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As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.

This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.

See here for a list of needed disambigs.

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  • Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.

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Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#551: Jul 1st 2022 at 4:41:51 PM

Anyone against moving Music.AURORA to Music.Aurora Aksnes?

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bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#552: Jul 1st 2022 at 6:12:05 PM

No objection here. It's natural disambiguation.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#553: Jul 1st 2022 at 6:17:44 PM

Wikipedia says she's known mononymously.

There's also other music groups by the name... maybe Music.Aurora Singer?

Willowleaf24 from Somewhere buried in snow Since: Nov, 2020 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#554: Jul 2nd 2022 at 3:13:22 PM

WesternAnimation.He Man And The Masters Of The Universe is just a redirect to Franchise.Masters Of The Universe, so it probably shouldn't have subpages. Having no knowledge of the franchise, though, I'm having trouble figuring out whether the items on the Headscratchers page and WMG page are specific to a single work (and if so, which one), or relevant to the franchise as a whole.

Most of the WMGs, at least, seem fairly non-specific or appear to cross series, so I was thinking about just moving all of those to the Franchise WMG page.

The first two items on the Headscratchers page, though, appear to be pretty specific, mentioning "an episode" with a certain plot (Teela's inability to adapt), and details about a particular set of events (Orko knocking down a statue and getting yelled at).

Any thoughts?

INever Since: Feb, 2014
#555: Jul 3rd 2022 at 1:26:23 AM

Asking to disambiguate the The Legend of Zelda tv show from The Legend of Zelda franchise page for 4 reasons:

  • Subpage conflict. The tv show's YMMV tab directs the viewer to the franchise's YMMV page, not The Legend Of Zelda Animated.
  • Scattered trivia. Some trivia is in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!, and also in the actual franchise's trivia page about the dub's voice actors. Can we put it all in one place?
  • Doesn't make sense for a 80s show to have pages referencing games that it has nothing to do with. It only references two games (and a comic), so basically that's... very little of the franchise at this point.
  • They share the same name, which you can already see in the first sentence of this post. A retronym suggested by troper Amonimus from my thread would be The Legend of Zelda (1989). No actual weblink conflicts (as far as I'm aware), but separating the two names would be nice.

Should they be disambiguated?

EDIT: ^ I don't know He-Man either, unfortunately. Someone else would have to comment on that.

Edited by INever on Jul 3rd 2022 at 1:49:40 AM

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
INever Since: Feb, 2014
#559: Jul 3rd 2022 at 3:55:24 PM

Cool, I'll move it later tonight when I'm not on mobile. Thanks!

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#560: Jul 4th 2022 at 7:59:36 AM

Should ComicBook.Malibu Comics Mortal Kombat be ComicBook.Mortal Kombat Malibu Comics instead?

Found it because Sibling Fusion's image source isn't image-linked.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#561: Jul 7th 2022 at 8:41:16 AM

[up] Yep. "Malibu Comics" isn't in the title.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#562: Jul 7th 2022 at 12:40:51 PM

I've been moving Manga.Touch wicks to Manga.Touch 1981, but I see that there's tropes that use the Manga for the Anime, is that okay, or should I use a different page?

And if I do, would it be Anime.Touch 1981, or Anime.Touch 1985, using the year of the anime's start or the date of the source work?

And also the manga's YMMV page is talking about the Anime.

Edited by Malady on Jul 7th 2022 at 12:41:20 PM

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underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#563: Jul 7th 2022 at 12:49:36 PM

[up]This depends. There is a reason that anime and manga get folderized together... In many cases, one is such a straight adaptation of the other that most trope entries work equally well for either. If that is the case here, convention is to keep it all under whichever medium came first.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#564: Jul 7th 2022 at 1:20:15 PM

I only read the manga but from what I read online, I don't think they are different enough from each other to split. The anime is mostly true to the manga besides a few details on how the pivotal tragedy of the story is treated. Besides that, the anime has the typical filler episodes like other anime adaptations and leaves out some things that were in the Manga towards the end as the anime ends earlier than the Manga.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 7th 2022 at 5:16:51 AM

Macron's notes
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#565: Jul 7th 2022 at 1:35:29 PM

Okay, keeping the Manga wicks and moving them to Manga.

It just feels weird saying that someone is an Animator for a Manga, instead of an Anime.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#566: Jul 7th 2022 at 2:11:16 PM

"someone is an Animator for a Manga"

Where?

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#567: Jul 7th 2022 at 2:21:24 PM

You can phrase it as "X is an animator for the anime adaption of [manga]" or something like that.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#568: Jul 7th 2022 at 2:43:26 PM

Well, actors:

Producers?

Theme Singer:

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#569: Jul 8th 2022 at 12:04:53 AM

~Anddrix : I noticed you moved TabletopGame.Werewolf to TabletopGame.Werewolf 1986. I don't think that's a good disambiguation for it. As the page says, it was Mafia that was created in 1986, and the version known as Werewolf was created in 1997.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#570: Jul 8th 2022 at 12:20:59 AM

Ah I hadn't noticed that. I was mainly going off of the Wikipedia page:

Mafia, also known as Werewolf, is a social deduction game, created by Dimitry Davidoff in 1986.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#571: Jul 8th 2022 at 12:38:17 PM

Although it mostly talks about Werewolf, the page actually also covers Mafia, since they're basically the same game.

If it has to be disambiguated (Does it?), here's my ideas:

  • Mafia (1986)
  • Mafia (Parlor Game)
  • Mafia (Party Game)
  • Werewolf (1997)
  • Werewolf (Parlor Game)
  • Werewolf (Party Game)
  • Mafia and Werewolf
  • Mafia/Werewolf
  • Werewolf and Mafia
  • Werewolf/Mafia

I lean towards one of the last four options.

There's also the matter of the namespace, since it's not really a tabletop game (cards are used to assign roles, but you could just as easily use slips of paper), but that's a separate issue.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#572: Jul 9th 2022 at 2:31:09 PM

Literature.Scorched... No tropes at all, has a Characters.Scorched... Do we cut or what, since there's Film.Scorched?


Film.The Lodger... There's a remake or something we call Film.The Lodger 2009, and the blue link says the source is from 1913, while Literature.The Lodger says 1914...


Traveller, or Traveler? Then there's Series.Traveler 2007. Travelers also exists. Not sure if it helps that Literature.Travelers is a disambig.

Edited by Malady on Jul 9th 2022 at 2:44:53 AM

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Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#573: Jul 9th 2022 at 6:37:15 PM

Should Mafia be considered Roleplay?

Kirby is awesome.
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#574: Jul 9th 2022 at 7:17:27 PM

Nah, it's a set of rules by which any group of people can play a game — not a single instance of a game which was documented for public consumption.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.

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