Joke CM/MB Proposal Thread

Speak of the Devil, ey?

Also, easy to Yo Mama, who's so evil that she's a Complete Monster!

What's the work

Dragon Ball is a shonen manga series created by Akira Toriyama and among the most famous shonen series in existence. It's so famous in fact that I don't have to explain the premise of the series.
Today we are talking about a character from the first part of the Manga, Dragon Ball and one of the most detestable and overlooked villains in the franchise. Now before you boo me, I genuinely have a good case to make for this guy.

Who is Bear Thief? What has he done?

Bear Thief is, as his name would imply, a bear that's a thief.

• Long ago, Bear Thief would come across and eventually devour a baby turtle. Finding the taste of these innocent creatures delicous, Bear Thief would spend the next few years of his live hunting down baby turtles and eating them alive.
• When Goku and Bulma try to escort Roshi's pet Turtle, errr Turtle, in their search for the Dragon Balls, Bear Thief attacks our heroes and tries to devour Turtle.
• Goku and Bear Thief proceed the fight, with the latter eating the former to fill his desire for a meal. Bear Thief almost kills Goku and indirectly comes close to destroying the multiverse (maybe through disrupting a Canon Event or something, IDK really), but Goku manages to defeat the evil Bear Thief as the latter flees from our brave hero in fear.

Any Migating qualities?

None, he's just an asshole who wants to kill and devour anything that comes in his path, with a special taste for baby creatures.

The only redeeming or likeable thing I can think for this guy are his voice actors, though that shouldn't matter for a Complete Monster candidate.

Is he bad enough?

We all know that Dragon Ball has a huge heinous standard, with villains like Freeza, Cell and Zamasu either destroying or attempting to destroy several planets or universes. Even people who fail the heinous standard themselves like Van Zant and Tao Pai Pai have large body counts for their resources.

But Bear Thief stands out very easily as the worst villain in the series. First of all, Bear Thief is the only villain in the series to devour babies alive, given him a unique niche that no other villain has. Futhermore, Bear Thief's attempt to kill and eat Goku would lead to the whole multiverse being destroyed due to him disrupting the Canon Events of the Dragon Ball franchise, like Goku becoming a Super Saiyan and the destruction of the Red Ribbon Army, just as Miguel 'o Hara stated in the Spider-Man: Spider-Verse movies.

Final Verdict?

Bear Thief gets an easy yes from me. The fact that he was rejected in his previous discussion is a bigger injustice than Syndrome being rejected and put on the resolved items list for several years before his actual approval or the fact that (Insert character with a large Complete Monster = Badge of Honor mentality surrounding them here) continues to be rejected from their well-earned CM status.

Heck if you ask me, we should be instead be cutting Frieza and Zamasu for failing to this absolute chad.

Edited by jlvs200s on Feb 27th 2024 at 7:43:14 PM

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to Bear Thief. He got absolutely shafted in the original thread, but we've learned the error of our ways.

I think that songs are an untapped gold mine of potential candidates. You could argue that Jolene and the woman who blinded Thomas Dolby with science could make for solid MBs.

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Yo mama so fat her wouldn't fit on the page.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

I got a really vile Complete Monster to propose too:

What's the work?

This time, the monster is from the darkest and grimmiest work ever made: Real Life

Who's the candidate and what they have done?

Bob Otherguy is easily the worst human being to ever exist. He's the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Satan all combined. He is a filthy nazi fascist commie anarkiddie whatever that wants to destroy Western Civilization, genocide minorities and then do Fortnite dances on his victims for the next Tik Tok video.

Any Migating qualities?

Definitely not. He is literally the definition of vile. No backstory, no sympathetic qualities, no comical aspects. Nothing at all.

Heinous enough?

Absolutely. I heard that he eats babies for breakfast and that he farts on his political enemies. But his worst crime that brought him to the Moral Event Horizon?? Disagreeing with me and my political ideas!

Final Verdict?

Yes!!!!!!!11111!!

Edited by Omega1065 on Feb 27th 2024 at 8:23:00 PM

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

to Yo Mama (The Evil Matriarch), Bear Thief, and Bob Otherguy

Edited by LoadsAndLoadsOfFreeTime on Feb 27th 2024 at 5:02:23 AM

You've been kicked out of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. :(

to Bob Otherguy. I don't have enough thumbs in the world to express how much I want him to be considered a CM. to Your Mom. Don't talk about my mom like that, she's wonderful :(

That aside, new proposal from me!

What is the work?

Alaskan malamute meets new baby for the first time is a video about the deceptively devious Alaskan malamute Phil meeting a baby.

Who is Phil? What has he done?

Phil is seemingly the pet dog of the baby's parents. His owners introduce him to their baby, and when he gets excited, they tell him not to woof. Defiantly, he shouts "Woof!" right in their faces.

Is he magnificent?

The guts he has to betray his owner's commands in such a deep, tense test of trust is commemorable. He knows they could easily kick him out of the house if they wanted to, but not only does he try their patience, he does it in the most glorious way possible, outright saying the word "Woof!" instead of just woofing.

Is he a bastard? Too much?

Well, immediately disobeying an order you're given for no real reason isn't a very nice thing to do, but he's shown to be very nice to their baby, so he can't be all that bad.

Final verdict?

He's got that dog in him.

"That is hard to argue or agree with." ~Penny

to Phil. Woofing right in someone's face made him far too much of a bastard. Woofing in someone's face is a special kind of evil, even worse than burping in someone's face.

You've been kicked out of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. :(

Infinite to Bob Otherguy. He's literally Satan. It doesn't get more evil than that.

I'm kinda wavering on Phil. Can we be certain that his woofing was an intentional betrayal of trust and not an uncontrollable instinct. If not, then I'll have to give him a for now.

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BUMP!

You've been kicked out of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. :(

I. M. Meen might be worth looking into as a CM/MB crossover.

You've been kicked out of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. :(

BUMP!

You've been kicked out of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. :(

Unrelated discussion, but what's a "bump". I've seen it used a lot in forums.

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

It's what you say when you make a new post on a thread that hasn't been updated in a while and has fallen into the later pages, you're "bumping" it back to the first page.

Hqamilicious

Thanks

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

to Bear Thief.

One for every dead Mario brother to the 1-1 Goomba. I'm guessing his second-quest counterpart, the 1-1 Buzzy Beetle, isn't heinous enough?

Otherwise known as SolemnStormcloud.

Ok, real talk now. Who do you think is more evil: Bob Otherguy or Character Specifically Made To Be A Complete Monster?

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

Now it's time for a Magnificent Bastard EP from me! Though I'm not sure if he's enough of a bastard.

What's the work?

Berserk is a Dark Fantasy manga series created by Kentaro Miura. The series involves Guts wandering the Midlands in order to get revenge against those who wronged him. Along the way, Guts fights various Apostles, demonic entities who were originally humans, but threw away their humanity to serve the God Hand.

But we're not focussing on that "Guts" guy today, instead we're going to talk about one of the most noble heroes in the history of manga, GRIFFITH!

Who is Griffith? What has he done?

Griffith is the noble leader of the Band of the Hawk, Guts' greatest rival and one of the best heroes in Manga history.

• Once a ordinary civilian living in the Mid Lands, Griffith would be filled with the desire to obtain his own kingdom where the inhabitants lived in peace and happiness, where he would be respected by those around him. To achieve his dreams, Griffith would form the Band of the Hawk and used his sheer charisma to recruit several of the mercernary group's members, Casca among them.
• Throughout the next few years Griffith would lead his mercenary groups in several important battles and uses his excellant tactical skills to give his side of the conflict an easy victory, eventually earning him the respect of Midland's king.
• One day, after loosing a duel against Guts, Griffith would sleep with Princess Charlotte in order to climb Mid Land's hierarchy, while also seeking comfort for his loss. Unfortunately for our white-haired hero, Midland's king wouldn't approve of his attempt to charm his daughter and had him tortured.
• the Band of Hawks eventually manages to free Griffith from his year-long torture, but the experience left Griffith crippled and filled with despair and eventually tried to kill himself, but is stopped by The Eclipse transporting him and the rest of the Band of Hawks to the God Hand's domain.
• Griffith proceeds to snap out of his despair and drops his suicidal thoughts and instead hatches a plan to achieve his dream and bring peace to the Midlands by tricking the God Hand into letting him join their ranks, mastering his newfound abilities and using them to defeat the God Hand and free the world from their influence.
• Griffith appoaches the God Hand and convinces them to let him become their fifth member by sacrificing the Band of the Hawk, causing him to be reborn as Femto, and proceeds to [DATA EXPUNGED] Casca while Guts is forced to look at his sheer magnificence.
• Following the Eclipse, Guts would wander across the Midlands in order to get revenge of Femto and would eventually encounter him during the God Hand's meeting with an apostle. Guts attempts to kill Griffith, but he's easily defeated by Griffith's sheer power.
• Eventually, Griffith would find a way to return to a physical form by sacrificing thousands during a reincarnation ceremony. Following him regaining his physical form, Griffith would spend the next few manga chapter getting rid of anybody who would get in the way of his plans, put an end to the tyranical rule of Emperor Ganishka and allowed several Midlanders to seek refuge in his new kingdom.
• During the Fantasia arc, Femto has some encounters with the heroes and continues to show that he's an excellent fighter, but that's mostly it for Griffith's role in the story, as the manga is still ongoing as of now.

Is he magnificent?

FUCK YES! Griffith's one of the most intelligent and charming heroes in the history of Anime & Manga. He's an excellent fighter who manages to go toe-to-toe with Guts, he has immaculable rizz with him stealing Princess Charlotte's heart, he's an excellant tactician and he succesfully manages to the trick the God Hand into letting him join their ranks, just so he can defeat them!

Griffith does become noticably crueler after becoming Femto, but this isn't migating as the God Hand's power has a corrupting influence on him and he tries his hardest to fight off the corruption.

Is he a bastard?

This is the hard part of the proposal, since we all known that "Griffith did nothing wrong", but I think there are two deeds that allows him to keep: the sacrifice of the Band of the Hawk and the sacrifice of thousands during the reincarnation ceremony. While the sacrifices were needed for his gambit to eventually succeed, the acts make him lethal enough to be a bastard in my book, albeit an incredibly small bastard.

Final verdict?

I'm still unsure om him, but I hope I gave this absolute legend the EP he deserves.

Edited by jlvs200s on Mar 6th 2024 at 6:11:42 PM

"Kenny isn't evil, he just did a little too much trolling. :p" | He/Him

No to Griffith. He's too much of a hero compared to Gambino.

Rawr.

What about Donovan tho?

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

Here's an MB candidate:

What is the work?

I Want My Hat Back is a crime story. It may feature anthropomorphic animals, but that's just a literary trick to lull the readers into a false sense of security; it's actually a very gritty story.

Who is the character?

Well, we don't know his name; we just know that he's a bear. He's the Bear with No Name. And he has a cool hat... but if you take it, watch out.

Is he magnificent?

Like I said, he wears a cool hat, which means that he cares about his appearance. As for intelligence, he's smart enough to eventually realise he was lied to, and when a rabbit stands in his way, he gets his hat back, thus winning.

Is he a bastard?

Yes. Not only is he a bear, and Bears Are Bad News, it's heavily implied that he got the hat back by eating the aforementioned rabbit.

Conclusion

For every low there is a high.

To the bear. Now I've got a Magnificent Bastard proposal for y'all.

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What's The Work?

Avatar, a money-printing 2009 Science Fiction Epic Movie directed by James Cameron that later spawned a franchise.

Who Are They?

Eywa is a Nature Spirit comprised of all of the organic matter that flows throughout the moon of Pandora, and is worshiped by the Na'vi as a goddess.

Are They Magnificent?

Very much so! It's established that all of Pandora's wildlife lives in harmony because of her, and makes a deliberate choice to have wounded former Marine Jake Sully lead the Na'vi to victory after seeing his destitute position.

Are They A Bastard? Too Much?

The most "bastard" thing she does over the course of the first movie is sending a whole mass of Pandora's native animals to attack the RDA in the Final Battle, ensuring that the Pandoran biosphere would live on.

Final Verdict?

I see you agree with me that Eywa's a Magnificent Bastard.

Edited by Sourguy on Mar 21st 2024 at 6:47:41 AM

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to the bear and Eywa. to Griffith, as we all know he did nothing wrong. Now, I have another Magnificent Bitch entry.

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What's the work?

"She Blinded Me With Science" is an 80's new wave classic by English artist Thomas Dolby. Originally released as a single in 1982, it would later become a staple inclusion on later re-releases of his first album, The Golden Age of Wireless. The song is best associated with its iconic music video, which shot to popularity though MTV airplay.

Who is the character?

Our subject today is the titular woman who blinded Thomas Dolby with science. It's not apparent what her actual name is, but because of the iconic lyric, "Good heavens, Miss Sakamoto, you're beautiful!" I will be referring to her as "Miss Sakamoto" from here on out.

Is she magnificent?

Miss Sakamoto is an accomplished Mad Scientist who uses her knowledge and cunning to seduce any man she comes across. Throughout the song, we see her use her charm on our Science Hero Thomas Dolby, even getting him to make love to her at one point. She emits perfume-like pheromones that allure all who stand by her, as evidenced by the lyric, "When I'm standing next to her, I can smell her chemicals."

Is she a bitch?

No words can describe Miss Sakamoto quite like the term "Manipulative Bitch." Once Miss Sakamoto has you entranced by her beauty, she takes advantage of your lowered guard to blind you with science and subject you to her wicked experiments. In the song, she hits Thomas Dolby with her Hypnotic Gaze, as deep as any ocean, as sweet as any harmony. Then, once she has Dolby under her spell, Miss Sakamoto blinds him with science, failing him in both biology and geometry (talk about a double kill!), hitting him with technology, and sending his spheres into a commotion. She even takes advantage of his weakened state to rearrange his science equipment so he can't find anything! Only a fool could fail to recognize Miss Sakamoto's skills as a master of psychological manipulation.

Final Verdict?

Good heavens, Miss Sakamoto, you're a keeper!

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to Griffith (I guess he did something wrong, even if in a purely legal sense), the bear (is a bear), and Miss Sakamoto (perhaps the easiest keeper).

Now, I have a Complete Monster candidate, and he's a bad one.

What's the work?

One particular instalment of Bertstrips. More specifically, this picture◊ that I had on my desktop for a while now. It also had a movie adaptation thanks to burialgoods.

Who is he? What has he done?

Ernie is the God of Torment. He trapped four of his friends in four different dimensions, thereby dooming them to a lifetime of isolation and madness. All the while he laughs at their suffering.

Heinousness standards?

He trapped four people in a Fate Worse than Death for fun. Is that not enough?

Mitigating factors?

Well, firstly, his crimes are clearly on-screen. I mean, his friends are clearly in those other dimensions, and the text at the bottom clearly says that he did it.

Now, he doesn't have any apparent redeeming qualities. He appears to be only motivated by his sadism here.

One might object that Ernie, as the God of Torment, has agency issues. However there's no indication that he's Made of Evil, and the fact that he's laughing shows he isn't a mindless beast.

And he is TOTALLY taken serously 100%, not at all a parody.

Final verdict?

Ja!

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to The Bear. to Ernie. Bertstrips has far too high of a Heinousness Standard for anyone to count as a CM.

"That is hard to argue or agree with." ~Penny

This is my first Magnificent Bastard proposal, so bear with me.

What’s the work?

I don’t know the name, but the candidate comes from a Spanish Silly Song made by woman named Maria Elena Walsh.

Who is El Gato Que Pez? What has he done?

El Gato Que Pez (The Cat that fishes) is a devious, suave little feline who wanders the streets, sitting on windowsills to steal people’s hats with his trademark fishing rod.

Any Mitigating Qualities?

None. Would you like it if someone stole your hat?

Is he bad enough?

Listen, I’m pretty sure hat stealing violates all the Geneva Conventions, so yeah, he is.

Final Verdict:

El Gato Que Pez may be the smoothest, baddest mother to ever walk the land. Vote for him ‘cause I said so.

Love ruins all.