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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
She / Her
I don't think so, though you're right in that the description is prolly too vague. I guess I'll leave it the same unless there are any objections.
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Laconic.Unfortunate Names currently reads "If a person has these, they will be ridiculed or hated." You don't expect to see "is this" ZCEs in laconics, lol
Uhhhh anyway replacement suggestions?
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She / Her
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
I agree that that needs to be replaced. Going off the first and fourth-to-last paragraphs, here is my suggestion for a replacement:
Reposting
part of something.
Here's my suggestion for Laconic.Mini Mecha:
She / Her
Bumping.
low-poly Shinri
Found this on Xenogears
“Sigmund Freud has sex with the Holy Bible while Neon Genesis Evangelion operates the camera and Mobile Fighter G Gundam watches.”
It doesn’t actually describe what Xenogears is about, and it requires knowledge of all subjects involved. Anyways for improvement?
Edited by Ayumi-chan on Jun 29th 2022 at 9:26:10 PM
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
the Retromancer
Literally anything else would be better. If you're unfamiliar with the game (I'm not), try carefully reading Xenogears page and a few synopsises online and try to think what it's about in a single sentence.
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She / Her
Yeah, that needs to be reworded![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
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I agree. I'd hate to get off-topic here however, would it be ok if I swap your rewrite
for Laconic.Public Service Announcement and move the current version to the "unabridged gag"? Additionally, can I use your version of Laconic.Indian Burial Ground just with the change I suggested? I'll also link your post in both edit reasons.
the Retromancer
I was literally just revising that, ironically. Agree on Public Service Announcement meanwhile. How do these sound from your comment?
Edited by Amonimus on Jun 29th 2022 at 5:06:59 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
She / Her
For Laconic.Public Service Announcement, I'll work on that.
For your suggestions, they look good to me. Though, just wondering, is there a reason you didn't pothole Haunted House in the description for Indian Burial Ground?
the Retromancer
Because I copied the text from the post and forgot there's a space.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
She / Her
That makes sense. You can swap the descriptions if you like.
the Retromancer
I know these will be too context-reliant, but these select Kamen Rider laconics have some issues that I believe I can fix. At least some are just plain bad by our standards.
She / Her
I agree with you and you can use those replacements.
low-poly Shinri
I’m not very fond of this laconic for BlazBlue
“ Guilty Gear's Darker and Edgier Hotter and Sexier Troperiffic Spiritual Successor. “
Open to any alternatives.
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
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Laconic.Thirty Hs is doing the two-laconics thing. One of them amounts to "X Meets Y", while the other is a copy/paste of the fic's (extremely non-indicative) official summary, so we actually don't like either of them.
Any ideas?
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Laconic.Thomas Sanders is too long because it has a disclaimer note; can I cut it?
I'd like to apologize for all this.
She / Her
Yeah, you can cut the note.
Angry babby
Cut the note, it's overdefensive and irrelevant. If it's responding to the pothole, Literal Split Personality isn't always meant to represent alters in the same way as Split Personality anyway.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
She / Her
Do you all have any ideas for a Laconic for Concealed Customization?
A suggestion for Concealed Customisation:
or
A few cases of lazy laconics that sinkhole Exactly What It Says on the Tin instead of creating a laconic that genuinely reflects the trope. Suggesting the following replacements:
- Laconic.Jerkass Gods
Gods that have such little regard for the value of human life that they will use or discard humanity as they desire.
- Laconic.Little Black Dress
The simplicity of a person's black dress creates a powerful, stylish impression that would look good in any fashion era.
- Laconic.Magic Hair
A character's hair possesses magical properties or abilities.
- Laconic.Nature Lover
A character's love of nature reflects their wholesome personality.
- Laconic.The Power Of The Sun
A character has the ability to either harness or replicate the sun's power and properties.
- Laconic.Would Harm A Senior
Something about a character's personality, morality or circumstances makes them willing to harm the elderly.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Jul 18th 2022 at 11:30:18 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
low-poly Shinri
those look good
She / Her
I wrote Magic Hair, rewrote Nature Lover, and I wasn't being "lazy" when I wrote them; I was just giving them concise descriptions. After all, we're supposed to try being concise in Laconic pages.
For Jerkass Gods, the main page states it applies to "all of life". Also, there are works that lack humans.
In Little Black Dress, slightly trim "a person's" to "someone's" or "somebody's".
For Magic Hair, marginaglly trim "A character's" to "Somebody's" or "Someone's".
As for the Nature Lover one, the main page suggests it isn't always a sign of the character's goodness, so we shouldn't mention that.
For The Power of the Sun, I'd add that it can apply to a device too. This is stated on the last paragraph of the main page.
Would Harm a Senior should be trimmed to this:
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jul 21st 2022 at 7:55:50 AM
Johnny L. Garfield
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Laconic/CaroleAndTuesday
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Laconic/DomesticGirlfriend
I have modified these a bit, but I think they still need modification. What say you?
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... in the absence of any input on Thirty Hs, we're gonna try "A Troll Fic in which Harry Potter does a disconnected string of confusing and manly things."
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Do they have to be clown-themed? Or just flashy and chaotic? Some examples lack the former so I'm unsure if that's misuse or a just broad trope.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.