesWell, Wikipedia says "She has been a story artist since Season 3 of The Powerpuff Girls and was head writer on Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends." That's a more accurate picture of her involvement and either. One of the explanations given most often for why MLP: Fi M has had so much crossover appeal is to attribute it to Lauren Faust's involvement in the Powerpuff Girls, which had crossover appeal as well, and I think that this has lead to a tendency to exaggerate that involvement, with "she helped out on these series" being blown up into "she was the main creative force behind them!"
This is apparently a bit of a problem for her, as her faq has a section devoted to it: "Q: Did you create the Powerpuff Girls and/or Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends? No. My husband, Craig Mc Cracken did." Anyway, I think the page should be edited to basically use wikipedias wording, rather than the current "she was the writer and director...", and perhaps mention the actual creator as well.
Edited by watermark0n-I'm new, so forgive me if this is the wrong place-
I don't think "Lauren Faust will continue to work as a consulting director" on the front page should be in the future tense now that Season 2 is over. (I also think there should be a paragraph break before the sentence, but that's not important.)
Edited by ModernTroperiaDoes anyone remember the new background pony named "Junebug"? She is a very underrated character. Why doesn't the fandom pay attention to her? BTW, Junebug is a pony from "Secret of my Excess".
"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"Okay, I think TV Tropes is relying too much on Ponibooru as an image cache. It has a terrible reputation as a website since it's full of NSFW images.
I suggest using Bronibooru. It has no NSFW images, pics of extreme violence towards characters (so no Scootabuse) or otherwise terrible pics (no image macros either).
Hide / Show RepliesIt is better organize. But arent the NSFW pics are censored in Ponibooru unless you click the pic?
And now Ponibooru has been shut down completely. I'm glad for this, but I know others won't be... Are the links being fixed or what?
Can someone namespace the links that need Namespacing like Lauren Faust and The Powerpuff Girls?
Please help out our The History Of Video Games page.So why is there not yet an Awesome Music page, or even just a plain 'ol Music page? There is enough material at this point to warrant one, I think.
In addition, I gotta say that by this point the fans deserve a Fan Music page. Even beyond the metric ton of remixes of songs from the show(many of which are very good, sometimes even better than the original), there are plenty of original works that deserve mention.
Hide / Show RepliesThere is. You click on the awesome page and they have a link to the music version.
Awesome Music doesn't have an icon on the top bar. You can access it from the sidebar, or from the dropdown menu at the top of the page.
Rhymes with "Protracted."I know the page is locked now, but the page should mention this show is also the trope namer for Party Of One.
Allright, so I uploaded a new, higher quality image for the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic page. You can find the image at
Hide / Show RepliesWait, looks like I accidentally embedded the image. Ah well, hope this helps you guys!
To make it just a link, enclose the URL in [[ ]]. Changing images on work pages is fine unless there's a special note, and quality swaps are free, so thank-you!
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.You're very welcome. I can't seem to edit the page (it's locked for me), so I just uploaded the image on here.
Also, in case you're curious this is the source of the image: [1]. And for the record, that feller isn't me.
Oh yeah, I forgot this thing was locked. Go here to request the swap, since only mods can edit it.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.Can we please note in the Format and Genre box that the show technically isn't a SatAM cartoon anymore because new episodes are shown at 1:00 PM?
Please help out our The History Of Video Games page.Is there a mention of the insane brony fans who even masturbate and fantasize about the ponies?
Hide / Show RepliesShouldn't we have a link to My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Non Canon on the main page? I mean, I'd just up and add it, but, well, y'know, it's locked and all.
Moon◊ Hide / Show RepliesI would suggest the sandbox, but even that is locked down!
How about this: let's link to it from the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic Analysis page.
I'm making this suggestion based on how Dr. Who has both an Doctor Who Analysis page, and a Doctor Who Expanded Universe page that is listed from it which covers additional material about the show.
Edited by ThMoleNot a bad idea. I'll look into squeezing it in there, for the time being.
Moon◊Okay, I added it to the bottom of the analysis page. If anyone disagrees, then just edit it or take it off. Fair enough, everyone?
Should Derpy be moved to Minor Characters, seeing as she spoke and was recognized?
Ok, so Celestia raises the sun in the morning and Luna raises the moon at night. But what keeps them going? Do Celestia and Luna give them such a large "push" that the inertia keeps them going? Or are they constantly exerting magic to keep the moon and sun moving?
I feel like I could touch the heavens, and sock angels. Element of Indecision. Hide / Show RepliesBut that doesn't explain how the sun and moon keep moving.
I feel like I could touch the heavens, and sock angels. Element of Indecision.It's magic being performed on a children's animated program. They don't have to explain anything.
Edited by ThMoleI'd like to assume they're using Archimedes' old idea. Somewhere at the edge of Equestria, there's one really, really big lever...
An odd piece of fanon states that Lyra and Bon Bon are dating. The only evidence is that they're often seen near each other. It's not like they've been seen kissing! What gives?
Hide / Show RepliesThat odd piece of fanon are called "Shippers". Try not to acknowledge them and you'll be much better off.
There comes a time when one must decide: should I set that on fire, or not?how can you NOT acknowledge them? if they are anything like the shippers in other works of media, it is extremely difficult to ignore them, yet equally difficult to take them sereiously.
There's no evidence that Lyra and Bon-Bon aren't dating, either. They're background characters, with very little canon personality. We can give them whatever personality they want.
Doctor Whoves is another example of Fanon about a background character without much basis in actual evidence.
Edited by NXTanglI think that Green Rooming may describe Zecora or Tank, but Im not quite sure. What does everypony else think?
In between Not Even Human and Not Quite Human Hide / Show RepliesNot only Zecora, but also a number of other characters, as well. Not so sure about Tank, although we should presume we will see him again.
Figure I should probably say this here as well - I dropped Creation Myth from the tropes list because, so far, Friendship is Magic doesn't have one (the example given was the Nightmare Moon story, and that has nothing to do with creation). I put in an entry for Mythopoeia instead, as the show seems to be slowly collecting myths and history as it goes.
I left the text I cut on the discussion page for A-G in case we need to put it back later or something.
Extremely tangential, but I'm working on D&D deity writeups based on the mane cast, and found that I just can't write in Pinkie Pie's voice (in character description is the best way to get her fourth wall demolishing across). Anyone know they're good at writing in her voice and willing to do a translation once I do up the basic description?
Hide / Show RepliesFunny thing about that. Pinkie's so called "4th wall demolishing"... That's a trait that's greatly exaggerated by fans of the show. She doesn't actively do it as much as other characters do. Which isn't too much.
If you really want to write something in her character, just try going off on weird tangents, keep a cheerful attitude and generally make her talk the reader's ears off. That's what really makes up Pinkie's character.
Can I suggest a trope to be added? You Keep Using That Word: The fandom seems to believe "alicorn" means a pony with wings and a unicorn horn. It means unicorn horn.
Hide / Show RepliesI think Jayson Thiessen has used the term as well I think. Does Word of God overrule actual meaning?
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!Alicorn means both a unicorn horn and a Unicorn Pegasus, via diferent mythological texts. I don't have them on hand, but I'll do the research if you'd like.
Every single page on this website has something to do with My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. If I see one more reference to it, I'm actually going to throw my computer at a wall.
Hide / Show RepliesNot true. The Ugly Barnacle, for instance, has no such references.
Not that you're likely to see this, considering your computer is most likely broken at this point.
Moon◊Well, if you're lookin' to avoid My Little Pony, you've definitely come to the right place.
Edited by HeinousActsZXDude, I have to put up with this site's TGWTG obsession every time I go to tv tropes, but I just try to ignore that stuff everytime I see it. Now why can't you do that with mlp fim?
The Pinkamena image on the show's Nightmare Fuel page should be changed to Twilight Psycho. Twilight Psycho is pretty dang scary. Pinkamena is not scary; it's actually kinda cute. I want to hug it.
Edited by Captainhook Hide / Show RepliesI say not because no matter how you cut it, it's still My Little Pony and still meant for children.
I really think that fans exaggerate how "scary" the show is. In the same way they exaggerate how sad/awesome/hilarious the show is.
A High Octane Nightmare Fuel page would be superfluous.
Back to the original point, Twilight Psycho is a much better representative of Nightmare Fuel than the actually-kinda-cute Pinkamena. Anybody else think so?
Edited by CaptainhookJust because you think she's cute, doesn't mean everyone else does.
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.But surely you agree that Twilight Psycho is scarier.
Edited by CaptainhookMeh, I got around that with a fillies-laughing-in-hellish-background page image.
"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon StewartWell, I can't agree with her being scarier. Came off as "over-the-top cartoonish" to me. Whereas Pinkamena's twitches and expressions and, uhm, active delusions and disconnect from reality did a good job on the "she has really gone insane" thing, for me. Though I wouldn't call either one "scary", anyways...
I love this show and Transformers Prime and don't see the need for the Fandom Rivalry. Friendship is Magic will get an award sooner of later. there's also the possibility that the Transformers franchise has done a better job of coming out of the Animation Age Ghetto then My Little Pony. and that would be more the fault of the academy than the other show.
Hide / Show RepliesFrom what I can tell its more of a Friendly Rivalry, if such a thing can exist between Fandoms.
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!I'm sure it won't be long before there are weird, illogical crossover toys...
Why does Season 3's section on the Recap page only have 13 episodes?
Hide / Show RepliesNow that we have the Subpages drop-down menu, it's OK to delete the Additional Pages section.
and the Cutie Mark Crusaders get some negativity just like Pipsqueak. but the newest episode has all three fillies in a very positive and adorable light. screw the Crusaders' Vocal Minority.
why do some people dislike Pipsqueak? I strongly disagree with the reasons for disliking the Cutie Mark Crusaders but at least I know what those reasons are.
Hide / Show RepliesSome people just don't like Cousin Olivers. They probably just find him annoying and think he doesn't add anything meaningful to the episode. Personally, I think he's just tolerable, if forgettable.
Edited by PDLI don't see that as enough reason to consider a character The Scrappy, even if that's just the opinion of some. I feel the same way about the Crusaders. and what was annoying about Pip? I don't love him to the extreme like some do but I do really like him.
Edited by brony99I think people were miffed that he debuted in Luna's episode, supposedly stealing her spotlight. Personally, I don't think we can consider him to be a Scrappy or a Cousin Oliver. We haven't seen enough of him to determine that yet. I really like him.
Edited by HeinousActsZXthe Episode Guide says the un-aired episodes are just rumors at this point but I checked my TV guide and it has the synopsis of "the Cutie Pox" for next Saturday. can my DVR schedule be trusted?
Hide / Show RepliesSchedules are always subject to change, but yes, that is as solid as it gets short of actually seeing the episode air.
apparently, it's confirmed now, just like the last two episodes that started out as rumors. should I just assume that all the unaired episodes are coming at this point?
Just so everyone knows, I've started the Analysis page. Feel free to contribute to it at your leisure.
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!Okay, who's bright idea was it to add a High Octane Nightmare Fuel page?!
Whatever is listed there isn't even scary! It's My Little Pony for pete's sake! High Octane Nightmare Fuel is for the Intentionally scary. It is not, I repeat, NOT Nightmare Fuel but more!
This page does not need a redundant nightmare fuel page. This is a show about baby horse girl toys. The original page is enough.
Edited by PDL Hide / Show RepliesMLP had examples of HONF listed on the Western Animation subpage. I moved them to the show-specific subpage. As for how much HONF you're actually going to find...yeah, not much outside of fanwork.
Panhandling sign glued to hands. Need $5 for solvent.Why is the main page still locked? It was just some idiot being a doofus. He's gone now! It's time to unlock the page and show the trolls that they can't push the real tropers around. If we just show some courage, we can beat this cyber-terrorism!
Hide / Show RepliesThe infodump on the show's popularity on the front page mostly. It has no place on there.
This needs to be added to page, as well:
- Light Feminine and Dark Feminine: Fluttershy (Light) is kind, caring, very much like a mother to the animals. Rarity (Dark) is vain and bratty, though not quite as much so as she seems.
Guys, Im new here, and I was wondering if you could add my video to the "Nightmare Fuel" entry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZVWapNxe1M
Edited by Mrwens PONEEZSo I've noticed that there's a bit of an infodump about the show's popularity on the main page.
While it's useful and all, does it really need to be there? On the front page I mean. I think it would be better if it was on a different page and the front page was just about the show itself, and not a history lesson about it's impact on the media. I'm not saying it should be deleted completely.
Hide / Show RepliesMaybe shove it on the analysis page?
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.The analysis page should be for essays. Although an essay on this show's impact on the media and why it's so dang popular would be great.
I've been wondering what we should do with the analysis page...
Doctor Who uses their analysis page to dump a lot of stuff that was on the main page like explaining some of the concepts of the show (The TARDIS, sonic screwdriver, companions) as well as some of the pop-culture impact. Maybe we can use our analysis page in a similar manner?
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!I don't see anything wrong with that. As long as it's clear and concise.
Edited by PDLHere's a plan.
1. We copy the article from the top of the main page (pretty much everything above the additional pages listing) onto the analysis page and start editing it in the Dr. Who style Cainos suggested, above.
2a. When the lock comes off the main page we can then reduce the original material to cover only what the analysis page doesn't.
2b. If the lock doesn't come off after the analysis page is brought up to speed, we edit the sandbox instead and let the mods simplify the main page.
Sounds simple, but is it too complex to carry through? It may be. Anyone else have an idea?
Edited by ThMoleAw geez. Why are we lockin' the main page again? What happened this time?
Hide / Show RepliesVandal once again, but for now its only the main page.
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!I received word that Ponibooru is allowing pornography of underaged characters to be uploaded to it.
Such content is, if I remember, against the rules. Not least because in certain countries such as the UK, merely having a link to such an image in your computer cache is enough to get you pegged as a sex offender, for life. Doesn't matter why—if it's there, you're fucked.
I demand that every link to the site be removed permanently from ALL THE PAGES. The MLP Fandom already has a shitty reputation, I don't want it sullied further.
Edited by PDL Hide / Show RepliesI agree with you, but don't the nsfw images tend to be labled as "qusitionable" so that you can't see the image unless you click on it? Don't get me wrong, I think your right, but woulden't that count as a warning?
We should definitely get a consensus first before deleting links. I've checked the Ponibooru rules page and it disallows any images that are illegal in California (including "sexual depictions of underage humans".) If there are any similar laws against sexual images of underage ponies (or dragons, or griffons, etc.) anywhere within our viewership, then I'd say it would make some sense to remove the links. (though the fact that there is a warning might make things a bit safer.)
Edited by KayubeIf it's a link directly to the image, the questionable/explicit tag will be overridden and you will look at the exposed image. I agree that we should look through the Crowning Moment, Tear Jerker and Nightmare Fuel pages for such fanart.
In the characters pages, Spike should not be listed under "mane cast." The "mane" part refers to ponies, and Spike is a dragon.
He would be better placed in the Animal Companions page, as he is of a different species than the mane cast. Granted, he gets more screentime than the other Animal Companions, but that isn't a very meaningful aspect of categorization.
"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart Hide / Show RepliesActually, in this case he does belong there.
The correct title of that cast page is actually the MAIN cast. The misspelling is a pun (for the mane of a horse, as you said).
He is generally considered to be a main cast member, and so he's there, even though the pun itself would not apply to him specifically.
So if you want to correct it, removing Spike isn't the answer, but removing the pun is. I don't advise actually trying it because someone will probably put it back without a second thought.
Animal Companions? What the hell? Are you implying that Spike is merely a pet? Seriously? Never mind that he's able to talk and is on the same anthropomorphic level as the rest of the main characters...
You know, why don't we put ALL THE CHARACTERS IN ANIMAL COMPANIONS, SINCE THEY'RE YOU KNOW, ANIMALS?
In case you cannot figure it out, animal companions are for characters that are pets that are unable to speak. Spike is more like a little brother/son to Twilight then anything else.
Edited by PDL"Are you implying that Spike is merely a pet?" - PDL
Ee-yup.
Seriously, he is often treated as a pet, though, given his Butt-Monkey status. (Remember ep. 24 when he was pretty much working like a dog setting up get-togethers for the mane cast just so he could get some attention from them?)
As for Spike being like a little brother or son to Twilight... that also raises the question of whether or not he belongs in "mane family members" instead of mane cast or animal companions.
In any case, I think I'll bring this up in the MLP:FIM thread in Western Animation, and see what they have to say.
EDITED IN: Here's a link to my post about this in the thread.
Edited by HiddenFacedMatt "The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon StewartSpike is a main character, he's always in group shots like on the main page, his voice actress is listed in the show's credits, and even has a Meet the Video.
If nothing else we have nowhere else to put him with how we've set the pages up. He's certainly not a Princess or a Cutie Mark Crusader. You could argue about putting him in Minor Characters, but again he's not minor as he shows up in most episodes, and someone would put him back on the main cast page anyways.
He's fine where he is.
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!Does Fi M have any Big Lipped Alligator Moments or continuity errors? With my terrible memory, I'd have to rewatch the series twice more in one day to find them.
Hide / Show RepliesPinkie's Pinkie Sense would count, wouldn't it? It's only ever seen in Feeling Pinkie Keen
Don't you try anything, you baked good you.In the intro it bothers me that Faust is quoted when she admitted in a 'comment-article'(That one about the show being Racist and homophobic) that she didn't watch the show, but only played with the toys. And if you see her saying girls show are brainless with female character only caring about fashion and boys, it is obvious she only gazed upon 'my little pony TALES'. And that show is disliked by many and NOT a standard for shows for females. But it is HER quote, so even if it is ignorant, we can't remove it. But it sounds as if she is right, so we, as a wise and info/providing place, should edit this. We shouldn´t have false info/opinions in it. So what should we do?
Hide / Show RepliesYou and other G1 diehards are a small minority. I am obsessed with cute things and I can't sit through an episode of the original series. Get over it.
You and other G1 diehards are a small minority. I am obsessed with cute things and I can't sit through an episode of the original series. Get over it.
What is it with you and your judging? I AM NOT A G1 diehard, I JUST Recently watched the old shows with an OPEN MIND and got a honest opinion which is filled with arguments. That you can't handle it isn't saying ANYTHING about the quality. Are you just completly ignoring what I said?
Reread EXACTLY what the passage says. Nowhere does it mention previous incarnations of MLP - it says that girls' cartoons IN GENERAL have historically been terrible and insulting to their demographic's intelligence, and while there are some exceptions, I'd be willing to bet that most tropers who have been subjected to the genre over the years would be more than willing to agree. Additionally, the passage is framed as her opinion and guiding viewpoint behind the show's development, so whether you agree with her or not is irrelevant, it's still a crucial part of the show's DNA.
I think what coconutie is getting at is that having the line "Faust is on record as saying that most cartoons for girls are brainless, sickly-sweet pandering trash" comes off as overly-negative. It's been a while since I read the page's description, and I have to say, that line caught me off-guard as well. I think that the page would not suffer from deleting that line entirely.
I think what coconutie is getting at is that having the line "Faust is on record as saying that most cartoons for girls are brainless, sickly-sweet pandering trash" comes off as overly-negative. It's been a while since I read the page's description, and I have to say, that line caught me off-guard as well. I think that the page would not suffer from deleting that line entirely.
I don't know. Usually, coconutie 's edits just ooze hatred and he/she tends to behave and if TV Tropes were his/her own private webpage where what he/says, stays or else. The last thing I want to see on TV Tropes is an edit war caused by a single person who wants to control and manipulate EVERYTHING what is said here.
Rico Suave.Ehm, the discussion wasn't about me, but about the content of the main page. We'll go further in this in PM, ok? I don't want the discussion page to be about a troper, but about the show.
Ms. Faust was almost certainly not talking about the MLP franchise. Furthermore, she has a point in regards to girl shows. Most of them DO patronize their viewers. The line should stay.
It's a quote about the show, from the creator, about the motivation behind it's creation. One or two nitwits thinking it sounds "negative" is not enough of a reason to delete it.
There comes a time when one must decide: should I set that on fire, or not?I know this is a old as hell discussion, but I do want to point out that even if lauren wasn't talking about the older series, she is right. Most girl's shows just tried to cash in on the obsessions of younger girls and put little to no effort in making the show good. And yes, she does hate the older shows. She said that all they ever did was have tea party's, giggle for no reason, and defeat the villains by crying, which seems to be pretty acurate from what I've seen of the older Shows.
I am not bashing anyone that grew up with them, but I tried to sit thorugh one of the episodes from the older shows and I could only get to 3 min's before I stoped watching it and went back to watching friendship is magic. Just pointing out the facts here.
I just submitted a trope to YKTTW, and we may soon be able to add Trope Namer to the list if Pinkie Sense makes it through
GATTAI!!!! Hide / Show RepliesProbably won't stick due to its non-indicative name. (Honestly, Pinkie Sense could mean anything if you haven't watched the show.)
pearlina brainrot affects millions of people worldwide. if you or a loved one are suffering from pearlina brainrot, call 1-800-GAY-NERDSTo be fair, LOTS of things don't mean anything if you don't know what they're from.
"Chekhov's Gun," for instance. "Companion Cube," "Xanatos Gambit," "Eldritch anything," and "Kafka Komedy" come to mind as well.
Except Pinkie Pie isn't exactly the the starter of this particular trope. I can remember Monty from Rescue Rangers having a similar plot, except his tail indicated the weather and stuff. I'm sure it didn't start there, either.
Well the name didnt stick but here's the trope Pinkie Pie inspired
GATTAI!!!!Don't forget! Although the main page is still locked, the mods ARE paying attention to the sandbox!
Although which corrections they accept and how often they make them are still their choice, you DO still have a voice in how the article continues to evolve.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic
Hide / Show RepliesAnd now it's unlocked!
Let's hope the parasprites stay away for awhile.
Now that Season Two is out, we should seriously consider unlocking this page. It was just one troll who's probably gotten bored and moved one to some other website. As for responsible tropers like us, we have editing to do. Please think about this.
Hide / Show RepliesYes,it would be nice if someone could unlock this page now.The troll is probely gone now to due getting bored, and there are quite a bit tropes that could be added to this page just from the one episode that came out recently.Just imagine if the page was still locked even after all of the season 2 episodes came out. the page would be nothing but old news.And this series dosen't attract as much negitive attention as you would think,so I don't see why this page should be locked forever like uwe boll or sonichu Just because of a troll.
Yeah, it'd be nice to add tropes for season two. Ten seconds in and Discord's already breaking the trend of Anti Villains in the show... a lot of fans think he crossed the Moral Event Horizon with the Fluttershy sequence.
... Which is when I was banned from Arkham Asylum. Any questions?Well it would seem that this page is finally unlocked, and that people have already added examples involving what little of season 2 their is.About time.
Yeah, sorry about that. The page was locked because it was attracting more vandalism than an anime convention attracts tropers.
For future reference, you can propose changes to a locked page here.
Edited by BobbyG Welcome To TV Tropes | How To Write An Example | Text-Formatting Rules | List Of Shows That Need Summary | TV Tropes Forum | Know The Staffit's cool dude, I already know why it was locked, I just starting to worry that it would never be unlocked because of how long it had been locked. No biggie.
This isn't fair. Just because some troll is acting up doesn't mean we should all be punished.
Shamelessly plugging my comics, Oh yes. Hide / Show RepliesI agree as well.Plus by locking the page,thus preventing fans from editing it, all because of ONE troll, arn't you feeding the troll as well?
Will the articles ever be unlocked? Since I'm (perma?)banned from the forums, and the only way to edit a locked page (as far as I know) is indirectly by posting in a forum topic, I'm essentially forbidden from editing this page in the future, and I'm a brony, so...
Edited by Midna pearlina brainrot affects millions of people worldwide. if you or a loved one are suffering from pearlina brainrot, call 1-800-GAY-NERDS Hide / Show RepliesThey're currently locked due to persistent vandalism. In the Trope Repair discussion its been mentioned the troll has been dodging bans and even vandalizing the sandbox version of the main page.
Someone does not feel the love & tolerance.
Anyways, I don't know what to tell you if you want to continue to contribute to the pony pages. The Ensemble Dark Horse, Episode Guide, and Crowning Moments sections are still unlocked if you'd like to add things to those.
Personally I think having the pages locked for now might be a good thing. Gives us time to think over how to keep this all organized and readable when Season 2 rolls around and we'll have actual new examples to put up here. We need to plan these things, before the flood gates open!
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!I hope so. Keeping the page up to date will be a NIGHTMARE if it isn't!
Shouldn't it be added to Nightmare Moon's Anti-Villain entry that Word of God says her transformation was also forced on her to some degree by some outside entity? That seems to make her even more of an Anti-Villain than before.
I miss the Eye Scream entry for Twilight's "Cross my heart and hope to fly, put a cupcake in my *Ouch*!" in Green is not your Color.
Edited by Smilley Hide / Show Replies"The Ticket Master" has a Yakety Sax sequence. Can't edit, but there you go.
Hide / Show RepliesYou can still edit the sandbox, and the mods will then make the updates to the actual page (expect them to do it when they get around to it, and to pick and choose which edits they will make, however).
Also, keep in the mind that the trolls have tried to attack that, too.
Shouldn't we mention that Hasbro isn't actually taking videos down? It was only one channel, and everyone is fairly sure it was a troll now.
Hide / Show RepliesIt just happened again, at about the same time the vandals hit here.
Since the page is locked and cannot be edited, I would like to request that the trope "That Reminds Me of a Song" be added to the main page. The show does have a fair amount of musical numbers in every other episode, no matter how short.
WHOOPSIE!
Do the folders look broken to you? They look that way to me, and I see one other person mentioned it.
We may have reached the limit of how big the main page can get.
If that's what happened — meaning this isn't just a coding error someone put in by mistake while editing — the solution is to split the page itself.
Examples of what I'm talking about include the Bleach page (which was discussed back when the folders were originally installed), and our own WMG page.
What do you guys think? Should we go ahead and split the page, or just keep looking for an error?
Edited by ThMole Hide / Show RepliesI checked, the Folder tags are in place and no misspellings are there. Its just not splitting it into folders. I guess splitting it into more folders won't work...
I think one thing we can do is make sure we're not putting tropes in that aren't really there. I love this show, but surly not every trope on the net applies to it in some way or another.
Either way, we should think of ways of better organizing the pony pages in preparation for Season 2. We all know things are just gonna explode as soon as soon as the first teaser shows up.
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!So.....is it time to folderize this page yet? The Troper Critical Mass seems to have gotten even stronger during the season break.
Hide / Show RepliesIt breaks my heart to see a clean tropes page get all folderized, but... 20,835 words might be a little bit on the long side, I grant you. That's a fair-sized novella.
How do you think we should split it? A-M / N-Z, or something smaller?
A-M works for me. If there's no objections I'll make the folders when I get more time later.
Query. Are you going to merely put folder tags in the document, or are you planning to do something more like Bleach and create REAL new subfolders out of subpages?
Taking a quick look, it seems the reason Bleach has separate sub-pages for it's tropes is the high volume of material covered (each single sub-page is actually as long or longer that the main Friendship Is Magic page, itself). For now, just using folders should be enough, and if the folder contents get as massive as the Bleach example, then we can think about sub-pages.
That's my opinion.
Edited by ThMole^Correct. Unless the writers go batshit crazy with Loads And Loads Of Characters in Season 2, folders will suffice for now to keep the page less intimidating.
I'll make the changes over tonight.
And it's done. I also moved the Abridged Series entries to the Trivia section. They're funny and I like them, but aren't in-universe and don't belong on the main page.
SPECIAL NOTE!
Over on the WMG page something happened, so I'm noting it here in case it happens on the main page, too.
If a page gets full, it won't matter how many folders it has, because it will refuse to accept some edits.
If the main page starts acting up in this manner, THEN it will be time to split the page in a Bleach-like fashion. Until then, we can (if needed) just split folders that get too big into smaller folders.
PLEASE NOTICE: at the time I am writing this, there is nothing wrong with the main page, it is working just fine, and there is no need to split it. This is being noted for future reference only.
Thank you.
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GATTAI!!!!The Bechdel Test: This seems to be subject to some back-and-forth editing. Two points.
Firstly, there's this from the trope's page: "The test is often misunderstood. The requirements are just what they say they are — it doesn't make any difference if, for instance, the male characters the women talk about are their fathers, sons, brothers, platonic friends or mortal enemies rather than romantic partners."
Given this, there really seems to be no point in mentioning that the only time a male discussed by some females in a romantic context, or saying that what happens there is an instance of "playing with the trope", because that's no more relevant than if they were talking about a male in the context of buying ice cream from him or whatever. It's not a relevant only time. So let's not put that there.
Secondly, some recent edit reasons claim the Reverse Bechdel Test is completely missing the point (which is likely not the trope, by the way, as evidenced by how its name was changed to Comically Missing the Point). I think it makes sense to mention it somehow (even if not calling it that) because it is illustrative of how female-dominated the series is and thus of how and why it passes the test.
Edited by VVKWhy does eveyone on this website seem so spooked by Pinkie Pie's mad scene in "Party of One". I thought it was cute. I think Cupcakes is tainting everyone's perception of the episode.
Hide / Show RepliesThe normally cheerful pony suddenly turning into a schizophrenic wreck is already pretty bad, but the fact that she doesn't seem to change much personality-wise suggests that she's already close to breaking point. In other words, people are creeped out by it because it just seems to make too much sense.
I thought it was funny too. Just another case of the fandumb taking something too seriously.
There comes a time when one must decide: should I set that on fire, or not?Isn't Fan Dumb a little strong? She's normally the happiest character, and to see her break so hard was creepy.
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.It walks the line between creepy and funny. It's Black Comedy at it's finest and as with most Black Comedy, some people can be disturbed by it.
If anypony else had been the nut, it would have been Black Comedy. But Pinkie Pie can make anything cute. Nopony else could make madness look so adorable!
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Interesting thought there.
This may be Fanon, but A Precious Rainbow, one of the alternate endings to Cupcakes, claims that Pinkie's crazy scene in "Party Of One" is what caused the "Cupcake Killer" incident.
Edited by MugenKagemaruDid some kind of weird edit get done to the page? Suddenly all of the edit history is gone except for the most recent ten or so.
Hide / Show RepliesIt moved from "Main/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic" to "WesternAnimation/.MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic."
Edited by ThebesHas anybody else notice that moving the article to the Western Animation directory created a split in the count of Facebook Likes?
The title should have a capital I in Is. Every grammar book I've ever read says "is" is capitalized in titles.
Edited the episode guide for Putting Your Hoof Down so that IM Db is not 'open to be edited by the pubic.'
Still working on Good Style, so bear with me.Just checking out the Trope Pantheon section and I was shocked to find that there are no Ponies there.
Pinkie Pie for Goddess of Parties, I reckon. Any other ideas?
Edited by Captainhook Hide / Show RepliesWouldn't Derpy fit more as Goddess of Ascended Memes?
The state of TV Tropes.This poster◊, or part of it could be perfect for page image.
Edited by DeathCloud Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe. Hide / Show RepliesI think the page image should be an official image.
EDIT: nevermind, you fixed the link.
Edited by ThebesI prefer other picture that the one with legless Twilight.
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.Thebes: That IS an official image. And if it looks appealing scaled down, I think it would make for a much better representation of the cast.
Edited by ExarianWell, I can still make everyone out after scaling down to current page image's size. But it's awfully cluttered and I don't know if I'd like it, if I didn't already know all the characters.
Also, do we want that "Comic Con 2011" in the middle?
The state of TV Tropes.Styx D: there's a version without the comic-con... though I agree, it could be a bit too busy for the main page. Though it would be perfect for the Characters page or the Ensemble Dark Horse page, seeing as how most of the picture consists of the show's Ensemble Darkhorses
Edited by ExarianI don't know about a page image, but it is a good representation of the more well-recognized characters (mane, support, & background).
Since we have an Image LInks page with only one image linked on it, I'm just going to just add this image there. If I'm doing it wrong, I'm sure someone will correct my error.
I was especially amused by the three characters reacting to the cockatrice in the crowd (on the lower right).
EDIT: Whoops! Somepony beat me to it! go and see for yourselves!
Edited by ThMoleI posted this picture there at same time I started this topic :D
I still would prefer this than current one.
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.Styx D: there's a version without the comic-con... though I agree, it could be a bit too busy for the main page. Though it would be perfect for the Characters page or the Ensenble Darkhorse page, seeing as how most of the picture consists of the show's Ensemble Darkhorses
Hide / Show RepliesFor Ensemble Darkpony we need iconic picture of Derpy from first episode.
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.In reference to the first line on Stock Sound Effect: I don't want to edit it into the main page without confirming, but I think Pinkie's flying machine uses the sounds of the gum-making machine from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, the one with Gene Wilder in it.
Where did Freeze-Frame Bonus go? I don't see it on the main page or YMMV.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's Play Hide / Show RepliesI found it on one of the recap-pages. Freeze-Frame Bonus is always episode-specific, so I'm fine with that.
I found it on the main page, in the A-M folder, between "Forgotten Phlebotinum" and "Furry Confusion".
I checked the main page's editing history, and it was never deleted (although, like everything else, it has been edited a few times). Maybe it was moved to correct alphabetical order?
So apparently Scott Mc Neil voice one of the Diamond Dogs, but to date nobody's elaborating on which one. There's a small one, a medium one and a large one so it can't be that hard to tell which one it is to someone who is extremely familiar with Mc Neil's work. If anybody can confirm exactly which Diamond Dog Scott Mc Neil lent his voice to, that'd be much appreciated.
Where would it be relevant to say that "'Derpy is angry/sad about people making fun of her wonky eyes' fanart is really popular"? (sorry about the unclear phrasing.)
Cats can lie in wait for hours, then suddenly pounce on a butterfly. Hide / Show RepliesWhat trope do you think it is? Memetic Mutation is the only thing that comes to my mind, but I'm not sure
The state of TV Tropes.I would just put it on the memes page, rather than the main page. There, it doesn't need to be classified, just noted.
Edited by ThMoleDoes anyone know who provided the voice for Nightmare Moon? IM Db was no help.
I put my friend in a coconut! He lives in my hat! Hey, come hang out! Hide / Show RepliesOK, according to the "Characters" page here, both Nightmare Moon and Princess Luna were voiced by Tabitha St Germain, who also provides the voice for Rarity. She's quite a versatile voice actress.
I put my friend in a coconut! He lives in my hat! Hey, come hang out!Having just seen "Bridle Gossip" for the first time, I'm wondering if Tabitha provided the voice for Zecora, as well. Zecora and Nightmare Moon sound quite similar.
I put my friend in a coconut! He lives in my hat! Hey, come hang out!About the Ensemble Darkponies (Ensemble Darkhorse) page: I understand what it's for, but —
First, it doesn't fit the Index hierarchy (Ensemble Darkhorse/Western Animation is not an index page, and placing MLP:FIM in the folders on the Ensemble Darkhorse page itself doesn't add it to the index).
Second, there are entries for the Mane Cast, although the definition of an ensemble darkhorse is a side character making up part of the Ensemble, either a non-lead secondary character or a mere Flat Character, who can sometimes become unexpectedly popular with the fandom.
I don't want to delete the page, and I don't want to change the entires.
Is there a better index the Ensemble Darkponies page would fit in, or a better name?
Edited by ThMole Hide / Show RepliesAgree, Mane Cast doesn't belong there. Maybe only Spike but not rest.
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.Okay, I fixed what was bothering me.
Ensemble Darkhorse/Western Animation is now an index page, like Tear Jerker/Western Animation is, and My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic has been added there, and moved off of the Ensemble Dark Horse list of sub-pages, where it didn't fit wedged in under the link for Western Animation but before the folders.
Edited by ThMoleBy the way, does anyone know what word was swapped? I don't get it. "Even thought it rides high on the flank, Rainbow won't look like a tank."
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's Play Hide / Show RepliesWhen I watched it again, it looks like it wasn't even supposed to be a word swap at all.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayExactly. People are just looking for things that aren't there.
Oh...I made myself sad.The word "tank" doesn't really make sense there. Not that the show doesn't have awkward rhymes, but I'm not convinced that the insinuation there wasn't intentional. A dress riding up too high could easily make someone look like a skank.
That still doesn't mean the word swap trope applies to it, of course.
There are a number of nonsensical lines in that song. For example, "even if you have to fudge it, keep it within our budget" doesn't make a whole lot of sense when she's doing them all for free.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayBut it DOES make a hell of a lot of sense when you consider that the song and episode are just as much about television executives interfering with the creative process than about Rarity's dresses.
Could we get a better page quote? The current one from Chris Sims is a little weird. It just makes the show sound silly.
Hide / Show RepliesHow about something like, "Welcome to the herd"?
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's Play"Welcome to the herd" works, but to give the idea its full meaning it would have to be quoted from two or three different places — that usually have nothing to do with MLP:FIM — instead of just one the does.
Edited by ThMoleThere Is No Such Thing As Notability that quote works it has my vote
Make your hearth shine through the darkest night; let it transform hate into kindness, evil into justice, and loneliness into love.Can we not? Yes, we get it, this show is really popular with guys, can't you just quiet down and enjoy it?
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.Using "WHY DO I LIKE THIS SHOW?" and citing some faceless mass of people would look totally pedestrian. "Welcome to the herd" is simple and elegant.
(Though it's not like the show isn't a little silly in the first place...)
A made-up mass quote is not a good quote. Come up with something better or leave Chris Sims alone. Perhaps something from the show itself? This would have the added bonus of having to watch the episodes again to look for one.
Edited by DarkSasamiA made-up mass quote is not a good quote. Come up with something better or leave Chris Sims alone. Perhaps something from the show itself? This would have the added bonus of having to watch the episodes again to look for one.
Edited by DarkSasami^ Seconded. A quote from the show would be best. Pick a quote, any quote from the CMOF page.
Edited by UnwindingWeb Oh...I made myself sad.Just wanted to say that I think current quote(Lauren's) is awesome and fits perfectly.
Edited by TommyTreeThe quote has changed repeatedly today. Which one is awesome?
I really like the Lauren Faust quote that Eternal September keeps killing. Is there an actual forum discussion on this?
The quote has changed repeatedly today. Which one is awesome?
I really like the Lauren Faust quote that Eternal September keeps killing. Is there an actual forum discussion on this?
I meant Lauren Faust's quote. Spike's seems weird without context imho - he's denying something, and it's not obvious that he is a Hypocrite, so I'd prefer Lauren's. Maybe we should have a crowner for this?
Edited by TommyTreeI also much prefer the Lauren Faust quote. The Spike quote is clearly incomplete without context and thus sounds bad.
I also don't remember the particular discussion on the forum thread that Eternal September claims sealed the deal on what to use...
I thought the Chris Sims quote was fine. However, Faust's quote is an acceptable replacement, and the reasoning behind opting for that is fairly sound. That being said, Spike's quote is a horrible choice due to lack of context and should not be put up there.
I also would like to suggest that any quotes we don't use get put in the Quotes page. It's sort of what it's there for - not just quotes FROM the media in question, but quotes ABOUT the media too.
Moon◊https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=rp9u726d6kev3mymml5wtnxm&page=221 - here's that discussion that Eternal September is probably talking about (sorry that it is not a link, but I don't know how to make it). I didn't read all of it, but there are about two pages of the quote discussion. Besides, it's not clear which version people from forums supported, since both Spike's quote and Lauren's were suggested. Also, I think it's kind of unfair to pick quote on forum without putting link of work's page.
Agreed. You can call it consensus when it's in the discussion page or TRS, not some thread most of the editors wouldn't even know that exists. Anyway, I think Spike's quote is just weak. I kinda understand the intention behind it, but only because I know what Spike did before and after those words. It's certainly not very appealing to someone who does not know the show. And please, if it's decided that we keep it, remove the first sentence from the quote. It adds nothing and it's a direct reply to something not included in the quote — just plain confusing. I'd erase it myself right now, but at this moment the edits are too close to edit warring, and I'm not gonna touch that.
The state of TV Tropes.The thing I don't like about Spike's quote, aside from the lack of context, is that, when taken outside of the context of him being an audience surrogate and the quote being insanely hypocritical (after all, he was GIGGLING at the chance to go to the Gala immediately after), it sounds like he's badmouthing the show as a whole. I mean, seriously, if you weren't into the show already and just happened upon this page by chance, you'd see a very girly-looking cast in the page image to the right, and a quote badmouthing girly frou-frou stuff on the left. Is that really the sort of impression you want to give? I think not.
Moon◊The problem I have with his quote is that it makes it all about the male fans. As usual. Lauren's quote is a reminder that girly shows don't have to suck and this show leaves all the ones without effort in the dust.
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.Would anyone else say that this show's popular enough to warrant an episode guide? I think it would make the mane (hurr) article less cluttered, and give us more room to be specific on matters without getting all confused. Then again, it might just be my neat freak tendencies kicking in.
I don't write signatures. Wait, crap. Hide / Show RepliesIn order to reduce the length of the main page (and the character page too?) should we start moving tropes that apply only to one episode into the corresponding recap page?
I'd really like to say no - it always irks me a little when the tropes are all split up like that, or even into larger A-M, N-Z categories. It just doesn't feel like TV Tropes when you do that.
That said, this page IS getting pretty long. I can fit 3 sub-pages of Homestuck trope content in the same space, which is usually a fair sign of extreme length. I'm slightly concerned that the single-episode recap list isn't button-linked from the /Main page, though. Can we fix this?
The problem with moving one-episode tropes to the episode pages is that whenever a trope gets used in an episode you'll have to check each episode's page to see if it's been used before and then move it to the main page. Or you could just add it to the new episode's page, but then you end up with the same trope being listed on a dozen episode's pages but not on the main page.
There Is No Such Thing As Notability
Make your hearth shine through the darkest night; let it transform hate into kindness, evil into justice, and loneliness into love.hey i just fond out how the main characters can represent the seven holy virtues
Charity - Raity
Chastity - Twilight sparkle
Diligence - Pinkie pie
Humility - Spike
Kindness - Fluttershy
Patience - Applekjack
Temperance - Rainbow Dash
CRAAAAZY...toys in the attic, I am CRAAAAAZY Hide / Show RepliesAny thoughts on Lauren Faust (mostly) leaving the show? It sounds from her Deviant Art announcement that it's a combination of Executive Meddling and a wish to concentrate on other endeavors.
Hide / Show RepliesWe'll be fine. We bronies and fillies need to remember that it wasn't just Lauren who created such awesomeness, it was the writers, animators and voice actresses too - all of whom are staying.
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.Hopefully this won't lead to a case of They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. Chances are that it won't, but expectations are certainly set high.
add the fact that she is still listed as "Consulting Producer" for the second season, and I think there is little to fear, quality-wise
I find it kinda odd that the fic Bitter Sweet is listed as a good fic under Fanfic Recommendations AND under So Bad Its Horrible. Just a thought.
Hide / Show RepliesThe same thing happened to Cupcakes for a while. Fanfic Recommendations and So Bad Its Horrible are very YMMV. If there's a case for and against the fic, it should be under both.
Is the manticore actually an Androcles' Lion? I don't recall it ever helping them.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayOkay, so I appreciate that SNES went on a massive cleanup drive to put punctuation inside quotes, then deleted the image caption. Putting aside whether or not the grammar edit improves clarity, can we PLEASE reinstate the caption?
I don't want to start an edit war, but no reason for deletion was given.
Hide / Show RepliesThe Accidental Nightmare Fuel page currently has a picture from Pinkie Pie's mad scene as its page photo. I think Fluttershy's psychotic break better captures the feel of Accidental Nightmare Fuel. Fluttershy's expression alone is terrifying. Furthermore, was Pinkie's nightmare fuel really "accidental"? Psycho Fluttershy fits much more smoothly. Pinkie Pie's deranged tea party is more along the lines of High Octane Nightmare Fuel (or Nightmare Retardant; YMMV). Lets make Fluttershy the Sociopath the new page photo for Accidental Nightmare Fuel. (I think it used to hold that honor.)
Hide / Show RepliesSomepony else replaced it again. This time with a bunny scarier than Angel.
They probably replaced it cuz you need to start a discussion before changing images, and both of the suggested ones are JAFAAC... plus they sucked as examples.
There comes a time when one must decide: should I set that on fire, or not?I've heard that the episodes from iTunes have (or at least used to have) a bit of Digital Destruction going on (washed out colors and/or sound issues). Anyone know more about that?
Edited by WhatshisgameI removed the "Huffy the Magic Dragon" point under "Getting Crap Past the Radar." Someone reinstated it. I seriously don't think it counts. It's a reference to an old song. Parental Bonus at best. That's it.
No, I do not buy into the "marijuana reference" for an instant.
Fanfiction I hate. Hide / Show RepliesI know that the marijuana crap is an urban legend, but perhaps we can include the reference under Parental Bonus? It is referencing a well-known song, whether intentionally or not.
I'm thinking the Bloopers entry has become a long enough list to earn it's own page, like the Shout Out's did. Does anyone else agree?
Hide / Show RepliesI don't think there's a Bloopers hierarchy. (I could be wrong, though.) Perhaps the entry can be moved to Trivia?
That might work. Does anyone else think it's a good idea to move it to Trivia?
Sounds good to me, as most people probably won't notice a lot of them naturally (especially since some only last a single frame.)
Okay, I KNOW this conversation follows a trope of some kind but I'm not sure if it's Wrong Genre Savy or playing with A Test Of Character or some other trope I simply don't know about.
Applejack: Twilight, Sugar, I didn't mean to put so much pressure on you. And if it helps, I don't want the ticket anymore. You can give it to somepony else; I won't feel bad. I promise. Fluttershy: Me too. I just feel awful that I made you feel so awful. Pinkie Pie: And me too. It's no fun upsetting your friends. Rarity: Twilight, it was unfair of me to force you as I did. Rainbow Dash: YES! That means the ticket is mine! Beat Rainbow Dash: You know, I haven't perfected my signature moves for the Wonderbolts anyway...I don't need that ticket either.
Hide / Show RepliesI know what you're saying... my best guess would be that the overall scene is an exact inversion of Take Me Instead, momentarily subverted by Rainbow Dash. Thoughts?
I see your point, but if you look at that trope's page in detail it's actually talking about personality quizzes that determine the character you play in a video game. This example seems a lot closer to an inverted Take Me Instead, even if you don't think the trope's title sounds as relevant.
Okay, so, the Real Women Never Wear Dresses Aesop episode is pretty straightforward, but does it make it some other kind of Aesop when it uses abduction, something that most people consider a real (if uncommon) hazard of childhood, as the device to show how girliness can also solve serious problems? Because it seems like using your intolerable feminine whining and complaining to aggravate your captors would actually be a pretty bad idea.
Hide / Show RepliesYou're taking it literally. The Aesop about that episode was Rarity can still kick ass even if she's a little fashonista. Anything besides that, and what Twilight writes at the end of the episode, is audience interpretation.
There comes a time when one must decide: should I set that on fire, or not?Can someone explain me WHY Rarity would be considered 'Spoiled Sweet'? She isn't rich and isn't 'popular' either. Just beautifull and nice. So does this trope apply to her at all?
Hide / Show RepliesTo quote her character profile on the official website: "At first glance she may seem a typical debutant, vain and entitled, but it's simply not so! Generous to a fault, she believes so badly that the world should be beautiful, she's all too eager to simply give away the designs she works so hard on and to offer anypony a custom Rarity makeover."
To quote her character profile on the official website: "At first glance she may seem a typical debutant, vain and entitled, but it's simply not so! Generous to a fault, she believes so badly that the world should be beautiful, she's all too eager to simply give away the designs she works so hard on and to offer anypony a custom Rarity makeover."
Spoiled Sweet still requires her to be rich and influential, family-wise or, at least, tutor-wise. There's no such thing around Rarity, so she's just a plain Lovable Libby.
I'll concede the Spoiled Sweet point (tutor-wise?), but she isn't a Lovable Libby, either. That would require her to be The Libby at least part of the time, which she isn't in the slightest.
I'll concede the Spoiled Sweet point (tutor-wise?), but she isn't a Lovable Libby, either. That would require her to be The Libby at least part of the time, which she isn't in the slightest.
Agreed. She's never looked down her nose at anyone. The closest she's come was with AJ, and that was more an objection to her dirt than AJ herself.
It will not. Better to have nothing at all then something that isn't true.
There comes a time when one must decide: should I set that on fire, or not?This article is writen from Periphery Demographic point of view.
Do anyone know how target audience receive this show?
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe. Hide / Show RepliesI don't see anything wrong with the article. The show was created and written with "universal appeal" in mind, rather than "little girls", and by all accounts it succeeded.
Now that I have a Visual Pun entry made for "horse-drawn horse-drawn carriages", feel free to add other examples you find. Surely the show has more self-aware examples like this, the main article is starting to get unwieldy.
In order to keep the length of the main page down, I suggest removing the following tropes that apply only to one character and merging them into the Characters page:
Achievements In Ignorance, And I Must Scream, Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better, Arbitrary Skepticism, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering, Ascended Meme, Aside Glance, Beware The Nice Ones, Big Good, Butt Monkey, Cavalier Competitor, Cloud Cuckoolander, Cowardly Sidekick, The Cuckoolander Was Right, Cuteness Proximity, Evil Laugh, Face Heel Turn, Familiar, The Fashionista, Forgot I Could Fly, Friend To All Living Things, Genki Girl, Gibberish Of Love, Grumpy Bear, Hellish Pupils, The High Queen, Hive Mind, I Was Quite A Fashion Victim, Jerk With A Heart Of Gold, Jerkass, Kick The Dog, Large Ham, Leeroy Jenkins, The Load, The Mayor Who Doesn't Do Anything, Magicians Are Wizards, Miles Gloriosus, Moe, The Night That Never Ends, No Social Skills, The Resenter, Rhymes On A Dime, Sealed Evil In A Can, Shrinking Violet, Super OCD, Tareme, Those Two Guys, Your Answer To Everything
I can start moving these items in 24 hours if there aren't any objections.
Edited by SuddenFrost Hide / Show RepliesSounds good to me. In fact, I think some of those already are on the Characters page, but people either added them or added them back to Main because they didn't realize that there was a Characters page.
“I just think that's really shady." "Shady?!" - Stephanie & Chad, The Amazing Race 17I'll add Instant Awesome Just Add Dragons to that. It should go under Spike's character profile.
I think that dividing the article into three or more folders would be a good idea, considering how big is and how every week, the tropers add new content as soon they finish watching the new episodes.
Rico Suave.OK, now I think we're moving too many tropes into the character page. Does Twilight's library being a Treehouse of Fun really count as a character trope just because she lives there, for example?
Sweetie Belle's song is like Flutterguy's song in 'Bridle Gossip'. They're both different versions which are sung after 'the original'. However, what trope is this? They do it twice in the show so it must be placed on the main page. I wanted to add That Reminds Me of a Song but that doesn't work since that wasn't how Sweetie Belle's scene went. Any suggestions?
Hide / Show RepliesCover Version seems to fit, but there may be a more appropriate trope associated with it.
Shouldn't we add that the series has concluded somewhere on the main page?
One cleanup thread later... Hide / Show Replies