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  • Awesome Music:
    • The main theme. Seriously, try listening to it without getting the chills. Just try it.
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    • Not as well known but equally iconic to the series is "The Shape Stalks", which has appeared throughout the films as Michael's stalking theme within the films thanks to its feeling of dread and suspense.
  • Complete Monster: See here.
  • Creepy Awesome: Michael is often cited as one of the best slasher movies villains, despite(or probably because of it) being a living and unstoppable abomination with a passion for slaughtering human beings.
  • Crossover Ship: A non-romantic example. A lot of fan art portrays Michael as close friends with Sam.
  • Cry for the Devil: The remakes timeline depict Michael's childhood as depressingly broken. Whether you do feel sorry for the guy is up in the air.
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: No matter what series timeline you follow, Michael always lives to kill another day, and anyone who survives one film will just die horribly come the next sequel, including Laurie, Dr. Loomis, and Jamie. And unlike Friday the 13th or A Nightmare on Elm Street, the series hardly tries to have fun with it's superhuman villain and plays his rampages as more brutal, dark, and cruel with each successive installment.
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  • Evil Is Cool: Like all the other horror icons, Michael Myers is definitely this on account of his ability to inspire fear and his array of memorable kills.
  • Fanfic Fuel: The story of the sixth film was left hanging after its poor box office and critical reception led the franchise to be partically rebooted, making the last four films non-canon with the release Halloween H20: Twenty Years Later; but, then, after the sequel to the previously mentioned installment, Halloween: Resurrection, bombed the box office, was panned by fans and critics, ''and'', to add even more salt to the wound, Moustapha Akkad, the producer for all the films up to that point and the man responsible for carrying the franchise through its Dork Age, was killed in a terrorist attack three years later. The story to the last two filma were left hanging and the franchise overall laid dormant until the franchise was rebooted with Rob Zombie's duology. Still, despite the reboot and the fans hatred for the last films of the Thorn and H20 timeline, there are many fanfics and fan-films that continue the stories of these separate continuities. Aside from fan material, there have also been offical continuations of the Thorn and H20 stories through comicbooks set in those universes.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: In a franchise that spans multiple timelines and alternate continuities, this was bound to happen:
    • Only the Cult of Thorn timeline happened after the first 2 (or 3) films and ignore everything afterwords, with many claiming these films captured the atmosphere of the actual holiday of Halloween much better and for being the only timeline to feature fan favorite character Dr. Loomis.
    • H20 was the only true follow up after Halloween II. There was nothing else in between and it ended right there with Laurie decapitating Michael for good.
    • Only the films with John Carpenter’s involvement exist, whether it’s directing, writing, or even composing (1978, II, Season of the Witch, and 2018).
    • Season of the Witch was the only true sequel given the franchise was supposed to transition from slasher movies to an anthology series afterwords.
    • There were no films after the first 2. Helping that case is John Carpenter wrote it with the intent to kill Michael off completely.
    • There were no films after the original, period. It was only one movie. Probably helps that John Carpenter considers the original a stand alone, and the sequels to be an obligation if anything. II & 2018 may be exceptions as many fans agree they came close to replicating the atmosphere and tone of the original.
    • Basically, the only thing fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that Resurrection never existed and should’ve never been made because of its terrible excuse of a retcon to arguably a perfect end with H20 and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. note  Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it and went on to state she considers H20 the ending.
    • An Inversion for some. There's other fans who prefer merging the Thorn and H20 timelines together. There were plans to do so that didn't make it into the final cut.
      • The Chaos Comics miniseries tried to officially tie them together, but were ommited from canon ironically by the later release Resurrection. A new line of comics were written taking Resurrection into account but no ties with the Thorn trilogy.
  • First Installment Wins: The first film is a universally praised horror classic. The sequels...vary in quality. How well they hold up varies from fan to fan to say the least.
  • Franchise Original Sin: A huge negative on the franchise is Michael's inner machinations being explained as they end up downplaying the horror. The explanations start to creep in at around the fifth installment, but all of this actually started with the second film. Michael's reason for attacking Laurie is revealed as them being siblings and Michael leaving behind graffiti reading "Samhain" suggest that he's connected to the occult. These were contested, but it didn't start to become a problem until the fifth and sixth films started adding more plot elements to the point they became convoluted and outlandish, straying far away from the simplicity of the horror and Michael's character in the first film. While the twist was kept for the H20 and Rob Zombie films, the latter perhaps was the breaking point for Michael's inner machinations unraveling as his backstory was showcased, which was heavily criticized for being a far cry from the force of nature he was in the first film. Perhaps because of this, Michael was reduced to being a mysterious killer in Halloween (2018) once again.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: The success of comedian Mike Myers makes it a bit hard to take a villain with that name seriously. Indeed, there are a couple of videos on the internet that have Mike Myers voicing Michael Myers.
  • It Was His Sled: Michael is Laurie's brother. A lot of people know this by now since both timelines of the original franchise kept this twist and the remake doesn't even bother hiding the fact, although this was subverted with the 2018 installment, where the two are once again not related.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Of all people, The Shape himself albeit only in the Producer's Cut in the Thorn Trilogy. The fifth and sixth films establish that Michael has been cursed since childhood by the Cult of Thorn, and ever since childhood, he has been forcefully driven by an evil rage to murder his entire bloodline and anyone in between. Other than being forced to kill, he was also made to rape his own niece, Jamie and either kill her child or pass on his curse on to him. And he knows what he's doing. He knows that he's killing people, but can't stop himself; he even cries near the climax of the fifth film because of this, before succumbing to his rage again.
  • Older Than They Think: Incidently some of the more unfavorsble aspects of some of the sequels were implemented prior to said sequels.
    • The familial aspect: Some may frown upon the aspect of Michael and Laurie being siblings. Even John Carpenter himself says he regrets the twist and that it was the result of an Ass Pull. However the novelization of the orginal film, predating the second, shows that Michael was fixated on Laurie for reminding him of his sister.
    • The sixth film isn't well liked for introducing the idea that Michael was placed under a curse due to dark outside forces beyond his control, yet the novelization of the orginal film showcases Michael as a victim of Demonic Possession and he kills in hopes her can get the voices to stop tormenting him.
    • Later down the line, the ending of the Producers Cut of the sixth film has Michael faking his death by forcibly swapping clothes with someone else. He does the same in the later sequel Resurrection.
  • Only the Creator Does It Right: Played With. While John Carpenter and Debra Hill wrote the original and most popular film in the series, the first two sequels made with their involvement aren’t viewed as fondly. However, both films have a Contested Sequel status owing to their involvement and are viewed in higher regard than some of the sequels (Namely the fifth, sixth and eighth installments), making this a Downplayed Trope.
  • Sequelitis: Most of the sequels are considered to be unable to measure up to the original, with Resurrection being regarded as the series' nadir and the Rob Zombie-directed reboots being a divisive affair. The only films in the series that are considered to come anywhere close are the second, third and eleventh films, and that is a point of contention.
  • Signature Scene:
    • In the original, Michael Myers quizzically tilting his head while looking at his kill, who is pinned to the wall with a large knife. The shadows and heavy breathing make it an iconic, creepy moment. Michael's white mask emerging from the darkness as he's about to slash Laurie is also an unforgettable moment.
    • In the second film, Michael Myers has a similar moment by lifting a nurse she stabbed in the back just by the handle of a scalpel. Same head tilt, same curious disposition. The scene is even redone in H20.
  • Surprisingly Improved Sequel: IV, H20 and the 2018 film each recieved this reception. All three came after heavily polarizing sequels and showed the slasher trends of their time to box office success and improved critical reception.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Though the original film is deservedly a classic, the Halloween series could have spawned some far more interesting stories if the studio had gone ahead with John Carpenter's original plan of making it a Genre Anthology about stories set on All Hallows' Eve instead of just turning it into (what quickly became) a generic Slasher Movie series.
  • Uncanny Valley: The original Michael Myers Halloween mask was a William Shatner mask, spray painted white and with the hair frizzed out and eyeholes altered. The effect is downright creepy.
  • The Woobie:
    • Never mind that he is one of the few characters who doesn't get horribly murdered, does anything good ever happen to Dr. Loomis? The poor guy desperately tries to end any more carnage caused by Michael, but fails repeatedly, often due to Michael escaping, being too late to save anyone, or being ignored by most everybody he warnings. His fates in the continuities of the Thorn and H20 timelines have him either killed by Michael in the sixth film (or cursed by Wynn in the Producer's Cut) or dying prior to the events of H20 from heart failure, but not before Michael tortures his love interest in front of him and reveals that he knows that his sister's still alive and is going after her. Honestly, the closest he has to a happy ending is in Halloween (2018)'s timeline, where he's dead before the events of the film and has died fearful that Michael will escape again, but had at least managed to keep Michael locked up before he died, without him escaping.
    • Jamie Lloyd. Her mother died in a car accident, her uncle is a monstrous killer who is dead-set on killing her, is kidnapped by the Thorn cult at the end of Revenge and she is killed off at the start of Curse (and Producer's Cut of the film reveals that that her baby is the result of Michael raping her).
    • Laurie, especially in Zombie's 2. Not only does she lose her friends but, going by canon, she loses her daughter to Michael (Thorn canon), loses her family (H20/HR canon), and either ends up becoming crazy or getting shot dead by the police (Zombieverse). In the 2018 film, she spent decades as a nervous wreck scarred by the events of the first film, which ruined her relationships with her family, though this timeline at least offers her a potential happy ending.
    • Lindsey Wallace, as depicted in a comic series in the H20 timeline, could easily rival Jamie in terms of having a depressing, downer outcome. In this series, it shows that after the events in the first Halloween, she became an absolute wreck - getting addicted to drugs, becoming clinically depressed and paranoid of Michael Myers. Her fears come true when he does begin stalking her for real. What does she get for all the grief and pain she suffered since she was a child? Michael slicing her tendons and murdering her anyway. If you want this series to end on anything resembling a not depressing ending, you're going to want to stop watching after Halloween II or watch the 2018 film.

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