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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

AmazingCartoonHero Since: Jan, 2019
#5751: May 16th 2019 at 10:04:20 PM

  • Oblivious to Hatred: While Prince Wu is a rather sweet person and genuinely friendly, who consider New Team Avatar (Korra, Asami, and Mako) the best friends he has. However Wu bratty, ditsy, and overtly flirtatious attitude makes it hard for them to do more than tolerate him. And it seem Wu in the dark on how his behavior annoys them. He does gets better as the season progresses. And by the end of the season Mako and Korra have warmed up to him and are proud of his decision to dissolve the monarchy.

  • Summer Camp Island Betsy Spellman
  • The Friend Nobody Likes: At least amongst the counselors. Since Betsy is the nicest, she is the one who stops Susie and Alice from overdoing it, much to Susie's displeasure. Downplayed as Alice does not seem to care when she stop her from overseeing it and despite Susie dislike of Betsy stopping her from going too far, she still cares for Betsy.
Susie: You know, sometimes I really hate you, Betsy...

  • ParaNorman Courtney Babcock
  • Aloof Big Sister: At the beginning of the movie Courtney was at first uncaring and aloof to her brother Norman and is not above mocking him and trying to prove he's a liar. She still try to search for him with he was missing and show genuine concern when it look like he was in danger. She finally drop being aloof when she saw his ability to see the dead is real and being to realize how much pain he is in for being a outcast, becoming kinder and more supporting to her brother.
  • Jerkass Realization: Implied When Norman lash out and yelling at his friends (out of frustration) to get out when searching for Agatha's records. When he rant on how Courtney never listen to him and no one listen to him, and how everyone thinks he a freak. While she did leave, after seeing him endanger she because more kind and supporting to Nornam, implying she realizing how much pain he was in when he was a outcast and now she want to help him.
  • Took a Level in Kindness: At the beginning of the movie Courtney was a bratty teenage girl who was aloof and uncaring to her brother Norman, and is not above mocking him and trying to prove he's a liar. In the middle the film when she see her his ability to see the dead, and realize how much pain he is in for being a outcast, and see his life in danger becoming kinder, more supporting to her brother, and protective of him. Willing to but herself between her little brother and the mob that want to kill him.

  • Harbinger (Finmonster) (Danny Phantom, ParaNorman)
  • Adaptational Angst Upgrade: Downplayed and Inverted with Norman Babcock and Mr. Prenderghast.
    • Like in canon Norman is a outcast because of his ability to see the dead. But in this story it appear that he has a much more closer relationship with his family then in the beginning of the film, with his sister Courtney being more kinder and closer to him then in the film beginning.
    • Like in canon Mr. Prenderghast is a outcast in the community and estrange from his family, however his friendship with Stan Pines implies that he is not completely along like he was in the films.

  • ''My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (IDW)
  • Harsher in Hindsight: In My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Comic Book Issue 74 when Zephyr Breeze appear he and Fluttershy's relationship seems to be much better than it was previously, with the two having affectionate nicknames for each other and playfully joking around. She even calmly helps pull him out of a panic attack. Come Season 8 episode "Sparkle's Seven" when Fluttershy mention him to Spike, she said that he (Zephyr) could learn a lot from Spike about being a good little brother.

Edited by AmazingCartoonHero on May 16th 2019 at 11:52:13 AM

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#5752: May 17th 2019 at 5:24:27 PM

Kingdom Hearts III:

  • Layman's Terms: Twice towards Sora, due to him being somewhat mentally-challenged in certain areas.

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#5753: May 17th 2019 at 5:41:38 PM

Kingdom Hearts III:

AM_NK Since: Sep, 2009
#5754: May 17th 2019 at 7:47:33 PM

Requesting help again!

I was going to add the following entry to Trivia.Unreal Tournament:

  • Sleeper Hit: The previous game was released to a modest success after three years of development. While it was lauded by its gorgeous landscapes and an intriguing plot that managed to subvert A Space Marine Is You, it was launched in 1998, a year with plenty of notable releases in the First-Person Shooter genre (most notably Quake II, Si N and especially that year's Game of the Year, Half-Life), plus its multiplayer mode was riddled with a lot of technical problems. So an Expansion Pack began development, only for the devs to realize that it would be better if said pack was released instead as a standalone game. It eventually took the form of this game, one of the two games (the other being its rival, id Software's Quake III: Arena) that would create such an impact, they managed to switch the focus from single-player adventure-based to multiplayer-based.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5755: May 17th 2019 at 10:19:48 PM

[up] x 7 @gc10

The author stated that he made the game mostly out of boredom, only for himself and some friends, and updated it online because he hoped to entertain some more people. He never expected the game to become so popular in Italy and abroad, especially considering the game is mostly based on inside-jokes about Italian trash and pop culture, that are totally incomprehensible by foreigners.

discharged weapons or the names (?) of other weapon slots

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5756: May 17th 2019 at 10:28:52 PM

[up] x 6 @neosspeer

Lion El’Jonson hasn’t left Cysgorog since the end of the Heresy. <- period

Azrael’s memories have been constantly modified by Tzeentch’s will since

Murdered Khalida to allow for the Black Crusade to enter

Belial wields the Sword of Silence. <- period This blade projects a field around him that nullifies psychic phenomena.

^ This was a run-on sentence connected together with a comma splice.

The Sword that was Promised is Anathema to all Daemons. <- period By passing it to Lorgar, he purged the Ouroboros’s shard from his body, dying in the process. <- period

^ See above.

into searching for his cousin

by the time of Lion’s arrival on Caliban

battle with the Ouroboros resulted in wounds that hadn’t fully healed by the time of Lion’s arrival on Caliban.

full might during his battle, <- delete extra comma he

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5757: May 17th 2019 at 10:59:57 PM

[up] x 6 @Amazing Cartoon Hero

While Prince Wu is a rather sweet person and genuinely friendly, who considers New Team Avatar (Korra, Asami, and Mako) the best friends he has. However, <- comma Wu's bratty, ditsy, and overtly flirtatious attitude makes it hard for them to do more than tolerate him. And It seems Wu is in the dark on how his behavior annoys them. He does get better as the season progresses. And By the end of the season, <- comma Mako and Korra have warmed up to him and are proud of his decision to dissolve the monarchy.

Downplayed, <- comma as Alice does not seem to care when she stops her from overseeing it and despite Susie's dislike of Betsy's stopping her from going too far, she still cares for Betsy.

At the beginning of the movie, <- comma Courtney is at first uncaring and aloof to her brother Norman and is not above mocking him and trying to prove he's a liar. She still tries to search for him when he is missing and shows genuine concern when it looks like he is in danger. She finally drops being aloof when she realizes his ability to see the dead is real and being to realizes how much pain he is in for being a outcast, becoming kinder and more supporting to him.

Implied when Norman lashes out and yells at his friends (out of frustration) to get out when searching for Agatha's records. When He rants about how Courtney never listens to him and no one else listens to him, and how everyone thinks he's a freak. While she did leave, after seeing him endanger himself she becomes more kind and supporting to Norman, implying she realizes how much pain he is in when he was a outcast and now she wants to help him.

At the beginning of the movie, <- comma Courtney is a bratty teenage girl who is aloof and uncaring to her brother Norman, and is not above mocking him and trying to prove he's a liar. In the middle the film, <- comma when she notices his ability to see the dead, and realizes how much pain he is in for being a outcast, and sees his life in danger, <- comma she becomes kinder, more supporting to her brother, and protective of him, <- comma willing to put herself between her little brother and the mob that wants to kill him.

Like in canon, <- comma Norman is a outcast because of his ability to see the dead, <- comma but in this story it appears that he has a much more closer relationship with his family than in the beginning of the film, with his sister Courtney being more kinder and closer to him than in the film's beginning.

Like in canon, <- comma Mr. Prenderghast is a outcast in the community and estranged from his family, however his friendship with Stan Pines implies that he is not completely alone like he was in the films.

In My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (IDW) comic book issue 74, <- comma when Zephyr Breeze appears, <- comma he and Fluttershy's relationship seems to be much better than it was previously, with the two having affectionate nicknames for each other and playfully joking around. She even calmly helps pull him out of a panic attack. Come Season 8 episode "Sparkle's Seven" when Fluttershy mentions him to Spike, she says that he (Zephyr) could learn a lot from Spike about being a good little brother.

Edited by Arivne on May 17th 2019 at 11:01:42 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5758: May 17th 2019 at 11:06:33 PM

[up] x 6, 5 @jahman

Twice towards Sora, due to him being somewhat mentally challenged in certain areas.

As the series staple, and it's upgraded to not require MP.

^ Both of these are Zero Context Examples. They need more information to show how they fit the trope. Warning: using Zero Context Examples can result in being suspended from editing.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5759: May 17th 2019 at 11:11:33 PM

[up] x 5 @AM_NK

The previous game was released to a modest success after three years of development. While it was lauded for its gorgeous landscapes and an intriguing plot that managed to subvert A Space Marine Is You, it was launched in 1998, a year with plenty of notable releases in the First-Person Shooter genre (most notably Quake II, Si N and especially that year's Game of the Year, Half-Life), plus its multiplayer mode was riddled with a lot of technical problems. So an Expansion Pack began development, only for the devs to realize that it would be better if said pack were released instead as a standalone game.

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#5760: May 18th 2019 at 2:18:30 AM

The examples were meant to be intros to other examples.

gc10 Human Bean from Pastastastan Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Human Bean
#5761: May 19th 2019 at 1:02:42 AM

Thanks Arvine.

About that passage, I've rewritten it to make it more clear:

  • Dummied Out: If the cheat for obtaining every weapon is used, there will be a Slot 0 section containing both discharged weapons that normally can't be found, or the same weapons found in other slots, although with wrong names.

Mekal Since: Dec, 2010
#5762: May 19th 2019 at 3:23:34 AM

(Add request)

For Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled :

  • Anti-Frustration Features : In addition to the two HU Ds from the original game, there is a third, original one that takes the form of a longer, bigger gauge for the sliding boost mechanic, making it easier to gauge (pun intended) when to trigger the boost.

For DuckTales (2017) , in the "The Duck Knight Returns! " folder, in the "Launchpad's attempts at being sneaky during his bid to infiltrate the replacement actor's trailer. All of them." paragraph :

  • And then Launchpad locks the trailer, and him and the actor come to blows:
Launchpad: I just wanna fix the movie to make Darkwing look like a hero!
Actor: Oh, so what, you're gonna hold me hostage?! Yeah, real heroic.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5763: May 19th 2019 at 7:58:06 PM

^

In addition to the two HUDs ({{HUD}}s) from the original game, there is a third, original one that takes the form of a longer, bigger gauge for the sliding boost mechanic, making it easier to gauge (pun intended) when to trigger the boost.

And then Launchpad locks the trailer, and he and the actor come to blows:

Edited by Arivne on May 19th 2019 at 7:58:39 AM

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#5764: May 20th 2019 at 9:22:49 AM

Update Request for EpilepticTrees.Love Live

(Non-italicized lines is where you should place the info)

  • The main cast singing "Bokura no Hashittekita Michi wa..." might have made everyone believe that they pulled a SUNNY DAY SONG way too early.
  • Since the UTX High School only shows the cafeteria interior in the whole anime series, some of them might have doubt that UTX is actually a coffee shop in disguise and not a school at all.
  • The reveal of the 5th Live on June 8-9, 2019 made some of them assume that this was Aqours' Final Live.

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#5765: May 20th 2019 at 9:28:28 AM

Also, Grammar Fix request for the said page I mentioned above: From:

  • Many believe that the 2 generic girls in the second season's 12th Episode is actually a hint of a new character for the future sequels.

  • The main cast singing "Bokura no Hashittekita Michi wa..." might had made everyone believe that they pulled a SUNNY DAY SONG way too early.

    • Before its premiere; many of the fans are currently debating on whether the mysterious character is an actual boy or a tomboyish girl, while others assumed that this was probably one of the girls' tomboyish mother, or one of her swimming teachers. Presumably jossed as one fan speculates that this was very likely to be one of You Watanabe's classmates from primary school.

To:

  • Many believe that the 2 generic girls in the second season's 12th Episode are actually a hint of a new character for the future sequels.

  • The main cast singing "Bokura no Hashittekita Michi wa..." might have made everyone believe that they pulled a SUNNY DAY SONG way too early.

    • Before its premiere; many of the fans are currently debating on whether the mysterious character is an actual boy or a tomboyish girl, while others assumed that this was probably one of the girls' tomboyish mother or one of her swimming teachers. Presumably jossed as one fan speculates that this was very likely to be one of You Watanabe's classmates from primary school.

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#5766: May 20th 2019 at 8:52:01 PM

Character page update request: Characters.Love Live

Nozomi Tojo's folder:

  • Does Not Like Men: Downplayed, as she is repeatedly transferred from different schools and developed love divinations, which also causes her not to develop a crush on any man.

Reference

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#5767: May 21st 2019 at 3:47:01 PM

Star Wars Characters: Galactic Empire

Admiral Gable Karius

Voice Actor: Steve Blum

"Do not anger Vader."

Appears in Vader Immortal an Episodic VR game. He is the one who captures the player and brings them to Vader's Castle on Mustafar.

  • Affably Evil: Warns you not to tempt Vader's wrath. He still expects you to inevitably fail in the task his Sith superior gives you. False Reassurance At least he promises you a merciful death afterwords. Fortunately you prove him wrong.

  • Badass Baritone: Just look who voices him.

  • Hollywood Cyborg: His right arm is robotic and the left side of his mug is covered in metal.

  • The Dragon: To another Dragon. Make no mistake though, this is the heart of Vader's domain and the hierarchy here has him squarely at the top.

Edited by Avenger09 on May 25th 2019 at 12:36:32 PM

kokoroanime Derek McDouglas from Mobile, Alabama Since: Jan, 2012
Derek McDouglas
#5768: May 21st 2019 at 8:03:28 PM

Arthur (PBS Television show)

Internet Backdraft: Let's just say that the internet and the LBGTQ community aren't happy with the 22nd season premiere episode being banned from a statewide PBS network in Alabama due to featuring gay couples as well as a gay wedding.

Edited by kokoroanime on May 21st 2019 at 10:03:56 AM

AmazingCartoonHero Since: Jan, 2019
#5769: May 21st 2019 at 10:34:57 PM

  • Vlad Masters/Plasmius
  • Freudian Excuse Is No Excuse: Vlad Masters starts out with a rather sympathetic backstory and an almost understandable motivation: Jack, through sheer idiocy, caused an accident that sent Vlad to the hospital for years, costing Vlad's chance at Maddie, who ended up marrying Jack. But thought out the series his excuse was torn apart and destroy. First his attempt to kill Jack and take Danny and Maddie as his son and wife was never treated as sympathetic or right, while Jack did cause the accident that sent Vlad to the hospital for years, he generally feel bad for what happen, and went to be friends again, Jack thought of him as a friend unaware how much Vlad hated and resent him for stealing Maddie. Even those he got powers from the accident that he has no problem to use for selfish means, becoming the riches men in the world. Second at first Maddie treated him him pretty nicely and view him as a friend until he told her that until learning he had always had a thing for her and blames Jack for "stealing" her. When he asks her to dump Jack and marry him, she was disgusted of his hate for Jack and that he thought she was leave Jack for him and she's treated him with disdain ever since. Finally the episode "Masters of All Time" destroy his excuse, in a alternate timeline where he didn't get the powers but married Maddie, Vlad still grew up to become the same controlling and domineering sociopath seen in the present timeline. A flashback to the accident show that Vlad was already was jealous of Maddie feeling for Jack who was completely oblivious to his interests and was either interested in Jack or dating him. And at first it appear that Vlad and Maddie were happily married, only for it to be revealed that Vlad is overly controlling and possessive of Maddie, even having forbidden her from pursuing ghost hunting, and had lied to her, saying that Jack (who had suffered the ecto-acne accident in this timeline), didn't want anything to do with her. Maddie, unwilling to give up her life's work, resorted to ghost-hunting behind his back, clearly resenting him for it. Showing in the end Vlad just a selfish men who lashing out for not getting what he wants.

Momochi from Japan Since: Jan, 2011
#5770: May 22nd 2019 at 4:54:19 AM

For Career-Ending Injury:

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#5771: May 22nd 2019 at 9:40:18 AM

[up][up][up][up]

Appears in Vader Immortal, an episodic VR game. He is the one who captures the player and brings them to Vader's Castle on Mustafar.

The last one isn't an example, I think (and ZCE at that), so I have left that one out.

[up][up][up] Is there any way that can be shortened? That's a lot of text.

Vlad Masters starts out with a rather sympathetic backstory and an almost understandable motivation: Jack, through sheer idiocy, caused an accident that sent Vlad to the hospital for years, costing Vlad's chance to court Maddie, who ended up marrying Jack. Over the series, his excuse has worn thin. First, while Jack did cause the accident that sent Vlad to the hospital for years, he feels bad for what happened and wants to be friends again, unaware of Vlad's hatred of him. Second, Maddie initially treated him nicely and viewed him as a friend until he told her that he always had a thing for her and blames Jack for "stealing" her. When he asks her to dump Jack and marry him, she's disgusted. His attempt to kill Jack and take Danny and Maddie as his son and wife was never treated as sympathetic or right. Finally, the episode "Masters of All Time" establishes that he has no justification for his actions: in an alternate timeline where he didn't get powers but married Maddie, Vlad still becomes the same controlling and domineering sociopath seen in the present timeline. A flashback to the accident shows that Vlad was already was jealous of Maddie having feelings for Jack. While Vlad and Maddie seem to be happily married at first, it's revealed that Vlad is overly controlling and possessive of Maddie, even forbidding her from pursuing ghost hunting and lying to her about Jack not wanting anything to do with her. Maddie, unwilling to give up her life's work, resorted to ghost-hunting behind Vlad's back, clearly resenting him for it. In the end, Vlad is just a selfish man who lashes out when he doesn't get what he wants.

Edited by Tabs on May 22nd 2019 at 10:00:04 AM

FigureGunplaFan Since: Oct, 2013
#5772: May 22nd 2019 at 11:48:22 AM

Update request for YMMV.Bang Dream:

(Bold lines are new info)

  • Memetic Badass:
    • Like several fathers from Love Live!, many of the main female characters' dads are also this.
    • Because of Marina being traditionally animated in the second season's 2nd episode, many fans believe that she doesn't need to be animated with cel-shaded CG to be truly perfect by her own.

Note: also need to change from 1. "believed" to "believe" 2. "doesn't need to have a cel-shaded" to "doesn't need to be animated with cel-shaded CG"

Edited by FigureGunplaFan on May 23rd 2019 at 2:50:16 AM

Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#5773: May 22nd 2019 at 11:54:40 AM

It's grammatically correct, but I don't know why animation style qualifies a character for memetic badassery, and the new addition is ZCE.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5774: May 22nd 2019 at 12:05:24 PM

[up] x 6 @kokoroanime

PBS television show

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5775: May 22nd 2019 at 12:26:46 PM

[up] x 6 @Amazing Cartoon Hero

This is a gigantic Wall of Text with a lot of information that has nothing to do with the trope. It must be cut down to only what is needed to show that the example fits the trope. You really need to read How to Write an Example - Keep it Brief before you post here again.

After you improve your English enough and the moderators restore your posting privileges, if you insist on adding bloated examples like this, you may be suspended from editing again for violating that rule.

Changed verbs from past to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

Vlad Masters starts out with a rather sympathetic backstory and an almost understandable motivation: Jack, through sheer idiocy, caused an accident that sent Vlad to the hospital for years, costing Vlad his chance at Maddie, who ended up marrying Jack. However, throughout the series his excuse is torn apart and destroyed. First, <- comma his attempt to kill Jack and take Danny and Maddie as his son and wife are never treated as sympathetic or right. <- period While Jack did cause the accident that sent Vlad to the hospital for years, he generally feels bad for what happened, and wants to be friends again. <- period Jack thinks of him as a friend, <- comma unaware how much Vlad hates and resents him for stealing Maddie, <- comma even though Vlad got powers from the accident that he has no problem using for selfish means, becoming the richest man in the world. Second, <- comma at first Maddie treats Vlad pretty nicely and views him as a friend until he tells her that until learning he has always had a thing for her and blames Jack for "stealing" her. When he asks her to dump Jack and marry him, she is disgusted at his hate for Jack and that he thought she would leave Jack for him, <- comma and she's treated him with disdain ever since. Finally, <- comma the episode "Masters of All Time" destroys his excuse. <- period In a alternate timeline where he didn't get the powers but married Maddie, Vlad still grew up to become the same controlling and domineering sociopath seen in the present timeline. A flashback to the accident shows that Vlad was already was jealous of Maddie's feelings for Jack and her being completely oblivious to his interest in her and being either interested in Jack or dating him. And At first it appears that Vlad and Maddie are happily married, only for it to be revealed that Vlad is overly controlling and possessive of Maddie, even having forbidden her from pursuing ghost hunting, and lying to her, saying that Jack (who had suffered the ecto-acne accident in this timeline) <- no comma didn't want anything to do with her. Maddie, unwilling to give up her life's work, resorting to ghost-hunting behind his back, clearly resenting him for it, <- comma showing that in the end, <- comma Vlad is just a selfish man who lashes out for not getting what he wants.

Edited by Arivne on May 22nd 2019 at 12:55:02 PM


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