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openEdit war
On this page, deerhornsaresopretty added an entry for The Wiki Rule. After it was removed by a different troper for being a definition-only page (meaning that it's not allowed to have trope entries about it), deerhornsaresopretty added it back.
Edited by UFOYeahopenVandal messing with kids' shows again Western Animation
TearJerker.Peppa Pig was just made by Jakob10 that consists of "*Mummy Rabbit sprained her ankle. *Mummy Sheep has a cough."
openEdit warring
On Super Mario Galaxy, SeaMonkey851 has changed the game's genre from Platform Game to Action-Adventure. This is the second time they do this, after I had reverted it since all official sources describe the game as a 3D Platformer instead of action-adventure. They also extended this wonk to the Action-Adventure index, as seen here (where they also listed other 3D Mario games which, again, are officially described as Platformers).
I'm writing this query to ask for permission to revert the edit once again, and ideally to also remove the games from the AA index.
openWeird Edit Removal Reason Western Animation
On YMMV.Dexters Laboratory Walt K removed this entry
- Self-Fanservice:
- Dexter and Mandark get a lot of this in fanart.
- Dee Dee gets her fair share of this, especially when most artists think she'll take after her mom. It doesn't help that Dexter once described Dee Dee as "her hips a bit meaty".
they removed it with the edit reason "inappropriate" (presumably meaning "sexualizing characters from a children’s series is inappropriate")
Whether you agree with them or not, YMMV is just troping Audience Reactions, and we’ve had other Self-Fanservice entries from kids shows. Even if it is "inappropriate" we’re just troping what fans believe. Is this ok, or should I add it back?
openAvoiding an EditWar
Troper bloodraven117 deleted several entries on the Mythos Effect page on the basis that they are "Non-canon omakes". However, all of them are listed as canon side stories on Space Battles. I can't re-add since I'm the original poster, and when I reached out to bloodraven, all I got in over three weeks was "They aren't on the FanFiction.Net version, and tropers who come from FFN will be rightly confused about where they are in the story".
To me, this seems... not our problem I guess is how I'd put it. We have a link to the version of the story that includes those entries so their should be no problem in including them on the tvtropes page, right?
openVIdeo uploading has become fast
I am impressed with the upload speed of videos now. Did we switch to a new server?
openPeter and Company: No image discussion before replacement Webcomic
So...The author of Peter and Company, who goes by the username PeterAndCompany, just picked a new image to replace the current one without going to Image Pickin' first for any sort of discussion. I've already sent them a notifier with nothing else written on the matter.
Three questions for the community (forgot to edit this bit when I added a third, oops):
1. Does this fall under a violation of Auto-Erotic Troping?
2. Is there a cleanup thread for that sort of thing?
3. Am I allowed to remove it?
Edited by Stardust5099openAdding "the one where" lines to Star Trek: TNG recaps. Live Action TV
I've always enjoyed the "the one where/with" lines at the beginning of pages for Rocky, James Bond and Star Trek films, as well as Doctor Who episode recaps. I'd like to add some examples to TNG recaps, can I just dive right in and do it? Or do I need to get clearance from mods, or request permission in a Trope Workshop first?
Thanks.
Edited by 773202lunaopenIs there any parameter for text under headers to be put in folders?
This is a question that popped on my mind when I was doing some structuring on the The Amazing Digital Circus pages. Specifically, when I put the "General" section of the newly-created Alternative Character Interpretation in a folder (to go in tandem with the folders in the "Episodes" section) among some cleanup, I went to check if any other pages had some sections with folders and others without them, I found the Heartwarming page, which had its "Misc." section without a folder; I attempted to put it in a folder, only to notice upon looking in the page's history that Shanwoo 444 (the same troper who created the Alternative Character Interpretation) had already done that before only to quickly remove it as they were creating folders for each episode under the "Episodes" header, at which I quickly reverted the changes (initially because I mis-read the entries for a moment and thought I added the "Misc." folder myself, meaning that I could have started an edit war, but I sticked to what I did anyway after seeing I didn't just in case).
What I'm asking is, in pages pertaining to examples of a trope in a specific work that use folders and headers at the same time, should folders only be used as further subsections for headers that have distinctive aspects separating the examples (e.g. the episode it takes place in), or is a single folder acceptable for any header regardless of how the distinction between its examples or even its length (as the Misc. section in the Heartwarming page is rather short with only two examples)? Shanwoo 444 and I seem to have rather different ways of organizing pages like these, given how I prefer to put everything in folders to keep things neat whereas they are fine with leaving headings without folders unless they address things such as episodes. I'm not really sure if there's any rule or recommendation addressed in the Administrivia pages on how to handle folders in this situation, and I'm asking this just to be safe on what to do.
openCan Complete Monsters/Magnificent Bastards, etc go in Just For Fun?
I recently created a JFF page for a fictional show meant to be like Tales From the Crypt known as Symphony in Black, meant to be adapted from some of EC Comics. I noticed an MB entry of EC Comics' YMMV page, and said character would appear in Symphony In-Universe. Would I be able to do something like that on the page, or do those only apply to real works?
openAlternate Aesop Interpretation
Is it just me or does the good chunk of the main entries read like citationless Unfortunate Implications? Like this example on-page: " [...]What it ended up implying was that it's important for a woman to be passive and delicate so as not to hurt her boyfriend or husband's ego, or that if her partner cheats, it's her fault for being too outspoken and/or not passive enough. It also implies that a woman, no matter how knowledgeable about how to "slay the dragon" she may be, needs a man to solve all her problems for her." or "[...]Grand personal sacrifices for others - including, but not limited to, literal suicide - are totally cool as long as you don't want anything in return."
Edited by inbeforedashopenTeam-Up Series question
I’m having an issue regarding Team-Up Series. Apparently the trope is only used when one character teams up with another character each issue/episode, not the same person throughout the series.
My question is even if it’s the same person would being a team up still count? For example Superman/Batman. The series is a literal team-up between Superman and Batman, but doesn’t fit the team-up series trope. Is a second trope for when the main draw of a series is that two characters are teaming up?
openAvoiding an edit war Anime
On Trivia.My New Boss Is Goofy, I added a Creator's Oddball entry but part of it was changed by Damolisher with this edit reason:
For context, MNBIG is targeted for young girls (IE shojo), so demographic wise it is indeed a shojo. However, I don't want to cause an edit war so asking here.
openCharacters page for Warcraft NPC species? Videogame
Wondering if it'd be reasonable to create a Characters page for NPC species in the Warcraft franchise. We of course already have pages for the playable factions, but the franchise has a number of species introduced at every expansion with their own themes, story beats and quirks. It would inevitably be a rather big page (probably big enough to be split in some way; something to think about if we decide to do it), but we honestly have similarly large pages for NPC's in other fantasy franchises (see the NPC pages for Dungeons and Dragons or Pathfinder, for example), so I don't think extent alone should be seen as a reason NOT do to it.
Should we do it, we'd also have to think about maybe reworking some already-existing pages; the page for Pandaria, for instance, alredy brings some entries on NPC races introduced in the Mists of Pandaria expansion. Those entries should maybe be moved.
Alternatively, we could create individual pages for characters introduced in each expansion, listing significant NPC's and having entries for the species there instead. "Big" characters (i.e. cosmic entities) could be kept separate, as they already are, but we add entries for every new species on their corresponding expansion page.
Edited by ZeroCCOopenUnilateral warning
- CartoonLGBTfanofallTime: has added the Frollo example (2022)
- SpaceProtagonist: Removed with odd edit reason (2024)
- Slmfe0171 (Sayaka sock): Restored with odd edit reason
- Ferot_Dreadnaught: Reverted ban-evader's edit.
- Uenii (Sayaka sock): Restored
- CartoonLGBTfanofallTime: Added very specific warning that reads like invalid mini-modding
- StalkerGamer: Removes citing a discussion (aside technically reverting a ban-evader's edit)
- CartoonLGBTfanofallTime: Makes a false CV report accusing StalkerGamer of edit war, then finds the discussion, showing some misunderstanding regarding Hate Sink.
May not be violations individually, and the Hate Sink thread will likely decline it, I find the focus on this one example concerning, so recording for future reference.
openQuestion
What is it called when dialogue in fiction differs from dialogue in real life, such as how fictional people can talk without having to deliberate on their thoughts or pause etc, whereas in real life people generally don't have such an easy time elucidating their thoughts? I remember coming across a page on this wiki describing the fundamental differences between those things.
The author of Peter and Company, who goes by the username PeterAndCompany, I'm pretty sure just violated The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours and Auto-Erotic Troping.
I quote the following from the former:
Nowhere have I seen the author do this at all; as far as I can tell, they also did not go to any of the cleanup pages. They instead gave a lengthy edit reason stating that they are the author in an attempt to justify their vandalism of the page, which as Edit War states, is not sufficient discussion; Essentially he is trying to claim ownership of the page.
He has also gone on the trivia page and the YMMV page to do the exact same thing, moreso with the latter especially on parts that have to do with the main webcomic itself, and has also engaged in Auto-Erotic Troping on this paticular edit and possibly the Main page. Admin has not indicated to me that he had the permission needed to take down what I wrote or the right to make the edits he made (the latter of which had nothing to do with removing misinformation on the Trivia page) either, so I'm on high alert with this.
He has also done the following which is something authors are not supposed to do, especially in regard to YMMV. I quote the following:
I am open to input from the community and admin on this matter as to what can, should, or if anything can be done.
Edited by Stardust5099