- Jossed by the special edition of Return of the Jedi, which shows Naboo is still around and no worse for wear, aside from Imperial control for many years.
- Also, there's a deleted scene of Yoda arriving at Dagobah in Revenge of the Sith.
- Actually, Yodea used the Force to "help" crashing the ship in that place.
- R2-D2 knew where Yoda was hiding, and steered the ship towards his camp.
- His beeping when Yoda showed up is something like "Yoda! It's you! We've come for your help!" rather than being started by the sudden appearance of a little green man.
- But, wasn't R2's mind wiped at the end of Episode III?
- Nope, only C3PO's.
- How much of C-3PO's mind was erased?
- Not only that, but Yoda deliberately crashed Luke's ship in the bog for two reasons. First, to stress him out, and make his Secret Test of Character more earnest. Second, he knew the X-Wing would eventually sink completely, providing the perfect exercise to test how well Luke was taking to his Jedi training. If he could get the ship out on his own, awesome. If he couldn't, Yoda could do it, and prove to Luke that "size matters not."
- R2-D2 knew where Yoda was hiding, and steered the ship towards his camp.
- Remember, he didn't have this speech problem talking to Obi Wan's force ghost.
- Or it could be, y'know, an accent. Tarkin's accent is different from Han's; the Thrawn trilogy confirms that Wookiees can have speech impediments; since nobody knows anything about Yoda's species, we can't confirm whether they have accents or not. It is, however, an interesting idea. (This troper, incidentally, enjoyed restructuring Vandar's sentences to Yodish).
- "The species' language"? So an entire species has only one language? What's ours? It it Esperanto, amiko?
- Not to mention, someone as old and wise as Yoda, living among Basic speakers for as long as he has, would have had plenty of time to fix any accent if he wanted to. Whether it's his natural accent or not, he probably kept it for the reason listed above, and because sounding silly and being underestimated because of it makes your points hit home that much harder when you prove them. This is exactly the kind of sneaky manipulative-for-your-own-good stuff that Yoda and Jedi he's trained are known to do throughout both films and the EU.
- If you pay attention in Knights of the Old Republic, you'll notice that Vandar has the habit of blinking his eyes sequentially. Perhaps each member of his and Yoda's species are born with their own unique quirk? Vandar's quirk is his blinking, and Yoda's quirk is his speech pattern.
- I saw a special on the original trilogy once in which the cast said (although it may have been their own speculations and not straight from Lucas and the other powers that be: they weren't clear on that) centuries ago, back when Yoda was young, everyone talked like him (or at least where he was from). Languages evolve over time, and the one represented to us as English when we see the films got its subject-object verb order rules changed as it did so, yet he just kept on talking the old way—be it out of force of habit or nostalgia or tradition or fear of change or heavens knows what they didn't say.
- In the prequels, Yoda is seen teaching the younglings. The sentence construction could just be a way to make his teachings more memorable. After all, 900 years is plenty of time to get good at memetics.
- This theory is actually pointed out and discussed in-universe by Luke and Ben Skywalker in the Fate of the Jedi series.
- Latin has a tendency to put the verb at the end of the sentence, and as verb conjugation includes an implied pronoun, it sometimes puts the subject at the end as well. Yoda may be speaking a much older and more structured and formal dialect of Basic, switching only when immediate precision is necessary.
- I hate to say it, but this makes sense. In fact, Ozzel would be perfect as a double agent: who would expect this guy to work for the Rebels?
- Or, if you believe the theory mentioned above, he was a Rebel double-agent, and did so that the Rebels could prepare and launch their assault. Which would also explain why he survived the Death Star's explosion: he was one of those nervous officers who decided to flee, and probably did so the second he heard that one guy make the comment to Tarkin about preparing to evacuate "just in case".
- Lando has ordered it repaired, and the crew should believe him when he says it's fixed. If Lando believes it's working, then if anything goes wrong with Vader's plan and they make it to the ship, it will be an easy matter to pick them up.
- It's also possible that Lando's technicians did absolutely nothing in the first place. They didn't even touch the hyperdrive. Vader takes it as read that it's broken beyond repair, not counting on R2-D2 being able to repair it.
- Alternatively, Crix Madine may have had something to do with it. He defected to the Rebellion between Episodes IV and V, but you never know how sincere he actually was.
- Where was Crix Madine during the battle for Hoth? Certainly not anywhere near Echo Base.
- The Falcon used to be Lando's ship, before it belonged to Han. The captain's closet is full of identical outfits, and those clothes actually belonged to Lando. So instead of seeing Lando wearing Han's clothes at the end of Empire Strikes Back, we are actually seeing Han Solo wearing Lando's clothes during the rest of the trilogy.
- Even better: it's the remains of Alderaan. The space slugs never bothered anyone before until their planet was blown apart (they, being Made of Iron, survived when nothing else could). That's why Leia is as surprised as anyone to discover they're inside the mouth of one.
- If that's the case, I imagine that the Empire would try to use this discovery to make them seem more heroic: "Yeah, we destroyed a peaceful planet, but we did it for the greater good! We knew about the space slugs all along-they would've condemned Alderaan to a slow destruction. There was nothing we could do to stop them, ending their lives was a mercy. Trust us-we're the good guys!"
- Jossed in-dialogue. Shortly after escaping the asteroid field, Han pulls his famous [[Refuge in Audacity hide-on-the-pursuing-Star-Destroyer trick. After that, he announces that they're in "The Anoat System," not "The Alderaan System." Moreover, Alderaan is a Core world, while Hoth is deep in the Outer Rim, and the Falcon was limping along at sublight since escaping from Hoth (though that raises the question of how the hell they made it to a completely different star system with the Imperial Fleet breathing down their necks the whole way.)
He's unforgiving and ruthless in ESB is because he's desperate to find Luke and gets angry at anyone who hampers that search. Following Luke's escape into hyperspace Vader simply walks by Piett without a word, demonstrating he doesn't care enough about the Imperial's failure to catch the Falcon to even reprimand him. With Luke already rejecting him, there's not much point to getting upset with any of his officers about it.
Chances are Vader's tenure in the Empire probably resembled what it was on the first Death Star. An intimidating figure to be sure, and one not above being remarkably cruel to his enemies, but likely not the Bad Boss killing his own men at the snap of a finger like he was here.
- One of the best WMGs I've ever read.
- It is likely that he is indeed angry when choking Motti - if you listen carefully you can hear his mechanical breathing get more rapid, and he doesn't show any signs of letting go before Tarkin orders him to. He probably has a notorious temper in general, but I do think you are right that it peaks during this period.
- This fits in with the film's opening prologue, which mentions that Vader is "obsessed with finding young Skywalker". And, previously, he'd been obsessed with finding a way to save Padme and, years later, with finding the Death Star plans. Basically, you'll probably be alright as long as you don't get between Vader and his all-consuming goals.
- Or perhaps this first meeting with Luke was what started Vader on the path back from the Dark Side: his only son just rejected him, was willing to plunge to his (potential) death rather than join him. Luke is a connection with his dead wife, but he cuts Luke's hand off. At the end of ESB Vader is pensive, and when he next meets Luke, he seems to have been contemplating his own relationship with the Dark Side. "It's too late for me, son," he says, as if he wishes it weren't.
- That was a big/long "jealousy" kiss.
- People who insist that Leia only kissed Luke to make Han jealous seem to conveniently forget that that's not the only time she's kissed him (twice in ANH, and once more in ESB towards the end). Clearly, Leia was attracted to both Luke and Han, and if we have to take her "somehow, I've always known" line literally, that means she doesn't have any qualms with Twincest.
- It could be even more complicated than that. Her line "Somehow, I've always known" really means that, from the moment she met Luke, she had some kind of feeling for him. Having been raised as an only child, the only way she can interpret this sudden affection is as some kind of romantic or sexual attraction. Luke has the exact same problem, he never had any siblings to experience brotherly affection for. When they find out they're brother and sister, the pieces fall into place, and what they had (incorrectly) assumed to be a romantic attraction is revealed to be a sibling affection.
- The problem with the original WMG statement rationale is that there was no "master plan" involving the two prior to ESB. In fact Splinter of the Mind's Eye, the novel commissioned initially as an alternate movie storyline, has numerous Ship Tease moments between the two, including a sexually charged moment where Luke briefly admires Leia's body while she changes. One thing to keep in mind is, before Disney bought Lucasfilm, every spin-off novel was considered official canon by Lucas, including Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Fortunately, it was the only novel featuring Luke and Leia to be published prior to Return of the Jedi and its big reveal, so it's the only "problematic" storyline. And, since Disney has now de-canonized all the novels published before The Force Awakens, the point is now moot.
- Maybe the falcon is related to Christine.
- Or the Tardis.
- Surprisingly, even though droids in Star Wars are shown to use advanced AI, with C 3 PO and R 2 D 2 in particular displaying unmistakable signs of sentience, the films have, to date, never established that any spacecraft use AIs.
Leia was right: he does act like a nerf herder since he was one before getting the Falcon.
And Luke Skywalker had to just say "Ridiculous" when he entered the cave. This would turn "Darth Vader" into Dark Helmet immediately. Yoda was expecting this from Luke.
Let's think about this. Firstly, there is no way Luke is going to be trained to anywhere near standard in a matter of days. Obviously the training is compressed film time. But what about Han, Leia, Chewie and the droids pottering about the galaxy with no hyperdrive? Distances between stars are literally light-years apart. It would have taken them time to get there, though possibly with the addition of time dilation, it might not seem so long.
Only problem is, the timeline only gives a year between the battles of Hoth and Endor. Luke's training could conceivably be only a few months, but the others would surely have took years (relative to Dagobah) to make it to Bespin. The solution? One year in the timeline isn't fixed according to how long our Earth takes to go round our sun, but some other planet around another sun, with a much longer orbital time.
- A possible explanation is to invoke time dilation. Without hyperdrive, the Falcon travels along the Ison Corridor (a strip of systems that are unusually close together, including Hoth and Bespin) at maximum sublight speed; the time dilation effect makes the relative trip time noticeably shorter for the crew than the outside observer. Therefore, Luke spends more time training on Dagobah than Han and co. experienced before arriving at Bespin.
- Luke locates Yoda so easily because Dagobah is a very small world. If I understand time dilation (and I don't,) a smaller planet = less gravitational force = time passing more quickly relative to an observer under greater exertion, such as A) Lando and Vader on the "gas giant"-type Bespin or B) Han, Leia and Threepio jetting around at or approaching the speed of light. Yoda and Luke are the "old twin" of Einstein's thought experiment, having racked up significantly more relative "time" than the other characters.
People get shorter when they get old. Yoda officially lived to be 900. When Yoda was young, he was 6 5 and built like Shaquille O'Neal.
- Are you saying that he's secretly a super-old Piccolo?
- Or Yoda is The Doctor at the end of his final incarnation. If "Last of the Timelords" is any indication, Timelords shrink down a lot when they get really old.
- Or Yoda is just an old Kerbal.
- Pretty much canon.
- It's highly unlikely to be that eccentric an orbit (otherwise it would probably be pretty dark as well as cold), but it's probably eccentric that the whole planet freezes over for a good part of the year. I'd imagine it's not called an "ice planet" for nothing, though, and the whole point of the Rebels setting up a secret base there is that it's the least likely place the Empire are likely to find it, its being so inhospitable. So, I'm imagining the warmer regions around the equator/tropics resemble the Arctic Tundra during "summer" whilst the areas nearer the poles stay permanently frozen.
- Well, he visited it in The Clone Wars, certainly.