For a list of bad laconics, see Sandbox.Pages Needing Better Laconics.
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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
Lucas the Dreamer
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More laconics need improving from my sandbox:
- Vinland Saga
Young Viking vows revenge against his father's killer. Later he becomes a pacifist bound for a distant land.
- Ace Attorney
Courtroom Antics: the Visual Novel.
- Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
The Sonic equivalent to the 1966 Batman series.
- Ace Combat 2
Iron Eagle, The Game.
- Ace Combat Infinity
Ace Pilot: Massive Multiplayer Crossover
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Firstly, for Laconic.Vinland Saga, I'd just delete the Spoiler tag (including the text it hides).
As for Laconic.Ace Attorney, maybe this:
Are these any good in your opinion?
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Changed to the ones you suggested
the Retromancer
Wonder if "while trying" is necessary in Ace Attorney's.
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Thanks.
Yeah, on second thought, that isn't needed. Thanks. EDIT: On further thought, it sounds funnier without the "while", though the "trying" isn't needed.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Nov 13th 2022 at 6:26:52 AM
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Now with those done, Here some Recycled In Space laconics, since the old name is a redirect and I just looked at those wicks today.
- A Car's Life: Sparky's Big Adventure
- A Fistful of Dollars
- A.I.: Artificial Intelligence
- A Man of Iron
- A New Hope (Danganronpa)
A New Hope: One Killing Game, three classes. Plus extras, inside and out.Final Horizon: A Killing Game, in a Space Station! With an unexpected returning character (or two), and other extras besides.Sea of Tranquility: A Killing Game, ON THE MOON! With some unexplained extras, and more returning characters.House of Horrors: A Killing Game, in an island mansion. With artificial Ultimates, a returning face, and more.Railway of Despair: A smaller Killing Game, on a train. Actually very important.Oasis of Hope: A Killing Game, in the desert. With three differing tribes.Rapture: A Killing Game, under the sea. May or may cross-over with Videogame/Bioshock.Legacy: A Final Killing Game, somewhere. With the children of all the previous characters.
- A Space Marine Is You DONE
An elite soldier In Space... IS YOU!
- Alien Stage
A Deadly Game singing competition ...IN SPACE!
- Allegro non Troppo
- Alpaca Evolution
"Evolution", but with alpacas!
- ALVINNN!!! and the Chipmunks
- Anathem
- Apollo 18
- ARIA DONE
- Avengers Arena
Edited by Ayumi-chan on Nov 14th 2022 at 3:00:41 AM
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For A Space Marine Is You, Videogames with a sci-fi Super-Soldier in a Powered Armor as the protagonist.
For Aria, A Slice of Life about a tour guide company working in terraformed Mars's Neo-Venice.
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the Retromancer
Understand that it's pretty difficultto summarize topics people are not invested/familiar with without some analysis of the description, and for works often outside sources.
Actually, I now wonder if we need to sandbox a bad laconic collector similar to Sandbox.Alphabetically Ordering Examples Clean Up.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
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I have it in my own sandbox
VideoGame.Agony 2018's could be changed to "Wandering Hell where your only tool is possessing people, and demons."?
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Yeah, your suggestion is definitely better than the current imo. For the curious, this is the current:
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All done
I actually had that in my sandbox, That suggestion looks good!
- That was why I chose it. Thank you!
Read Or Die is... A franchise, if not a Franchise, so we need to have something that fits it all? I guess the core is "Paper-kinetic superwomen spies of the British Empire"?
Laconic.Wild Star: For the Video Game, but there's also a Comic Book, but everything's about the game?
"Animal House and Star Wars combined into an MMORPG."
Edited by Malady on Nov 14th 2022 at 7:28:44 AM
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Aren't these sinkholes in Laconic.Pothole? Pretty sure this isn't allowed for different reasons, and honestly feels obnoxious.
Links to other pages worked into the text.
I agree, that's more annoying than funny. I would cut them all.
As pointed out by WarJay here, Breakout Villain has a misleading laconic, since this trope is not about a villain's popularity. Would the following be a proper replacement?
- A character who was originally intended to be a one-shot villain becomes the work's Big Bad.
Edited by TantaMonty on Nov 15th 2022 at 3:25:21 AM
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I'd add "and an Arch-Enemy" because the first and third paragraphs suggest that is a requirement. It sums it up nicely otherwise imo, though.
Lucas the Dreamer
Here’s some laconics for Hyrule Warriors and Age of Calamity.
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well Misty May might going to TRS (Alongside Gainaxing), but regardless, you can put in if you want.
Edited by Ayumi-chan on Nov 15th 2022 at 9:34:50 PM
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Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
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Thanks. For the record, I know it's currently a definition-only page, and I just feel those kinds of pages should have Laconics too.
That sounds fine.
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