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So, does anyone have any idea for a re-write for the Star Wars example?

Eric.

Why so serious?

Barely know anything about Star Wars (apparently the famous Luke, I Am Your Father scene was in episode 5, not episode 6 like I thought), so not me.

Easy yes to Eric.

to Eric Gorman.

@emperors: My bad; wasn't paying close enough attention.

It is better to write for yourself and have no public than to write for the public and have no self.

'Yes' to Eric.

EDIT: And 'Yes' to the latest Traitors.

As for Qua, ask and ye shall receive.

• Dark Times: Dezona Qua, despite being a one-issue villain, manages to stand out as one of the most despicable monsters in the Star Wars universe. A noble from the planet Esseles, Qua is hated by most other nobles on the planet for his dealing in slavery, notably that of children. When Dass Jennir comes looking for Resa, one of Qua's latest child slaves, Qua first pathetically tries to buy him off, then reveals he killed and ate Resa, the same fate that befalls most of the slaves he purchases, simply because he could. Qua dies without empathy or remorse, showing no emotion but fondness over how "delicious" Resa was.

edited 19th Oct '16 9:22:07 PM by Ravok

Tonight I dine on monkey soup.

On Qua, I think the quote referring to Resa's death in particular would work beautifully for the quotes page:

Gotta love how subtle this character is.

edited 20th Oct '16 11:25:51 PM by Scraggle

So, any more votes for the two other traitors?

Eric

• Mulan: Mengdu is The Evil Prince of the Rouran tribes. He is first seen ordering some prisoners slaughtered For the Evulz. After being forced to stop by his father, Mengdu suggests that they use their recently-united army to conquer China, kicking off a war that's so severe that China must conscript one man from every military family. After twelve years of fighting, the men are tired of war. Mengdu kills one general who tried to convince the others to go home, kills his father to take over the army, declares that the war will continue and forces his sister to marry him. After Mengdu finds Hua Mulan's army weakened by a sandstorm, he decides to stop them by torturing his POWs to draw the soldiers out and killing them as they do. Soon, Mengdu gets impatient and orders the prisoners slaughtered, only stopping when a prince who happened to be in the army offers himself as a hostage.

Don't' think I'll wait on Eric. If there's no further contention...

Murders in the Zoo: Eric Gorman is a millionaire zoologist and big game hunter who is violently possessive of his wife Eveleyn, to homicidal extremes. Introduced sewing the mouth of a colleague who kissed Evelyn closed and leaving him out in the wilderness to be slaughtered by wild animals, Eric plots to dispose of Roger Hewitt after he catches Evelyn's eye and fatally poisons him with mamba venom at a feast. When Evelyn threatens to expose his crimes, Eric tosses her into a pit to be torn apart by alligators with not an ounce of hesitation. Eric quickly poisons Dr. Woodford afterwards once he catches onto Eric's murders and tries to kill his assistant in a fit of rage after she saves Woodford's life. Even in spite of his charms, Eric is a senselessly violent psychopath who's crimes shocked audiences back in the 1930s and continue to stand out in depravity years later.

edited 19th Oct '16 9:45:44 PM by Scraggle

Ok, I'm finished with the reformat. I just decided to delete the bolded entries.

Just wanted to let everybody know that, due to my system bring set up the way it is, Excalibur is being postponed again.

This movie must really hate you.

@Clown-Face: Take out the natter and unnecessary details. Correct the grammar. Enhance on anything that fully explains why he's a CM. That's what I did with Argile even though I never read Camouflage.

Speaking of re-writes, there's a villain I'm gonna do a rewrite for tomorrow or Friday. I'd do it now but I recently got back from vacation. And unsurprisingly, the world decided to leave a bunch of work on my doorstep I'm currently sorting through. At three in the morning.

edited 20th Oct '16 12:33:35 AM by Tyk5919

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What happened to the write up for The Joker from those two fan films?

jjj

Okay, catching up:

• both traitors and Eric.
• HT (Minister), Ravok, DDD: Please add to the Drafts page (Eric doesn't need to go there, as there's only one pothole).
• Austin: For the fanworks you deleted, I deleted from the YMMV pages as well (if applicable). WTF happened to Janita? And it does look like Yagura from Echoes was a keep?

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Speaking of which, as long as we're doing that, here we go (bobg, ask and ye shall receive ). I've added these to the reformat.

• Batman: City of Scars and Patient J, by Bat in the Sun Productions: The Joker is once again portrayed as an irredeemably wicked monster. Considering himself the Arch-Enemy of Batman, the Joker has committed numerous atrocities just to torture his nemesis, from brutally beating the second Robin, Jason Todd, to death with a crowbar, to targeting Batman's best friend, James Gordon, by murdering the man's wife and paralyzing--and most likely raping--the man's daughter. In Patient J, the Joker is interviewed by a psychologist about his past crimes, all of which he recalls happily, and, when the psychologist begs the Joker to kill him to make himself famous, the Joker instead horrifically maims the man, leaving him alive just to torment him. After escaping from Arkham Asylum in City of Scars, leaving a nurse horrifically scarred in the process, the Joker kidnaps Councilman Johnson and his ten-year-old son, brutally murders the man's wife, then murders a man to steal his ice cream truck. After dousing Johnson with acid to kill him, the Joker plants a bomb on a carnival's ferris wheel, hoping to kill the dozens of children and adults in the surrounding area, before, as a final act of villainy, attempting to gun down Johnson's son. Always an attention-craving showman, the Joker views the mass populace as "puppets" for him to control in his ultimate comedy act, where the punchline is always death for his hundreds of victims.
• Fire Emblem fanfic Fire Emblem Awakening: Invisible Ties: Gangrel is the king of Plegia and the first enemy Chrom, Robin, and the Shepherds face. The son of one of the last Plegian King's nephews to claim the throne, Gangrel uses his authority to harass Ylisse in hopes of instigating a war and destroy the country. He starts off by having his army attack Ylissean border towns, where both soldiers and civilians die, including Themis, Maribelle's homeland. After kidnapping her, Gangrel calls a peace hearing with Emmeryn. After his demands aren't met, he orders hiding soldiers to ambush her and the Shepherds. Finally getting the war he desired, he later captures Emmeryn herself when she insisted on peace. When the Shepherds are cornered thanks to their trump card getting shot down in the rescue, Gangrel gives Chrom a choice, the Fire Emblem or his sister's life. When Emmeryn falls off to ensure her sibling's survival, Gangrel laughs in sick enjoyment while everyone is shocked or grieving. In the last attack on Plegia, the Shepherds encounter Gangrel at the castle gate where he hung the corpses of Commander Phila, Duke Aerir, and Duke Themis, the last of whom is Maribelle's father; Gangrel later recounts to Chrom in their final duel how he enjoyed making them beg for death. Lacking the Freudian Excuse of his game counterpart, Gangrel eventually showed his true colors to horrified Plegians, a mad king who wanted war, blood, and glory.

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts

New proposal, from The Black Cobra.

Who's the candidate?

The unnamed leader of a biker gang. The credits call him the "Bandit Leader," so that's what I'll call him for convenience's sake.

What does he do?

We first see the leader suiting up for a ride with his gang. During this ride, they see a couple on a van they decide they want. The gang attacks, with the men gang-raping the woman while the leader drives the van around. He almost hits the boyfriend, and shoots him In the Back to correct his error.

Later that night, the bikers are brutalizing a woman in her own home. Elys, a photographer, notices this and photographs the leader, who happens to be outside. He and his gang give chase, though she escapes. The leader strangles The Dragon for thinking around him while coming up with a plan to get the incriminating evidence.

The leader learns that Elys is in protective custody at a nearby hospital. He proceeds to grab some guy, chain him to the back of his motorcycle and drive until the sap's killed, all so he can use the blood to make a good seem horribly injured. The Wounded Gazelle Gambit works, and the gang attack, killing a cop in the process, but are thwarted by Robert Malone.

The gang learn that the incriminating pictures are useless due to the flashbulb being too close, but decide to take them anyways Fot The Evulz. They attack Da Chief, beat him with crowbars, kidnap his daughter and threaten to slice her to death if they don't get Malone and the photos by the morning.

At their lair, the leader fights off some homeless people who want to rape the daughter. Pet the Dog, right? WRONG! Immediately afterwards, one of the bikers mentions wanting to rape her, and the leader tells him to wait till the evening.

Our heroes bluff the gang and fight back against them. During the commotion, the leader leaves all his men to die. Malone's not having it, and throws a knife into the man's back. Thus, the gang's reign of terror is put to an end. Woo-hoo, yay...

BUT WAIT! He survived the stabbing and makes a further attempt on Elys's life a few days later. This leads to a final battle where Malone kills him via Neck Snap by car trunk.

Heinousness?

Big Bad, sets it.

Mitigating factors?

The leader disallows drug use in his gang, but this is simply Pragmatic Villainy due to wanting them in top shape.

He claims to be a Well-Intentioned Extremist fighting a corrupt system and only going after the wealthy, but he only mentioned this after beating two of his goons, who were about to hit back, so I'm skeptical to say the least.

Verdict?

edited 20th Oct '16 2:32:10 AM by DemonDuckofDoom

to Eric Gorman and the Bandit Leader.

@ACW: From the looks of it, Echoes was deemed a keep [1] ; as for Janita, I must've accidentally deleted it. I re-added it.

Bandit Leader. I'll chalk up them trying to kill Elys even after finding out the photos she took were useless to Leave No Witnesses.

Okay, so I went ahead and got the new writeup done. Because who needs sleep, right? The villain in question is none other than Joe Carroll. I expanded his entry since the current writeup only describes what he does in Season 1.

Original Entry: Joe Carroll likes to envision himself as a Wicked Cultured chessmaster and architect of darkness and evil. In truth, he is a megalomaniac Serial Killer who killed 14 girls before agent Ryan caught him ten years ago, setting off their mutual obsession with one another. After escaping from jail by killing five guards, Carroll hunts down the only victim to escape him and brutally tortures her to death- first removing her eyes. It is revealed that Carroll has his own cult of serial killers he rules over, encouraging them to "write their own chapters" by committing murder and personally teaches them how to effectively kill a human being. Carroll casually discards his followers when he determines it's necessary, having no remorse leaving them to their fates or forcing them to give their lives for him. A consummate actor, Carroll manipulates his son Joey, with intention of raising him as a killer and refers to Joey as "his best trump card." For his ex-wife, once she rejects Carroll's designs on her by stabbing him, Carroll decides to kill her as well in front of Ryan. When he hears Carol blame herself for not seeing what Joe was sooner, saying she feels like she killed all the girls herself, Carroll seems to comfort her before killing a man in front of her to show her what killing someone is really like, telling her not to take credit for his deeds. Joe Carroll believes people are just pawns or characters in the book he writes and that he can do with them whatever he wants for a good story.

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New Entry: Joe Carroll is a megalomaniac Serial Killer and Ryan Hardy's Arch-Enemy. After escaping prison, Joe hunts down one of his survivors and brutally murders her, first by cutting out her eyes. It's then revealed that Joe is the leader of a cult where he trained dozens to become killers like him. While he pretends to be a kind and genuine cult leader, he sees every one of his members as expendable pawns; even his son is viewed as a "trump card" so he can raise him to be a killer, and he has no problem with killing his ex-wife after she rejects him and tries to kill him. When Joe's cult is dismantled, he resurfaces and teams up with Lily Gray, another cult leader, before abandoning her and her followers to be arrested or killed once things go awry. Joe comes across yet another cult, kills the leaders, and starts training the members to become killers too, which leads to a series of spree killings. When Kingston Tanner calls out Joe on television, his response is to have his son, Preston, kidnapped, force Preston to murder an innocent woman, take a church hostage, and then kidnap Kingston and force him and Preston to kill each other. Joe watches as Kingston kills himself to save his son, and then he murders Preston anyway. After Joe is arrested, he attempts to escape one last time; Joe murders a few prison guards and takes some VIPs hostage before demanding he speak to Ryan Hardy. Once together, Joe threatens to kill the VIPs until Ryan confesses that he gains satisfaction from killing people, just like Joe. A manipulative Wicked Cultured chessmaster, Joe Carroll believes that people are just pawns or disposable characters he needs to fuel his desire to kill.

How's that look? A bit lengthy, but it's just barely under 300 words.

edited 20th Oct '16 4:53:32 AM by Tyk5919

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.

That'll do. You know what to do

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts

New candidate from Modern Warfare 2: Ghost, a comic book companion to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 that details the past of Ensemble Dark Horse Simon "Ghost" Riley, detailing his "death" and "rebirth" into the "Ghost".

Who is the candidate?

Manuel Roba is a Mexican drug dealer, leader of the Zaragoza Drug Cartel, who made his fortune on smuggling Afghan heroin into the United States, and dabbled in terrorist smuggling, making him a high priority target for the United States.

Before the start of the story, he captured Major Vernon, the sole survivor of the second team of US Special Forces sent into Mexico to hunt down Roba, and brainwashed him. He had the brainwashed Vernon returned to the United States and assemble another team to be sent back.

The brainwashed Vernon followed the orders by betraying his new team, doing things like sabotaging one member's parachute, cutting another member's testicles before killing him (because he found out about Vernon being a mole). Vernon turned the group in to Roba, and Riley is among one of them.

After being captured, Roba subjected the squad members to months of torture and brainwashing, involving things such as locking them in a small box with a scorpion, making them fight each other, forcing them awake with drugs and dissecting their bodies to near-death during this drug-induced insomnia. Riley was once hanged from a tree by hooks hooked into his gut.

When Vernon outlives his usefulness, Roba kills Vernon and buries the unturning Riley alive with his corpse.

Riley uses Vernon's jaw to dig himself out, and barely made it back to US alive, returning to UK as a half-broken man. Roba, aware of Riley's escape, uses the successfully brainwashed soldiers, Sparks and Washington, to ruin Riley.

He sent Sparks and Washington back into US to do their jobs as Roba's smuggling agents. When they were transferred to UK, they tracked down Riley, murdered everyone associated with him, including his family, his shrink and his Nice Guy superior, before framing all the murders on Riley's head to ruin his life.

Heinousness?

Erm, not quite sure I guess. The story is a prequel of within the Modern Warfare universe in the Call of Duty franchise, and the world of Modern Warfare already has three established CMs, each with body counts or attempted body counts that go up to "country-wiping" levels. (Zakhaev started a Russian civil war and shot nukes at US Eastern Seaboard, Al-Asad took power in a brutal coup and nuked his own capital city along with 30,000 US troops, Makarov shot up an airport, started WWIII and detonated chemical weapons in every major city in Europe)

More than just that, the series is Gray-and-Black Morality - the heroes also do some less-than-pleasant things. In the comic book, Riley killed Washington and captured Sparks inside a heavily-guarded UK airbase, and personally tortured the location of Roba out of the mouth of his second-in-command, using Roba's own tools as well.

But I guess brutal brainwashing (kinda like Dragovich in Black Ops) is unique in its own direction (no other villain in MW series does that), and he is more evil than the heroes. So maybe he will stand. Maybe.

Freudian Excuse?

Subverted. Before his death, he talked about how his parents were gunned down as collateral damage in a gang war. However, instead of something sympathizing, he said that the incident made him realize that the world is full of people, it won't make a difference if one or two are killed. He believes that everyone is expendable.

Mitigating Factors?

None. He is not played as sympathetic in the slightest. He is just a power-hungry bastard.

Verdict?

Not sure, because the aforementioned heinousness issues. I'll settle with a "Maybe".

PS: I may have messed up some details because I was reading the poorly-translated Chinese version of the comic book. There are also some actions that may have been attributed to Vernon instead of Roba, but the translation is so messy I can't tell.

edited 20th Oct '16 7:41:10 AM by Wuz

Eric and Bandit Leader

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."

Roba

So on the subject of non-Nazi WWII-era potential Complete Monsters, has Sato from Ip Man been discussed? I couldn't find anything other than mention that he was improperly added, but I think he might be a contender.

Who is he? Sato, second-in-command of the Japanese forces occupying Foshan, China during the Second Sino-Japanese War in Ip Man. Occupying Foshan in this case basically boils down to "make the Chinese work labor and occasionally fight each other for rice."

What does he do? He first makes a splash when he shoots a Chinese martial artist for losing a 3-on-1 fight. This wasn't a fight to the death or anything, he just basically thought that the Chinese fighter losing (and trying to keep the rice from his earlier fights) merited death. From there on it's nothing but trying to solve problems with a pistol-shaped hammer. At one point, he gets sent to find the titular Ip Man, the most skilled martial artist in Foshan and who is in hiding. When he does, he makes his presence known by playing with children in the street. Okay, not so bad... except he's playing "soldier" with them by pointing his gun at them and going "bang!" To the kids who don't know any better it's a game, but it's treated as a moment of horror for the parents. He repeatedly advocates Why Don't You Just Shoot Him? and at the climax of the film, when Ip wins the climactic duel (a structured duel, by the way. Not a brawl), the guy shoots Ip anyway.

Heinousness? Oh my, yes. The films are... well, they're quite patriotic. And being a Japanese non-martial artist he's easily the single worst human being in the film. To contrast, his superior actually threatens him when he shoots the martial artist because it's dishonorable. The second film introduces a new antagonist that's also a horrible human being, but even he never shoots a defenseless man in the back of the head or points guns at children. The only potential issue here is that this is a historical drama and occurs during the Sino-Japanese war, so since there are clearly atrocities going on off-screen, but they're not really touched upon.

Mitigating Factors Precisely none. He's a sneering Japanese (note: I have nothing against the Japanese but the movie sure does) coward exercising power over people he thinks are inferior.

Verdict I lean towards yes. He's flat and he's a bit pathetic, but that doesn't change the fact that the writers were clearly going for as vile a person as they could get into the movie, and the scene with him play-shooting the kids is honestly a bit chilling.

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I don't think he passes the baseline standard.

'play shooting' kids is a dick move, but it's not CM worthy unless he's actually shooting them

After watching a handful of videos of Betrayal at House on the Hill I might have found yet another two candidates. I'll hold off on proposing them for a day or two. Here are the write-up's for the other two traitors.

• The Traitor from the Haunt Voodoo (who will be Zoe Ingstrom if she's in play) is a Voodoo Doll Artist who creates dolls in the likeness of the people they befriend, as well as collecting their essence to make the dolls cause pain to the people they're based off if the doll is damaged by anybody except for the original person. When the haunt begins, an explorer discovers a journal that's owned by the Traitor and finds out that the journal contains a large amount of photo's of voodoo dolls of the Traitor's previous victims with a red mark slashed on the pictures of every doll of a person that was killed. The explorer discovers that along with the other explorers sans the Traitor, they're next. The Traitor has the voodoo dolls hidden around the mansion, several in areas that will slowly torture the explorers the dolls are based off of such as slowly being burned alive, or suffocating more and more with every passing turn. If the Traitor wins, they cross off the dolls of their newest victims before getting bored and deciding to go and find new "friends".

• The Traitor from the Haunt A Little Night Murder is, along with the other explorers in this particular Haunt, a relative of the wealthy Old Man Presticott. Because The Traitor and Presticott despised each other, The Traitor pushed Presticott to his death prior to the events of the Haunt. When Presticott's lawyer reads his will, the family finds out that, with the exception of The Traitor, they'll be sharing Presticott's wealth if they spend the night inside Presticott's mansion. Wanting the fortune for themselves, The Traitor makes a plan with Presticott's servants to murder The Traitor's family members staying in the mansion before dawn breaks so that they'll receive the fortune instead. If The Traitor suceeds, they go back on their word to split the fortune with the servants, poisoning their drinks so that they'll all die and so The Traitor can be the only one to receive the inheritance. Greedy and with no sense of empathy, The Traitor would murder anybody close to them if it's for the sake of getting rich.

edited 20th Oct '16 10:23:34 AM by Awesomekid42