Yes, rename. And since it's not that wide a concept, and we have so many good Japanese examples, the Japanese term may not be so bad.
If it's getting misuse that way, then I support the rename.
Fight smart, not fair.Rapist Glasses, Rape Glasses, Abusive Glasses Wearer, It Is Okay Because He Has Glasses, Cute Glasses Rapist.
Modified Ura-nage, Torture RackPretty funny the first one is not red.
edited 5th Mar '12 11:13:51 PM by rodneyAnonymous
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.... I'll have to go with the opposite of funny on that one.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.OK, wick check (omitting indexes, compare/contrast, etc):
Correct or questionable-but-let's-be-generous:
- Analysis.Princely Young Man - correct
- Sumomo Mo Momo Mo - borderline, let's say correct
- Socialism And Salted Herring - let's say correct
- Badass Long Coat - correct
- Brains and Bondage - pothole, could go either way, let's say correct
- Characters.Birthday Gift - correct, maybe?
- Characters.Death Note Supporting Characters - correct
- Characters.Higanbana No Saku Yoru Ni - let's say correct
- Characters.I Antivirus - correct, maybe?
- Characters.Katekyo Hitman Reborn - correct, maybe?
- Characters.Loveless - correct
- Characters.Ouran High School Host Club - borderline, let's say correct
- Characters.Sins Vs Virtues - borderline, let's say correct
- Characters.The Prince Of Tennis - borderline, let's say correct
- Characters.Watashi Ni XX Shinasai - borderline, let's say correct
- DarthWiki.Traditionally Tsundere - correct, maybe?
- Axis Powers Hetalia - correct
- Eyes of Gold - correct
- How To Become A Love Interest - correct
- Antique Bakery - correct
- Blood Lad - correct
- D.N.Angel - borderline, let's say correct
- Drug & Drop - let's say correct
- Gravitation - correct
- Hot Gimmick - correct
- Loveless - correct
- MW - correct
- Ouran High School Host Club - correct
- Stardust Wink - borderline, let's say correct
- Naked Apron - correct
- Playing With.Meganekko - correct
- RonTheDeathEater.Axis Powers Hetalia - correct
- Screw Yourself - correct
- Seme - correct
- Sexier Alter Ego - correct
- Silver Chaos - correct
- Trivia.Axis Powers Hetalia - correct
- Visual Novel/Enzai - correct
- Gakuen Heaven - correct
- Kichiku Megane - correct
- Night Shift Nurses - let's say correct
- WMG.Keroro Gunsou - correct
- YMMV.Axis Powers Hetalia - correct
- YMMV.Birthday Gift - correct
- YMMV.Watashi Ni XX Shinasai - correct, maybe?
Probably or definitely wrong:
- Marginal Prince - pretty sure this is misuse
- Popotan - Zero Context Example, pretty sure this is wrong
- Characters.Ah My Goddess - looks more like a Domestic Abuser with glasses
- Characters.Bleach Three - pretty sure this is misuse
- Characters.Dark Fantasy X - pretty sure this is misuse
- Characters.Death Note Side Characters - pretty sure this is misuse
- Characters.Firefly - pretty sure this is misuse
- Characters.Fushigiboshi No Futagohime - pretty sure this is misuse
- Characters.Improbable Island - misuse
- Characters.Night Watch - looks more like a Domestic Abuser with glasses
- Characters.OnePiece-MajorVillains - Zero Context Example, pretty sure this is wrong
- Characters.Scott Pilgrim - Zero Context Example, pretty sure this is wrong
- Characters.The Bartimaeus Trilogy - pretty sure this is misuse
- Characters.Tokyo Babylon - looks more like a Domestic Abuser with glasses
- Characters.Xamd Lost Memories - looks more like a Domestic Abuser with glasses
- Characters.Yukari Is Free - misuse
- Darth Wiki.Was - pretty sure this is misuse
- FairyTailGuilds.Other Members - pretty sure this is misuse
- Scott Pilgrim vs. The World - Zero Context Example, pretty sure this is wrong
- Germanic Depressives - misuse
- Great Teacher Onizuka - Zero Context Example, but GTO isn't noted for its romance subplots so I suspect it's misuse
- History Of The Cold War - misuse
- Under Grand Hotel - misuse
- Monster.Fan Works - misuse
- MoralEventHorizon.Fan Works - misuse
- Nineteen Eighty Four - misuse
- Yo-Jin-Bo - Zero Context Example, pretty sure this is wrong
- Ask That Guy With The Glasses - Zero Context Example, pretty sure this is wrong
- WMG.Bleach - pretty sure this is misuse
Dunno:
- Gloria Union - Zero Context Example
- Haruhi Suzumiya - dunno
- Stardust Wink - dunno
- Gloria Union - Zero Context Example
- Characters Haruhi Suzumiya - dunno
45 correct-ish, 29 wrong, 5 dunno. Around 10 of the correct ones are about characters in the Kichiku Megane game (which are obviously examples since that's its gimmick). Almost all of the non-Japanese examples are misuse.
edited 6th Mar '12 5:51:55 PM by lebrel
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.I agree that this needs a rename, and Sexy Spectacled Sadist sounds good enough. I'd prefer not to give it a Japanese name.
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk BirdSo, can we go straight to an alt-names crowner, or do we have to do a rename crowner first? Or is Sexy Sepectacled Sadist good enough for everybody?
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.The name needs to indicative of an abusive relationship and or rapist. A sadist might just be a person who likes overworking his employees or some torture technician who likes what he does but has no sexual overtones...thus you're back to Four Eyes, Zero Soul.
edited 7th Mar '12 10:16:07 AM by Cider
Modified Ura-nage, Torture RackAlt-names crowner here
Better name suggestions strongly appreciated.
edited 7th Mar '12 10:23:12 AM by lebrel
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.Bump for votes.
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.Bump. A few more votes will do it.
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.Calling in favor of Bespectacled Bastard Boyfriend.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Move in progress. Because of the very high proportion of misuse, what do people think of making Spectacled Sadist a disambiguation page?
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.Agree, even if it's misuse.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanGot everything except for a few wicks that I guess should stay (an old newsletter, the Italian translation project pages, etc). Left Spectacled Sadist as a disambig. I think we're done.
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.Locking.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
Crown Description:
Spectacled Sadist is being misused for "sadistic people with glasses", which actually fall under Four Eyes Zero Soul. The trope is "Bastard Boyfriend (AKA Abusively Sexy Man) with Sexy Spectacles / Stoic Spectacles". The character must be a Love Interest, must be treated as attractive/sexy/desirable and the abusiveness is usually designed to be Fetish Fuel.
Spectacled Sadist is a Love Interest character type and a subtrope of Bastard Boyfriend. A long time ago, it was called Kichiku Megane. At some point (a couple years ago?) this was rejected for being Gratuitous Japanese, and the name picked for the rename was Spectacled Sadist. Since then, people have been trying to use it for "sadists with glasses" (which should go in Four Eyes, Zero Soul). Both the page and the wicks are full of villains with glasses with no romance connection whatsoever. I'll do a wick check in a bit, but the name clearly isn't working. I propose a rename.
An alternate name that was proposed way back when: Sexy Spectacled Sadist. Other suggestions?
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edited 5th Mar '12 9:34:58 AM by lebrel
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.