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Edited by Twiddler on Aug 6th 2023 at 11:53:14 AM
Moved the Magical Girl Raising Project wicks from the Light Novel namespace to Literature. One last wick on MagnificentBastard.Literature needs to be changed.
~ ♪ I know I’m playing with your heart / And I could treat you better but I’m not that smart ♪ ~Done to here.
Thank you for applying my edits to Professor Sada/Turo's writeup on MagnificentBastard.Pokemon...but you accidentally added the spoiler markup with them when Magnificent Bastard subpages are supposed to be Spoilers Off. Would you mind removing the spoiler markup from Professor Sada/Turo's writeup?
Otherwise known as SolemnStormcloud.~Shooting Star 7 X I'll do that but for future reference, please provide the example write up you want us to add to locked pages in your request.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 3rd 2023 at 11:32:48 AM
Macron's notesOkay, I'll remember!
Otherwise known as SolemnStormcloud.Fanfic.LessThanZero to Fanfic.LessThanZeroKenchi618 due to sharing a YMMV page with licensed works. Unless that single YMMV entry is invalid.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Please move the reviews of Anime.Fullmetal Alchemist to Anime.Fullmetal Alchemist 2003
Could you move Es.Dan Browneado's edit history to Es.Exactitud Promocionada Falsamente? The latter new name is currently listed as a redirect of the former.
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker MailI don't see any reviews for Anime.Full Metal Alchemist.
~Yindee — We can't use the page move tool if the target page already exists. I'll have to cut Es.Exactitud Promocionada Falsamente so that I'll be able to move the history over from Es.Dan Browneado
Done to here otherwise.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 3rd 2023 at 10:56:06 AM
Macron's notesOh oops! Totally my bad. Still learning the ropes in this regard. By all means, go ahead!
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker MailReviews button is hidden on pages without the Work pagetype.
There are 4 left there.
Edited by Amonimus on Feb 3rd 2023 at 7:12:12 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupAh, I see. I moved them over.
Macron's notesLabourious Laces as a redirect for Laborious Laces?
Please move:
- Recap.Third Times The Charm to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 1 Third Times The Charm
- Recap.Hang The Witch to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 2 Hang The Witch
- Recap.Cruel Violence And Hollow Words to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 3 Cruel Violence And Hollow Words
- Recap.Who Is A Liar to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 4 Who Is A Liar
- Recap.Dreams Of Distant Days to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 5 Dreams Of Distant Days
- Recap.No Man Is An Island to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 6 No Man Is An Island
- Recap.Ultra Despair Girls DR 3 to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 7 Ultra Despair Girls
- Recap.Who Killed Cock Robin DR 3 to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 8 Who Killed Cock Robin
- Recap.You Are My Reason To Die to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 9 You Are My Reason To Die
- Recap.Death Destruction Despair to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 10 Death Destruction Despair
- Recap.All Good Things to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 11 All Good Things
- Recap.It Is Always Darkest to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Future Arc E 12 It Is Always Darkest
- Recap.Hello Again Hopes Peak Academy to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 1 Hello Again Hopes Peak Academy
- Recap.My Impurest Heart For You to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 2 My Impurest Heart For You
- Recap.A Farewell To All Futures to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 3 A Farewell To All Futures
- Recap.The Melancholy Surprise And Disappearance Of Nagito Komaeda to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 4 The Melancholy Surprise And Disappearance Of Nagito Komaeda
- Recap.Beginning Of The End to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 5 Beginning Of The End
- Recap.A Despairfully Fateful Encounter to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 6 A Despairfully Fateful Encounter
- Recap.The Tragedy Of Hopes Peak Academy to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 7 The Biggest Most Atrocious Incident In Hopes Peak High Schools History
- Recap.The Worst Reunion By Chance to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 8 The Worst Reunion By Chance
- Recap.Chisa Yukizome Doesnt Smile to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 9 Chisa Yukizome Doesnt Smile
- Recap.Smile At Despair In The Name Of Hope to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 10 Smile At Despair In The Name Of Hope
- Recap.Goodbye Hopes Peak Academy to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Despair Arc E 11 Goodbye Hopes Peak Academy
- Recap.The Academy Of Hope And The High School Students Of Despair to Recap.Danganronpa 3 The End Of Hopes Peak High School Hope Arc E 1 The School Of Hope And The Students Of Despair
Edited by IukaSylvie on Feb 4th 2023 at 10:02:01 PM
Those pages had their non-standard format because the full titles are longer than 64 characters.
To start, the The End Of Hopes Peak High School part isn't necessary, and it puts a lot of these over the length cap, so it can safely be left out. There's no rule against using the short name for recaps in a case like this.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.Film.AceInTheHole to Film.AceInTheHole1951 - subpages, I can move manually.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576I've got some additions for the FAQ on Administrivia.Complete Monster to handle some concerns/complaints we've had since the thread reopened, as well as just clarifying some things that have been "unofficial" rules for a bit.
- How about Character Development?: A Complete Monster is something that a character can grow into given the right writing. It's possible for someone who was previously a Harmless Villain to become a legitimate threat and be taken seriously; it's also possible for someone with good intentions or a loved one to shed those qualities over time (bonus points if the CM kills said loved one themself). Conversely, it's possible for someone who seems like a textbook CM to gain redeeming qualities later on, or for a backstory exploration to reveal a Pet the Dog moment that never gets subverted, and thus the character is disqualified. In essence, we take the character as they are at the end of their run — it's possible for a character who once had loved ones or good intentions to qualify as long as any good qualities are subverted by the end.
- This "heinous standard" thing sounds kinda complicated. How does it work for anything larger than a single work?: This is where things can get complex. We try to be as consistent as possible, but there's simply no one-size-fits-all solution to this kind of issue. We will try our best to explain the different possibilities here, but please understand that this is not without exceptions or flexibility:
- What about big franchises?: For large franchises like Star Wars or The DCU, it depends on how connected the various works are. For comic franchises, while the entire franchise has a baseline standard, we generally consider each character/comic to have its own standard; for example, Superman primarily deals with aliens, Batman deals with human supervillains, and Green Arrow deals with street-level threats, and while the villains would have to stand out within those series', we don't directly compare them to each other. By contrast, something like Star Wars is far more interconnected and thus we directly hold villains against each other; for instance, Grand Moff Tarkin, as the most heinous recurring Imperial Officer, sets the standard for all Imperial officers to match no matter where they are in the franchise. It's a case-by-case basis, but the core issue is how interconnected the various works within the franchise are.
- What about franchises with different continuities?: In this case, we judge the continuity by itself without comparing them against each other. Returning to Star Wars, for example, the canon timeline and the Legends timeline are treated completely separately, meaning it's possible for someone to be heinous enough in one but not the other.
- What about anthologies?: In general, anthologies tend to be treated as a single work regardless of if the pieces within are meant to be connected to each other, but from there, things can get flexible depending on the number of authors and how interconnected the works within are — the more authors/the less interconnected, the less strict we tend to be on the standard. This same basic idea also applies to mythologies and similar works — the scrutiny level depends on how connected the works are, but in general, they are all treated as a single work.
- What if things are meant to be connected, but there's a Continuity Snarl?: We hate to say it, but this is yet another layer that might change things. If a work is declared by Word of God to be canon but there's no way to reconcile it with the canon, then we're willing to take it as its own standard (for example, all the seasons of American Horror Story are meant to be canon, but several major details between seasons are incompatible, such as Los Angeles being destroyed twice in two different seasons; therefore, we don't apply the heinous standard as strictly to the show as a whole). However, this is a very particular situation and only rarely ever comes up, so this does not mean that every minor deviation from canon turns it into its own work.
- Is there any way to summarize this?: Yes; it varies from work to work, but the scrutiny we apply to the standard is based on how connected the work is to its other parts. If the works are disconnected, then we tend to take them on their own, but if it's very connected, then we compare them directly to each other. We understand that this is complicated, but we're always willing to answer questions and give our thoughts on the situation if you need any help!
The first point should go under the point titled "Can a Laughably Evil villain be a Complete Monster", while the second should go under the point titled "What about characters with different levels of resources".
Thank you!
Done and done.
Macron's notesNew example for Five-Man Band, to go under Anime & Manga:
- Doraemon: Especially in the long series, no adventure is complete without the whole five being involved. We have Nobita as The Leader who typically prompts the adventure by complaining about his latest misfortune, Doraemon as his primary sidekick whose gadgets enable the adventure, Shizuka as the one Nobita seeks to impress. Gian usually serves as the main muscle of the group, and Suneo tagging alongside him.
Edited by GoldenCityBird on Feb 4th 2023 at 9:22:00 AM
TRS Wick CleaningOn Sonichu, remove the last sentence under Depending on the Artist since it no longer makes sense without the image link.
Keet cleanupEdit request for The Content Policy:
Change Webcomic.XX Xenophile to ComicBook.XX Xenophile
Change LightNovel.Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai to Anime.Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai
Move Chaos Is Very Good from the "Do Nothing" section to the "Special cases" section as this:
- Chaos Is Very Good: Kept by content violations review, cut for being a stub.
Add to the "Bleached Underpants Version Only" section:
- Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA: Magical Girl in Hot Springs Inn is not allowed.
Edited by BlueXIII on Feb 4th 2023 at 8:20:25 AM
Shouldn't it be Literature.Haganai not Anime.Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai?
Edited by homogenized on Feb 4th 2023 at 12:01:57 PM
Thanks for the info!
Fanfic.GhostOfYou to Fanfic.GhostOfYouHarryPotter, because Ghost of You (MildCookie44) exists.
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