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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#76: Mar 28th 2017 at 1:24:33 PM

Anybody care to check wicks for aversion examples still pointing to Infant Immortality?

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#77: Mar 28th 2017 at 2:36:46 PM

Currently 2157 wicks:

  1. Literature.A Brighter Sun: subversion
  2. Film.Absentia: subversion
  3. YMMV.Absolute Despair Girls: correct, but the entry was cut for misuse of Broken Base
  4. VideoGame.Absolute Despair Girls: correct and a double subversion
  5. Film.Act Of Valor: aversion
  6. LIterature.A Curse Dark As Gold: aversion
  7. VideoGame.A Dance With Rogues: aversion
  8. Literature.Adventures Of A Demon Hunting Soccer Mom: correct
  9. Recap.Adventure Time S 629 Dark Purple: correct
  10. Film.A Fistful Of Dynamite: aversion
  11. Characters.Afro Samurai: subverted aversion an aversion
  12. Fanfic.After That Fateful Night: correct
  13. Recap.Agent Carter S 1 E 5 The Iron Ceiling: aversion, removed for redirecting to another part of the page and a ZCE otherwise
  14. Recap.Agents Of SHIELDS 2 E 17 Melinda: aversion
  15. FanFic.A Glad Day: aversion, cut as ZCE
  16. Series.Aguila Roja: aversion,
  17. Film.Ah Boys To Men: double subversion and aversion, which I think is enough to get a pass per wiki policy
  18. Series.Air Crash Investigation: correct and aversions
  19. Film.Airport: correct
  20. Series.Aishiteru: subversion
  21. Recap.Albedo Erma Felna EDF Battle Of Derzon: aversion
  22. Recap.Albedo Erma Felna EDF Volume One Number Three: aversion
  23. Creator.Alfred Hitchcock: aversion, but notable in that it was surprising for the genre at the time, so I's say keep
  24. Characters.Alien 1: pothole, so misused and cut, but right in spirit
  25. Film.Alien 3: aversion
  26. Film.Alien Abduction Incident In Lake County: "Partial aversion. The little girl is among those missing but it's hinted she may be in league with the aliens or at least possessed." Not sure what to make of that.
  27. Film.Alien S: correct and subversion
  28. YMMV.Aliens Vs Predator Requiem: aversion
  29. Characters.Alien Vs Predator: aversion and subversion
  30. Aliss: aversion
  31. Allegiance: aversion
  32. Film.All Hallows Eve: aversion
  33. Film.Alligator: aversion and correct
  34. Series.All My Children: aversion
  35. VideoGame.Alter Ego: corrects and subversions
  36. VideoGame.Alundra aversion
  37. ComicBook.Amazons Attack: aversion
  38. Film.Amber Alert: correct
  39. Literature.American Cornball: aversion
  40. WesternAnimation.American Dragon Jake Long: "While played straight with 88 and 89, yeah...about all of those kids at the Huntsclan Academy..." Since they aren't confined to die I say we can let that slide.
  41. Characters.American Dragon Jake Long: correct
  42. Franchise.American Girls Collection: correct and aversion
  43. VideoGame.American Mcgees Grimm: zigzagged
  44. Film.American Sniper: aversion
  45. Film.Amistad: aversion
  46. Franchise.Amityville: "Averted and played straight numerous times."
  47. Film.Amityville II The Possession: "Averted, as demanded by the true story. Notably, however, the two youngest family members are killed offscreen, unlike their parents." Downplayed?
  48. Film.Amityville Its About Time: correct
  49. Characters.Amnesia A Machine For Pigs: aversion
  50. Creator.Amoridere: "She plays with this." ZCE

Also, many subversion ave vague enough that they may be aversions instead, and pets and animal were lumped int the Alien examples, is there a trope for that?

In short, we have enough cleaning up to do that it might be worth a rename. Any thoughts?

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#78: Mar 29th 2017 at 4:30:04 PM

That's a start, thanks. What should be renamed? I noticed that you wrote in one of your ZCE removals that aversions of Infant Immortality are not noteworthy. Actually they are, now troped under Death of a Child.

edited 29th Mar '17 4:30:36 PM by eroock

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#79: Apr 4th 2017 at 10:13:22 AM

I proposed the rename "Improbable Infant Immortality", which keeps Added Alliterative Appeal and clarifies the issue that led to misuse (where the lack of harm to children is inexplicable), while keeping it distinct from Wouldn't Hurt a Child and Only Fatal to Adults, which are justified by the narrative. Also contrast Harmful to Minors.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#80: Apr 4th 2017 at 10:36:28 AM

^ I like the proposed rename.

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#81: Apr 4th 2017 at 10:41:33 PM

Recently removed a recently added aversion to Mass Effect: Andromeda. Misuse still remains. Can we get a rename up for a vote so we have an excuse to fully clean this up?

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#82: Apr 5th 2017 at 8:23:35 AM

I like Improbable Infant Immortality as well. I'll go ahead an set up a new crowner if that option gets more consensus here first.

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#83: Apr 5th 2017 at 2:31:30 PM

I've attached a rename crowner.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#84: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:02:26 PM

"Inexplicable Infant Immortality" is another possible name.

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#85: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:20:04 PM

I'm going for Improbable (if only because it's slightly shortergrin).

edited 10th Apr '17 6:20:27 PM by Theatre_Maven_3695

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#86: Apr 11th 2017 at 7:44:01 AM

Crowners need at least ten votes, it' at 12:0. I'd say we can call it.

Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#87: Apr 11th 2017 at 1:09:50 PM

Calling in favor of rename. If we haven't already, let's come up with some alternate names.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#88: Apr 11th 2017 at 1:17:49 PM

"Improbable Infant Immortality" and "Inexplicable Infant Immortality" are two options, any other ideas for a rename?

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#89: Apr 17th 2017 at 10:21:28 AM

Bumping a stalled thread.

Since we've unanimously agreed to a rename, can we put possible renames onto a crowner so we can move to the next stage?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#90: Apr 18th 2017 at 12:32:35 PM

I linked a crowner for you.

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#91: Apr 19th 2017 at 10:43:12 PM

I don't like having "Immortality" in the name. Something like "Improbable Infant Survival" is more up front about the trope definition.

We lose out on Added Alliterative Appeal, but eh.

edited 19th Apr '17 10:43:47 PM by Karxrida

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#92: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:29:45 AM

Now that you mention it, agreed. "Immortality" still sort-of gives off the impression that the trope is an absolute rule, rather just than a common convention with many subversions. "Survival" works better.

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Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#93: Apr 20th 2017 at 3:00:07 PM

[tup] ...though I hate to see the ol' triple A get shoved aside. Witty has always been my favourite part of the TVT Holy Trinity (my writing style leans heavily on snarky Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness, peppered with (often multilayered) puns and enough Reference Overdosed-ness to make a fandom salivate. Basically the same mischievous yet righteously outraged spirit that drove Oscar Wilde (or perhaps Marilyn Manson would be closer to the mark).

edited 20th Apr '17 3:01:36 PM by Theatre_Maven_3695

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#94: Apr 20th 2017 at 3:04:28 PM

Also, added the new suggestion.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#95: May 16th 2017 at 7:23:20 AM

Bump for more votes. Improbable Infant Survival is leading so far.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#96: Jul 20th 2017 at 6:40:49 AM

Another bump. This crowner has been up for two months now, but only 7 people have voted on it.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#97: Jul 22nd 2017 at 2:40:37 AM

Perhaps because of the wrong crowner date in the thread title.

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#98: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:14:13 AM

Updated the date, hopefully it helps.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#99: Jul 31st 2017 at 7:28:14 AM

One final bump.

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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#100: Aug 6th 2017 at 4:56:14 AM

Looks safe to call.

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