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- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
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- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
I could see listing CPR as a first kiss if characters treat it as such, but given the CPR-giver is potholed as her mentor it sounds like they don't.
Re: the Shipper on Deck questions:
teasing Wol about his interest in him, suggesting Wol ask him on a date sounds like shipping.
Wol says he doesn't think Cloud would be interested because he "only has eyes for Sephiroth. sounds like an observation, not shipping.
he may or may not have encouraged sounds like it's unconfirmed that it actually happened, so not an example.
she points out rather bluntly that Visas and the Handmaiden are both infatuated with you and she doesn't want to have to beat them both off with a stick if she starts sharing a bunk with you Again, this is just an observation, not encouraging the relationship.
Kreia (...) implies that she'd prefer to see you with the Handmaiden might be shipping, I think it depends on how strongly she implies it.
Alright thanks, I'll move the example to CPR: Clean, Pretty, Reliable and cut the SOD examples, except for removing the last sentence for the Mobius Final Fantasy example.
CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floors
From PopCultureUrbanLegends.Live Action Films.
- It is said that in Back to the Future Part III, Marty makes a reference to movies while in 1885, and a child asks "what's a movie?", before being sent away by adults who call him "D.W." and "that little Griffith boy". This happens in an early joint draft of II & III called the "Paradox Script", and is also present in the novelization of III, but is not in the movie itself. It's also Artistic License – History because Griffith did not move to California until 1910.
- It is said that in Back to the Future Part III, Marty makes a reference to movies while in 1885, and a child asks "what's a movie?", before being sent away by adults who call him "D.W." and "that little Griffith boy". This happens in an early joint draft of II & III called the "Paradox Script
Since this is easily debunked by just watching the film, I feel like this isn't really an urban legend and fits better under either Common Knowledge or Mandela Effect.
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Not a fan of the weasel wording "It is said that ...". I guess depending on how widespread it is it can be moved to Mandela Effect.
I was browsing the Ocean Punk page, and I was wondering if the science fiction film "The Lost Continent", by Hammer Studios (as in, "the Hammer Horror guys") would count as an example for the Live Action Films folder? The Lost Continent revolves around a sailing ship that stumbles across a massive patch of mobile, predatory Sargasso Weed when blown off-course. This weed has evolved to become its own ecosystem, complete with creatures like giant mutant crabs and even its own civilization descended from sailors (largely Spanish conquistadors) who have been stranded here over the centuries and who use elaborate, balloon-suspended diving suits to safely traverse the surface of the weed.
I haven't seen that film, but I do my punk genres. Is the film an apocalyptic/disaster setting or scenario? If so, that'll most likely be a yes. Is it retro-futuristic (like steampunk on the ocean)? If so, that'll be a definite yes.
On the surface, it does sound like it could be.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 11th 2022 at 5:32:33 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Are the Punch-Out guys Boxing Battlers? It’s listed as an example on the trope page:
- Punch-Out!!: Though most boxers play the trope straight, others mix up their "boxing" style with moves and techniques that wouldn't be approved in a real-life boxing tournament, such as Dragon Chan landing kicks like in kung fu, Aran Ryan using headbutts, or Great Tiger using teleportation.
I only played a Punch-Out game long ago as a kid, but from what I understand about the series, all the battles taking place are boxing matches.
A Boxing Battler, if I’m correct, is someone who uses boxing techniques outside the ring in a “real” fight, so the Punch-Out games shouldn’t count.
I think that Little Mac being the page image might confuse matters, but I do consider him a valid example, but only in Smash Bros, since those are fights against non-boxers outside the ring.
Unless later versions of Punch-Out have changed alot, all of the action is inside the ring (making it a sports game and not a combat game), so I wouldn't say it is an example.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
She / Her
Someone removed this Jerkass Has a Point entry from Dennis Bukowski's folder in Characters.MCU United States Citizens. This was under the edit reason, "Fridge Logic. Just because he could theoretically have a point doesn't mean it's presented as being right in the narrative.".
Lost in Space
That trope is only valid if the narrative shows that the jerkass is right. Here it’s just an audience interpretation, which shouldn’t count.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
She / Her
K, that makes sense. Thanks.
The Digital
Example founded on Fanfic.A Dash Of Logic.
Patchwork Fic: Of the Hillenburg and post-Hillenburg era of the show. The tone and characterization mainly harken back to the original three seasons but some aspects from the latter seasons, such as Sandy being an Omnidisciplinary Scientist, Karen’s exaggerated Deadpan Snarker tendencies, Pearl being a full-blown Bratty Teenage Daughter and the citizens of Bikini Bottom being moronic, apathetic and/or greedy jerks are also staples in the fic.
This trope is about a fanfic that picks up elements from other continuities and merge into one. This example is about picking up elements from earlier and later seasons from the show. This example is valid?
Angry babby
No, because the series is one continuity, and the post-Hillenburg seasons do not necessarily retcon the pre-Hillenburg ones (there's a decent mix of retcon and Call-Back).
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Sister Floriana still has a page...
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Not sure this is the right thread for that, but as I recall, the ROCEJ thread cut the more problematic examples from that page and decided the rest was harmless enough.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Sister Floriana is quite literally just a dumb slice-of-life with stolen art and a hint of fascist ideology that isn't really explored. It's fine.
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From Legend of the Seeker, wouldn't the fact that it kept the characters, setting and main conflict from the source material disqualify it from being In Name Only?:
From Trivia.Glass Onion, are the two works close enough to qualify as Duelling Works, seeing how this work is being released in December, whilst Death on the Nile came out last February?:
And does the following example from YMMV.Dark Crisis look like it's being used correctly?:
the Retromancer
As someone who've watched Legend of the Seeker, yeah it's a bit loose adaptation of the first two books, but it still is an adaptation of the material and In Name Only would be plain false.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
She / Her
Does an example of Seven Deadly Sins count if only five of the sins are listed as the character only qualifies for that many?
For the record, I personally don't think so. I'm asking because I once commented out an example that did that and another troper un-commented it.
Found this on Terry Silver's character page here
- Dirty Coward: As Mike Barnes points out when Silver sics his goons on him, Johnny, and Chozen in the Season 5 finale, Silver always uses his wealth to get other people to do his dirty work for him because he's too cowardly to do it himself.
Edited by spyland2 on Sep 12th 2022 at 5:03:11 AM
Aside from that what have the Romans done for us?
Not an example, cut with a vengeance.
Edited by laserviking42 on Sep 12th 2022 at 5:57:58 AM
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
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I was thinking of putting this on the YMMV page for the infamous Spongebob episode "Little Yellow Book":
- Too Bleak, Stopped Caring: Jerkass Ball is in full force here. Squidward exposes all of Spongebob's embarrassing secrets in front of everybody while everyone else laughs along with him, and then have the gall to shun Squidward when Spongebob runs off crying. This even includes Patrick, Spongebob's best friend! In fact, only two characters in this episode have any semblance of decency: Spongebob himself and Mr. Krabs (who was disgusted by Squidward but didn't join in on mocking Spongebob). And at the end, Squidward admits that all the punishment he gets is Worth It if it means Spongebob is humiliated. Is it any wonder this episode is one of the most reviled in the series's history?
It's been a while since I watched Spongebob, but I seriously doubt it ever sank to the level of "bleak enough to stop caring". I would cut personally.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
She / Her
I feel the last part comes off as complaining. Moreover, I feel saying that's TBSC is stretching it.
I would say no. First Kiss has emotional context that CPR does not. The actual trope would probably be more akin to CPR: Clean, Pretty, Reliable.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.