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Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
Forum Villain
#26: Jun 1st 2011 at 8:20:15 AM

I think that characters without Dark And Troubled Pasts are boring. Therefore, expect a Dysfunction Junction.

Examples: A character who was tortured by his father, forced to eat the poorly-cooked rotted meat of his beloved sister and mother, forced to vomit on himself because he was strapped to a chair for a week, lived with the corpses of his sister and mother for a week, etc. He got better, though. He was seventeen when it happened, and thirteen years of hatred have been good to him.

Also, Very little comedy relief if the work is dark. I'm a professional, and I like my moods to be professional also. But I'm not all "dark and serious", because I also plan on writing a comedy someday called The Gangs Of Nowhere, about highly incompetent and dysfunctional organized crime families in a rural setting.

edited 1st Jun '11 8:20:27 AM by Pyroninja42

"Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person that doesn't get it."
annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
watching down on us
#27: Jun 1st 2011 at 8:38:58 AM

[up] That reminds me—I'm really big on protagonists being subject to inordinate amounts of torture, especially near the end of the story during the encounter with the antagonist.

Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#28: Jun 1st 2011 at 8:52:42 AM

  • Hooves. (There will always be one person with hooves or primitive horse-style hoof-toes. I have a... thing...)
  • Good parents. (There may be a couple rotten apples, but I'd prefer my characters' failings to be their own; also it's hard enough to find truly amazing parents in fiction.)
  • Sanity slippage. (It's just fun.)
  • Ho Yay
  • Someone with pointy ears. (I have... another thing.)
  • At least one person (doesn't matter their gender) who is happy and fulfilled leading a domestic life.
  • No sex scenes. (I don't like to read them, I don't want to write them.)
  • A downplaying of romantic love. (There are other kinds of love and more important obligations; if a character chooses their lover over the well-being of a great lot else it's bound to end up being the sign of a disturbed mind in one of my stories.)

edited 1st Jun '11 8:55:08 AM by Bur

i. hear. a. sound.
Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
Forum Villain
#29: Jun 1st 2011 at 9:09:10 AM

[up]Ditto on the no sex scenes. They are for the most part unnecessary, and even then I don't feel compelled to cater to horny idiots.

"Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person that doesn't get it."
Vilui Since: May, 2009
#30: Jun 1st 2011 at 10:31:27 AM

  • Cats.
  • Counting only characters who have enough presence in the work to have a discernible personality, expect a majority of females and usually a teenage female protagonist.
  • Earn Your Happy Ending
  • Nakama / The Power of Friendship
  • Ditto on the "no sex scenes".
  • Some form of mystery (not necessarily a murder mystery) with clues early in the narrative that will make sense later on.
  • Secret identities, or two characters later being revealed as the same person.
  • One character who's a fan of William Shakespeare and drops quotes into casual conversation.
  • One character (heroic but never the lead female) who's considered extraordinarily beautiful and has very long dark hair and pale skin.
  • If you knew which female names I consider "pretty" and which I don't, you'd have a much better chance of telling the good guys and villains apart early on.

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
watching down on us
#31: Jun 1st 2011 at 11:31:33 AM

Conversely, I always manage to throw in a shitload of immensely loud, passionate sex between the main couple.

While sex looks fine in comics, it's usually awkward to read in prose, so I actually avoid writing it.

edited 1st Jun '11 11:32:03 AM by annebeeche

Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#32: Jun 1st 2011 at 12:10:35 PM

Rather than list author appeal elements per se, I went for those things that are more my personal hallmarks than anything else:

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
Lasty Lucaruka!! from Auld Lang Syne Since: Jan, 2010
Lucaruka!!
#33: Jun 1st 2011 at 12:35:23 PM

Let's see, I can't think of a single villain I've written that has absolutely nothing redeeming about them. I have a tendency to write cutely naive characters, and I abuse Refusal of the Call. Also, I very rarely focus on romance. It's just soooo boring to write. Characters fall in love, but they do it gradually and fairly behind-the-scenes.

...Musically, just about every time I solo there's F sharp being used as a grace note to G, even if it'd be in the wrong key. Most of the stuff I've written has one stuck in there somewhere too, but not nearly as often.

edited 1st Jun '11 12:37:01 PM by Lasty

Cry for the moon!
Hermiethefrog Since: Jan, 2001
#34: Jun 1st 2011 at 1:05:07 PM

I tend to have at least one female character that qualifies for as a Little Miss Badass

Ditto with Action Girls in general

Lots of snarking and sarcastic replies

Meaningful Names or Punny Names

Some form of mind rape

Dysfunction Junction

I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting...

HistoryMaker Since: Oct, 2010
#35: Jun 1st 2011 at 2:23:25 PM

Female protagonists tend to have divorced or long separated parents, and dead or long absent fathers.

Dogs are plot relevent lab mixes.

Protagonist tend to have a younger cousin or half-sibling who looks up to them.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#36: Jun 1st 2011 at 2:31:52 PM

I just realized that I can only think of one story I've written since ninth grade that didn't have at least one romantic subplot. There's generally some form of Will They or Won't They?, but it's not usually a Love Triangle—rather, there's some obstacle in one or both characters' personalities or natures.

Also, I've noticed that I tend to make my less-human characters female and attractive (though the latter needn't be in any conventional way.)

Also also, shapeshifters. Lots and lots of shapeshifters. I'm trying to force myself not to use them.

Also also also, I'm a firm believer in not "overplaying my hand," as I call it. This means that when two characters argue over a philosophical point, and the reader could reasonably be expected to side with either one, I try not to alienate half my readers by declaring one side and only one side right. In practice, this means a lot of Grey-and-Gray Morality.

edited 1st Jun '11 2:33:15 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
watching down on us
#37: Jun 1st 2011 at 2:50:45 PM

Lots of loving, doting, caring fathers and father figures.

Hell, even my sterile protagonist is a father figure. He's an adopted uncle. :3

edited 1st Jun '11 2:50:56 PM by annebeeche

Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
Anthony_H ...starring Adam Sandler?! from monterrey, mex Since: Jan, 2001
...starring Adam Sandler?!
#38: Jun 2nd 2011 at 11:02:08 PM

edited 2nd Jun '11 11:03:38 PM by Anthony_H

FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
Responsible adult
#39: Jun 2nd 2011 at 11:12:50 PM

[up][up]: Awwwww. waii

Another thing I can't believe I forgot: My primary female character is always left-handed.

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada
Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#40: Jun 3rd 2011 at 12:23:40 AM

i always have grey and gray morality.

apathy tends to show up in most of my stories to some degree.

aside from that...? jerks with hearts of gold, only heavier on the jerk than the gold.

oh right and there is always a massive pessimist somewhere around. always.

KSPAM PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY from PARTY ROCK Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY
#41: Jun 3rd 2011 at 5:36:19 AM

Odds are you'll find at least one of the following in my stories:

I've got new mythological machinery, and very handsome supernatural scenery. Goodfae: a mafia web serial
LadyMomus Since: Apr, 2009
#42: Jun 3rd 2011 at 6:02:30 AM

My works tend to have:

  • Third person limited POV.
  • More than one viewpoint character, although usually only one per chapter.
  • Female main character.
  • Athletic female characters who are wiry or willowy. They also tend to range from average bust size to Pettanko. (Usually leaning towards Pettanko.)
  • Gender blender names and nicknames.
  • There is normally at least one Happily Married couple in each of my stories.* There are still screwed up relationships, but there's usually happy couples to balance those out.
  • Meaningful Names. A lot of the time, my character names are significant, although I try to avoid obvious meanings. The name meanings are rarely discussed in story.
  • Mythology references.
  • Characters who express their feelings through actions rather than words. This can be because of being reserved, shy, or just lousy at expressing feelings in words.
  • Lots of playing with assumptions (of both the characters and the audience).

edited 3rd Jun '11 6:30:05 AM by LadyMomus

TheFedoraPirate Since: Jan, 2001
#43: Jun 3rd 2011 at 6:26:30 AM

Golems, Anachronism Stew, a Fallen Hero and/or Corrupt Government all appear quite frequently in my work.

edit: Also, no romance except, occasionally, protagonists who are part of a married couple but no one who is in the process of falling in love.

edited 3rd Jun '11 6:30:11 AM by TheFedoraPirate

"They called me mad, I called them mad, and damn them, they outvoted me." - Nathaniel Lee, playwright, upon being committed to Bedlam
WeepingWillow Since: Apr, 2011
#44: Jun 3rd 2011 at 7:06:37 AM

My works usually have:

Qmarkthe2nd Ted Baxter Extraordinaire Since: Jun, 2011
Ted Baxter Extraordinaire
#45: Jun 3rd 2011 at 7:09:18 AM

Temporary alt account for Qmark since my other computer's broken. Not a Sock Puppet!
BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
vigilantly taxonomish
#46: Jun 3rd 2011 at 7:09:39 AM

Fantasy Kitchen Sink, Anachronism Stew, fusion of comic and dramatic elements, use of the third person subjective voice, playing with the Fourth Wall and other metafictional elements.

A lot of the time I feel like I'm gently poking fun at my characters, be they badasses, nerds or mass murderers, so even serious characters can end up doing things like locking themselves out of their house, or accidentally squawking like a parrot, for example.

I seldom include romance in my stories, but that's mainly because I suck at writing it. I'm also somewhat averse to killing off characters, but when I do, they stay dead.

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FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
Responsible adult
#47: Jun 3rd 2011 at 10:20:01 AM

Unless you specifically write adult-oriented romance fiction or erotica, saying "no sex scenes" seems, to me, like a person who writes Medieval European Fantasy saying "no cattle rustlers." Whether it's even viable in the first place depends largely on your target audience and genre, so citing its absense as a hallmark in places where it isn't even expected in the first place strikes me as a kind of off.

...I understand not being comfortable with writing them, though.

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada
DrFurball Two-bit blockhead from The House of the Rising Sun Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
Two-bit blockhead
#48: Jun 5th 2011 at 4:35:18 PM

edited 5th Jun '11 4:54:12 PM by DrFurball

Weird in a Can (updated M-F)
RenHydron Unknown Phantom from the Land of Lost Laments Since: Mar, 2011
Unknown Phantom
#49: Jun 5th 2011 at 5:18:16 PM

As much as my "works" lack any physical substance, these things seem to enjoy popping up constantly;

And probably some others I'm forgetting.

edited 5th Jun '11 5:21:07 PM by RenHydron

LongJohnnyStrong Since: Apr, 2011
#50: Jun 5th 2011 at 5:30:17 PM

Always have a couple of these:

And, as much as I try to keep things simple and funny, long story arcs with lots of callbacks, brick jokes and continuity porn.

edited 5th Jun '11 5:33:24 PM by LongJohnnyStrong


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