Cleaning Up Needless References To Reviewers

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Bringing up the following example from The New 52: Futures End:

• Like You Would Really Do It: As Linkara pointed out in his review, the event billed itself as being the future of The DCU...but 5 years is a long time, especially for comic books. No one seriously bought that this would be the future of DC Comics, when at best, it was something that could happen, especially since comic books don't lock in plans for the future that far ahead. Regardless, Dr. Manhattan basically ensured that it wouldn't but could happen (what with all alternate universes being real.)

Cut out "As Linkara pointed out in his review,"

Bringing up the following example from Be a Whore to Get Your Man:

• Hobgoblins plays this one utterly straight, with the protagonist Kevin's girlfriend Amy starting off the film as frigid, prudish, and impossible to please (she calls him "pathetic" because he lost an impromptu mock battle against a friend who'd literally just gotten back from the Army). Then the hobgoblins use their Mind Control powers to lower her inhibitions, which makes her go to the local nightclub and start stripping before her friends intervene. By the end of the film, it's clear both Kevin and Amy are happier now that she's "loosened up". MST3K's remarks on this:
  Crow: So, Mike, I learned from today's movie that Daphne was a slut, and Amy wasn't fun until she became a slut.
  Mike Nelson: Well, that's the fun message of today's movie!

Just cut the MST3K mention.

This was on the Trivia page on Carrie (1976):

• Follow the Leader: Any film about a teenage outcast who gets revenge on her (or, less commonly, his^note If it's a male villain, it's more likely to draw on the Columbine massacre and other real-life school shootings for inspiration.) classmates is going to be compared to Carrie at some point. Doubly so if the revenge is carried out through supernatural means.
  • The most egregious example is possibly the 1978 film Jennifer, which is basically Carrie with snakes! Lampshaded by The Cinema Snob when he reviewed both Carrie and Jennifer on the same video.

The Cinema Snob reference doesn't add anything. You can cut that.

It's also poorly indented, and the Recycled In Space pothole should be cut.

I'm not even sure if it's an example as written since it claims these films will be compared to Carrie but that doesn't suggest they're all direct imitators.

Regarding the indentation, the entry listed other works that supposedly copied Carrie. I left those out because this was the only example that mentioned a specific reviewer.

Bringing up the following examples from Not Even Bothering with the Accent:

• In The Untouchables (1987) his character is supposed to be Irish. When asked why he barely attempted an Irish accent for the film, Connery reportedly said, "If I didn't talk like this, you wouldn't know who I am." (It was named "Worst Accent Ever" by a UK magazine.)
• In The Hunt for Red October, Connery plays a (Soviet) Lithuanian submarine captain. He speaks both Russian and English with more or less his standard Scottish accent. To native Russian speakers, Sean Connery speaking Russian with his Scottish accent is absolutely hysterical.
  Craig Ferguson: (imitating Sean Connery, using a Scottish accent) Yes, that's right, I'm a Russian submarine commander. I'm Sean Connery. I know it, you know it, you're lucky I'm even in this piece of shit. Now let's get moving.
• In The Wind and the Lion, Connery plays a Berber chieftain with his usual accent; this was roundly mocked on an in-episode movie parody of SCTV, "How The Middle East Was Won," in which Eugene Levy as Shawn Connorie as The Mufti utters the line: "I'm the bluidy Mufti. Awa' wi' ye."

• Batman & Robin decides to make Barbara/Batgirl Alfred's niece from England instead of Gordon's daughter from Gotham but Alicia Silverstone doesn't even try to do an accent. (The Nostalgia Critic, for one, guessed she was Scouse based on the Fake American slant attempted by The Beatles in their early career.) An odd case because this trope could have been avoided altogether if they had just stuck with the comic book version (or at least have Barbara be native, there's no reason she couldn't have moved to America as a kid). Ironically, Silverstone herself, while American-born, is the child of two British immigrants. So she really didn't have any excuse.
• Also from the DC Extended Universe, Wonder Woman has a very justified case given Diana is just vaguely European (mostly Greek in the comics, but the movie is unclear on where they placed Themyscira), so Gal Gadot's Israeli accent fits. The Editing Room even lampshaded how the rest of Themyscira follows her diction:
  CONNIE NIELSEN: Oh alright, but... Hey wait a minute, why do we all sound Israeli?
  ROBIN WRIGHT: Because adult Gal can’t do any accents other than her own. She's basically the new Schwarzenegger.

Cut out all the references to reviewers and such and rewrite the sections a bit to make it look like they were never there.

Going back one page, this entry for Only Six Faces:

• It was recently discovered by reverse engineers and modders that The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild uses a more advanced version of Miis for generic humanoid NPC characters (referred to as "UMii" in the game's files), likely done to streamline the process of creating multiple different NPC models to populate the game's towns. The modders that made this discovery have found ways to actually convert regular Miis into this format, though it does have limitations (not all hairstyles and facial features like moles are supported).

I don't think this should be cut: it's an interesting and valid example of the trope, and it's not from a "reviewer." If the fact that it's reliant on an article is a problem, it could be rewritten at most. And that "recently" needs to go.

Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on Apr 30th 2022 at 1:47:34 AM

It hasn't been cut. "Recently" could be changed to "in December 2020" with no damage to the entry.

However, I don't see how it's a valid example of Only Six Faces. I know very little about Miis, so the entry doesn't tell me anything about how much variety the faces have; and using this basis for "generic humanoid NPCs" doesn't say anything about the rest of the cast.

Bringing up the following examples from The Reader:

• Nazisploitation: Film critic Mark Kermode points out this film is a high class Oscar Bait variation of this subgenre.
• Oscar Bait: In 2005, Winslet appeared in Ricky Gervais' Extras as an over-the-top version of herself, and claimed that she was only doing a (fictional) Holocaust movie for a long-overdue award. When she was set to win the Best Actress Oscar for this film, Gervais joked about her Extras appearance at that year's Golden Globes.

Comment out the first one since it's a ZCE without the mention of Kermode, clean up the latter entry so it was like the critic mention wasn't there.

The page quote for Nu Metal is just a quote from Todd in the Shadows mocking the genre. Should I take it to the quote forum for a replacement quote?

I'm pretty sure we frown upon complaining quotes for creator and genre pages, so go ahead. We replaced Electronic Music's quote for also being a Todd complaining quote after all.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on May 7th 2022 at 12:05:05 PM

Okay, I'll take it to the page quote thread.

Bringing up the following examples from Surveillance as the Plot Demands:

• Mocked by Linkara in his Kool-Aid Man #1 review:
  • There Kool-Aid man is able to bring up a camera shot of some "Thirsties" bothering some children even though he shouldn't be able to switch to footage of this, relating Kool-Aid Man to Big Brother.
    "The Kool-Aid Man sees you when you're sleeping. *leans in close to camera* The Kool-Aid Man sees you in your nightmares."
  • He actually did this joke before with Mr. T as well.

• Transformers Generation 1:
  • It is crawling with hidden cameras, from both the Decepticons and the Autobots. Oddly enough, even when they're supposedly connecting with the 'visual sensors' of another bot, there's always some sort of angled camera view instead. The Transformers wiki often lampshade this with their Improbable Viewpoints entries.

• Lex Luthor:
  • Super Friends. He had cameras everywhere, including Earth orbit...and near the Earth's core.
  • And as Seanbaby pointed out, they could have used blackmail to take over the world several times over by now... except it's the Superfriends, the show where everyone, hero or villain or the show's writers, is Too Dumb to Live.

Cut out all the mentions of critics and re-write the entries to make it look like they were never there.

Bringing up the following example from Courtroom Episode:

• The series finale of The X-Files, "The Truth", was literally an instance of putting the truth on trial. Mulder was already found guilty on a murder charge before the trial began.
  Joe Ford: The entire basis of Skinner's defense seems to be to prove the existence of a government conspiracy...What will he pull out of his hat for his next case? The existence of the Loch Ness Monster to explain why oil prices need to rocket in Scotland? Walter Skinner, Attorney: Paranormal Defense. I have to give Mitch Pileggi his due, he jumps into the role of defense lawyer with some gusto.

Cut the critic quote.

Found this on Springtime for Hitler:

• Friends of the People speculates that this is what happened with Family Matters. Specifically, they claim that the network cancelled the series after 10 episodes, and the writers tried to take the network down with them by introducing an intentionally annoying and ridiculous character. That character was Steve Urkel, who became so popular that he not only saved the show, he eventually took it over.

What should I do with it?

If there's no proof that the show was indeed canceled before the writers introduced Urkel outside that video, the whole example should probably be cut.

One of the two page quotes (there should be only one) for The Gobbledy Gooker is a reviewer quote that only seems to be there to complain about it. Should I cut it?