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open Gym tribune closes over a girl Live Action TV
There is a TV show when in a scene, a bully girl(if I remember well) goes under a tribune and someone pushes the button that closes the tribune and traps her there , she after gets a cast on her body
openLanguage specific trope
Can I put a trope that only apply to one particular translation of a media ? Like what if there was a meme that only sprouted in one specific language ? Can I put Memetic Mutation and possibly Ascended Meme even if it's not from the original language ?
Edited by jOSEFdelavilleopenUnintentionally Unsympathetic misuse?
UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.Western Animation
- Jesus christ, the Diamond Authority, especially White Diamond They had been set up as purely sociopathic villains with no redeeming qualities with the exception of Blue, with White Diamond in particular draining the life force of her OWN children in an attempt to fight Steven. While they were clearly intended to be villains, that alone doesn't put up the fact that they murdered millions of their own citizens, corrupted their minds, and used their OWN corpses in order to destroy one of thousands of planets they had already annihilated for resources. During the Human Zoo arc, they are depicted as being torn up for their sisters's (faked) death, and somehow depicted as sympathetic by the show, including Yellow Diamond, who is still a completely and utterly emotionally dead psychopath. It gets worse with White Diamond, who was advertised up to this point as being a Complete Monster in tier with Ragyo Kuryuin, who is explicitly meant to draw up comparisons to nazi white supremacy, and imprisoned her youngest daughter for decades at a time. Then, after nearly killing him, Steven convinces her to drop all the horrible, repulsive things she's done because she blushed a different color, revealing herself to be a hypocrite. She goes completely back on her word and willingly turns Homeworld into a republic solely because of this, and is depicted as an adorably doting grandmother for Steven in the movie. Needless to say, a lot of fans were absolutely outraged at how easily the show had rehabilitated a horrible dictator, since Jasper and Lars had been depicted as being far more realistically in that regard.
I toned down some of complaining, but I question if it's an example given it's a notoriously controversial issue. I believe it's misused (at least as written) as this trope must explain why they were supposed to be seen as sympathetic despite the circumstances . Those traits are why they were supposed be be unsympathetic as villain until they begin to redeem themselves. It's just complaining about being Easily Forgiven. From my limited understanding of the series it sounds like it exaggerating their negative personality traits.
I've asked Unintentionally Unsympathetic cleanup but it's been inactive for the last few days and this looks like a big contentious issue.
Edited by Ferot_DreadnaughtopenIs this an edit war (hypothetically)?
For instance, let's say I'm editing a page for a show called Alice and Bob. I add an example like this:
- Big Friendly Dog: Fido is a Great Dane and very friendly, as demonstrated in "The Episode" where he lets Amy sleep next to him.
Another troper then comes along and adds, '...and in "Another Episode", where he licks Alice's face."
However, I've seen that episode and know that it was actually Bob whose face got licked by Fido, so I edit "Alice's" to "Bob's", with the Edit Reason: "It was Bob who got licked by Fido".
Would that be an Edit War?
openPurpose of Square Peg Round Trope examples?
For what reason on Square Peg, Round Trope are examples of tropes being misused listed? It kind of reminds me of similar pages like License to Whine, which listed tropes that attracted complaining (when said tropes should instead go through TRS to get the problem solved).
open Animated/CG mini series and a "mon" toys and cartoon. Western Animation
I had been thinking about for quite sometime but couldn't remember their name.
The first one is a 2D/3D animated mini series about 2 students and a I.T teacher discover bug like creatures in a cyber space in their computer. They can have them battle and even one is blasted to pieces revive after the fight. I.T teacher invite a mobile device which the students can check and battle each other.
The second is difficult to remember but I can gather is about a group of protagonists hunting these animals that have been mutate by what I presume to be extraterrestrial virus. They can even use them to fight against other group that to use them to conquer the world. One of the protagonists had this mutant polar bear with icicles for spikes and claws. The same protagonist had a Dad, who I think is studying whatever mutate the animals. I think that they had a toy of different creatures each inside a cylinder shaped container.
I understand that it might be difficult to understand but this is all I can remember.
openCut RL examples from Fun T-Shirt?
The Real Life section for Fun T-Shirt seems like People Sit on Chairs. Should it be removed from the page?
openQuestionable edits in YMMV.Arknights Videogame
So to give context to the YMMV edits I want to discuss, Arknights is a work where the primary conflict centers around fighting the Reunion Movement, a group angrily lashing out at the world governments for treating people infected with the fantasy disease as lower-class citizens and/or outright inhuman. So there's an entry on the page for Applicability as to how it can be interpreted as analogous to real life politics.
It goes on into a tangent about their aesthetic, which is debatably comparable to real life movements.
And DeadmansHand92x45 added their response to the entry in the middle (which seems like a definite violation by having Conversation in the Main Page)
The part of the entry they're responding to
Deadmans Hand92x 45's addition
Their objection is very politically charged in what they're saying and I'm not really sure how to handle this, other than removing all the tangents altogether, so asking here for feedback.
Edited by NouctopenYMMV.Roblox covering controversies surrounding users/their creations
YMMV.Roblox has several entries that aren't about Roblox as a whole, but rather individual user creations or the users themselves. Now Roblox is pretty much a gaming platform in its current evolved state and only a few of the created games have individual pages, so I assume that the YMMV page is considered the best place to put reactions to individual stuff without a page... except a lot are placed in rather unflattering tropes like It's Hard, So It Sucks! and Overshadowed by Controversy with these often being the only places where those games or users are discussed on the page (i.e. Rogue Lineage is only discussed in It's Hard, So It Sucks! while Jailbreak at least gets two other mentions elsewhere that don't feel like people trying to complain). The Overshadowed by Controversy entries in particular feel kind of dubious to me because I'm unsure about if certain things being overshadowed in a gaming platform that is remembered for far more than any controversies is valid or not (and while the Ready Player One event was an official game-wide thing rather than a user creation, its entry feels a little questionable too since everyone forgot about it like a month later and r0cu isn't dead since his last Twitter post was 15 hours before this post). I've been doing edits on Roblox's YMMV page for a while now to add audience reactions (often not my own, but rather the views of others) about game-wide things and to change some stuff that felt like blatant complaining, but I don't know what to do here because most of the views are valid and would be fine on pages devoted to them, but they might not belong on a page covering an entire gaming platform as opposed to individual games. What do you guys think?
openHypocrite vs Moral Myopia
What is the distinction between Hypocrite and Moral Myopia? My impression is:
- Moral Myopia is only for villains, their hypocrisy being intentional to establish we’re supposed to dislike them.
- Moral Dissonance is for heroes Unintentionally Unsympathetic as their hypocrites are unintentional due to bad writing.
So is Hypocrite for examples not reprehensible enough to make them villains but too minor and/or deliberate to fall under Dissonance?
Is Hypocrite like Jerkass where it should only be used if it’s sub-tropes don’t fit?
openGirl Genius Webcomic
On the work page of Girl Genius, there was this line in the description:
"Look over the Girl Genius character sheet, or talk about the comic in our discussion forum for Girl Genius."
I removed the link to the character sheet, as it's redundant and I was told they have to be removed; however, what's the deal with the link to the forums? Is that allowed? I'm asking because Girl Genius seems to be very popoular on TV Tropes (over 3000 wicks and Image Source for 36 tropes) so I'm not understanding if that link to the forum is something that kept going past the radar for years, or it was allowed by someone.
openSouth Park character pages
In the South Park character sheet, 10 characters have their own separate pages and most of them are not very long, especially secondary characters like Wendy. But even of the main characters, only Cartman's page seems long enough to be separate from the other characters. Do we really need single pages for all these characters?
openOkay to remove links of works that don't have a page yet?
I remember reading somewhere in Administrivia that it was okay so have them, since it invites other contributors to create the page. But I've seen editors removing them giving the reason that "the page doesn't exist".
Edited by matruzopenwhat variety of Playing With a Trope?
Not sure if there's a dedicated place to ask about Playing with a Trope examples.
From Save the Villain:
- Lampshaded in Digger, during the troll bridge story, when Digger saves the at-the-time antagonistic Grim Eyes from falling off said bridge.
Digger: Now, I could probably work up a good explanation for why I caught the hyena, who had, after all, been trying to kill me for awhile now. I could tell you that I was hoping to earn her gratitude, or point out that Surka was still attached to her ankle. These are all good and valid reasons. The fact is, though, that when people fall off cliffs, you grab for them. It's just a reflex.
Is it lampshaded, discussed, both, or other?
openUh... Two things Videogame
On the Pyramid Head section on Silent Hill, The Anti-Villain section has a point of "He's still plenty hostile towards him, though, and if one is to follow the interpretation of him found here, he's certainly malicious as well." This reads like 'this theory is canon', which is generally looked down upon, and I still want to remove the intrerpretation bit since it feel like it doesn't belong. Should I remove? I'm not sure that he's totally malicious, since he's a manifestation of James' guilt and sense for justice and guides him along throughout the game, this is even furthered at how you can just ignore PH on his boss fights for a few minutes then he leaves or kill himself.
On the Humans are White section on Frost Punk: "Not only is every human in the game white, but almost all of them are British. The only exceptions are the handful of Americans who survived the fall of Tesla City and the Norwegian Fridtjof Nansen. Perhaps justified because all but one of the Generators was built by the British Empire, which in real life was quite racist and willing to sacrifice its non-white subjects when expedient. " The bolded section isn't about the game, like it's trying to bring up sensitive subjects just because. Should I remove?
Edited by RaddishesopenProblematic Troper
So, jtolbert8831 just put Black Comedy Rape on the cutlist with the reasoning that "rape isn't funny". I want to say they're new, but they're not; they've been editing sporadically since '15, though those edits contain issues such as Indentation, dodgy grammar, ZCE's]... and all I did was scratch the surface of their history.
I could send a notifier, but they've had five years to learn the ropes; I doubt sending a PM will fix it now.
Edit: As mentioned in the comments, they've been habitually deleting examples without reason, as well.
Edited by WarJay77
I'm trying to do cross wink links for The Webcomic Muted. I'm trying to put a link under the abusive parents page, but even though I put the title in like the other entries, it doesnt like to Muted's tv tropes page. What am I missing? https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/AbusiveParents/WebComics