Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
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Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
I don't think Ship Tease between minors is legitimately Squick or No Yay
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?Edited by Kuprin on Feb 8th 2024 at 10:47:21 AM
Are any of these even real examples from an existing work? I'm getting a little worn down from all these wild hypotheticals
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?I'd say that 1) depends on the characters' ages, 2) what's being depicted, 3) on the laws regarding that sort of thing, and 4) on the personal opinions of the readers.
Where should the following example be placed? At the moment, it's listed under the one work on the Misblamed (RWBY) and the other work on the YMMV (the JL/RWBY page). Should I move the Misblamed example to the JL/RWBY crossover (Western Animation namespace instead of Web Animation namespace) or should I move the YMMV entry from the crossover page to the RWBY page?
- Misblamed: After the Volume 9 Blu-Ray was released, commentary was revealed that a number of segments had been cut due to time and money, sparking speculation that Part 1, despite its popularity, caused CRWBY to lose funding for Volume 9 to add onto the movie. Further fanning the flames is a Caustic Critic revealing that, at a Q&A panel, Kerry Shawcross pitched the idea of a RWBY and Justice League crossover movie, citing the success of the comics, and Warner Bros. went with it with little pushback, thus accusations were tossed out Volume 9 suffered due to a passion project. This forced Kerry to come out and explain that the movies did nothing to hurt Volume 9's budget (it was more due to the Volume being budgeted before COVID-19 hit and the pandemic running roughshod across everything) and that it was funded by Warner Bros. themselves.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Jan 10th 2024 at 10:23:28 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.From Trivia.Ultimate Spider Man 2024:
- Dueling Works: In a case of History Repeats, this title is going up against its 616 counterpart, The Amazing Spider-Man (2022). Once again, Ultimate is going up against the main title during a period that the fandom has turned against the main title due to poor story beats.
Not sure about this one. Marvel already has three other versions of Spider-Man out there, in publication at the moment - original Peter Parker, alternate world 'Spider-Punk' and Miles Morales. Plus Spider-Boy, the new younger sidekick version.
So is adding a new Alternate Universe version really 'duelling', or just expanding their own franchise? Keep or cut?
(I'm also a little wary of the "fandom has turned against the main title due to poor story beats", as this is Trivia, not YMMV, and it's still Marvel's top-selling book even if some fans hate it... but that's a question for another thread)
Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 10th 2024 at 12:25:48 PM
Also found this on RealityIsUnrealistic.Video Games
- Stellar Blade: The game's trailers have been heavily criticized across twitter, for having such an unrealistically beautiful protagonist... Only for the game devs to show how Eve is the result of scanning Korean model Shin Jae-eun.
Edited by Ayumi-chan on Jan 10th 2024 at 8:59:38 PM
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/AIm guessing its there because USM as of now is seen as an antithesis to whats currently going on with canon Spider works. The biggest being that it deals with an adult Peter married to MJ with kids.
That's dub-induced Ho Yay but i'm not sure it's a personality change per se
I also don't think that counts as Reality Is Unrealistic, because you're talking about one woman whose job is being beautiful and who was probably heavily made up before scanning
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?- Beacon (2018): Hard difficulty mentions enemies having a reduced chance to laugh at your jokes:
Hard: Looking for a challenge? Enemies are more numerous, deal more damage, and are less likely to laugh politely at your jokes, even if you look like you need a win.
It should say it's parodied.
Does Permanently Missable Content apply to when a game gives you a choice of items, and you can only take one? It seems to me that it applies to when a player might miss stuff depending on how they play, not an exclusive choice intended by the designer. Eye of the Beholder has an entry like this.
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.If it's not in the work then is it an example?
Edited by Amonimus on Jan 11th 2024 at 1:38:07 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI would say not unless it was confirmed as a specific artistic decision, since Rule of Three is a narrative trope.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.This example is misused, but what should I delete?
- A Rare Sentence:
- "I'm calling Mom! (closes door, opens door again) And I am not using the banana this time!" Lampshaded by Phineas:
Phineas: You guys heard that, right? It wasn't just me...?- "Definitely the Giant Floating Baby Head."
As the one who deleted the video of the former (because I don't think the confusion is specific enough to be an example of A Rare Sentence), the latter is misuse because it's not acknowledged as a rare sentence, just a weird thing. It's only an example in the Clip Show episode which has a compilation themed around A Rare Sentence.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.So should I remove it from the page all together? It's really confusing me.
In Characters.MILGRAM, there was a long list of examples of Rule of Three for Mikoto Kayano, a character with a prominent Duality Motif. As far as we know, he's a system of two alters, but it's a popular headcanon that there's a third. One troper and I agreed to keep Rule of Three out of his folder because we considered it a coincidence, not deliberate. Another had put it back, saying Rule of Three is just general tricoding.
Just wanted to confirm whether Rule of Three is meaningful symbolism of threes (which disqualifies it from a character associated with twos) or the general usage of threes.
Is this example on the Liv and Maddie page zero-context?
Yes. It is.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessSo this entry under Backstab Backfire has been bugging me for a long time; it's been crosswicked two times and has a video example (all of which are differently worded), and I really don't think it's example, but I just want to make sure:
- The Lion King: Cornered by his enraged nephew, Scar vainly tries to shift the blame to the hyenas. Unfortunately for him, the hyenas overhear and become extremely pissed. Simba then chooses exile on his treacherous uncle, repeating the last words Scar spoke to him as a cub. Scar instead sneak attacks Simba with some hot coal to try and put him off balance. Though it does wing Simba, he's still as combat adept as ever and eventually tosses him off a cliff down to where the enraged and very hungry hyenas await and they attack their traitorous boss and literally tear him apart.
The entry on Scar's character page and the quotes entry outright omits the part about Simba, which makes me think someone added it under the assumption that the trope involves any kind of villain backstab that fails, rather than the villain throwing away mercy to get the drop on the hero, only for the reverse to happen. Even with the Simba context it doesn't really feel like an example, since Simba defeating Scar was unrelated to the hyenas being the ones to kill him.
Silver and gold, silver and goldWhile cleaning up Obvious Beta, I found this example on Friday Night Funk:
- Obvious Beta: Justified: the reason why Mommy Mearest is a 'Content Deleted' image and Monster was a photograph of a lemon in Literally FNF was because the game-maker was not done with the game by the time the game got famous around Twitter.
I'm not sure if this is a valid example or not. If it isn't, is there a more fitting trope for it? Closest I can think of is Stylistic Suck.
EDIT: Another one, from Ghost Master:
- Obvious Beta: Not in the typical fashion, but the game ended on a cliffhanger, despite the lack of sequel. Thankfully, the final mission, bringing a more satisfying end, was released for download via the internet and packaged with the Steam version.
Again, unsure if this is Obvious Beta or some other trope.
EDIT 2: Yet another one, this time from Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller:
- Obvious Beta: Some sections have serious errors that can leave players stuck. For instance, going by info in the subtitles instead of the spoken dialogue makes one puzzle unsolvable.
Would this count for Unintentionally Unwinnable?
Edited by jandn2014 on Jan 12th 2024 at 3:22:04 PM
back lolFrom Anime.This Ugly Yet Beautiful World:
- Fond Memories That Could Have Been: In the final episode, Hikari and Takeru watch a vision of themselves as the loving domestic couple they might have been. They watch Takeru driving off to work on his delivery bike while Hikari and their baby wave goodbye.
Does this example fit?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.- Hollywood Homely: Madisyn Shipman is clearly attractive, but Kenzie is almost completely ignored by the male characters.
I don't watch the show but is she deliberately ignored or does the show just not care to give her Ship Tease? The latter doesn't necessarily mean she's meant to be ugly.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
From Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka
Leaving aside the myriad of media that features teasing between in-universe underage characters already, isn't No Yay about characters a majority of fandom doesn't want to be shipped together?