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...What? She barely knows him (her friend Tatsuki has to tell her about Ichigo's mom), she didn't get much time to get to know him, and now she's in love with him? How can you go from "I like him because he's funny" to, a few months later, after limited interaction, "I love you so much that I'd love you in any life after this one"?
Simple: she's in love with her version of Ichigo, not the real Ichigo.
She sees him as a hero. He saved her from the monster her brother became, he saved Rukia from certain death, he saves people. We all know Orihime has a wild imagination, so she probably saw him as a Knight in Shining Armor. A man who could do no wrongs, who was noble and kind, who slew dragons and saved damsels. That's why, when she first saw him with his mask on, she was scared of him: because it didn't match her fantasy. Because heroes don't become monsters, because they're noble and good and kind and save the princess because they love her, not because they want to fight the dragon guarding her.
She wasn't afraid of her brother, who was an eleven-foot-long Hollow that spat acid and tried to eat her soul, even though she had no idea what was going on. She wasn't afraid of Ulquiorra, whose second release form looked like the devil incarnate and who blew a hole through the man she claimed to love. Heck, she even tried to hold his hand while he died! She wasn't scared of actual Hollows, just Ichigo-with-his-Hollow-mask-on. And that says a lot.
That's why she freezes up on the dome: because her fantasy was shattered. Because the dragon isn't supposed to kill the hero, because the hero isn't supposed to Come Back Wrong, because the princess is supposed to be a Damsel in Distress (which is also why she steps back and doesn't interfere with Ichigo's fights, because she's supposed to be rescued, not the other way around).
If she really were in love with Ichigo, she would not have sat there bawling after Ulquiorra killed him. She would have gotten mad, thrown everything she had at him, again and again, even if it doesn't work.
All she does is put up one half-assed shield. No Tsubaki, no healing fairies for Uryu, nor yelling or karate (which she's a black belt in). Just one shield.
And she certainly would not have forgiven the man who killed her soul-mate and injured another friend. Eventually, maybe, but right then and there? She may have cared about Ulquiorra, but that just means it's even less likely she'd forgive him for "betraying" her.
Conclusion: Orihime is infatuated with Ichigo, not in love with him, because you can't love someone you don't know. She doesn't know him, she's built up a fantasy with him as the knight and her as the princess, she humbly does everything he says even when it would be more beneficial to help him. That's not love. That's just fooling yourself into thinking it's love.
- Not just Orihime's hero, everyone's hero. He does say he wants to protect as many people as he can.
- Orihime wouldn't be crying when Ichigo cries if it was a shallow type of love.
- Fridge Brilliance: This is why his inner world is underwater with despair when he next visits it. He saw himself as that hero, and the fight with Ulquiorra showed him, like Orihime, that he wasn't.
She is in fact the daughter of a Lord of Hell, kidnapped and sent into exile by minor demons as a result of some sort of power-struggle in Hell. (Or maybe Aizen was involved somehow: an actual scion of the Lords of Hell would make an... interesting experimental subject. But he worked through subordinates, and Bad Things happened to those who were supposed to deliver her to him.)
Kenpachi is not a Demon. Demons do not have Zanpakutos.
Demon Lords, on the other hand, do have the ability to summon spiritual creations like the Bount's "dolls" to fight enemies they consider not worthy to personally dirty their hands on. Unlike Bount dolls, a Demon's summons are quite variable in shape or power depending on the will of the Demon Lord, and a powerful enough Lord can create multiple ones.
Yachiru is among the few known cases of a young Demon doing this unconsciously, and the only one to remain ignorant of the nature of the bond betweem herself and her creation.
Yachiru does not remember it, but her "familiar's" form is based on her dim mental image of a what a protector should be.
Kenpachi's somewhat demonic appearance is no accident. He's a chibi, "cutesy" version of Yachiru's dad.
Kenpachi's power levels vary, since Yachiru unconsciously empowers him more or less depending on whether he's having fun and what she thinks of the opponent (she didn't want the funny Ryoka smeared all over the landscape, whereas she didn't like Nnoitra at all.)
Kenpachi has a Zanpakuto because Yachiru thinks he should have one.
Kenpachi has never achieved Bankai partly because as powerful as Yachiru is, she's still not powerful enough to create a familiar with his own Bankai spirit power.
Not yet, anyway.
Yachiru's dad has never spent much effort looking for her; being a Demon Lord, he's inevitably kind of a Jerkass.
One of these days, however, she or Kenpachi will manifest power on such a level that it will be felt in Hell, and then the fewmets will really hit the windmill.
- Kenpachi's got his own Zanpakuto (name and everything after the training with Unohana), not to mention the reason for why Kenpachi's power fluctuated was because of the psychological limiters he placed upon himself to allow himself to adjust his power to the enemy's.
- It's later jossed as it's revealed that Yachiru is Kenpachi's zanpakuto.
- Judging by Komamura's metting with his great-grandfather, he was born is SS. And yes, there are an entire clan of wolf/dog creatures.
Alternatively, Orihime can do this when her fairies pull an All Your Powers Combined.
Besides, they sorta look alike.
- There are examples of Orihime literally reversing death. That's pretty damned powerful.
- HollowAizenIchigoShinjiUlquiorraUrahara = IsshinKensei = WonderweissGrimmjowRose = LoveKukakuOld Man Genocide / YamamotoRyuuken IshidaAllonMashiroUnohanaYammyShunsui = Yoruchi = Lisa = StarkUkitakeByakuyaKenpachiHitsugayaHachi = Tessai = IkkakuBarriganIshida = GinSui-FengHarribelNel = NoitraHiyoriUruruRenjiGinreiKanameSajinZonmariMayuriSoken IshidaSayazalKaein = DordoniiAaroneiroYumichikaHisagiRangikuMomo = IzuruSun-Sun = CirucciApache = Mila RoseRukiaChad = Iba = Pesche = GentenbainneRudobonNemuIsaneNanaoGanjuDondochakkaHanatarouOmeadaYama's Vice CaptainJidanbouJintaAfro-SanKonLuppi
- Note that the variation in power levels, as in a character exceeding or not matching up to their rank, is because I did this based on their performances in fights and it's assumed all here would be using their full power level even, those that have yet to be revealed, and this list is subject to change. Ulqi and Grimmjaw are so high due a second transformation and being able to fight Shinji one-armed, respectively, and Stark is so low due to being killed by a Shikai.
- Also Yachiru and Orihime were not listed, due to Orihime having a diffrent type of power that could potentially destroy the world, and Yachiru being either the strongest or weakest character on the show.
- Old Man Genocide is #14? If this is true then he should die before this all ends. Especially since he's hardly done anything that mattered. (Yes that includes sealing off Aizen. Like he was going to fight before his mooks were destroyed...)
- Awkward moment when you realize Old Man Genocide does indeed kick the bucket in the current arc...
- Considering Shunsui managed to solo Stark with only his shikai while Love and Rose got their asses kicked while teaming up against Stark, I'd have to say Shunsui is being criminally underrated here.
- No all the normal captains are all roughly equal in power shunsui is no different starrk was just not as strong as expected, Ulquiorra is the most powerful of the espada and second to aizen in his intire army. Also Ichigo in mugetsu is technically stronger than aizen (or "on a higher level").
- I'd put Aizen as number 2. Old man genocide is according to 393 stronger than even Aizen.
- Not quite; Aizen states that, if his and Yamamoto's zanpakutous' respective offensive abilities are taken into account along with their "personal combat prowess" (i.e., The Official Battle Data), Yamamoto would come out on top.
- This seems wildly inaccurate. Some of the people here are obviously more powerful than some above them. This drawn from either reading the manga thoroughly or from personal opinion, not logically drawn conclusions.
- Okay, as of chapter 394, so very, very wrong about Old Man Genocide!
- I'm now wondering where you got this info from.
- How in the hell is Kuukaku stronger than freakin' Old Man Genocide?
- And if you feed it to Frampt, he gives you 200,000 souls.
The "king" of Soul Society is really the greatest villain. My reasons are as follows:
- Why doesn't the king possess the key? Why is a key so hard to procure? Simple, he is locked in a prison, not a palace. The freakish soul transfiguration is in place to keep said prison from ever opening.
- Why does the king need guards? Seeing as how the soul society works, the real king would be leaps and bounds beyond any of the other shinigami, meaning that guards would only get in his way. As such, the only reason the guards are there is to keep the king from escaping.
- Why hasn't he left to help stop the Hollows? Simple, the Hollows are working to free him.
The last point leads to the fact that it is highly possible that Aizen is the king's servant/heir/student. This is why he is so hell-bent on getting into the "palace."
- This troper would like to put forth the theory that, if this is the case, Gin is following Aizen around in order to stop him from succeeding in freeing the king. Aizen gets SO close—and gets stabbed in the back.
- Alternatively, Aizen doesn't know it's a prison, but Gin does. Aizen plans to kill the king and take over. Gin will betray him, and instead free the King.
- Jossed entirely. The king is needed to maintain Soul Society's balance, it's not a case of Asskicking Leads to Leadership, Aizen hates it, and Gin had other reasons.
- This troper would like to put forth the theory that, if this is the case, Gin is following Aizen around in order to stop him from succeeding in freeing the king. Aizen gets SO close—and gets stabbed in the back.
The Gates to Hell in the early chapters, anyone?
This troper strongly believes that Yhwach and the Soul King are brothers.
- As of Chapter 611, Juha Bach claims they are father and son.
- Also, when you think about it, this is especially true in respect to his full-Hollow form, because that could possibly be the key to defeating Captain Broken. Think about it, in his new super-powerful Hollow form which he used to defeat Ulquiorra, he was (presumably) fighting purely with instinct. Aizen's power controls the five senses, and last I checked, instinct wasn't one of them. Also, if you remember his fight with his inner Hollow way back when, Ichigo won THAT battle with his killer instinct. Perhaps this was a way to foreshadow how Aizen possibly could be defeated. (Then again, this is Captain Broken we're talking about, so who knows?)
- Jossed. His inner Hollow is actually the real Zangetsu.
- Considering how Fullbring revealed that inanimate objects have souls too, this suddenly became slightly more likely than it was before.
- Well the sword was known as "the Soul of the Samurai" so it makes sense...
- Jossed. Kenpachi learns his sword's name in the Blood War arc.
- That... actually makes sense! Congratulations, you have just turned one of the series' biggest Wall Bangers into a moment of Fridge Brilliance for me.
- What is this doing in WMG? WMGs are allowed to make sense, but this much makes this a Fridge Brilliance entry at least! The reason for that is, Ichigo's being incapable of surrender is a direct result of the nature of BOTH his powers, Hollow power will go berserk and completely level all planes of existance, and Shinigami power will just say "Fuck you, I quit," and basically die out, since the Shinigami power is tied to his resolve and he just quit, which is DEFINED as a loss of resolve.
- No really, this actually IS Fridge Brilliance, I'm with the ones above me. This makes you look at the fight between Ulquiorra and Ichigo in an entirely different light!! Honestly, this could be a very good personal view of how that fight went down, its officially headcanon for this troper personally.
- The Hell Verse movie was for the purpose of exploring Hell. The residents there are called Togabito, and Arrancar's souls go there when they die if they were evil in life, just like regular Hollows, and apparently keep all their powers.
- They get reincarnated in the living world. Also, they purify Hollows, they don't torture them (except for Mayuri at some point, but he's lost interest in them at this point).
- Kenpachi. Fucking. Zaraki respected this woman. This is how the scene where her husband tries to kill her would go: Yachiru blows his fucking head off. Not with her sword. With her reiatsu alone.
- Whoever said the original Yachiru was a woman? Just putting that out there.
- I got it: Isshin was actually born [somelastname] Yachiru. And that's why his son has a girl's name.
- Now we know Yachiru IS a girl. She's Unohana, the First Kenpachi. No wonder everyone was so afraid of her...
- Perfect fusion of Shinigami, Hollow, and human. Otherwise, Aizen could use any other Vizard.
- As it turns out, Ichigo is the All Your Powers Combined of the Bleach-verse's supernatural powers.
- It's not inconceivable that one of the Arrancar would be a water elemental. That or they aren't really drinking tea, it's just an illusion that Aizen made.
- This is the real reason he recruited Harribel.
- Well, pretty much confirmed, seeing how the Hogyoku can bend reality to the will of the person with the most influence over it.
- And it will all occur on Chapter 400. Four is death.... times a hundred!
- And the only way to stop Aizen from completely conquering the real world is to summon another hero to combat him. In relation to the "No More Holding Back" Speech WMG above, we send help from another dimension. Aizen will never know what he got into when Simon shows up. And, in turn, Aizen will summon other villains from different realms... to have an epic Final Battle in the real world!
- In addition, due to Simon and presumably Ichigo coming to the real world, Ichigo's leaking spiritual energy will combine with Simon's Spiral Power to grant the denizens of the real world super powers to fight against the armies of minions the villains are sure to bring with them.
- And Ichigo will turn into a chainsaw-wieldin', motorcycle-ridin', babe!Orihime-and-Rukia-gettin' supreme form of Gurren Lagann. That uses the universe as a chainsaw-shuriken to turn Aizen into antimatter, causing him to explode 100 times in the most awesme fireworks show ever seen (because he's still in contact with the atmosphere).
- And the only way to stop Aizen from completely conquering the real world is to summon another hero to combat him. In relation to the "No More Holding Back" Speech WMG above, we send help from another dimension. Aizen will never know what he got into when Simon shows up. And, in turn, Aizen will summon other villains from different realms... to have an epic Final Battle in the real world!
- Jossed by the Deicide arc.
- Looks that way since he knew about Isshin...
- Wasn't that pretty much confirmed long before the HM arc began?
- Er....no it wasn't. The one responsible for Masaki's death is Ywahch anyhow.
- Masaki would have lost her powers but might have survived if she hadn't been attacked by a Hollow at that very moment. And Grand Fisher being sent by Aizen was kind of implied, although AFAIK not confirmed—at least not in the manga. Ultimately, it probably was Aizen and Yhwach unknowingly(?) cooperating.
- Er....no it wasn't. The one responsible for Masaki's death is Ywahch anyhow.
- More possibly, people who just recently attained Bankai are pretty much beginners compared to the veteran captains, so they need to rely on their Bankai when fighting a serious opponent.
- Well, we know she has automated anti-intruder programs—remember how she bugged out and robotically assaulted the enemy that one time? Its pretty damn obvious that she was made for this war, it only makes sense for her to have a specific purpose rather than be a minor footsoldier...
- Yes, I do remember that. Perhaps that's what started me thinking me about it. She's got some sort of berserk mode, it's weird.
- Jossed.
- Jossed by Anything But the Rain arc.
- Yuzu would be easier to kidnap, but Karin seems to be the most useful. Karin is basically a Distaff Counterpart to Ichigo; just three years younger (so her shinigami powers haven't fully awoken yet). If Aizen can't get Ichigo, he'll go after Karin, train her into a powerful shinigami, and then use her for whatever it is he's planning.
- One problem with that—he's a character original to the anime, and not part of the actual plot of the series, but rather filler made to pad that particular story out a bit.
- Which is all exactly as he has planned! How else to get people to doubt your plot if you only appear in one medium?
- Confirmed. Kaien is his cousin.
- And nobody likes him! IT'S A PERFECT MATCH!
- Alternatively, Kubo is Aizen, and Bleach itself is Aizen's Evil Plan to show all of the world the Release of Kyoka Suigetsu. Only after Aizen finally releases it onscreen will Kubo/Aizen's true plan be revealed, once we are all powerless to stop it.
- This may just be the translation, but remember when Aizen said "you're the child of a Shinigami and a-" *boom! Isshin shows up*? Ichigo was so shocked by Aizen saying the first part, then by having Isshin confirm it literally a millisecond later, that he didn't even care about Aizen's unfinished statement. Ishhin clearly wanted to leave the "Quincy" part out for the time being, and the distraction worked! If he hadn't interrupted, then Aizen would have spoiled that revelation over a YEAR before he finds out in canon!
- Although Super Saiyan (Vasto Lorde) Ichigo would detonate the Universe.
- Alternatively, that's a result of Shounen Syndrome.
- That would actually explain a lot.
I base most of this WMG on two factors: 1) Arrancar don't seem to need to eat souls anymore (they don't mention the desire, certainly) except in unusual cases like with Syzayel's Fracciones, and 2) Nel and her Fracciones are positively gentle by the standards of every other Hollow we've ever seen, suggesting that Arrancar do not fit the Always Chaotic Evil mold of Hollows in general. For that matter, Arrancar seem as a whole more sympathetic and honorable than ordinary Hollows, even if they tend to be evil by human standards (e.g., Grimmjow's flashback, the Privarrone Espadas that Sado and Ichigo fight early on in the Hueco Mundo arc, and so on)—the tendency towards ill could be explained by simple familiarity: they've been cruel and callous long enough to consume the number of souls they need to in order to reach the Menos state at least, and this mindset is not one that is easily dispelled. Types like Syzayel and Ulquiora could be explained simply by variant character types—there are people who are gonna be bastards no matter what race you look at.
If we take this prospective, then we can also infer why he insists that he doesn't have a name. His parents didn't give him one so he has no idea what to call himself.
- The reasoning is jossed but the theory is true. Whitey's backstory explained in Anything But the Rain arc.
- But according to Aizen's explanation of how the Hougyoku works, the Soukyoku would have already been capable of becoming an anthropomorphic personification.
When you think about it, a weapon whose true power is its level of control is the perfect complement to Ichigo's Hollow abilities, which rely on unbridled raw power. Considering that Ichigo gained both Zangetsu and his Hollow side at the exact same time, it's possible that Zangetsu's entire purpose is to give Ichigo a means to control his own strength, in Hollow form or otherwise. It could also explain Zangetsu's appearance. He represents what Ichigo could be: a wise and experienced swordsman in control of his power and his emotions, as opposed to a Hot-Blooded kid with Power Incontinence and a Superpowered Evil Side.
- I have another theory to complement yours; One of Tensa Zangetsu's main attributes is compressing Ichigo's massive spiritual power in order to use it effectively. I noticed that Ichigo doesn't actually have a sheath for his sword. So when he's ready, Zangetsu will give it to him, saving Ichigo's power for the right moment. This will be key to defeating Aizen. The sheath allows him to perform battojutsu which gives extra power and speed. Combine that with Getsuga Tenshou and you have a deadly technique (I've been reading Rurouni Kenshin).
- The reason Ichigo's bankai seems so weak is because it's only half-powered. I highly doubt Zangetsu would be so easily beaten by Ichigo; he was probably satisfied with him and gave him his current bankai. Does anybody think it's weird that after Soul Society, Zangetsu disappears? I think it's because Zangetsu wants Ichigo to master his inner Hollow so as to stop relying on Zangetsu's power. When all is said and done, Ichigo will have his "uber-Hollow form" plus Tensa Zangetsu's full power.
The Hogyoku as a parallel of Orphan was a fal'Cie that was charged upon its creation to help humans (or human-like beings) by turning their desires into reality, provided it's actually possible. Since it has a will of its own, however, it realized that no matter what happened it was really getting the short end of the stick as it could never actually fulfill its own desires. What it wants throughout the duration of the entire series is to die to escape having to serve everything else but itself and to that end, sought out people it believed most capable of destroying it: The main six people being Urahara, Rukia, Ichigo, Ishida, Orihime, and Chad, in that order. The other characters just happen to get swept in by association.
The Hogyoku found Urahara first (during Turn Back the Pendulum) and tried to turn him into a l'Cie. Since the Focus it would have given Urahara went directly against what the Maker made it for, instead it gave Urahara a vague glimpse of Shinji and the other shinigami turning into "Vizards". When Urahara actually witnessed it happening and tried to reverse the process using the Hogyoku, instead it carried out its own Focus and fulfilled Urahara's desire, which was apparently "fuck things up worse". The story The Hogyoku's plan spun out of control from there, as Urahara "discovered" what he thought was its true power, thinking that the Hogyoku itself was responsible for the "Hollowification" process.
Urahara hid the Hogyoku in a gigai, got exiled, then handed the gigai to Rukia after Episode 1. The Hogyoku didn't actually try turning Rukia into a l'Cie but it was still compelled to carry out its Focus to fulfill her desire, which was to lose her powers permanently. Passing on her powers to Ichigo was a total accident, but staying powerless was the Hogyoku's doing since Rukia felt herself undeserving of staying as a shinigami. (Which means that Urahara didn't naturally make a gigai to strip a shinigami of their powers; that'd just be silly.)
Rukia's being close to Ichigo during the beginning of the series in an effort to train him worked somewhat to the benefit of the Hogyoku, as Ichigo wanted to become stronger to be able to protect his friends and the Hogyoku granted it, thinking Ichigo would be able to destroy it with brute strength. That... didn't work. Ishida (as Hope) showed up in the "Quincy Archer Hates You" volume, blaming all shinigami including Ichigo (who would be this universe's version of Snow) for the extermination of his clan and challenging Ichigo to get his revenge. All of the events happened the way they did, including Orihime and Chad getting their powers. Contrary to the explanation of the Hogyoku having worked on their desires to become stronger, the Hogyoku's Focus working on Ichigo. As hollows invaded Karakura Town, Ichigo wished somewhere in his subconscious for the two to gain the power to protect themselves (and others) so that he wouldn't have to, as he had his hands tied in the meanwhile. The Hogyoku made it reality by causing his already abnormally large reiatsu to leak out towards them, and BAM! powers.
Somewhere in Soul Society, Aizen as Barthandelus (and therefore also a fal'Cie) had already caught wind of the Hogyoku and its wish-granting ability and wanted to use it to destroy Cocoon Karakura Town. The spiritual energy released by the deaths of millions would create the King's Key, which would open Heaven and allow him to meet the fabled "Spirit King"/"Maker" that left the throne long ago. For that, Aizen spent the entire Soul Society arc getting the Hogyoku in his possession. And it wouldn't be much of a surprise if it turned out he created Karakura Town specifically for the purpose of killing off everyone living there.
NOTE: As for Menrva: as an aspect of the Big Bad, Menrva would have to have been something inconspicuous, capable of being Aizen's eyes and ears to monitor things while he hid in the shadows. If/When found, Menrva would need to deflect suspicion by doing something that could redirect the protagonists' attention. Say, delivering messages back and forth, like the Hell Butterfly. Come on. When's the last time we've seen one of those things guiding a shinigami or sending messages after the Soul Society arc? It was a guise, most definitely. Also, just because it isn't necessarily getting any panel time doesn't mean it's not there, so it could still continue monitoring things in Hueco Mundo, with no one the wiser because they're busy fighting.
OF COURSE: The "Hollowification" process mentioned earlier was really Aizen's plot to create Sacrifices out of Hiyori, Shinji, etc. etc. by making them l'Cie/Arrancar without a Focus. As the Captains and Vice Captains didn't know what to do, their increasing panic and distress increased the rate at which they were turning into Hollows, this version of Cie'th/Undying. Luckily they didn't actually turn into full-blown mindless monsters, and the brands that they were given (their Hollow masks) were rendered somewhat ineffective. They still get the benefits of extra ATB gauges— er, I mean...
After the arc, the Hogyoku and Aizen had an absurdly short battle of wills. What with the Hogyoku being a Death Seeker whereas Aizen wanted everything else to die instead, Aizen just needed to subdue the thing. The Hogyoku obviously could not deny its Focus to help whoever came near enough to it (provided they want to accomplish their goal badly enough), so it lost. That in no way meant that Aizen won completely; the Hogyoku still worked under the constraint of "do what is possible", and destroying Karakura Town in a heartbeat was not possible with Aizen's power. What was possible, was all the stuff that ended up happening afterwards up to and including the Fake Karakura Town arc: the Arrancar, the Mind Screw(s), all of that was do-able somehow. This WMG will skip the explanations for all of that (and forego some mention about Chad getting his Hollow-like powers as he's slowly becoming a Cie'th, and that lying in a pool of his own blood is what's best for the show) and head straight to the key player in the endgame: Orihime.
Orihime (by complete luck on the Hogyoku's part) attained the Godlike powers to reject reality, but as the story has it, Aizen broke her psyche to stop her from destroying the Hogyoku and wreck his plans. Eventually she'll leave Hueco Mundo and use her powers to wreck his plan anyway, and that will be relatively easy. Rejecting the Hogyoku's existence is within her power, and given that her will outclasses Aizen's at that point, the Hogyoku will do as she wants, put itself out of existence, and end the story.
- I thought only virgins survived horror movies. Wait, they're not mutually exclusive. So Ichigo's definitely surviving anyway. Carry on then.
- I SO hope this happens.
- I'm willing to bet that Loly and Menoly will end up having the last laugh by the end of the series somehow.
We all pretty much know that Aizen is a lying bastard. Coupled together with this we have Isane explaining what Aizen's shikai does just after he had stabbed Hinamori. According to her, his shikai is water based and uses the reflections in the water to make enemies fight themselves (As you can see, this fits him perfectly). But Aizen then tells her it was a lie when actually that was his true shikai, and complete hypnosis is his bankai. It would explain why it is so broken.
If not, then due to recent circumstances, we will never find out what his bankai was.
There's almost no other way of explaining why he has the power to fight Hollows. Maybe he was Isshin's lieutenant?
That would explain why, as a shinigami who should hate the show, Isshin watches it to support his old lieutenant.
- Alterantely, his brother. Or his real father. Or his mother.
BECAUSE HE IS SO Hot-Blooded!!
- You horrible, horrible person.
- ...It just came upon me when I found out that Keigo's voice actor played a guy called Kamina in another anime/manga. Besides, Keigo's even listed under Hot-Blooded in the tropes.
- I was referring to the pun, or play on words, from Hot-Blooded and fire. You see?
- ...It just came upon me when I found out that Keigo's voice actor played a guy called Kamina in another anime/manga. Besides, Keigo's even listed under Hot-Blooded in the tropes.
- Keigo is voiced by Yuri Lowenthal in the dubs. Meaning his power could also involve drills, transforming into superpowered alien life-forms, or super-powered Anti-Hero-villain...thing with eye-based powers.
- So in short, Keigo will develop the Mangekyo Sharingan.
- Because Obfuscating yourself by acting stupid is something Ichigo's dad has already done. Kanonji has already encountered hollows without trouble too, he just acted like he had trouble in order to not give himself away to Ichigo, who he knew had to either be a new recruit, or not someone he recognized as a Soul Reaper, so he acted in trouble to see if his actions were noble in motive. He decided Ichigo had much to learn, and let him on his way.
- Now on Ichigo's father watching his show: He's not doing it for entertainment, he's doing it to make sure no Vasto Lords appear to take him out.
- OH EM GEE YES! THIS MUST BE TRUE! FANGASM ALL THE WAY TO THE MOON!
- Seems shockingly possible given that he was able to block one of Aizen's attacks.
- This person called it. Well, at least the WMG did, even if the explanation is wrong.
- What A Twist!
- It's a plot point that Ichigo isn't under Kyoka Suigetsu's control. I think he, or his friends, would have commented on how everyone uses male identifiers when referring to Aizen. Especially because the Japanese has gender-ized...alot of different words.
Since we've seen Urahara already battle Aizen once, it would make sense that he would avoid revealing his mask in front of non-Vaizards to prevent long explanations, etc. It would also allow him to replace Hiyori and it would be a (potentially) great asspull.
- Jossed. No matter that this doesn't show in the anime, his mother is Quincy.
Think about it. All of the major players, or anyone with a significant backstory, are still in Hueco Mundo waiting to come join the fight. And when they do... Granted, she already helped Ichigo escape from HM but after that we haven't seen anything of her. This would also explain why everyone is scared of her: She can totally shut off any other persons power, taking them down to normal levels. It also fits with her position as the captain of the healing squad, as she would help others without getting involved herself.
- And, if you ask this troper, it will be called... Tenkai.
- Jossed. Her Bankai has something to do more with death, considering she was the original Kenpachi.
- If he ever tells Kira that there's something familiar about his hairstyle, I'll consider this canon.
- Amazed not one theory on this page stated this, so I'll call it: Yachiru is the manifestation of Kenpachi's zanpakuto. It/She's pretty much a mix of Zangetsu and Katen Kyokatsu. Probably he got his amnesia and became the strongest shinigami the same day he spontanously achieved bankai and <?> Yachiru. I'm thinking some Stark/Lilynette-wise story, but waiting for a big plot twist.
- If so, Tite Kubo must make this series, for the sake of humanity itself!
- A side effect of Yamamoto releasing his bankai is that it extinguishes all the flames his shikai has released. Maybe Aizen's bankai releases everyone from the hypnosis, so he would never use it unless he were truly desperate. By the time he gets that desperate fighting Ichigo, his sword has already broken and he CAN'T use it.
- Possibility: Aizen's Shikai controls the senses. Since Bankai is supposed to be similar, but 5-10 times stronger, my idea is that his Bankai controls PERCEPTION. So he releases his Bankai, and everyone immediately lowers their guards because they no longer perceive him as a threat, even as they watch him cut them down one by one. It's a SEP (Someone Else's Problem) field, among other things. Moreover, fitting with the enemies-fight-eachother theme, it can make them perceive each other other as dangerous enemies.Aizen: BankaiIchigo: Nothing happened...?Aizen: No don't you see, my sword is now slightly longer, and bent, like a corkscrew.Ichigo: What is this, I don't even...Aizen: It's cause I've got a screw loose.
We know his Shikai has the ability of perfect hypnosis. He was able to trick the entirety of the Gotei 13 into thinking his released form had running-water type abilities, so why wouldn't he be able to trick them into thinking he had achieved Bankai when he hadn't? We never once see Aizen try to use his Bankai. It's possible that Aizen never achieved Bankai, or even possibly never could in the first place. (Byakuya does say that not every Shinigami can achieve it, and even though Aizen is incredible, it's still possible he wasn't ever able to achieve it). His goals revolve around surpassing the limits of a Shinigami, and eventually becoming an immortal being just short of a god. It's possible that Aizen was either never bothered by his lack of a Bankai, or part of his motivation for obtaining the Hougyoku was to compensate for this.
- This gels nicely with the notion that he "shouldn't use it where people can see." It's NSFW!
Ichigo Kurosaki, after losing his mother, began to claim he could see ghosts. His remaining family decided it would be easier on him if they just believed him. His father claimed he could not see ghosts at all, and his sister Yuzu claimed she could only kinda see them, but his other sister Karin claimed she could see them but didn't believe in them.
Whenever his sister Yuzu pointed out that he had "another one" his mind would conform to the delusion and he would "see" the ghost his sister had "seen."
However, on the day he saw his first Hollow it was in fact the day he lost his mind. The following night his family bore witness to his complete breakdown and were forced to place Ichigo into an insane asylum. Thus EVERYTHING that has happened since then is merely the deeply disturbing delusions of a deeply disturbed boy who feels guilty over his mother's death.
As such Bleach will end with Ichigo finally coming to terms with his mother's death and returning to a normal life.
- This was all ready pointed out.
- The more I think on it, the more it seems that Kyoka Suigetsu might actually be Aizen's Bankai, not his Shikai. Therefore, the names could be zangetsu, engetsu and Suigetsu.
- So Aizen has been trolling with his Bankai not his Shikai...that makes him slightly less broken.
- Mentioned in a previous WMG already.
Yachiru has a cat-shaped reiatsu. She was also seen wearing a cat costume from time to time. All this is probably hinting that her Shikai probably involves a cat-like weapon.
He already has. His spiritual pressure is so massive that his Zanpakuto automatically assumes Shikai form (canon) and then jumps automatically to Bankai, without need for a hundred years of training. Yes, he's just that badass. The shape his sword is in now is his Bankai. Remember when Ichigo (before finding out about Bankai) asked Kenpachi "So your sword doesn't get stronger than this?" Kenpachi did not deny this.
Alternate Character Interpretation ahead.
Aizen wants to become God so he can link everyone together and dispel what he perceives as 'loneliness'. If we see his backstory, he'll probably have a Freudian Excuse about this. It also explains why he's left Gin alive. In Gin's backstory, we see he was lonely until he met Rangiku, but still feels pain from the experience, especially since Rangiku almost died. Gin probably told Kira this, and that's why Gin doesn't believe Kira thinks he betrayed him. In Chapter 412, him attacking Rangiku is so that Aizen doesn't kill her in a worse way.
So in short, Aizen wants to unite everyone, Gin wants to stop being lonely, Kira is unsure what to do and Matsumoto is still where Gin shanked her.
- Does this mean they're all going to get hugged and turn into Tang?
- ...Tite Kubo... STOP READING THIS PAGE. OR CONTINUE TO DO SO! You Magnificent Bastard.
The reason why Ukitake doesn't want Shunsui to use in a place where there are lots of people is because it's actually a Japanese Game show. Everyone gets forced to participate and the loser dies. Only one person can remain standing making it dangerous if there are allies playing.
Just fits Shunsui.
- The show is actually MXC: Extreme Elimination.
- Was actually hoping for the 'if you get a limerick wrong, get smacked in the nuts by a flyswatter. Facepalm's for everyone!
- Hypnotoad. It makes perfect sense.
Hell, maybe Gin is the son of a Squad 0 member (Perhaps even Kirio herself). As to why he just sliced Hiyori in half in this case, well... we already know he's a heartless emotionless bastard.
- Nope, and Kirio gets seen in the final arc. It's called a Call-Back.
- The reason Isshin knew about the time warping effect was because he used to be in the king's guard.
- Then the 'janitor' being is some kind of advance guard, meant so that no-one stays long enough to figure it out.
- Infinite space to build, too.
- YOU! ARE! AWESOME!!! This is the best WMG I have seen. Tite Kubo, if you are reading this, and we all know you are, please make this one come true!
- Don't forget Kishimotowould need to sign off on this... and I would actually pay to see Ichigo vs Kaguya
- Gin is a sadist. He LIKES killing people. He likes hurting people. He doesn't need a reason.
- Or does he? Gin had been following Aizen for over a century in order to take revenge for Matsumoto. To stay by Aizen's side, Gin probably created a false persona and did things he otherwise would not have done.
- He has a similar personality to Mewtwo, and his Evolutionary Tree is Aizen-(via Hogyoku Stone)->Mulletaizen—>Butterflaizen. Butterflaizen's moves consist of Confusion, Hypnosis, Taunt, and Focus Blast, and he has an infinite supply of Full Restores.
- It's somewhat obvious; Findor is an Evil Genius normally, but it's only when he shatters his mask that he goes mad from the power his mask gives him. It does explain a good bit if you think about it; the more powerful he becomes, the less sane he gets.
- She didn't look too beaten up, at least not bad enough to inspire Gin to set off on a 100-year grunge plot, so it's not too far of a stretch to think something worse must have happened. Plus, her clothes looked loose.
- Theodore Roosevelt. The only reason I can think of as to why was because that Teddy was fed up how Soul Society and the afterlife was run and decided to take charge. This would mean he just succeeded in becoming King if Aizen manages to break in, which means that Aizen is in for a brutal asskicking.
- Jossed. We never saw it before the Hogyoku took it away.
- 1. He says he wants to become God.
- 2. He says Orihime's powers are like that of God.
- 3. Orihime makes energy shields.
- 4. Aizen inexplicably had a shield set up on his biggest blind spot/weak point.
- 5. Orihime can bring the dead back to life, in a way that is similar to but different than healing.
- 6. Suddenly Aizen has healing capabilities (because of the Hogyouku, sure).
- 7. Orihime has six fairies that are the manifestation of her powers.
- 8. Aizen has six sets of butterfly (or fairy) wings.
- 9. "He wants to touch Ichigo's heart and eat him."
Basically, he's becoming Orihime. Evil, no-problem-with-slicing-people Orihime.
- Also, butterflies symbolize death in Japanese mythology.
- Next thing we know, Aizen will develop an insatiable appetite and develop a crush on Ichigo. Before growing jibblies.
- Ichigo regenerates due to his two halves (human and shinigami) switching places.
- Ichigo, being disqualified from resurrecting in either soul society or the human plane, is consumed by the universe.
Now, which one of these two options seems more likely for a show like Bleach?
- Kubo rewrites the ending to the myth so that instead of being separated from her husband, the goddess Orihime spends eternity with him. One of them has powers over time, space and all creation, while the other has powers over life and death. The result is that they both wind up immortal, perhaps with the caveat that they must lock themselves away together in the Royal Realm.
- The rest of his power ups is because he's in puberty or something.
- Similarly, Kenpachi was a hollow — perhaps even a natural Espada — that was purified and sent to Soul Society and still has a link to Hueco Mundo, which is why he's so ridiculously more powerful in the Hueco Mundo battles than he had been shown to be in the Soul Society arc. Hell, that trick of his that made him uncuttable to anyone with reiatsu weaker than his seems oddly similar to the hierro used by the arrancar.
- I was thinking this too. After all, Tensa Zangetsu's ability is supposedly the compression of reiatsu (which makes him faster and stronger) so it's not too much of a stretch to think that Ichigo's new bankai can compress his reiatsu so well even Aizen can't sense it.
- great call!
If the object having it's weight being increased is a weapon like a Zanpakuto, it makes the wielder incapable of letting go. Even if Wabisuke doubles, quadruple, or octuples (eight times) the weapon's weight, the wielder would just be able to let go, and fight bare-handed. So Wabisuke prevents the enemy from letting go as it strikes the weapon the opponent is holding. In that sense, it is like a gravity effect.
- I think its more likely that their fingers just end up stuck between the ground and the hilt of their sword, it'd be kinda tricky to get your fingers out from underneath something that weighed a few tons.
- Rangiku dropped her wabisuked zanpakuto in the invasion army arc but who knows if that counts
- Really? because judging by her figure, all her fat is located in her boobs.
- Ichigo and aizen are both going to evolve at least one more time- when the smoke clears, all that will be left is two Kenpachi's. At this point, Kenpachi prime will show up, and an eternal 3 way battle will begin.
- Why the fuck didn't this happen!?
- Ichigo and aizen are both going to evolve at least one more time- when the smoke clears, all that will be left is two Kenpachi's. At this point, Kenpachi prime will show up, and an eternal 3 way battle will begin.
- Before Aizen was introduced, the story followed a standard story: Guy gets powers, inherits the responsibility of fighting off enemies, and protecting the weakened Rukia. Only when Aizen appeared and hypnotized Tite Kubo did the plot start to get Aizen-centric. Now suddenly, everything that happened is because Aizen planned it. Aizen makes himself more handsome, Aizen gathers a team to make him look charismatic but kills them all later so they don't steal his thunder, Aizen ends up making the Hogyoku before Urahara, Aizen ditches the story of the Quincy because they have nothing to do with him, and you'll notice since he left Soul Society, Aizen NEVER LOSES. Then one day, an editor not under his influence snaps Tite Kubo out of it. Tite Kubo seals him away as soon as he can and starts an entirely new arc with entirely new enemies: The way he wanted Bleach to be before Aizen hypnotized him!
Shinigami require formal training, they need to train in reiatsu control, they need to discover and master the powers of their Shikai and Bankai. They should learn and understand kido, fighting techniques, shunpo and so on and so forth. Being a Shinigami is all about learning to understand your own powers—and it's a looong, looooooong process.
What about Hollows? I don't think we've ever actually seen a Hollow training anything, ever. Arrancar, maybe. But a Hollow? I don't think so. Hollows are also confirmed to be creatures of pure instinct.
But how does this work, exactly? I think that all Hollows innately know everything about the powers they possess, they perfectly know how to use their bodies to the utmost limit, they instantly know any and all means about how to channel reiatsu. This is why an average human being that has no reiatsu whatsoever can become a threat when he transforms into a Hollow - they instantly become the equivalent of a tenth-dan black belt in utilizing their own bodies and what little reiatsu they have.
Ichigo possessed immense spiritual pressure from the very beginning which is why he appeared to be so powerful to Rukia when we were still pre-SS arc. He wasn't actually learning anything quickly. He simply had so much power that any of the challenges he faced were small potatoes in comparison. He also had at least some martial arts training and therefore, he already could fight efficiently.
At that time, he wasn't confronted with any challenges that could not be solved through brute force. When he was, for the first time, he simply got killed(Byakuya). After the Shattered Shaft training, Ichigo's sheer, raw power was simply not enough anymore. It's not enough to have immense reiatsu if you're going to be confronting lieutenants and captains. But this is also where Ichigo gains his Hollow.
Ichigo is not fully Hollow and therefore, he can't instantaneously know absolutely everything about his powers. But he's part-Hollow. This means that he can learn with a terrifying speed. This is what Hollow!Ichigo was talking about when he said that Ichigo lacks instinct. If Ichigo tapped into his instinct, he'd learn far, far more quickly. We've also seen that Hichigo is generally the one who grasps techniques quicker and learns more quickly which also supports this theory.
Urahara probably used the risky Shattered Shaft training precisely for this reason. He knew that if Ichigo was a Vizard then he'd be able to learn how to use reiatsu extremely quickly. If he wasn't part-Hollow then he'd need decades or centuries to learn how to use his Shinigami powers. On the other hand, as a Vizard his extremely quick progress was basically guaranteed.
This theory is also supported by the fact that Tousen, when using his Resurrecion form for the very first time ever is able to utilize it fairly well(not perfectly, but he's quite good at it). Also, at least some of the Arrancar(like Wonderweiss) are recently created but we've never really seen them complaining that they lack training, they never really seem to discover any new abilities, they seem to know basically everything there is to know about their own powers. They can advance - Nnoitra shows this - but it's probably due to their Shinigami power.
Also, notice the progression of Hollows. Why do Hollows need to devour other Hollows to progress at all? Why can't they simply train? This theory neatly explains this - it's because all Hollows innately know everything about their own powers. Training is useless for them and they need to devour other Hollows to become more powerful.
tl;dr Hollows instinctively know everything about using their own powers/bodies. They require no training whatsoever to know how to use them and from the moment of creation they're the equivalent of a martial arts master. This explains why the part-Hollow Ichigo has such a rapid power/skill growth.
- Probably a Shout-Out to SSJ3.
- Then how do you explain Ikkaku's strength? Since he's bald, by your logic he should be completely powerless.
- No one ever said it's only hair on a person's head that generates power...
- Ah, Hell. This is truly scary. It was bad enough, even when there was a valid reason, to think that the Shinigami, even if the Quincy really did give them no other choice, couldn't think of any better solution to their problem than what essentially amounted to genocide. But if there was really no other reason for the massacre two hundred years ago than that Aizen manipulated it all, then this really opens up a can of worms, since all those people (upwards of ten thousand, I'm pretty sure) died for nothing.
- Well, something that could complete the theory is that when Aizen got all the souls he needed (Quincy or not), he just let it continue; Mayuri did experiments on many Quincies, but he never told how many, or even if their souls were there since the massacre started, which could make a brief opening for this theory. The question that doesn't stop buzzing my mind is: "why killing them all instead of just turning their strongest members into substitute Shinigami or, I dunno, teaching them all some goshdarned kido?" Traditions and taboos be damned, there are Hollows eating souls.
- Doubtful considering that Kubo has said that Urahara was originally going to be the Big Bad that Gin was working for, back when Aizen was going to stay dead.
- Confirmed, without the last part.
OWARI DA!
- Jossed, though it makes you wonder how he knows about the FGT in that case.
And then there's Mayuri's Ashizogi Jizo. My reaction for the longest time was "What the heck? It's got nothing to do with Mayuri." I mean seriously, look at it. It's an Ugly Cute little baby head with butterfly wings that can barely utter the word bankai, if even that. Mayuri is a jerk Mad Scientist. There's also the fact that the bankai is a giant catapiller with the same baby head, which may indeed be way bigger and more powerful, but still is sort of a regression from a butterfly. WHAT THE HECK.
So here's the theory I created. Mayuri has been mentally reverted and mode-locked as a very young child. Though he kept all of his science-based intelligence, he lost... pretty much everything else, especially social skills. So he's mentally a toddler running around with the body and vocabulary of a scientist who's been studying/working for who knows how many years. If nothing else, it would explain his complete inability to relate to someone else; really young kids are egocentric with no concern for others. As for how this could happen, I have no idea. I don't even know if this is psychologically plossible, but since when has that been important for Hollywood Insanity?
TL;DR version: Mayuri's zanpakuto is a little butterfly baby thing, which means at least some part of him is mentally locked in little-kid mode. Comments?
- Since when has sealing an evil in a can ever stopped any Big Bad? At best, this is keeping base Aizen at bay until Ichigo gets his powers back. At worst, this is saving the problem for Ichigo's grandchildren to deal with.
- Unquestionably true.
- Well since no one outside Squad 0 has seen the Spirit King it may be as simple as a man OR woman can become the Spirit King and no one outside of Squad 0 knows when a new Spirit King has taken the throne or whether they're male or female. At the very least the gender of the new Spirit King isn't revealed when they take the throne so they're always referred to as "it"
- Aizen has seen the Spirit King, and it's implied that Urahara has, too.
- It's worth noting that we're working from a Japanese manga here, where gendered words are the exception rather than the rule. By the same token, Japanese has no "it" for referring to people, only for referring to things. In short, the "it" almost certainly refers to thingdom rather than gender neutrality, if only for linguistic reasons.
- Except the title is "Deicide," not "Decide." It's still potentially relevant to what you're saying, just not in the way you're thinking. The problem is, the god in question is almost without a doubt Aizen.
- This could also be an Evil Plan on Kisuke/Aizen's part to get Ichigo to continue the work they were doing while Aizen regroups.
- It could have been a You Have Failed Me moment on Urahara's part. He is, after all, The Chessmaster, so conceivably, even Aizen could have been a pawn, and his expression did look disappointed more than anything else.
- Which means he dies-which means he can attain his Shinigami powers all over again!
- Already guessed nineteen guesses up.
- And no, he lost his Hollow powers with his Shinigami powers. They were merged together, which is part of why Ichigo was so much stronger post-Dangai.
- Yeah, I have a feeling Aizen is just waiting for some idiot to stumble upon his cell and relese him.
- Taking in consideration how ironic things can be, the unsealer will probably be Hinamori Momo.
- Nooooooooooooooooooo! That would be the most annoying thing ever.
- It IS entirely possible that the Central 46 will decide to let him free so he could aid SS against the Vandenreich, and he will be an ally long enough for everybody else to trust him, then turn on them at a crucial moment.
- Eeeeeee-Nope
- Isshin? Frickin' EVERYBODY!
- He's also dead, now...
- Wind Release: Getsuga Rasentensho no Kizu? We're going to have to deal with that?
- Oh, please God, yes.
- Or just a slightly bigger sword with a purely cosmetic aura, and a permanently visible skull above his head.
- Alternatively, Senbonzakura was his initial Shikai (back when he first learned it), and Senbonzakura Kageyoshi is Senbonzakura taken up to eleven (but still falling within his Shikai ability).
- Nah. Senbonzakura Kageyoshi is a lot more than just Senbonzakura taken up to eleven. That's it's most basic form, but it can also do that Rain Of Blades attack, and that angel form that he used against Ichigo.
- This. Absolutely has to happen!
You may be asking when Aizen got Ichigo under Kyoka Suigetsu? Simple; he was always under Kyoka Suigetsu. During the Fake Karakura Town arc Aizen said that he had been keeping an eye on Ichigo due to his unique abilitys. Since nothing came of this we assumed it to be a lie. But what if it wasn't? Heres what I think happened. Aizen knew about Ichigo's abilities and that's why he set everything in motion to build Ichigo up. He planned on manipulating ichigo and to make it simpler he made sure Ichigo was always under Kyoka Suigetsu. What would have stopped him from walking up to Ichigo as a kid one day at school, and showing him the release silently and quickly, and leaving. Ichigo would simply stare at it and there would be nothing anyone could do about it. From that point onward Aizen simply allowed Ichigo to see what was really going on so it would give him the illusion that he wasn't under an illusion. The result Aizen tricks everyone into throwing Ichigo at him thinking it's the key to victory. Aizen then gets a free opportunity to do whatever he wants while everyone else sits there believing Ichigo is winning.
- His activation phrase is "Who the Hell Do You Think I Am?!"
- Thinking on this, I got the image in my head of Starrk as a shinigami with Lilynette as his Zanpakuto.
- This. I was half expecting for Grimmjow to show up in a Big Damn Heroes during the final battle, wearing black Shinigami robes and without that jawbone thing stuck to his face.
- This may be so, though I doubt it. Isshin taught Ichigo the move, sort of, and Zangetsu was the one who broke the news. The Hogyoku would have had to overwrite reality for at least two people, and to me it seemed that the Hogyoku only effects people by proximity.
- Not mutually exclusive.
- It gave ichigo his powers back, and he had a run-in with his predecessor, so no.
- One of the recommended fics gives something similar for his shikai (when he finally learns its name): it renders Kenpachi invulnerable to everthing except straight physical damage (cutting, piercing, crushing, etc).
- I wonder how many scars and injuries Kenpachi has.
- Close but if Kenpachi were a former U.S. president he'ed be Teddy Roosevelt a man so badass that the countries alien invasion plan is quite likely clone teddy roosevelt.
- Best. Explanation. Ever.
- I always thought Nanao's resemblance to Lisa was a case of imitation, aided by having the same hair color and the need for glasses. As for Uryu, if you look closely at the anime, his skin is a different color (less pink, more beige).
- The reason a million souls is needed is because it takes that much spiritual energy to awaken/revive the God that Aizen believed was missing, thus throwing Aizen's plans into total disarray which could lead to...
- Jossed.
- Kenpachi: It's been quite a while... Such a feeling... Like the reiatsu itself is sharpening my blade.
This is a hint about his zanpakuto's power. Whenever Kenpachi faces an opponent stronger than himself, his own reiatsu increases to match his opponent's. This explains why he was unable to defeat Ichigo (who, at the time, was too weak to trigger Kenpachi's power), yet managed to beat both Nnoitra and Yammy. It also fits his personality, as it allows him to fight every opponent equally.
- A couple of lines in chapter 430 really got me thinking; "You'd better stop thinking of those wierd fantasies concering your brother. He's a normal guy, you know? He's not some anime character, so..." "I'm not thinking about anything like that!" Also, if this is true, then the first post-timeskip chapter suddenly took a turn for the creepier. Yuzu showing off her school uniform to Ichigo, acting like a Tsundere when he doesn't compliment her... That said, would even trollmeister Kubo really do this?
- Sure, IIRC, it's not as taboo in Japan as it is in the west. Over here, it's a felony, over there... meh.
- Yeah, I realize now that I probably made it sound worse than it is. In retrospect, I used a very poor choice of words.
- Sure, IIRC, it's not as taboo in Japan as it is in the west. Over here, it's a felony, over there... meh.
- Why? Simple, same reason he killed Gin. Too complicated, with guaranteed audience backlash no matter what the pairings are. Good grief, Ichigo and Orihime
arewere officially the picture for Oblivious to Love, it has been over 400 chapters since the triangle was started, and there is still no resolution. Nor will there be, until Kubo ends the series, if even then. He's been rather ambiguous about it in interviews, to boot. After all, where would he be if the Ichi Ruki, Ichi Hime, or worse, shippers of BOTH were suddenly Jossed? He's fall further than number 5.- Or: Kubo gets pissed off and takes it out on the shippers by canonizing Ruki Hime instead.
- Seriously. He can't protect his friends anymore, he calls the number on the card this guy has left him... and they've been expecting him to call. Hopefully I'm not the only one whose BAD-IDEA-YOU-MORON sense was tingling. They're all hiding things from each other, he's run off on his own and is desperate to help... yeah, this won't end well.
- Remember that Aizen wanted to "eat" Ichigo to further his own evolution. That may be why Aizen was making Ichigo stronger and stronger.
- Yes, it's possible his plan (which he apparently came up with on the spot) was:
- It's much more likely he was just showing off how unbeatable he is.
- I always presumed that Bankai were either straight upgrades in power(Renji, Ichigo) or something that is way too specific to unleash at random (Sui-Feng, Ikkaku, Tosen)heck, just look at Tosen's you cannot unleash that in a group fight without causing as many problems for your allies as you do your foes.
- Alternatively they don't need to use Bankai as much because they understand their powers/themselves well enough not to resort to the Super Mode unless necessary. That sort of decision comes down to the personalities of the users; Ukitake and Kyoraku in particular have no interest in fighting unless they must, let alone with any degree of force, Yamamoto rarely gets directly involved in the canon timeline (though its unlikely someone with that kind of fire-power and history was always a bystander). What's more when we're talking about the older ones, their holding back can be justified by the nature of said Modes. Yamamoto's is very clearly one of mass destruction, and Kyoraku's is suggested to cause massive damage of a different order. They've had to learn to be patient and hold back, because the alternatives are too dangerous. In Ukitake's case, his health also makes him a potential liability to his allies, and pushing himself too far (i.e Bankai) would only make things worse. Unohana's shikai alone seems to handle multiple casualties at once, so perhaps again no need for her bankai has yet arisen.
- They're also all from a (presumably) very different time. The majority of Soul Reapers we see are young ones, growing up and fighting when the gotei 13 appears to be pretty established. If Yamamoto founded the Academy to train Soul Reapers 2000 years ago, it's not unreasonable to think that the Gotei 13 as a formal organisation is itself not much older than that; the training from one provided skilled officers for the other. The differences in approach and lack of Super Mode-ing could have as much to to with their shared history as anything else. Times change, and they're not the kids who throw around 'power', 'honour' and 'bankai!' everywhere on the occasions when they do turn up. Not that age necessarily works to their advantage - just look at Yamamoto's notion of 'justice' and Ukitake's of 'honour'.
Then after a timeskip Yamamoto dies because a group of Vasto Lordes comes. Ichigo gets his powers back, this time syncing with Zangetsu again. The not yet shown Spirit King appears with the rest of the major Soul Society and living world characters and storms Hueco Mundo. They find out that the new king of Hueco Mundo is Keigo. He does what Aizen did, and ends up killed. Then the king reveals himself as a fake. The real one is unaware of anything that's happened in the story yet. The fake runs off while everyone is dumbstruck. The Gotei 13, which loses half its lieutenants and a captain or two in the Hueco Mundo raid, goes back to recover and think of a plan. They also bring back Ichigo, who is going through Heroic BSoD from the shock of killing Keigo.
The real Spirit King learns of everything and joins the protagonist group. He tells Ichigo that he can stay out of the situation if he wants. Ichigo gets his spirit back and says he'll go with Soul Society. The Spirit King starts devising a plan. The protagonists chase after the imposter, who ran away to the dimsension where zanpakuto reside when not called on. The real king goes Chessmaster on the fake, resulting in the death of the fake. Soul Society regains order and Ichigo goes back to his friends. The story ends at this point.
- Then what did Hitsugaya veiw himeself as? Same for Gin, Renji, Rangiku and Hisagi? And why did that parkeet kid show up in Soul Socity looking exactly the same as he was shown when he "died"? Does it not affect children under a certain age? Does this mean those listed above looked like that when they died because were children?
- Their mental images of themselves at the time they entered Soul Society were, as is the norm, identical to their physical appearance (at the time of their death). And until Kubo explains how exactly stuff like growing/aging, eating, getting sick and procreation works for souls and Soul Reapers we'll simply have to theorize.
- Jossed. She was a Quincy, the reason Ichigo got Fullbringer powers is because she was attacked by a Hollow.
- Think about it, Yammy was curb stomped by Byakuya and Kenpachi when they had more trouble with #7 and 5 respectively. Solution to this that is actually pretty funny: Aizen trolled Yammy. He merely told him that he was really the strongest so that he can watch with glee as Yammy gets his ass kicked even after he transformed. That's also why his power is to get stronger as he gets angrier. What's another way of getting angry? by crying like a little baby who can't have his way. Yammy is just comic relief for the espada.
- Still doesn't explain why Nel would say there are no double digit Espada.
- That's only if you use a Base Ten system. In a Base Eleven or greater, the symbol for 'ten' WOULD be single digit. Although, Espada tattoos are arabic numbers rather than the kanji of the Gotei 13 numbers.
- Still doesn't explain why Nel would say there are no double digit Espada.
- Espada numbers only measure spirit power. Yammy going from 10 to 0 only means he's got more physical strength after his release.
- It'll probably be the coin he wears around his neck. I mean, after all, he said that coin is "maybe even more important than my life," and yet Kubo hasn't mentioned the coin again in the 300 or so chapters from then till now.
There's also the inherent risks of taking in more powers than he already had before training for the FGT. The way I see it, Ichigo's form with the TZ chain around his arm, is the release of all the limits on all his powers and consolidating them into one spiritual form. Not Reaper, not Hollow, not Visored nor Arrancar, perhaps not even Transcendental, but the very essence of the attack he's used all this time: Getsuga. The only remnant of his former powers is his zanpakuto, and even then, up until he becomes The Getsuga, Ichigo is only using the sword like a sword; as if, in some way, all that we see about Ichigo at that point, from his hair to his glove and chain-arm-sword, his very being is simply the sealed form of his new Getsuga powers. Once that power is amplified through the release, it is unleashed as an attack, taking with it the entirety of its essence, like formerly frozen water now leaving a glass, rendering our hero powerless.
As a seperate state from his normal power set-up and the fact that Hichigo was pretty much subsumed by Tensa Zangetsu for the training, there still seems to be more unfinished business with Hichigo, especially concerning the way he manifests in the real world compared to the inner world. It is for this reason that I predict Hichigo's return along with Ichigo's Reaper powers, and since Fullbring powers are Hollow-derived, they'll go straight to Hichigo, necessitating another inner world battle, but one in which, hopefully, Ichigo fights alongside Tensa Zangetsu against Hollow Ichigo. Maybe we can finally figure out the mechanics behind a Visored Resurreccion. For instance, do you have to release your Zanpakuto at all before triggering it (after putting on your mask of course). Given that an Arrancar Zanpakuto just contains the nucleus of their Hollow powers, what does that mean for Visored Zanpakuto, which already have a consciousness connected but distinct to the hollow self of the wielder? Protection is an instinct Ichigo and both Zangetsus have in common, while Hichigo's instinct is to dominate and conquer. Therefore, since Zanpakuto are reflections of their owners, or indeed, what they could become, Inner Hollows are what they'd never want themselves to be, hence the inherent conflict. Accessing what you don't want yourself to be but finding some way to temper it into at least something you can use for your own is the impression I get from Visored powers. The deeper you go into that power, the more profound and impactful the lessons become.
This leads to my next point. Based on Tousen, a Visored Resurreccion requires a name. Gaining a mask seems to require acknowledging that the Inner Hollow is there, finding out that it has a name that it tries to hide, likely out of fear of being hurt (that whole (hehe!) hollows lose their hearts, their identities, their names thing), that has got to shake your view (and your Zanpakuto's) of the situation. Also, given the depths of Ichigo's power, I'd say he has more than just a Visored Resurreccion, I'd say he takes it up to at least Segunda Etapa. Every Visored developed a mindless Hollow state very similar to the time when Ichigo was doing his mask training and his body transformed during the inner battle. However, Ichigo then evolves a much different form, even worse and not restrained by an inner conflict causing his power to fluctuate as in training. The despair caused by not being able to fulfill his instinct to protect to the point of lethal injury allowed Hollow Ichigo's instinct to take control deeper than it ever had before that point, creating another link on the power chain, something that's been referenced somewhat on here before, but I don't think has been addressed so specifically. I believe it would look something like this, with Reaper powers seguing into Hollow powers:
Sealed > Shikai > Bankai > Masked Form > Resurreccion > Segunda Etapa
That's it so far. At least, those are some of my projections and theories. Toodles!
Extra: As an example for the hollows losing their name thing, Sora Inoue became known as Acidwire.
- Not to nitpick, but Shinkai would be Death Release, and Kamikai would be God Release. Or something along those lines. I actually don't know how it would be congugated, but I do know kami is the word for deity, and shin comes from (or is) the word for death.
- Nel's child form bears more than a passing resemblance to Koiwai Yotsuba (green hair, Genki Girl...). Whch would make Nel's adult form... adult!Yotsuba. Great, the trolls were right.
- Szayelaporro could be Batman Begins!Scarecrow. They're both somewhat Bishounen (YMMV), have Stoic Spectacles with a side of Four Eyes, Zero Soul, and do it For Science!.
- Grimmjow is the hollow form of Kamina. Think about it: They're both complete badasses, both have brilliant blue hair, and if you squint, it sorta looks like they have the same style. They both have tattoos, they both have Walking Shirtless Scene, they're both hot-headed, and they both take full advantage of the screentime they have to basically show off how manly and awesome they are.
- Starrk is the Hollow form of Max Payne. A lifetime of using Valkyr painkillers is what gave him his abnormally high reiatsu (either that, or he ate all the people he killed). He is the Espada of loneliness because everyone around him dies, wether he wants them to or not. Lilynette could be a representation of his unnamed daughter. Also, Starrk's Resurrección has him go Guns Akimbo, which Max does as well.
- Already mentioned on the shikai page.
- Also, the chick with the dollhouse shows that 1) they don't have to take the form of a sword and 2) there is no restriction to the type of power it can have.
- Yammy is Aizen's rage and an expression of brute force; for most of his life, Aizen's crushed that down and used his intellect instead of his overwhelming power, so Yammy seemed like the weakest and most ignored of the Espada. But at the end of his campaign, Aizen gave up on subtle plans for overwhelming power and when THAT didn't work, descended into barely coherent rage, which in turn shows Yammy grow explosively. Just as Aizen's anger and brute-force tactics were ultimately much less effective than his intelligence, Yammy was defeated easily by Byakuya and Kenpachi despite his power.
- Aaroniero was Aizen's greedy and manipulative nature made manifest; Aaroniero's desire for power and endless evolution is a mirror of Aizen's own agenda, and playing The Good Captain to manipulate others is a trick right out of Aizen's book.
- Szayel was Aizen's Mad Scientist tendencies manifested, but also his cowardly, slimy side. Szayel shared Aizen's tendency to use science to try and render himself perfect and experimenting on others mostly because he could, but Szayel also relied a lot on underhanded tactics and sacrificing others to keep himself in the game, a trait Aizen shared but did not rely on to the same degree. Being an incomplete fragment of Aizen's intelligence was the reason Szayel was always a Smug Snake while Aizen gradually devolved into one.
- Zommari was the part of Aizen prone to becoming Drunk with Power, initially purged to try and keep Aizen from becoming Drunk on the Dark Side before his master-stroke and to avoid letting his victories go to his head. Aizen did a good job at this for a little while, but ultimately he wasn't able to resist the intoxication of the Hogyoku's power and wound up becoming drunk on his own power anyway.
- Grimmjow is Aizen's destructive and predatory side made flesh; the part of Aizen that reveled in using his power to devastate anything around him. Aizen again manages to repress this for a while, but his obvious glee as he takes on the Gotei 13 by himself makes it hard to hide.
- Nnoitra is the personification of Aizen's self-loathing and despair. Aizen knew on some level he was a monster and couldn't help but hate himself on some level as his more vile deeds kept piling up. Eventually, this part of Aizen that knew he would never really be anything but a monster was purged and formed Nnoitra, who sought oblivion.
- Ulquiorra was Aizen's nihilism and Evil Cannot Comprehend Good tendencies. Aizen saw himself as an Übermensch, and the thought patterns of lesser shinigami were ultimately alien to him. Given what Ichigo thinks of Aizen's deeds and desires, one could assume that he chose to cross the Moral Event Horizon so many times on a basis no more complex than "why not?"
- Harribel was the last vestige of Aizen's inner goodness and nobility that he used to craft the "Captain Aizen" persona. She held the morals Aizen gave lip service to but had never really believed in and had genuine concern for her followers while Aizen couldn't care less. Aizen judged this aspect of his nature weak and useless despite abundant evidence to the contrary and pointlessly sacrificed it with his equally pointless murder of Harribel.
- Barragan was Aizen's arrogance and god complex, but also a manifestation of Aizen's fears of his own mortality. Aizen pretended to have no fear, but one of the reasons he was so elated when he merged with the Hogyoku was that he no longer needed to be afraid to die; when it seemed like he might be killed even with all that power, Aizen completely lost his composure in fear and impotent rage. Barragan's immense power derives from Aizen's immense arrogance and plans of godhood being such an integral part of his being, and for his fear of death being his strongest, perhaps his only fear.
- Starrk/Lilinette was the manifestation of Aizen's loneliness and resentment of his own power, the side that Ichigo claimed to see but Aizen never really demonstrated. Starrk was incredibly powerful but not evil because, like Harribel, he was manifested from an ignored element of Aizen's psyche unrelated to his nature. If Aizen at his core wanted to be normal, Starrk carried that to its extreme; Starrk wanted to be weak and surrounded by friends and had nothing but resentment and apathy for his immense power. Since this wish to be normal was even stronger than Aizen's desire to be god, Starrk was more powerful than even Barragan.
- The only one to get a confirmation by Word of God. The primary difference between Starrk and Aizen was that Starrk lacked Aizen's ambition.
- Besides the fact that we saw some of the espada's backstories, I absolutely must call Fridge Brilliance on this particular topic.
- I second that motion. This kind of makes the Deicide parts easier to swallow for me.
Just like Vizard have both, so do Arrancar. Their inner hollow is a representation of their hollow abilities, similar to Zanpakuto are a representation of a shinigami's inner abilities. A Zanpakuto spirit is the result of Shinigamification and is a side of them they don't like like with Ichigo and his inner hollow. I believe that Zanpakuto spirits are a manifestation of ones inner strength used with ration and thought while an inner hollow is a representation of ones inner strength used with pure animalistic instinct. I believe that all Vizard and Arrancar have the potential to obtain Shikai, Bankai, Ressurection, and Segunda Etapa.
I believe Teppenkai(Apex Release, my Fan Nickname for the Final Getsuga Tensho thing.) can be divided into two parts; the form and weapon, for the Hollow and Zanpakuto side respectively. For Ichigo, this was Getsuga, for his hollow side and Mugetsu, for his Zanpakuto side.
P.S: Like my Fan Nickname?
- Kubo said the last arc will be much longer than the Arrancar arc. He also said there will be a shorter arc before that. That said, it's not out of the question that the 1000 Year blood war will involve a three way battle and Enemy Mine in some form.
- Kubo apparently loves adding new characters, and we already have a bunch - the Fullbring...people - in the Living World. Perhaps his addition to the Soul Society side will expand on how the afterlife works in other countries. A clash between the Gotei 13 with any opposite numbers could be interesting, although given the sheer number of potential ones it could get tricky.
- Let us expand on this, there just isn't a second group of Gotei 13..there are a whole lot of them each themed on a different religion's afterlife.
- Kubo apparently loves adding new characters, and we already have a bunch - the Fullbring...people - in the Living World. Perhaps his addition to the Soul Society side will expand on how the afterlife works in other countries. A clash between the Gotei 13 with any opposite numbers could be interesting, although given the sheer number of potential ones it could get tricky.
- Aside from the fact plenty of the massive cast have no evidence backing up their ranks (Nanao Ise, Kiyone and Sentarou?), Sui-Feng doesn't seem the type to keep genuinely incompotent people around, much less as her lieutenant. It'd be ineffective and especially detrimental to what's meant to be the Stealth Force. Would she let money or influence jeopardise that? Omaeda also hung around to try and protect his captain against Barragan, and under those circumstances his efforts - though futile - counted for something. Sui-Feng seemed close to actually admitting he'd helped her (when he stops her from crashing into a building) at one point.
- While it's true he likes his rich status symbols, he's proven that when the chips are down he's actually somewhat competent.
- Lieutenants are chosen by their captains, seemingly without any oversight or prerequisites. Many of the lieutenants seem to be almost opposites of their captains. Maybe it is about getting an alternate viewpoint, maybe it is just tradition.
- Aside from the fact plenty of the massive cast have no evidence backing up their ranks (Nanao Ise, Kiyone and Sentarou?), Sui-Feng doesn't seem the type to keep genuinely incompotent people around, much less as her lieutenant. It'd be ineffective and especially detrimental to what's meant to be the Stealth Force. Would she let money or influence jeopardise that? Omaeda also hung around to try and protect his captain against Barragan, and under those circumstances his efforts - though futile - counted for something. Sui-Feng seemed close to actually admitting he'd helped her (when he stops her from crashing into a building) at one point.
- That goes without saying.
So, perhaps, the older captains don't really need to release to access more of their power. Think of their power as being structured in layers. Shikai lets you access a deeper layer of your power, while Bankai lets you reach further still. It's not that Shikai or Bankai make you more powerful - you can just access more of your energy. The older, more experienced captains have learned to access more and more of their energy even if their Zanpakuto is in the sealed state.
Thus, Byakuya, Hitsugaya, Ichigo and so on still need to release their bankai to fight on par with, say, an Espada. Even if they are powerful and ostensibly captain-level, they still need to use their releases to fight at full power. On the other hand, someone like Shunsui or Yamamoto don't need to release - or maybe they only need to release their Shikai - to fight on par with them. This could also explain why Zaraki is a captain despite lacking the supposedly crushing boost of Bankai - perhaps, he simply learned how to access the entirety of his power.
- Ooh, I like. Can we move this to the Grand Unifying Hollow Form WMG further up the page?
- Done and done.
Now bear with me here, because this probably won't make much sense. Considering Aizen's personality, he feels like the world should revolve around him- but his powers at that point are completely insubstantial compared to this view. He wishes that he were more powerful, since he can't bear to live in a world where his existence is meaningless. The Hogyouku grants his wish, and makes him so overpowered that the world is there for the taking.
Because of this however, the major downside is that his powers isolate him from the people around him and leave him alone and pretty much friendless. This loneliness causes him to start hating the shinigami and wish he was normal instead, which triggers his start of darkness, but he's outside the range of the original Hogyouku so it can't grant his wish at this point. It isn't until he creates his own that he's stripped of his powers and his wish is granted. (sorry that doesn't make much sense)
- Well he did make a Hougyoku before Urahara did. He stole Urahara's to perfect his own.
- We will see Ichigo master Kido to a level comparable of 90+ prayers/spells without incantation. Prolly' spontaneously or in the same revelation style we've seen other powers appear.
- There will be a fight between Ichigo and Yamamoto.
- Aizen's bankai is mass-control (puppeteering) or alter reality. He's already out, Central 46 don't even know they've released him somewhere after the sentencing, or even before.
- Jossed - Aizen lost his Zanpakuto before we ever saw its bankai.
- Is it, really? Aizen fused with his zanpakuto, just like Ichigo. This not taking into account Aizen's perfect hypnosis might be his bankai.
- Jossed - Aizen lost his Zanpakuto before we ever saw its bankai.
- Ichigo's gonna become the Spirit King. After beating the shit out of him in an epic end game battle. I don't think it's probably, but it'd be fun if Gotei 13 + Urahara + Vizored + Aizen teamed up against The Spirit King + The Court Guards.
- Ichigo's powers aren't gone forever. He will remember that the Tensa Zangetsu is part of him and that reiatsu is all around him (think Neo/the Matrix) and Mugetsu will be an attack he can use frequently.
- It would be the final arc in the manga. Ichigo only enters the Tournament to make sure that no bad guys win, but he wins and the manga ends with him being the new soul king
- This idea is more flexible in whether it's the final arc or not. If it's the final arc, Ichigo wins and brings back his mother (or Orihime's bro and for something really crazy Kaien) But if there is going to be more arcs after it, a background character who was introduced in the arc should win to avoid fan wank of introducing a new main character.
- Crazy I know (mainly the first idea)
- This idea is more flexible in whether it's the final arc or not. If it's the final arc, Ichigo wins and brings back his mother (or Orihime's bro and for something really crazy Kaien) But if there is going to be more arcs after it, a background character who was introduced in the arc should win to avoid fan wank of introducing a new main character.
There are a number of evidences that supports this theory
- In chapter 446 Tsukishima said to Ichigo:'Your powe right now...I like it.It's become so much closer to the heights your previous powers reached'. How does he know anything about Ichigo's powers,when they never even fought\ before?
- When Chad and Orihime got cut it seemed like nobody else noticed it. Smells like mind controll.
- The way Orihime and Chand got cut...well,they didn't got cut at all. We saw in chapter 429 that he can easily slice people in half if he wants,but what happend to Orihime and Chad then? It was an illusion Tsukishima/Aizen created when he released his bankai to confuse them.
- yeah, no.
- That would mean Ginjo really does have an enemy out there since Tsukishima had to insert himself as this enemy. That would make a great ally for Ichigo.
Uryu will end up being the keystone in taking down Tsukishima. Since the ability has to be activated, he probably did not see Orihime heading to the hospital and healing up Uryu's wounds as quickly as she did and as such didn't activate the "memories" before this.
Tsukishima is the "Eldrondo" of Bleach. He's inserting himself into the past of everyone around Ichigo as the very popular, good looking and key person in defeating every threat them came across. Heck, looking at Tsukishima's behavior he'd be the Ishida/Renji/GJ of his introduction arc if he were a good guy. Who did he try to kill off first in order to make room for himself? Coincidentally, the person who seems not to have been affected by Tsukishima's powers? This is the closest way to explore the concept without involving reality warping or meta-humor.
- Sora never tore off his mask. The fact that part of his face was revealed was because Ichigo cut that part of his mask off. In other words, Sora didn't do it himself, so he was still a hollow. On top of that, he was already purified and sent to Soul Society, so this won't happen.
- Yeah, no.
- The deal was that every night at the exact same time a demon, or Hollow will sneak in un aware to the soul reaper already living there, and drop some of his blood into oddler Ichigo's mouth. the plan was to turn Ichigo into the strongest hollow, so he wouldn't become the strongest Shinigami, but that plan was torn asunder when Rukia stumbled into the town to protect Ichigo.
- Then there is the matter of Karin's abilities, Over all evilness to a detained level, and can see ghosts. The hollow gave her some blood too, unbeknownst to Ichigo's mom.
- Over thinking it you two are. You can justify both's abilities from their dad alone. Considering that Ichigo's dad and Urahara both knew about Arrancar far in advance of anyone else that Ichigo's mom may have been an Arrancar who was "good" in the way Nell was.
- All in good fun as a way to connect "Bleach" to "Supernatural"
- Seemingly Jossed in 462, not only is he limited to implanting memories, there are limits as to how much he can alter someones past.
- Jossed on Grimmjow. He returns in the Thousand Year Blood War arc as one of Kisuke's special recruits, still an Arrancar, and confirming what was initially only shown in an omake: he didn't die after Nnoitra attacked him, he was just injured and eventually recovered.
- Urahara will cross the Moral Event Horizon.
- The leader of the Soul Society is either Yamamato (just cuz) or the true Big Bad of the series.
- Jossed. It's actually the Spirit King.
- The true Big Bad is a Chessmaster and is secretly pulling off an Evil Plan.
- Jossed. We already had that with Aizen.
- Don Kanonji was a retired shinigami, just like Isshin.
- Isshin was definitely an ex-captain.
- Tite Kubo will create another series in the future that takes place in the same universe as Bleach (and the main character of the former will be an Ichigo Expy).
- Ginjo will get his motives revealed in a last-second flashback before the end of the fight.
- Tsukishima won't "fight" Byakuya, but he'll certainly try to Mind Rape him with a bookmark.
- Jossed. Tsukushima put up a decent fight with Byakuya, and didn't attempt to alter his memories at all.
- No, he did. Tsukishima made himself into Byakuya's past teacher and close friend. Except it didn't change the fact that Byakuya still percieved him as an enemy.
- Jossed. Tsukushima put up a decent fight with Byakuya, and didn't attempt to alter his memories at all.
- Shishigawara won't get killed by Ikkaku.
- Kutsuzawa will revive himself with his Time Master ability.
- Jossed. Zaraki cut him in half far too quickly for that to have occurred.
- Riruka won't get killed by Rukia, but she won't pull a Heel–Face Turn during the fight.
- Yukio will get defeated once his full name is revealed.
- He will, no, must encounter Kyoraku.
- Jackie will give Renji a run for his money (ala Yylfordt), but she'll ultimately lose.
- Jossed. She was soundly defeated without any difficulties from Abarai.
- Yukio's power is kind of obvious.
- Riruka's is playing with dolls.
- Kutsuzawa's is basically "finish x before the timer runs out not to die." Sounds like a ridiculous number of video games to me.
- Jackie's is a game of a more figurative nature.
- Shishigawara's power is basically a slot machine he can wear.
- Tsukishima: mind games? Or an RPG.
- Ginjo is harder to categorize: barring RPG (his training with Ichigo), the only other one that really seems to fit would be Hack'n Slash.
- Both Ginjo and Ichigo look like characters from fighting games in their fullbring forms.
- There are two kinds of Shinigami-Hollow hybrid, Vizards and Arrancar. It stands to reason that there might be two kinds of hollow-human(Fullbringers and something else) and shinigami-human(Substitute Shinigami and something else).
- One of the reasons why Ichigo is so powerful is because he has all three parts: Human, Shinigami AND Hollow powers. He defeated Aizen beacuse Aizen was only Hollow and Shinigami, and lacked the 'human' component.
- Rukia will have a new ice-type attack.
- Renji will have a new way to use his Bankai, but no Kido-based powers.
- Byakuya has a new move, but he won't use it against Tsukishima.
- Hitsugaya will use a technique never shown before even though he always had it (Ryusenka against Shawlong; Sennen Hyōrō against Luppi; Hyōten Hyakkasō against Harribel; Hyōryū Senbi against Aizen).
- Currently the Captains have been fully healed and are fighting the reigai along with the Vice Captains. Byakuya and Mayuri have been defeated by regiais without even doing anything yet. After the reigais defeat the Gotei 13 (with the reigai of Yumichika defeating one of the captains with his incomplete shikai), and after Nozomi forces Ouka to commit suicide, the reigais immediately die and disintegrate. Leaving massive rage from fans for the cop-out and how overall terrible the arc was.
- Well to be fair it did end in a cop-out.
- Possible, but it would be nice (if unlikely) to think that whatever his 'bosses' said, Yamamoto ordered the restoration of Ichigo's powers at least in part because he wanted to do the 'right' thing rather than the 'lawful' one. Other than that, he seems too pragmatic to dismiss someone like Ichigo - powerful, a helpful anomaly - entirely. Not when Aizen is highly unlikely to be out of the way, and Yamamoto's wise enough to know this. He may not want Ichigo involved, but he and the Central 46 will need him.
- It seemed Ukitake intended to use him, but that was long before he lost his powers.
- Possible, but it would be nice (if unlikely) to think that whatever his 'bosses' said, Yamamoto ordered the restoration of Ichigo's powers at least in part because he wanted to do the 'right' thing rather than the 'lawful' one. Other than that, he seems too pragmatic to dismiss someone like Ichigo - powerful, a helpful anomaly - entirely. Not when Aizen is highly unlikely to be out of the way, and Yamamoto's wise enough to know this. He may not want Ichigo involved, but he and the Central 46 will need him.
- It seems to be going this way. From the looks of it Kenpachi cut his opponent in half and Renji has apparently been non-stop training for the entire Time Skip.
- Nope. Most of the Fullbringers survive, with Giriko, Tsukishima, and Ginjo being the only ones who were killed off.
- Then that would make him a captain, I doubt they'd let a treacherous deputy become a fellow member.
- The Klingon Promotion only applies if there are at least 200 witnesses from the killed captain's squad witnessing the battle.
- Jossed. The Ex-Captain was Isshin.
- The Klingon Promotion only applies if there are at least 200 witnesses from the killed captain's squad witnessing the battle.
- Tsukishima and Byakuya were fighting in the game? I don't think so. Besidesm he didn't read Senbonzakura's memories, he simply made it so that he fought against it before.
- "War" is in the arc's title, so duh...
- This seems to be very likely and at least partially confirmed.
- Hisagi: His Bankai takes the form of two huge scythes connected by a chain, á la Ikkaku's Bankai. It's special ability will be associated with using Razor Wind.
- Matsumoto: A giant cat made of ash that can scatter and reform on will and can use her trademark Death of a Thousand Cuts on a much larger scale.
- Kira: Gravity manipulation with Area of Effect.
- Rukia: Ice attacks up to eleven á la Hitsugaya. Like Ichigo, her clothes will change when she goes Bankai, most likely turning into something white.
- Rose: A weaponized musical instrument with powerful and varied Area of Effect attacks ranging from hypnosis by sound to killing anyone in range.
- Kyoraku: His Shikai makes games into reality, his Bankai will turn reality into a game. How the hell that works in practice is anyone's guess.
- Yamamoto: What's his release phrase again? "All things in the universe turn to ashes, Ryuujin Jakka!" Yeah, his Bankai will do just that, seeing what his Shikai does.
- Kenpachi: Ends the series the instant he says "Bankai".
This also explains why he can't release his zanpakutou: Because he doesn't actually have one, he just has a sword.
But their nature will be that of Fullbring-Shinigami hybrids. They would not be hybrids in the way Ichigo and Ginjou are, but they would be hybrids like Inoue, with a reiatsu that is similar to the Vizards. We know that Inoue's Rikka fairies are sentient, similar to the Bount Dolls, so Manga!Bounts could be made as a result of Fullbringers creating figures, like dolls, and then using Fullbring, channel their soul into the doll, which then comes to life.
The concept is based off of something I heard about why there are no graven images of God: if you carve the image of a god, you are able to use that god's power. In other words, a Manga!Bount's carved image would draw on the power of the Manga!Bount's "god", or Zanpakuto spirit. Such a creation would make a Fullbring a Shinigami-Fullbring hybrid, possessing normal Fullbring abilities, as well as the added abiliites of a Shinigami through the Doll.
...Or at least one half of who was originally the Soul King. For a long time, he resided in the Royal Realm, but the burden of whatever crimes he committed in the past that earned Aizen's hatred became too much for him. Eventually, he decided to split his soul in two: one is the Kurosaki Isshin we know, who possesses Shinigami powers, while the other half was his Hollow powers. The 'Other Isshin' was either imprisoned in the Royal Realm, or Isshin then fled the Royal Realm, leaving the 'Other Isshin' in the Royal Realm, and being the 'thing' and 'it' that Urahara and Aizen know as the Soul King.
This WMG was inspired by two things: 1) Stark and Lilynette originally being one soul, and the Kami/Piccolo Daimao dynamic.
- I would agree with this. However, I think that the reason Aizen hates The Soul King (Isshin in this situation) is that he abandonded his power for love. Ichigo's Mom (Why do I forget her name!) was in his mind the most wonderful woman in the world, so he was williing to abandon the throne and is stuck in the mortal world. Maybe it's even an Izanami/Izanagi situation and she is her reincarnation.
- Which means that if that happens Uryuu will be the equivalent to Byakuya from the Zanpakuto Unkonwn Tales/Beast Swords Arc.
- 1:It really is about the old Shinigami-Quincy conflict and it's only their fall that happend 200 years ago,the conflict really went on for a thousand years.
- 2:The more intresting alternative is that the title is about the war that starts NOW! Meaning that this last arc going to last ONE THOUSAND YEARS! It would certainly allow some intresting twists.
- The latest chapter does indeed say "The Bloody 1000 Years War Starts!!".
- Then we can now start theoryzing about how Kubo will achive this. In the end it's probably going to be some kind of epic ass-pullery and several craptons of plotkai, but because I'm an optimist I'll throw in my theory: the main human cast or even the entirety of Karakura town is going to be annihilated (because of obvious reasons), but the main characters powers will remain/evolve and continue their afterlife fighting off the Vanderreich in Soul Society. It would be pretty anticlimatic if the war really ended in five days.
- The latest chapter does indeed say "The Bloody 1000 Years War Starts!!".
- How about you provide evidence that states that Kubo has said he has big plans for Tatsuki first, instead of just making that assumption and trying to pass it off as truth? It's okay to make WMGs on who will end up with who, but don't bring shipping preferences into this, or try to fabricate evidence.
- Fabricate evidence? I'm sorry if I offended you. It's just a theory, althought now it seems silly that you've brought that to my attention.
- Since the Vandenreich are now heading to Soul Society, this could lead to them rescuing and recruiting Ishida.
- Emilou Apacci, Cyan Sung-Sun and Franceska Mila'Rose - they survived worse, but their opponent was a Quincy this time. Last time we saw dead Arrancars (when Ichigo's group showed up in Hueco Mundo with Urahara), it was made clear that Inoue couldn't revive them.
- Menoly Mallia and Loly Aivirrne - In a Redeption Equals Death fashion.
- Kirge Opie - Killed by Ichigo, Chad or Urahara, during their confrontation.
- Dondochakka Birstanne - Following the One Piece example of killing off the captured good guy, so Pesche and Nel could get more character development (like Yamamoto when Sasakibe died).
- Tier Harribel - If Dondochakka lives, she'll be the one to die, to give more development for her fraccion (if they survive).
- Dordoni Socacchio and Cirucci Sanderwicci - Will be confirmed dead in this arc, to remove all doubt.
- Gantenbainne Mosqueda - For refusing to join the Vandenreich.
- Yasutora Sado - Every time he loses a fight in the middle of a Rescue Arc, things go sour for Ichigo's gang. Here, I think Kubo will take it up a notch by actually killing Chad off, in order to make it clear that the Vandenreich are not playing around.
- Ikkaku Madarame - If Yumichika will reveal his power, it will take Ikkaku dying in order for that to happen. Likewise, Kenpachi wull find out that Ikkaku has bankai (or say that he already knew) before Ikkaku gets killed.
- Nanao Ise - Since Shunsui will use his bankai in this arc, I think it'll take something as big as Nanao dying in order for him to use it.
- Her or Ukitake, whose Incurable Cough of Death might get the better of him, fatally, in battle, or just give an opponent a lucky shot.
- If Opie fails in getting Ichigo to use Bankai, that unnamed Quincy (who baited the Hollows) will do so by killing someone close to Ichigo.
- Marechiyo Omaeda - Will die protecting his captain.
- One, two or three Visoreds.
- Genryusai Yamamoto - The Captain-Commander dying at the hands of the Vandenreich would force the Royal Guard to show up.
- Mayuri Kurotsuchi - Ishida will kill him, solidifying a Face–Heel Turn in the eyes of the Soul Society.
- How about all of the older captains (Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku and Ukitake) dying? It would be horrible, even for a secondary cast, but apparently Ichigo's experience in Soul Society has begun to change things there. Perhaps the Vandenriech wiping out the 'old guard' would cause the Gotei 13 to change even further, and faster? Progress...yay.
- We already know that Arrancar go to Hell. There's also the simple fact that we have way too many characters as it is. It seems that if Kubo really wanted to use them, he would have given them an out like Halibel.
- We had too many characters a long, long time ago. Since when has that stopped him?
- Somewhat wishful thinking, but it's still a bad idea. Kubo has enough to wrap up with the 'Reich, Squad Zero, the Soul King, etc. He would have left more of the Arrancar alive if he really wanted to reuse them (doubly true now that we know they're burning in Hell). They have no reason to save the heroes. They're a bunch of one-note sub-bosses with no real value. It's pandering of the worst kind.
- two of the Espada went to Hell, that doesn't mean being an Arrancar results in going to Hell. it means that those two Espada sinned as humans. there is no reason to think that the rest wouldn't have been purified and sent to Soul Society like every other hollow. they might not help or even show up at all but they are probably there unless they are shown to be somewhere else.
- And what happens if Ichigo finds out about this? He'd probably say 'screw this I'm outa here' and let the Vandereich do whatever they want.
- I fully expect this.
- And hey, since there wouldn't be a manga to overtake this time around, we wouldn't have to worry about filler episodes of the same quality as the Gotei 13 Invasion Army arc.
- As of March 2020, about four years out from the ending of the manga, consider this one finally confirmed.
- Maybe he has more of those sucker things like on his eye-patch to nerf him more.
- Due to being even stronger, crossing into Story-Breaker Power territory.
- Putting my money on Isshin being -as old as 1000 years- and him (, Ruyken Ishida and Yamamoto) being key reasons behind this war. Though I like your WMG. Time manipulation has already been introduced, so why not.
- Of course, there's always the Royal Guard.
- BAM! Chapter 514. Pretty much word for word.
I mean, think about it. Ruri'iro Kujaku can drain (or collect) spirit energy - it almost completely negates the Ransōtengai technique, which consists of collecting spirit for ones own use. They're two very similar powers.
Also - he's related to Uryuu, hence the fashion obsession.
- Why would he be working with the Shinigami at all, then?
- I sort of assume not all souls remember their human lives.
This will happen either via Orihime potentially healing her broken Hollow mask, or like with Nnoitra, stress in a heated moment will alow her to transform. I doubt she'll maintain the form permanently, for comedic value.
The battle in the Seireitei will go really really badly, and because of his subtle mind control thing that was never touched on again, she'll decide he's the only person who can save everyone and bring him back with her powers.
- Scary part? She may be RIGHT.
- F'ing beautiful. Even more so if it is planned by Aizen-sama himself.
- He'll probably claim that this was his plan all along.
- Jossed, It was just an art mistake, they're back in the next chapter.
I realize the Hell Verse wasn't really canon, but Hell in Bleach is. This makes me think the Ouken will indeed be presented by Hell upon Yamamoto's words. Possibly the contender for the key needs to fight them cosy guardians from the movie as well.
- Wrote a theory 'bout them being related under "History repeats itself" WMG a bit up. Remember 100 years ago? Akon is Mayuri's favorite, no doubt.
- Confirmed. Hichigo is still there, and this time his powers are manifested in a different form ( Ichigo's new zanpakuto).
Alternatively, only the Quincy, not the shinigami, are the fullbringers. The reason Ichigo is such a threat to them is that Zangetsu is not a normal zanpakuto anymore, but a fullbring, which they, at least at this point, don't know how to seal. The other shinigami will have to become capable of fullbring to defeat the Vandenreich.
- This could also explain why the older captains haven't used their Bankai until now. It would kill them!
- ...Sorta confirmed, Yamamoto hints that using his Bankai for too long will kill him...and pretty much everyone.
- Orihime will get Crazy diamond from Jojo's bizarre adveture?
- Possibly confirmed as of Chapter 520. Her real name is Yachiru Unohana, and she was the first Kenpachi! The implications of that title - and the fact that she's going to train the current Kenpachi in swordsmanship - explains a lot.
- To tag onto that, her first name, 'Retsu', literally means 'violent', and since Retsu is NOT her original name, this looks to be solidly confirmed.
- Chapter 523 seems to be laying this one on thick. Lapsing back into Battousai mode in preparation for her duel with Kenpachi, Unohana is downright terrifying to behold. The site of their battle, Muken, is the lowest floor of the Central Underground Prison and is normally restricted to those who aren't criminals. Kenpachi even remarks that he and Unohana would be criminals had it not been for their strength being deemed useful by the Gotei 13.
- Actually, Kubo has already stated he basically cut her out of the story because he wrote himself into a corner with her powers. If no wound is permanent, and even Death Is a Slap on the Wrist while Orihime is around, and it would completely destroy any kind of tension in the story. Hence the reason she was imprisoned in Heco Mundo forEVER, why she didn't show up for the fight against Aizen, and why now she's just kind of been unceremoniously stranded in Heco Mundo again.
Because where else would a child stronger than Hitsugaiya and half his age come from? One day, he fought this woman named Yachiru who was able to fight him to a draw. That's why she's the only person he ever admired. So naturally they decide to have sex, and Lt. Yachiru was born. Kenpachi never knew this, of course, and neither does Lt. Yachiru.
- Suddenly this possibility is a whole lot more likely with the reveal that Unohana was not only Yachiru, but the first Kenpachi.
- Confirmed, but for different reasons. Isshin stayed in human world to guard Masaki from her inner Hollow.
- Maybe in the Bleach verse, Humans Are Special because they all operate on the same basic principle that Quincies do: breaking down and manipulating reishi for their own use. Whether or not they're consciously aware of this is unknown and perhaps a push of sorts is necessary for certain humans to recognize said abilities, hence the very small number of spiritually-aware humans. Ichigo being the son of a former Captain probably helped, at least in the case of his Shinigami powers.
- Making him a heroic version of He Who Fights Monsters
Quincy were stated to be a group, therefor their powers are not hereditary.
- Maybe Ishida (perhaps even recognizing the above) taught it to him at some unspecified point? The two theories are not mutually exclusive.
- Jossed. Ichigo could use Blut Vene specifically because his mother Masaki was a Quincy, and it was noted she was extremely gifted in the use of the Blut branch of techniques. As for all his other abilities, all a result of eugenics basically. His Shinigami powers came from his father being the former captain of Squad 10, his Hollow Side was an experimental Hollow that attacked Masaki before he was born and was sealed away by Isshin, then passed to him when he was born and merged with his Shinigami powers, becoming his true Zanpakuto. Every time he was exposed to a similar power set, it drew out his own latent abilities and allowed them to fully manifest.
- Jossed, Ichigo got the Hollow from Masaki. Either since the moment he was born, or when she died.
- Alternatively: Kyoka Suigetsu was his bankai, and he's just that powerful as to keep it active all the time.
- Both have a very cynical and jaded outlook on war and how it must be strategized.
- Their right eye was shot off during a fight.
- Their closest mentor was killed in battle (though, in Kyōraku's case, not by his hands).
- Then they were given their positions, they were not too pleased about it.
- And in a meta example, both share the same seiyuu.
- In that case, who's EVA/Big Mama? Lisa? Nanao? Some currently unknown Lieutenant who predates those two? The idea of Shunsui forming The Patriots with the remainder of Gotei 13 and trying to create Outer Heaven in the Soul Society doesn't exactly seem far-fetched. Come to think of it, given what we know about Unohana, she does sound a bit like Para-Medic/Dr. Clark...
- Ulquiorra was never stated to be a Vasto Lorde class Hollow. The only two that were confirmed as Vasto Lordes were Starrk and Harribel. While it is an interesting theory, almost certainly not possible. Quincy's powers have been stated to totally destroy Hollows when used - in order for a Hollow to grow in power they have to consume other Hollows. If Ulquiorra had Quincy powers, he would have starved to death, being unable to consume Hollows he defeated.
- He's not stated to be a Vasto Lorde, but it seems pretty likely. Plus, his mask didn't have a mouth, which either means a), he was so powerful he didn't need to eat Hollows anymore, or b), he had some other way of eating them, like absorbing them through his skin. In the former case, it wouldn't matter if his Quincy powers destroyed them, and in the latter case, he'd possibly be able to take in the reishi in the atmosphere in the same manner to sustain himself.
- Actually, didn't Harribel mention that she chose not to eat other Hollows, and that the only reprecussion was that she was weaker? If Ulquiorra was born a Vasto Lorde, he could theoretically survive in the same manner. He'd be really hungry by the time that mask came off, but he could survive.
- That would explain his appearance, at least.
- So if that's true, then Ichigo only fought a WEAKENED Ulquiorra?
- Jossed outright. The databooks confirmed that Ulquiorra was a rare case of a natural born Vasto Lorde level Hollow born in Hueco Mundo, and was never human to begin with. Cases like his were a lot more common before the creation of the Soul King, but with the Soul King existing, Hollows being born as Vasto Lorde became a rarity, the few that did exist going underground when Aizen arrived in Hueco Mundo, wanting nothing to do with him. Ulquiorra was just one that didn't go underground and became loyal to Aizen.
- Early on it is said that a soul devoured by a Hollow becomes a Hollow. The grand fisher would have eaten her due to her having a high spiritual pressure which would logically make her one badass hollow. After devouring any hollow that dared to mess with her, she evolved into a Vasto Lorde and became the Harribel we know. So when Juhabach talks about Ichigo's mother, he's refering to Harribel.
- Retroactively Jossed. Harribel existed as a Vasto Lorde years ago, and years before that, she was a shark-adjuchas, and before that a Gillian, and before that, a shark-hollow, and so on and so forth. Grand Fisher existed as a hollow, and subsequently an Arrancar, years later... Not to mention we know what Masaki looked like. She and Harribel have absolutely nothing in common- face, skin tone, voice, hair color, name...
- Not a major one mind you...just it'll be brought up and repaired
- Banishing Urahara Kisuke in an obscene mockery of a "trial" during which no evidence or testimony was even listened to
- Sentencing Tessai for the crime of using forbidden techniques in an attempt to rescue a full third of the entire shinigami military leadership
- Causing Tosen's revenge quest by pardoning or refusing to punish the shinigami who murdered Tosen's friend
- Allowing Kurotsuchi Mayuri to inflict absolutely heinous war crimes and abominations on his own squad, not to mention members of a dying culture, on literally a daily basis
- Condoning "Project Spearhead," and then genociding the results after they soured to the idea
- Ordering the genocide of the Quincy, leading to a revenge-fueled invasion
- Started the whole Bount debacle, then ordered their extermination, ultimately leading to the Bounts' revenge-fueled invasion
- Made the whole "Spearhead" thing even more morally bankrupt than before, LEADING TO A REVENGE-FUELED INVASION.
... And the list goes on. Honestly, how does anyone tolerate such an unjust and destabilizing judicial body? Tite Kubo has practically turned Bleach into an Author Tract against the court system!
- While I agree with you on how stupid they have behaved at a number of points, keep in mind that we have no REAL idea exactly how long Aizen was in total control of the Central 46. Ignoring the Anime points, which are non-canon, let me break down your points:
- The banishing of Urahara and Tessai was exactly what Aizen had been counting on when he pinned the crimes on them. I'd be surprised if Aizen HADN'T been manipulating them into that decision. They wouldn't even need to be dead. With his Zanpakuto, Aizen could make the report or testimony say WHATEVER HE WANTED. Say Yamamoto got up there to brief the Central 46 on the problem and say that he thought that Urahara was not the one to blame, and that he should be released. Well, with Aizen there, Yamamoto just told the Central 46 that as Captain-Commander of the Gotei 13, he was totally convinced of their guilt, and that they deserved the death penalty.
- For Tousen's friend, we have no real idea exactly when the incident took place - but since it was before he even became a Shinagami, we can reasonably assume it was at least a couple hundred years. Values Dissonance is a trope for a reason - and the Gotei 13 have heavily changed over time.
- As for Mayuri blowing up his squad - I got nothing, I never understood that, but for his extermination of the Quincies, I think it's more a case of as long as he was killing acceptable targets (whose very existence and ability to 'destroy' Hollows threatened the fabric of the world), they really didn't care.
- While I agree with you on how stupid they have behaved at a number of points, keep in mind that we have no REAL idea exactly how long Aizen was in total control of the Central 46. Ignoring the Anime points, which are non-canon, let me break down your points:
- I think you greatly overestimate Kenny's capacity for murder. Yes, he's crass. Yes, he's a sadomasochist. But the one thing he has consistently shown his respected enemies- whether they want it or not- is mercy. He'll carve them up into unrecognizable red goo, and he expects the same for himself, but he won't actually finish the job.
- I concede your point (it admittedly slipped my mind, so my bad, that's on me). Guess we'll have to wait and see; given the shock value of this arc in general, who knows what Kubo has up his sleeves and, more importantly, when he's going to show his hand.
- I think Shunsui is referring to their titles rather than them theirselves.
- On a related note, is it just me or does Murderous Unohana scare the piss out of everyone else too? I mean, dear God, at first she was all polite and motherly, with a Played for Laughs reputation. The scariest thing she ever did was smile, and the angriest we've seen her is when she called Aizen... A reprobate. Yeah. Hardly Nightmare Fuel. BUT THIS?! I want to start screaming, and never stop.
- Well let's face it, Unohana is basically a cross between Tsunade and Kenshin Himura.
- This seems to be the case as of 526 and 527. Seems. Given that Byakuya survived his injuries and merely fell into a coma when all else beforehand implied his wounds were fatal, only time will tell if my hunch was correct or if Kubo's just baiting us.
- In 573, Kenny wastes no time in telling Isane when she asks about Unohana's status that she's dead and he killed her. What's more, Isane, while clearly distraught, is accepting of the fact Kenpachi (as Unohana's only "legitimate" successor) inherited the title, implying she knew about Unohana's past (though that could be because of the letter Unohana left her before her duel with Kenpachi). So, until further notice, consider this one confirmed.
- Okay, hear me out a little on this one, even though most people seem to guess the other way round. My guess is that, Unohana has learned every method of killing Soul Society has to teach... when she transferred to the Captain's Chair of Squad 4, she was able to heal wounds so efficiently because she knows exactly how they would've been caused in the first place. Simply put: Unohana simply learned how to reverse the damage she was capable of inflicting on people.
- It could always be worse (although what you'll read next seems unlikely, so bear with me as well). Maybe Unohana was similar to Dr. Baldhead/Faust: gifted healer, snapped and went completely off of the deep end, used her medicinal and healing knowledge to great effect in battle (and perhaps used healing Kido to actually prolong her fights in a cruel and sadistic manner), became a ruthless killer who is perhaps the worst in Soul Society's history. When she finally repents, her old murderous persona still lies beneath the surface, something she's well aware of. Now that Unohana's drawing on that aspect of her self once more... Welp.
- Jossed. The Hōgyoku Aizen was "presented" to Kisuke's Hōgyoku, which formed the singular Hōgyoku we know and loathe. The Hōgyoku made is still merged within him, it merely rejects him as it's master.
- Jossed. While his father was initially engaged to Masaki Kurosaki, once the engagement was broken off, Ryuken married his childhood friend and servant Kanae Katagiri, and they had Uryu. She died a few months after Masaki died to Gran Fisher due to the Auswahlen putting her into a fatal coma, Uryu having the unfortunate luck of accidentally witnessing Ryuken performing an autopsy on her.
Due to the usual Asskicking Leads to Leadership way Soul Society is run, we would presume that the Spirit King, the very top of the top, would be so ridiculously powerful that if Aizen actually managed to make it past Squad Zero, an idea that seems more unlikely all the time, then the Spirit King would surely be able to swat him away with a spare thought. Why would something like that need guards? Why does God, in this universe, need guards? Why does Aizen think it is possible to kill the king? Why does Urahara think he needs protecting?
Simple. Just because the King is the lynchpin doesn't mean he's powerful. He's king in the same manner as the chess piece: both the most important and yet least powerful entity in the game.
- This seems quite believable. Aizen, Urahara et. all had zero compunctions whatsoever as to his ability to depose the spirit king once he created the Ouken, implying he isn't the godly powerful entity people assume he is, his actual IMPORTANCE to the functioning of the dimensions notwithstanding. Not to mention, what little we know of him indicates he spends the overwhelming majority of his time absorbed in his duties and/or in some sort of sleep or stasis. And although looks aren't everything, he seems to be a young man akin to the young age which the emperors of old Japan sometimes took power at. Or it simply could be that the overwhelming majority of his divine power is dedicated towards keeping the dimensions in check, leaving him weak and vulnerable.
Renegade Shinigami have been seen in the series, and it has been said that they fight amongst themselves. However, Mayuri, who was determined to be dangerous and locked up, still has spiritual powers and a zanpakuto, meaning it wasn't used on him. Also, when fighting another Shinigami, most seem to prefer using their swords or hand-to-hand combat, with a bit of kido in between. This makes sense, as most Shinigami are close range fighters, and if you can get in range for senka, you might as well lop their head off. More powerful Shinigami are usually faster anyway, so weak enemies can be killed with conventional techniques and strong Shinigami probably won't fall for it, as shown when Ichigo blocks Byakuya during their second fight.
But the Quincies are ranged fighters, and their reiatsu absorbing powers might make kido less effective. Unless they have a specifically ranged zanpakuto or a part of the Kido Corps, Shinigami would be disadvantaged in a ranged battle. The best way to dispatch them would be to strike them down quickly, and a technique was developed for this during the Quincy extermination - senka. A quick shunpo and precise strike that would get rid of those pesky Quincy powers, while letting the victim live long enough for Mayuri to swoop in and preserve his subjects for further experimentation. As for why it wasn't used against the Vandenreich, maybe they're just too powerful/quick/experienced to fall for it. And since it's an advanced shunpo technique, maybe only a few captains/former captains can pull it off, so it wasn't used against the Mooks.
So because they were not "born" as Human souls initially, they exist eternally outside of the cycle of souls the Shinigami maintain, so a Zanpakuto cannot "purify" them like it would a normal Hollows, but "death" instead returns them to Hueco Mundo where they are reborn again and again, unable to die.
- But then why would he order such a massacre himself?
- Not OP and not necessarily agreeing with this WMG, but... Because he knows it's necessary? Like, it's the Quincy's fault for destroying souls - the shinigami have no choice but to kill innocent soul society residents in order to keep the balance, and he understands that, therefore, if necessary, he'd even order such a thing himself. Or, alternatively... he's Mayuri. There's a reason the guy was locked away.
- Souls do automatically go to SS, unless they are anchored by Unfinished Business.
- No they don't. Remember all the souls Ichigo could see before becoming a shinigami? And english translation for shinigami is "soul reaper", which Kubo approved. What does a soul reaper do if not reaping souls?
- Some souls get stuck in the human world because they have Unfinished Business, like stalking their loved one. They are the ones who get "reaped." Those who don't have such stupid ideas can go to SS as soon as they die.
- Jossed by recent revelations in the manga, Quincy can't be Fullbringers because Hollow reiatsu is essentially the Quincies Kryptonite.
- Confirmed. Ryuken's initial fiance was Masaki Kurosaki, his cousin and a member of a branch family, having been all but adopted into the Ishida family for the sake of marrying Ryuken due to both being "Echt Quincy", otherwise known as purebreds, as Ryuken's mother wanted to keep the bloodline pure. Ryuken's actual love, later wife and Uryu's mother, Kanae Katagiri, was overlooked by Ryuken's mother due to being a "Gemischt Quincy", or mixed breed. Gemischt Quincy tend to also be the first targets of Yhwach's Auswählen, due to his desiring to purge the impure, Uryu only escaping due to Kanae taking the brunt of it, and Masaki being targetted despite being an Echt Quincy due to being "tainted" after being attacked by the Hollow White.
- the literal meaning of the english word perfect is something more along the lines of flawless, it doesn't mean complete (although it was derived from the latin word perfectus which does mean complete and something that is perfect would have to be complete because not being complete would be a flaw but something can be complete but imperfect) and Mayuri's speech was about how being without flaws would make science pointless because there would be nothing left to improve. but none of this really matters the question is if the japanese word that was translated as perfect matches the definition Mayuri thought it did. (if it didn't they probably would have translated the word as something else)
- It occured to me that Urahara was, at some point invited to (or considered for) The Royal Guard. Granted, there is absolutely zero evidence of this, but it makes sense when you consider:
- Urahara's healing hot spring in his & Yoruichi's underground playground were created through analyzing Tenjirō Kirinji's White Bone Hell and Blood Pond Hell springs, meaning Urahara has visited the Royal Palace at some point.
- This is further evidenced by the fact that he knows just what the Spirit King is.
- He mastered Bankai within three freaking days and even invented the artifact that would allow anyone else to do it - provided they had the needed potential. This would make him more than adequate, ability-wise.
- The main requirement for entering The Royal Guard is to make a significant contribution to the history of Soul Society, or in other words, something that never before existed within Soul Society. Kisuke established the Shinigami Research and Development Institute, not to mention created half the Hougyoku.
- Urahara's healing hot spring in his & Yoruichi's underground playground were created through analyzing Tenjirō Kirinji's White Bone Hell and Blood Pond Hell springs, meaning Urahara has visited the Royal Palace at some point.
- Of course, his eventual exile would have ended all talks of his promotion.
- Remember that Yoruichi said that he made the training ground in soul society when they were kids, meaning the pool was probably made at the same time, I'd say that he's originally from the royal dimension given that he was allowed to copy Tenjiro's pool and we still haven't been told why him, Yoruichi and Tessai grew up together at the Shihoin mansion.
Confirmed when the head Squad Zero captain(?) explains what Aizen was trying to create in the first place. It was the blood and bone of a Squad Zero which had access to the king's palace. Note however that in a flashback when Aizen was still a lieutenant, we overhear him listen as he learns of a captain that was promoted to Squad Zero. We mistake his shocked expression for a ploy on his part, but what if he was genuine?
He would know that she was the authority on mod souls and implanting a faux intelligence or being inside humans. TV Tropes has this on her page.
- "The "Ruler of Grain." Former captain of Squad 12, preceding Kisuke Urahara. Hiyori Sarugaki, her lieutenant at the time, regarded her as a mother figure. She's a cheery lady, but she has no qualms about striking people if they don't recognize her (like Shinji).
'Via. Reishi. Transference.
This sounds eerily familiar to Aizen implanting hollows into soul reapers. We have no idea how he did it, but he did it so well that even Shinji couldn't detect it. Note that when a Mod Soul enters a soul reaper, the reaper is evicted from the body and the mod soul hijacks it.
What happens when a mod soul with hollow infusion tries to evict a soul reaper from his spiritual form?
There's a huge point made about how Ichigo never saw Aizen's shikai release. But if he has bankai, and he's certainly strong enough that he almost certainly does, he also has the ability to use his shikai without saying anything (Byakuya mentions this to Renji when he first learns bankai, and that's a point that's never been brought up since). How do we know that Aizen didn't use his shikai on Ichigo without anyone noticing and hid away when he realised he couldn't actually defeat Ichigo, and is simply using his shikai ability to fool everyone to thinking he's imprisoned.Either that, or he let himself be captured but could escape whenever he wants and is just waiting around and has been planning to hijack Yhwach's plan to invade king's palace.
During their fight, Unohana chastizes Kenpachi for holding back in fights. However, when he reappears in battle, he's still wearing it. Nozarashi has a tassel and cloth covering the edge of the sword, rather than the hilt. When Kenpachi removes his eyepatch, the cloth and tassel come of.f the sword, giving him more power.
With all other letters now having been officially distributed, N is the only one left. Shaz Domino's letter must thus have also been redistributed among the Ritters. The only question that poses itself now is what the N stands for.
- The "Never Miss" maybe considering he has a gun.
- Confirmed, Robert Accutrone is N, but the name/power is still unknown.
- How he was able to survive a hole through his chest and regrow his body.
- How he was able to replace and make a solid copy of his identity and memories as a back up.
- How he was able to replace every single one of his organs and limbs with fakes.
- How he never looks the same way twice, if he's been experimenting on his own body for centuries.
- This implies that Nemu might be something akin to Mayuri.V.2.0
- Isshin - dark hair, shinigami. Masaki - Light hair, quincy.
- Karin - dark hair, sees spirits and is somewhat closer to Ichigo; Yuzu - light hair, can't see spirits.
- Uryū - Quincy, of course; pale-skinned male friend and combatant. Chad - "Fullbringer"; dark-skinned male friend and combatant.
- Rukia - dark-haired shinigami with a small build. Orihime - light-haired shinigami with a big build.
- Yourichi - dark-skinned master of melee combat. Urahara - pale-skinned master of melee combat.
- Hichigo - Self-explanatory. "Zangetsu" - his counterpart. This is a notable reversal of the light quincy motif.
This list could go on forever. Now, of course there's the obvious concept of light vs. dark (which surprisingly doesn't have a trope page!) but let's look at what's happened with these pairs (and some others).
- Isshin is alive. Masaki is not. Dark 'wins'.
- Karin can see spirits. Yuzu cannot. Dark 'wins'. Minor example; still applies.
- Uryū appears to be an enemy now. Chad remains an ally. Dark 'wins'.
- Forgive me for starting a shipping-war here, but Ichigo has a closer connection to Rukia - she did, after all, unlock his powers. Dark 'wins'.
- Urahara is no doubt a major aspect of Ichigo's development and training, but it was Yourichi who assaulted Soul Society to help rescue Rukia. Dark 'wins'.
- In the end, it was "Zangetsu" who unlocked Ichigo's full power. Dark 'wins'.
Dark -always- wins. Starrk, a light example, was killed by Shunsui, the dark, while he was calling the color "black". Which means, in the end, he will choose the side of dark to protect everyone. The only way he can choose dark and his shinigami side is to die, connecting him forever with Shinigami, Soul Society and Rukia (which is really the only light-dark balance above that lacks closure). Which leads to…
- … has no more family. Her parents aren't mentioned and, considering her brother is dead, we have zero verification that they even existed.
- … cannot prove she was actually related to her brother. A random mortal she possessed?
- … is built with a famously attractive body. What better way to draw the attention of mortals?
- … is Obfuscating Stupidity and/or Weakness.
- … can reject reality.
- … has never really been in serious danger, so she's never had to reveal herself.
- … has never had to display the full extent of her powers.
Oh, and of course, Aizen knew. Why else would he not try to harm her?
- Confirmed. As of chapter 685 and after a ten year Time Skip.
- I always figured that's why Kubo actually kept Aizen around - that it would have to be someone who is "transcendent" and Aizen actually planned to use Ichigo for replacing the Soul King (that's why Aizen was actually consistently trying to make Ichigo more powerful) but instead, Aizen will get to be the new "linchpin" (but because it takes so much power essentially be a vegetable, like the old King was).
- With no idea how to stop Yhwach's ultimate trump card, I feel a little traveling through time to turn the situation into a more fair fight may be required.
- Aizen - Given his illusory theme, his bankai probably would be reminiscent of Tsukuyomi, something like a mass Mind Rape.
- Ukitake - Interestingly his ability can be somehow compared to the Quincys: Absorb energy, then blast it back. His bankai probably would have been something similar to Uryuu's first Letz Still. Maybe.
- Isane - Now this is tricky; her shikai's ability hasn't even been fully shown yet, and now she's captain. Maybe her bankai would be something a healing fountain of sorts, given that she's a medic?
- Hisagi - Maybe his bankai would be similar to Sasakibe's bankai, except that where Sasakibe's bankai turns his Zanpakuto into a lightning storm, Hisagi's turn his into a hurricane.
(Feel free to add to this if you think I missed anything)
Of course, the Soul King is God, and the Shinigami/Soul Reapers are His angels (and, on a side note, "Kenpachi" is the title of the Angel of Death). Obviously, as an extension of the above, Aizen is Satan, with his powers perfectly fitting the part of a great deciever. The Hollows are the locusts, with the humanlike faces of the locusts being analogous to Hollow masks, and one of the Espada, probably Yammy, is the "Angel of the Bottomless Pit who leads them. Ichigo's mother is the woman pregnant with the child the dragon (Satan/Aizen) was poised to devour at birth (representing Aizen's plans for Ichigo, which may or may not have included literally eating him) and Ichigo is the new Messiah (who is described as suspiciously resembling the Inner Hollow). The Eyeball Monk is, as befits his power, a manifestation of God's word ("In the beginning, there was the Word. And the Word was with God and the Word was God.") and the rest of Zero Division are four "heavenly creatures" surrounding the throne of God. Yhwach is the Antichrist, and the Scrifts (or possibly distributed fragments of his soul in general) are the Mark of the Beast.
Characters who were only in the Anime, who are connected enough to Soul Society and Still alive (Gou, The Mod Souls, Ran Tao, Kasumioji Clan, and a few surviving Filler Arrancars.) might take part in the war in some shape or form, even if only a scene here or there.
- As revealed in No Breathes From Hell, the gates of Hell have opened and could easily be the cruel future Haschwalth saw when he held Yhwach's power.
- No Breaths From Hell opens with someone, heavily implied to be Kazui, reminiscing about a pair of goldfish they owned when they were younger and how, when the larger one died, the smaller goldfish that they had thought had finished growing began to increase in size once more. Prompting the speaker to state that they're glad the bigger fish died.
- This situation fits the narrative eerily well, with Kazui, much like his fellow child of a Shonen Big Three protagonist Boruto, unable to grow into his full potential as a protagonist so long as his dad is there to handle things. With the implication that Kazui's story can't be properly told until Ichigo's either comes to an end or gets sidelined.