History WMG / Bleach

22nd Aug '16 4:54:38 AM KantonKage
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[[WMG: In the living world, Sajin Komamura was a real canid]]

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* It's later jossed as it's revealed that [[spoiler:Yachiru is Kenpachi's zanpakuto.]]

[[WMG: In the living world, Sajin Komamura was a real canid]]canine]]
6th Aug '16 3:46:06 PM Wyldchyld
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This may [[BreakTheHaughty humble the surviving Shinigami into learning from their mistakes,]][[HumblePie make amends with all those they have wronged over the centuries]] and reform their society while they [[TheResistance regain their forces to take back the Seretei from the Vandenreich]] and start over on the right foot. At least it will be more interesing to see Soul Society change drastically which might redeem them from being [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]]

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This may [[BreakTheHaughty humble the surviving Shinigami into learning from their mistakes,]][[HumblePie make amends with all those they have wronged over the centuries]] and reform their society while they [[TheResistance regain their forces to take back the Seretei from the Vandenreich]] and start over on the right foot. At least it will be more interesing to see Soul Society change drastically which might redeem them from being [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]]
Heroes.



Ichigo's already a Soul Reaper, a Visored, and a Fullbring. If Tite Kubo is going to power the heck out of Ichigo, he might as well go all the way and reveal that Ichigo's mother was a Quincy [[StarCrossedLovers (don't forget that Ichigo's father is a Soul Reaper)]], Ichigo inherited Quincy blood and their techniques, and he will be the strongest Quincy there is.

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Ichigo's already a Soul Reaper, a Visored, and a Fullbring. If Tite Kubo is going to power the heck out of Ichigo, he might as well go all the way and reveal that Ichigo's mother was a Quincy [[StarCrossedLovers (don't forget that Ichigo's father is a Soul Reaper)]], Reaper), Ichigo inherited Quincy blood and their techniques, and he will be the strongest Quincy there is.
4th Aug '16 7:07:08 AM okyrro
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. As of chapter 685 and after a ten year TimeSkip.]]
15th Jul '16 11:55:23 AM DoctorTItanX
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** Orihime would'nt be crying when ichigo cries if it was a shallow type of love.

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** Orihime would'nt wouldn't be crying when ichigo Ichigo cries if it was a shallow type of love.



I base most of this WMG on two factors: 1) Arrancar don't seem to need to eat souls anymore (they don't mention the desire, certainly) except in unusual cases like with Syzayel's Fracciones, and 2) Nel and her Fracciones are positively gentle by the standards of every other Hollow we've ever seen, suggesting that Arrancar do not fit the AlwaysChaoticEvil mold of Hollows in general. For that matter, Arrancar seem as a whole more sympathetic and honorable than ordinary Hollows, even if they tend to be evil by human standards (e.g., Grimmjow's flashback, the Privarrone Espadas that Sado and Ichigo fight early on in the Heacuo Mundo arc, and so on)--the tendency towards ill could be explained by simple familiarity: they've been cruel and callous long enough to consume the number of souls they need to in order to reach the Menos state at least, and this mindset is not one that is easily dispelled. Types like Syzayel and Ulquiora could be explained simply by variant character types--there are people who are gonna be bastards no matter what race you look at.

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I base most of this WMG on two factors: 1) Arrancar don't seem to need to eat souls anymore (they don't mention the desire, certainly) except in unusual cases like with Syzayel's Fracciones, and 2) Nel and her Fracciones are positively gentle by the standards of every other Hollow we've ever seen, suggesting that Arrancar do not fit the AlwaysChaoticEvil mold of Hollows in general. For that matter, Arrancar seem as a whole more sympathetic and honorable than ordinary Hollows, even if they tend to be evil by human standards (e.g., Grimmjow's flashback, the Privarrone Espadas that Sado and Ichigo fight early on in the Heacuo Hueco Mundo arc, and so on)--the tendency towards ill could be explained by simple familiarity: they've been cruel and callous long enough to consume the number of souls they need to in order to reach the Menos state at least, and this mindset is not one that is easily dispelled. Types like Syzayel and Ulquiora could be explained simply by variant character types--there are people who are gonna be bastards no matter what race you look at.



This is partially an extension of an entry on the 'shikai' page entitled "Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo's form/true power". It suggests that Zangetsu's power is based on its ability to choose its own form. I suggest that the true power of Tensa Zangetsu is to allow Ichigo to change the form of his [[SwordBeam Getsuga Tenshou]], effectively turning it into a [[MorphWeapon shapshifting weapon]] [[LaserBlade made of pure Reiatsu]]. This is most noticeable in the Ulquiorra fights. In the first fight, Ichigo's Getsuga is less like a projectile and more like a tidal wave of energy, and in the second fight Ichigo learns how to "hold" the Getsuga within his sword to power up his slashes. The reason Ichigo injures himself the first few times he uses bankai/Getsuga is because it never occurred to him that he had to control the energy, and he ended up being wrecked by the feedback. It was only after he learned self-control (via his Hollowfication training) that he could use Getsuga without hurting himself.

When you think about it, a weapon whose true power is its level of control is the perfect complement to Ichigo's Hollow abilities, which rely on unbridled raw power. Considering that Ichigo gained both Zangetsu and his Hollow side at the exact same time, it's possible that Zangetsu's entire purpose is to give Ichigo a means to control his own strength, in Hollow form or otherwise. It could also explain Zangetsu's appearance. He represents what Ichigo ''could be'', a wise and experienced swordsman in control of his power and his emotions, as opposed to a HotBlooded kid with PowerIncontinence and a SuperpoweredEvilSide.

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This is partially an extension of an entry on the 'shikai' 'Shikai' page entitled "Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo's form/true power". It suggests that Zangetsu's power is based on its ability to choose its own form. I suggest that the true power of Tensa Zangetsu is to allow Ichigo to change the form of his [[SwordBeam Getsuga Tenshou]], effectively turning it into a [[MorphWeapon shapshifting weapon]] [[LaserBlade made of pure Reiatsu]]. This is most noticeable in the Ulquiorra fights. In the first fight, Ichigo's Getsuga is less like a projectile and more like a tidal wave of energy, and in the second fight Ichigo learns how to "hold" the Getsuga within his sword to power up his slashes. The reason Ichigo injures himself the first few times he uses bankai/Getsuga is because it never occurred to him that he had to control the energy, and he ended up being wrecked by the feedback. It was only after he learned self-control (via his Hollowfication training) that he could use Getsuga without hurting himself.

When you think about it, a weapon whose true power is its level of control is the perfect complement to Ichigo's Hollow abilities, which rely on unbridled raw power. Considering that Ichigo gained both Zangetsu and his Hollow side at the exact same time, it's possible that Zangetsu's entire purpose is to give Ichigo a means to control his own strength, in Hollow form or otherwise. It could also explain Zangetsu's appearance. He represents what Ichigo ''could be'', be'': a wise and experienced swordsman in control of his power and his emotions, as opposed to a HotBlooded kid with PowerIncontinence and a SuperpoweredEvilSide.



Urahara hid the Hogyoku in a gigai, got exiled, then handed the gigai to Rukia after episode 1. The Hogyoku didn't actually try turning Rukia into a l'Cie but it was still compelled to carry out its Focus to fulfill her desire, which was to lose her powers permanently. Passing on her powers to Ichigo was a total accident, but ''staying'' powerless was the Hogyoku's doing since Rukia felt herself undeserving of staying as a shinigami. (Which means that Urahara didn't naturally make a gigai to strip a shinigami of their powers; that'd just be silly.)

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Urahara hid the Hogyoku in a gigai, got exiled, then handed the gigai to Rukia after episode Episode 1. The Hogyoku didn't actually try turning Rukia into a l'Cie but it was still compelled to carry out its Focus to fulfill her desire, which was to lose her powers permanently. Passing on her powers to Ichigo was a total accident, but ''staying'' powerless was the Hogyoku's doing since Rukia felt herself undeserving of staying as a shinigami. (Which means that Urahara didn't naturally make a gigai to strip a shinigami of their powers; that'd just be silly.)



Aizen states that the Hougyoku was defined as "the ability to remove the boundary between shinigamis and hollows" because that's what Urahara wanted. In the Pendulum arc Urahara also states that he created the Hougyoku "to strengthen souls". He seals it again at the beginning of the story but not before he's fully aware of its power. When he first uses it on Shinji, he's first convinced that it failed. Before Rukia shows up he would've had to have used it on someone to come to this realization. Like Aizen, he would use it on a subordinate first, and Tessai volunteers. Then Urahara uses it on himself in preparation for the battle with Aizen. It suggests that he made Ichigo a Vaizard on purpose, or decided to run with it when Ichigo's mask formed first.

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Aizen states that the Hougyoku was defined as "the ability to remove the boundary between shinigamis Shinigamis and hollows" Hollows" because that's what Urahara wanted. In the Pendulum arc arc, Urahara also states that he created the Hougyoku "to strengthen souls". He seals it again at the beginning of the story but not before he's fully aware of its power. When he first uses it on Shinji, he's first convinced that it failed. Before Rukia shows up he would've had to have used it on someone to come to this realization. Like Aizen, he would use it on a subordinate first, and Tessai volunteers. Then Urahara uses it on himself in preparation for the battle with Aizen. It suggests that he made Ichigo a Vaizard on purpose, or decided to run with it when Ichigo's Hollow mask formed first.



[[WMG: Kenpachi's zanpaktou spirit's true form is actually...]]

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[[WMG: Kenpachi's zanpaktou Zanpaktou spirit's true form is actually...]]



* Possibility: Aizen's shikai controls the senses. Since bankai is supposed to be similar, but 5-10 times stronger, my idea is that his bankai controls PERCEPTION. So he releases his bankai, and everyone immediately lowers their guards because they no longer perceive him as a threat, even as they watch him cut them down one by one. It's a SEP (Someone Else's Problem) field, among other things. Moreover, fitting with the enemies-fight-eachother theme, it can make them perceive each other other as dangerous enemies.

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* Possibility: Aizen's shikai Shikai controls the senses. Since bankai Bankai is supposed to be similar, but 5-10 times stronger, my idea is that his bankai Bankai controls PERCEPTION. So he releases his bankai, Bankai, and everyone immediately lowers their guards because they no longer perceive him as a threat, even as they watch him cut them down one by one. It's a SEP (Someone Else's Problem) field, among other things. Moreover, fitting with the enemies-fight-eachother theme, it can make them perceive each other other as dangerous enemies.



Yachiru has a cat shaped reiatsu. She was also seen wearing a cat costume from time to time. All this is probably hinting that her shikai probably involves a cat-like weapon.

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Yachiru has a cat shaped cat-shaped reiatsu. She was also seen wearing a cat costume from time to time. All this is probably hinting that her shikai Shikai probably involves a cat-like weapon.



With the occasional StoryBreakerPower Bankai we've seen, this could be just what they need to get through the impenetrable shields and Aizen's impenetrable illusions, or even make [[MacGuffin a certain area]] permenently unusable- A law of physics stronger than reality itself. His power is to exponentially increase the effect of gravity on what he strikes, and despite his personality, his shikai's power and physical form are respectively made for subjugating and executing the subjugated, nothing more, nothing less. A big ball o' death or a RocksFallEverybodyDies[[ThingOMatic -o-matic]] would be the (il)logical extension of his abilities.

[[WMG: Ichigo's real and/or new bankai ability is 100% efficiency. ]]
In other words, instead of leaking spiritual pressure like everyone else does to some degree, all of his spiritual energy is perfectly contained within himself or his zanpaktou. This is why no one can sense any power from him. This also means that he won't become weak due to exhaustion unless he starts spamming getsugas everywhere. Plus, this probably gives him hierro.

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With the occasional StoryBreakerPower Bankai we've seen, this could be just what they need to get through the impenetrable shields and Aizen's impenetrable illusions, or even make [[MacGuffin a certain area]] permenently unusable- A unusable - a law of physics stronger than reality itself. His power is to exponentially increase the effect of gravity on what he strikes, and despite his personality, his shikai's Shikai's power and physical form are respectively made for subjugating and executing the subjugated, nothing more, nothing less. A big ball o' death or a RocksFallEverybodyDies[[ThingOMatic -o-matic]] would be the (il)logical extension of his abilities.

[[WMG: Ichigo's real and/or new bankai Bankai ability is 100% efficiency. ]]
In other words, instead of leaking spiritual pressure like everyone else does to some degree, all of his spiritual energy is perfectly contained within himself or his zanpaktou.Zanpaktou. This is why no one can sense any power from him. This also means that he won't become weak due to exhaustion unless he starts spamming getsugas firing Getsuga Tenshou everywhere. Plus, this probably gives him hierro.Hierro.



A friendly woman who [[ThisIsUnforgivable cannot forgive]] the evil hollows who disturb peace (congruent with her earlier irritation at people not following rules). Really, though, all the evidence you need is that ponytail. Just as she was finally getting taller, poor Chiyo was seriously injured in one of [[JerkAss Tomo]]'s pranks, then finished off in a tragic [[DrivesLikeCrazy car crash]]. Over time, [[ThrowTheDogABone she made new friends in Soul Society, secured an important position, and even found love]] [[note]]Logically, it would take decades for Chiyo to mature to Miyako's age, but time in Soul Society doesn't necessarily follow time in the World of Humans, so Chiyo's death could have occurred just a few years before the current storyline[[/note]]. [[YankTheDogsChain Then she died]]. [[TheWoobie Again]]. [[FromBadToWorse Which led to her husband's death]]. Hey, maybe those [[DarkFic Dark Fics]] were on to something.

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A friendly woman who [[ThisIsUnforgivable cannot forgive]] the evil hollows Hollows who disturb peace (congruent with her earlier irritation at people not following rules). Really, though, all the evidence you need is that ponytail. Just as she was finally getting taller, poor Chiyo was seriously injured in one of [[JerkAss Tomo]]'s pranks, then finished off in a tragic [[DrivesLikeCrazy car crash]]. Over time, [[ThrowTheDogABone she made new friends in Soul Society, secured an important position, and even found love]] [[note]]Logically, it would take decades for Chiyo to mature to Miyako's age, but time in Soul Society doesn't necessarily follow time in the World of Humans, so Chiyo's death could have occurred just a few years before the current storyline[[/note]]. [[YankTheDogsChain Then she died]]. [[TheWoobie Again]]. [[FromBadToWorse Which led to her husband's death]]. Hey, maybe those [[DarkFic Dark Fics]] were on to something.



Every time ichigo gets a power increase, it is accompanied by longer hair. Same deal with Aizen. I propose that hair growth is more than an indicator of power; it actually increases a person's riatsu directly. This would also explain several mysteries: why Kenpachi is so overpowered, why byakuya wears armour on his hair, and exactly what's going on with Yamamoto's eyebrows and beard.

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Every time ichigo gets a power increase, it is accompanied by longer hair. Same deal with Aizen. I propose that hair growth is more than an indicator of power; it actually increases a person's riatsu directly. This would also explain several mysteries: why Kenpachi is so overpowered, powerful, why byakuya Byakuya wears armour on his hair, and exactly what's going on with Yamamoto's eyebrows and beard.
6th Jul '16 12:27:22 AM DoctorTItanX
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* With no idea how to stop yhwach's ultimate trump card, i feel a little traveling through time to turn the situation into a more fair fight maybe be required.

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* With no idea how to stop yhwach's Yhwach's ultimate trump card, i I feel a little traveling through time to turn the situation into a more fair fight maybe may be required.
25th Jun '16 9:29:44 PM jahman
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** Orihime would'nt be crying when ichigo cries if it was a shallow type of love.






* I always figured that's why Kubo actually kept Aizen around - that it would have to be someone who is "transcendent" and Aizen actually planned to use Ichigo for replacing the Soul King (that's why Aizen was actually consistently trying to make Ichigo more powerful) but instead, Aizen will get to be the new "linchpin" (but because it takes so much power essentially be a vegetable, like the old King was)

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* I always figured that's why Kubo actually kept Aizen around - that it would have to be someone who is "transcendent" and Aizen actually planned to use Ichigo for replacing the Soul King (that's why Aizen was actually consistently trying to make Ichigo more powerful) but instead, Aizen will get to be the new "linchpin" (but because it takes so much power essentially be a vegetable, like the old King was)was).
[[WMG: Time Travel will play a part in Yhwach's defeat]]
* With no idea how to stop yhwach's ultimate trump card, i feel a little traveling through time to turn the situation into a more fair fight maybe be required.
17th Jun '16 1:08:46 PM Willbyr
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[[WMG: [[DeadAllAlong Ichigo]] [[FistOfTheNorthStar is already dead]].]]

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[[WMG: [[DeadAllAlong Ichigo]] [[FistOfTheNorthStar [[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar is already dead]].]]
31st May '16 1:51:07 PM Willbyr
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* Probably a ShoutOut to [[DragonBallZ SSJ3.]]

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* Probably a ShoutOut to [[DragonBallZ [[Anime/DragonBallZ SSJ3.]]
9th May '16 4:17:48 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG: Aizen and the Spirit King are [[Manga/MiraiNikki Diary Holders]].]]

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[[WMG: Aizen and the Spirit King are [[Manga/MiraiNikki [[Manga/FutureDiary Diary Holders]].]]
18th Apr '16 9:34:51 AM Willbyr
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It's really called the [[KingdomHearts Kingdom Key]].

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It's really called the [[KingdomHearts [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Kingdom Key]].



Both are dispassionate but determined in completing their goals. Saix starts out quiet and restrained but when his plans begin to fall apart at the hands of the good guy, he goes berserk. Aizen reacts to defeat in the same way. The most damning evidence, they both have mullets, albeit of a different color. Back when Aizen was still researching hollowfication, he made a nobody of himself and sent it to the kingdom hearts-verse to learn about kingdom hearts, then abandoning the nobody when he learned of the hogyokou.

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Both are dispassionate but determined in completing their goals. Saix starts out quiet and restrained but when his plans begin to fall apart at the hands of the good guy, he goes berserk. Aizen reacts to defeat in the same way. The most damning evidence, they both have mullets, albeit of a different color. Back when Aizen was still researching hollowfication, he made a nobody of himself and sent it to the kingdom hearts-verse [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Kingdom Hearts-verse]] to learn about kingdom hearts, ''Kingdom Hearts'', then abandoning the nobody when he learned of the hogyokou.
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