YMMV / Pokémon Sun and Moon


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    A 
  • Abandon Shipping:
    • During the prerelease period, Professor Kukui was part of a number of popular ships, including Kukui/Sycamore and Kukui/Guzma. And then the full games came out, revealing that he's Happily Married.
    • Also, not many people ship Lillie/Gladion anymore since The Reveal that they're siblings. Of course, that doesn't stop everyone...
  • Accidental Innuendo:
    • Kukui when you first reach his lab can be heard saying this:
      Kukui: Oh yeah, Rockruff! Let's go! Give it everything you got! My body is ready! Woo!
    • The Masked Royal when inviting you to a Battle Royal for the first time:
      Masked Royal: I'll be in the mix, too, yeah! And now we have our foursome. Woo!
    • A Hiker in Route 5 gets in on the action:
      Hiker Gabriel: So! What do you think of the largeness of my area?note 
    • And of course, the infamous "Press A to pound the ingredients!" during Mallow's Trial.
  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Depending on how much weight one gives to certain revelations, the Big Bad can be read as anything from a tragic victim to the most evil villain in the franchise. Lusamine, non-stop: a woman who sadly lost her remaining sanity due to her husband mysteriously disappearing never to be seen again, or a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing from the very start who knew almost nothing about the true meaning of love? Some even think that Nihilego parasitized her prior to the main story's events, thus affecting her emotions to an unimaginable degree.
    • In relation to the above, fan theories often state that the Big Bad had goals that could destroy the world or even the universe, but beyond Lusamine saying she would let the Ultra Beasts wreck the Alolan islands if it made them happy, all she seems to want is to be alone in Ultra Space with the Nihilego. It's just as reasonable to see her plan as ultimately being very small in scale, as it seems she would have just harmlessly stayed in Ultra Space to indulge her obsession with the Ultra Beasts. In this sense, the plot of the game can be seen as an aversion to the world-changing events of previous games, as it's ultimately about saving one woman (and Guzma) from her madness and reuniting her with her kids.
    • Despite Wicke's nice and helpful demeanor, she never openly opposes Lusamine's plans nor does she directly help the heroes in stopping her. Is her neutral stance because she knows that whether or not Lusamine's plans succeed she'll still be the one left in charge of the Aether Foundation? With Lusamine in Ultra Space Wicke will have free reign and if Lusamine is stopped Wicke will be able to avoid punishment. Note that Faba supported Lusamine's plans and he got demoted in the end while Wicke remained the only high-ranking member of the Foundation. And even though Gladion is acting president, he is still a child, meaning that Wicke is most likely the one really running the Foundation. This is supported by the fact that the International Police went to her for help with their secret mission to capture the Ultra Beasts and she gave the player Beast Balls, very expensive Foundation assets, all without Gladion's knowledge.
    • While dark Pokédex entries of questionable credibility have always been present, some of this gen's entries are particularly morbid and cynical. A common explanation is that the Rotom Dex is exaggerating to impress or scare the trainer, as the species is already known across both game and anime canon to scare people for fun. Another interpretation of the entries, on the other hand, is that Rotom is in fact telling you the truth, does not want to Bowdlerize the entries for you and actually wants to show you the true savagery of his fellow Pokémon species. Wicke herself quotes Toxapex's infamous Dex entry when explaining why the Aether Foundation conserves Corsola, with Hau himself commenting that it's like his grandfather says about nature having its scary side, and many Pokédex sidequests throughout the game also quote the entries. This is particularly so of Mega Evolution. While prior, these forms had no Dex info, promotional materials depicted them more as a power-up for the Pokémon. In Sun and Moon however, it is straight up Body Horror and With Great Power Comes Great Insanity. This sudden change in depictions has as such caused many to view Rotom as jealous or there being a rivalry between Z Move users and Mega Evolution, or being seen through the Alolan point of view. Alternatively, it could also be the result of jury rigging a Z ring with a Keystone causing it.
    • A rather minor point of contention, but some think that the leader of Team Skull, Guzma, was purposely dressed by Lusamine to resemble UB-03 Xurkitree, as both wear predominantly black with white accents, have spiky white 'hair', and bands around their wrists and ankles. This is not only based on their resemblance, but the fact that it is implied that Lusamine dressed her daughter, Lillie, to look like UB-01 Nihilego.note  In addition to this, some follow the theory that Lusamine also dressed herself to look like UB-02 Pheromosa.
    • Nanu is the sole police officer of Po Town, Team Skull's base of operations. While in canon it's implied that he stays there to make sure that Team Skull stay where they are and don't do anything too bad, a lot of fans believe he stays there to take care of the Grunts, most of whom are unsuccessful trainers with low self-esteem, living in the very rundown Po Town.
    • Is Kukui's Final Boss battle really to commemorate you becoming the first Champion of Alola? Is he trying to usurp your title, creating the Alola Pokémon League in an attempt to create a title for himself after failing to win the Indigo League?
  • Anti-Climax Boss: Kommo-o, the final Totem that guards the Altar of the Sunne/Moone on Poni Island, can be a bit of a joke, especially if the player has a decently-leveled Fairy-Type, plus the TM for Dazzling Gleam which can be found in the same area. If you missed that, there's Trial Captain Mina voluntarily giving you Fairium Z without even the need for battle. In addition, it's at Level 45, which is lower than most of the trainers you needed to beat to get to it, and its allies are a mere Level 32. And thanks to the limitations of the SOS mechanic, all you have to do is finish off Kommo-o first; it can't call out that dreaded Scizor as long as that ally Hakamo-o is still on the field.
  • Author's Saving Throw:
    • In ORAS, Zinnia's theory of there being an Alternate Universe where Mega Evolution doesn't exist was seen as an out-of-place Diabolus ex Machina that had no actual relevance to the plot. Pokémon Sun and Moon turn it into an actually interesting plot device by implying Anabel is a faller that may have come from the Emerald universe, as well as connecting the theory to the Ultra Beasts and their wormholes.Note 
    • The reveal that Zygarde's other formes will be in the game has caused some fans to sigh in relief, as they were worried that because there wasn't a third version in the previous generation, Zygarde was going to become a Missing Secret, like the Azure Flute in Gen IV.
    • Hyper Training makes one of the stats of your level 100 Pokémon to reach its "full potential" (i.e. make it as though it has 31 IV in that stat) without actually changing the IV.
    • Emboar, Unova's Fire-type starter, was criticized for being the third Fire/Fighting starter in a row, with many fans wishing that it were a Fire/Dark type due to its slightly demonic appearance. Incineroar, Litten's final stage, is exactly that — it's a huge, menacing, wrestling-themed Pokémon like Emboar, but it is indeed a Fire/Dark type and its heel status is heavily played up in its lore.
    • After two decades of neglect, due to being overshadowed by Series Mascot Pikachu, Game Freak has finally listened to fans and given Raichu some much needed attention, granting it an Alolan Form and its own exclusive Z-Move.
    • Quite a few fans have considered the inclusion of Ash-Greninja to be this towards the anime, as if allowing fans to grant it the victory it was denied in the Kalos Finals in the XY&Z anime. Additionally, the penultimate episode of the XY Saga featured Ash releasing his Greninja to help Zygarde, and the fact that it ends up in your possession with the OT "Ash" could suggest that it somehow ended up in your hands (although the anime and games are separate continuities, so this may be more of a Mythology Gag than anything else).
    • One of the major criticisms levelled against X and Y was how bland, annoying and underdeveloped the main supporting cast were. Sun and Moon fix this, as Lillie and Hau and later Gladion are much more developed and useful characters, and consequently are much more well-liked as a result.
    • Team Flare were often regarded with Gen III's Teams Magma and Aqua as being one of the worst villainous teams within the series; in Flare's case, this was due to the members' garish uniforms, higher-ups being given almost zero characterization, their underwhelming teams containing only a limited range of lines, the grunts having better teams than the said higher-ups - who in turn suffered from having sporadic appearances until the climax of the campaign against them, in which many felt was rather rushed - along with the poorly-handled reveal of Lysandre as their leader.note  After Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire modified Magma and Aqua's goals to being more logical and following more interesting paths, along with fleshing out their members, they became some of the most beloved teams and this was seen as a step in the right direction. With Team Skull, Game Freak appears to have continued on that road, as the grunts are full of hilarious personality and seen as a joke by the majority of Alola, and many of the members have strong bonds between one another and some tragic hidden characterization with complications such as low self-esteem, poverty, abuse and homelessness. Fans latched onto them from the moment of their reveal and beyond, and many share the same sentiments for Aether's surprise reveal as the true villains, diverse teams and even more character depth.
    • The Final Boss appeals to fans in a few ways. One, the fight could be seen as an apology for Sycamore not being the Champion, which disappointed many fans in Pokémon X and Y. Two, the fact that the Final Boss is actually really challenging and has a status as That One Boss can make up for Pokémon X and Y having a rather disappointing Final Boss fight. Three, the fight acts as a huge nod to the dummied out fight with Professor Oak from Gen I. And finally, after going through the entire game of never seeing the starter that's strong against yours, it turns out that the ace Pokémon of the Final Boss so happens to be the final evolution of that starter's line.
    • Many people were disappointed that in previous games, the title Legendary served almost no purpose other than being used as a weapon for the villainous team, and thus being given very little time to develop. In Sun & Moon, Nebby is introduced at the beginning of the game, even before the player gets their starter, and develops alongside the player throughout the game. Whilst it is still used by Lusamine for her plans, it is not the major point of them and is only used in its weak, un-evolved form.
    • The Dark-type was often seen as the Butt Monkey of all types, due to being the only one without its own Gym or Gym Leader (there are many Dark-type Elite Four members, but no gyms). When Sun and Moon stated that the Gyms would be replaced with Trials and Kahunas, many people thought that, at least for Gen VII, the type's fate was sealed once again. However, the Ula'ula Island Kahuna, Nanu, turned out to be the first non-Elite Four Dark-type specialist in the series, which stopped those fears and turned the character into an Ensemble Darkhorse. It helps that, in defiance of the above tradition, Nanu outright refused to become an Elite Four member.
    • Game Freak is running circles around this trope with the Mega Stones for Mons normally unavailable in Alola. The plus side is that we're still getting them, which means that we'll once again have every Mega in the game. The downside is that you're required to play Online Competitions for them, which a good majority of the playerbase doesn't want to do. Thankfully, they're participation prizes, so you don't need to actually try in the battles, you just need to enter matches, but that's not stopping a lot of players from viewing the requirement as unnecessary gating. In addition, the release schedule for the Stones seems to be incredibly slow, judging by the fact that for the first Competition, only two Mega Stonesnote  were released as prizes. Then some time after the initial announcement, Game Freak revealed that the Mega Stones would be available via codes to all players a few months after the competition, though some maintain that they should've done that to start with.
    • A very minor one that's easily missed, but Furfrou now reverts back to its Natural Form after removing it from the PC rather than depositing it in there. This means that you can now put Furfrou into a Battle Box and use one of its trimmed forms in multiplayer and at the Battle Tree—prior, you could only use its Natural Form.
    • The GTS has the option of filtering out potentially unfair trades when seeking Pokemon such as ignoring any trades demanding legendary/mythical Pokemon, specific parameters involving whether or not the Pokemon offered can be from your region, and only showing demands that match what you currently have in stock.
  • Awesome Music:
    • What has appeared in the trailers has some standout tracks, among them the Team Skull Encounter Theme and several spooky tribal sounding themes, especially the theme in the Cinematic Trailer.
    • The Kahuna battle theme. Intense, and reminiscent of a Gym Leader track (they even share the same Victory tune when you defeat them).
    • The amazing guitar remix of the Kanto Rival theme, accompanying the reveal of Red and Blue's return.
    • The battle theme of the Alola Elite Four is tense!
    • The battle against Motherbeast Lusamine is amazing in the fight against her and fits very well.
    • The theme for when you defend your title as Champion, thus making it your theme, is absolutely stellar.
    • Gladion's theme has a great bass guitar and is an extremely catchy tune reminiscent of Hugh's battle theme from Black 2 and White 2, while also sounding like something out of a Mega Man game. His encounter theme is just as amazing.
    • The island guardians have a very awesome theme that is a good example of the above-mentioned tribal sounding music.
    • The theme that plays when you go up the Altar of the Sunne/Moone sets up a perfect amount of atmosphere and awe. What you're climbing up is essentially a mountain, and this track heavily emphasizes this feeling of what you're about to accomplish, which, of course, is playing the flutes that awaken the legendary Pokémon, which, as it turns out, is Nebby (as its first evolution, Cosmoem.)
    • The Legendary Pokémon theme is just as exhilarating. Abandoning the traditional leitmotifs of its predecessor Legendaries, this theme gives off the tense, other-worldly presence about these particular Legendaries, a.k.a. Nebby. This song also plays when you encounter the last Legendary in the game, Necrozma.
    • The Ultra Beast theme relies heavily on synthesizers to emphasize how unnatural the Ultra Beasts are, making for a tense battle.

    B 
  • Best Boss Ever:
    • The final battle against the Big Bad has her take on a terrifying "Motherbeast" form, use a full team of Pokémon with Totem-like stat boosts, and has amazing music.
    • The Final Boss is loved by a vast majority of the fanbase, for having (once again) amazing music, being the region's professor, something fans have wanted to see happen for decades and a Mythology Gag to a Dummied Out battle with Professor Oak in Pokémon Red and Blue as well as being a challenging fight for a change after the Sequel Difficulty Drop of Generation 6, using a wide variety of Pokémon types with competitive-level strategies (leading with a Stealth Rock setter, using Whirlwind to do extra hazard damage). The fact that this time, you are the Champion defending your title is also seen as a welcomed change and a fitting tribute for the series' 20th anniversary.
  • Better Than Canon: There are fan-made mods that add in new trainers to the game. Some examples of said mods being Ash, Serena, Rusty, Peanut Butter, and so on.
  • Big Lipped Alligator Moment: There is an amnesiac man in the middle of Haina Desert, just before the Ruins of Abundance. The only thing he remembers is the shape of a Pokémon whose name begins with "Sol" in Sun and "Lun" in Moon. You'd think it's a reference to the cover legendaries, but he's actually referring to Solrock and Lunatone, which can only be traded over from the Gen VI games. Talking to him again with them in your party jogs his memory, and he talks about how he gifted the Star Power that the Pokémon gave him to a group of trustworthy men 30 years ago. His work finished and his memory restored, he gifts a player either a Sun Stone or Moon Stone in their respective titles, and returns home...in space, by spinning and rising into the sky as if under a tractor beam. He has no significance to the plot. That said, certain hints such as the mention of the group of men and the implication that the "star pulses" are none other than the O-Powers (before he regains his memories, Solrock/Lunatone produce a flash of light and the O-Power noise) imply that the man may have been the first person to bring O-Powers to Earth and gave them to the men who would eventually become Mr. Bonding, thus finally bringing Mr. Bonding's story full circle.
  • Breather Boss:
    • In the Post-Game quest, Kartana (exclusive to Sun) and Pheromosa (exclusive to Moon) both have a catch rate of 255, meaning you can just chuck a Beast Ball at them from the get-go and be done with them.
    • Totem Vikavolt can be considered one, as it doesn't have any attacks to take advantage of its massive Special Attack stat, not to mention it's fairly slow. It helps that the two Totems it's sandwiched between, Lurantis and Mimikyu, are considered much more difficult opponents.
  • Breather Level: Mt. Lanakila. It follows the difficult gauntlet that is Vast Poni Canyon (effectively the Victory Road of the game), but is very short and only has two Rival Battles (similar to Gold/Silver's Victory Road), with a lot of the wild Pokémon being unevolved. It's a nice breather before the tough Pokémon League challenge.
  • Broken Base: Now has its own page.

    C 
  • Captain Obvious Reveal:
    • Many people weren't surprised that the Aether Foundation were the true antagonists, because there are many examples of "pure" archetypes actually being evil, and with Lusamine as their leader, it was the perfect opportunity for the main series to have its first female Big Bad. Even the game doesn't bother keeping it a secret, since the very first scene has Lillie running for dear life from some of the employees, one of them sporting a Slasher Smile.
    • Cosmog eventually evolving into Solgaleo/Lunala is supposed to be a twist. While it works a little better in Sun since Solgaleo looks and sounds nothing like Cosmog, it's pretty easy for a Moon player to deduce Cosmog's deal, as it and Lunala share a color scheme, gold appendages, a pair of "wings", and a similar cry. However, it should be noted that Cosmog's evolution, Cosmoem, has a strikingly similar appearance to Solgaleo, resembling the lion's mane and directly segueing into the Legendary forms.
  • Common Knowledge:
    • One fandom rumor surrounding the Ultra Beasts spread like wildfire just after the games were leaked online, namely that the Ultra Beasts had destroyed multiple universes (including alternate universes that Gens I-V were set in, as alluded by Zinnia during the Delta Episode). Many take this as fact in order to play up the horror factor of the Ultra Beasts, and even many tropers on this wiki took the information to be true (it did not help that this theory had the most followers during the post-leak period, when few people would even have the game due to risks associated with hacking, as well as during the early weeks of the games' release, when few people would have reached that point of the game). Within the games themselves, these rumours are only vaguely implied, and while the Ultra Beasts are said to be very dangerous they are not anywhere near the level the rumor stated. The closest thing to them attacking other universes is one of Anabel's (who is strongly suggested to be from the original games' universe) vague memories of defending Battle Tower against a threat before she fell through a Wormhole. Even if the Ultra Beasts were the threat in question, attacking the Battle Tower (and by extension, the Battle Frontier) is a far cry from being capable of destroying an entire universe.
    • Another wildly believed 'fact' is that Guzma failed his island challenge. The only thing that has ever been confirmed in-game is that he failed to become a trial captain. But the fact that he was apparently considered for the position at some point would imply that he did in fact clear them. After all, no one would expect someone to teach a class they failed.
    • Contrary to what some players believe, Professor Kukui is not the champion. The player character is, and Kukui's battle is merely a formality to establish that fact.
  • Complacent Gaming Syndrome:
    • You will see the Tapu's online very, very often. Especially in VGC format.
    • In the Festival Plaza, the most played activity tends to be "Type Match-up Tests!" (and to a lesser extent, "Inverse-type Match-up Tests!") as it has one of the highest Festival Coin payouts.
  • Contested Sequel:
    • In general, Sun and Moon are less polarizing than both sets of Generation VI games and more widely praised by the fandom, but they still have their detractors, mostly for the over-reliance on story and removal of some quality-of-life features and streamlined competitive mechanics from Gen VI. Fans who play Pokémon games mostly for the main quest generally agree that this game is an improvement over Gen VI, with a more likeable cast of characters and the story rivaling the much praised Black and White in terms of complexity. While the detractors, especially the competitive players, dislike how Sun and Moon refuse to expand or outright drop mechanics in Gen VI such as no new Mega Evolutions and the elimination of the PSS, National Dex, Super Training, Hidden Pokémon, Horde Battles and to a lesser extent quality of life features like sitting down on furniture and the Amie minigames.
  • Counterpart Comparison:
    • It is commonly said in the Japanese fandom that the female protagonist shares a striking resemblance to voice actress Aki Toyosaki. Funnily enough, Toyasaki has voiced another female Pokémon protagonist: specifically Rosa, in the animated trailer promoting Black 2 and White 2.
    • Litten has been compared to Shadow the Hedgehog and Ryuko Matoi on account of its colors.
    • Continuing the trend of comparing Pokémon to characters/people, Yungoos (and its evolution Gumshoos) has been compared to Donald Trump, Grubbin is similar to a male Sheargrub, Pikipek bears a similarity to Pearl.
    • Love Live! fans were quick to draw comparisons between Rowlet and Kotori, with their similar color schemes and bird theme.
    • Drampa has a rather similar design to Falcor from The Neverending Story.
    • Vikavolt bears an uncanny resemblance to the Vic Viper. Their attack methods and the designs are suspiciously similar, especially when compared to the Vic Viper with E-Laser equipped. Some even theorize that Vikavolt's awful speed stat and reliance on Agility were intended to further the similarities between the two.
    • Comparisons have been made between Complete Zygarde and Perfect Cell from Dragon Ball Z, both in appearance and their similar concept as a being comprised of foreign cells reaching "completion"; the fact it's literally called "Perfect Zygarde" in the Japanese translations further cements this.
    • In another Super Mario Bros. comparison, Turtonator has been compared to Bowser, since it's a large, bipedal Fire/Dragon turtle Pokémon with a spiky shell.
    • Mudsdale's behavior is like Boxer. Both are huge horses (Mudsdale is based on Boxer's breed, the Clydesdale), and they're very hard-working and loyal.
    • Team Skull's leader, Guzma, has been compared to both Rick Sanchez and Doc Brown. He also looks very similar to Jack Spicer, and a few people even think he looks like Marty or Enzo Amore.
    • Alolan Raticate has been compared to Remy from Ratatouille due to both of them being rats whose Picky Eater tendencies make them useful for cooking.
    • The Ultra Beasts, being creatures that are neither human nor Pokémon, pose a threat to both and are somewhat Lovecraftian, have been compared to the D-Reaper. This isn't surprising, because both Digimon Tamers and Pokémon Sun and Moon are deconstructions of their respective series. Some fans also like to draw comparisons between the Ultra Beasts and Missingno., as both are basically seen as abominations that don't belong in the Pokémon world.
      • Guzzlord, A.K.A. UB-05 Glutton, seems to be a cross between Gluttony and Pride (The manga/Brotherhood version, not the 2003 anime version) from Fullmetal Alchemist.
    • Oranguru has gotten some comparisons with King Louie, thanks to its design (which bears a resemblance to how Louie looks in the remake) and its description stating that it is often seen doing or being interested in human-like activities, including using Poké Balls.
    • Lycanroc's Midday and Midnight forms have been heavily compared to Kaden and Keaton, respectively, due to their designs and poses in their official artwork, which are heavily reminiscent of Kaden and Keaton's promoted classes (the Nine-Tails and Wolfssegner respectively), as this image demonstrates.
    • Incineroar, ever since it was first leaked, has been compared to Rath from Ben 10, thanks to its design as a giant bipedal feline wrestler. Fittingly, Rath's infamous "LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHIN" speeches have been used by members of the fanbase whenever Incineroar is brought up. There are others who have compared him to Zangief of Street Fighter and the popular manga wrestling hero Tiger Mask.
    • Decidueye has been compared to Oliver Queen because they're both archers with a green color scheme. Decidueye has thus been given the Fan Nickname "Owliver Queen". Many people have also likened Decidueye to Takumi from Fire Emblem Fates, due to both of them being archers and for Decidueye taking on the Ghost typing and firing ghostly purple arrows, similar to Takumi's possessed state in Conquest. There are others who have compared Decidueye towards Robin Damashii due to being green-themed ghost archers.
    • Primarina has been compared to Azura from Fire Emblem Fates, both being blue-haired singers with magical control over water. They have also likened Primarina to Cure Mermaid of Go! Princess Pretty Cure due to both their similar design schemes and their magical control over water.
    • The instant it was revealed, Alolan Persian immediately attracted comparisons (whether affectionately or derisively) to Garfield thanks to its large round head and face, which bears an uncanny resemblance to the famous fat cat.
    • It has also been noted that Palossand, design-wise, bears remarkable resemblance to DesertMan.exe from Mega Man Battle Network.
    • Lusamine, due to her role as the real Big Bad, her obsession with beauty and creatures from another world with these creatures being all parasites, and the fact that she's the mother of two central characters has drawn a bevy of comparisons to Ragyo Kiryuin, to the point where several fans believe that the former is a full blown Expy of the latter, and the only major difference between them is that Lusamine didn't sexually abuse her children (even then, it's not stated in-game whether she did, which some people have taken advantage of). To accentuate the parallels, she "wears" an enhancing alien lifeform in her final battle with both of those beings being the second in command. There's also the fact that 2 of Lusamine's frozen Pokemon are Pyukumuku which has their signature move being Purify. By extension, Lillie and Gladion have been compared to Satsuki and Ryuko as both duos are siblings with white and black colour schemes rebelling against an abusive parent to save the world from an alien threat. In fact, Pokémon Sun and Moon's story as a whole and majority of its character designs draw inspiration from Kill la Kill to such an extent that one can't help but wonder if the former was a Whole Plot Reference of the latter. The uncanny resemblance between the two works has not gone unnoticed by fans.
      • She is also quite similar to Nergal from Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade. Both lost their spouses beyond a portal to a realm of powerful beings and undertook some very amoral research in order to rescue them. They both went completely insane and forgot their original goals but still wanted to open the portal in order to unleash those powerful beings into the world and obtain their power. They both manipulate the leader of a criminal organization to serve their ends. Both have one eye covered (Nergal's by a turban, Lusamine's by Peek-a-Bangs). And like Nergal, Lusamine is the parent of two siblings- a boy and a girl- who become allies to the main character.
      • Speaking of Gainax, she also bears a resemblance to Stocking Anarchy, if you take note of her hairstyle and eye shape.
      • She's also quite similar to Sofia Lamb; both are mothers hell-bent on their ambitions, to the extent where they'll become abusive mothers to their children (though Lamb only has a daughter), both claim to be working for the common welfare while the truth is anything but, and their children/child rebels against them in kind for their callousness.
      • There are even some similarities to Miyo Takano; both are attractive blonde haired women who started out motivated in their work by love for someone important to them (Miyo's Grandfather, Lusamine's husband) but contracted something (Hinamizawa Syndrome, Nihilego's neurotoxins) that altered their state of mind and caused Motive Decay to the point where they're ambitious, ruthless, murderous psychopaths who believe It's All About Me and hope to achieve some sort of divine status for themselves, and both of them pose as nice, caring people to mask their true madness and evil.
      • She also shares many similarities with President Haltmann. Both are wealthy presidents who serve as the game's Big Bad and among the darkest villains in their respective series. Both have an antagonistic relationship with their daughters and an extremely Dark and Troubled Past, in which they lost their loved ones to an alternate dimension while conducting an experiment. Both intensively studied but were eventually controlled by the same thing that took their loved ones away (Nihilego for Lusamine, Star Dream for Haltmann), and eventually grew to treat it as their Replacement Goldfish. By the end of the game, both fuse with the thing they valued so much.
    • Gladion has also been likened to Yuri Plisetsky. Both have the same hairstyle and eye color, and are angry, brooding teenagers who are extremely prideful of one of their talents (Battling for Gladion, figure skating for Yuri).
    • Anabel's new look of long purple hair, a business suit, gloves, and her role as the head of the International Police Ultra Beast division has many people comparing her to Kyouko Kirigiri.
    • Pokémon Trainer Red's appearance in this game has been compared to Jotaro Kujo due to his hat-holding pose, ever stoic nature and legendary status in their series' respective sequels. For that matter, with Blue being his best friend, having green Color Motifs, and most of all his sunglasses-holding pose, has been compared to Noriaki Kakyoin. It helps that the Red-Jotaro comparison has been made long before this game.
      • In the Japanese fandom, he has often been compared to Ryu. As if to add onto this, much like Jotaro above, they're both stoic men from their equivilants of Japan, with legendary status in their sport of choice, and this game's Blue's is strikingly similar to Ken in personality.
    • Mina is frequently compared to an Inkling, considering both are associated with artistic coloring substances (Mina with paint and the Inklings with ink) and occasionally utilize Totally Radical speech. Additionally, Mina's hair is styled in a way that's similar to the female Inkling's tentacles.
    • Nanu sees some comparisons to Ichimatsu Matsuno due to their lazy and cynical demeanor, and their affinity towards cats.
    • Lusamine, Faba and Wicke are compared to Count Bleck, Dimentio and Nastasia at times. This is due to the fact that both Lusamine and Count Bleck are extremely tragic antagonists who went insane over their lovers going missing; Faba and Dimentio for both being quite intelligent, but also arrogant, and secretly not liking who they're working for; while neither Wicke and Nastasia can be fought, nor themselves truly evil.
    • Alolan Sandslash has drawn comparisons to Sonic due to both being blue-coloured hedgehogs fond of Rolling Attacks (even though Sandslash is technically a pangolin). Bonus points for Sandslash's Hidden Ability allowing it to GO FAST in hail.
    • Necrozma is very similar to Zearth from Bokurano. Both resemble armored, black Humongous Mecha that come from parallel universes that fight with laser weapons.
    • Magearna has drawn some comparisons to Baby from Five Nights at Freddy's: Sister Location, being pigtailed, female coded robots that unwittingly and unwillingly take the life of things around it; Magearna by taking the life energy of injured Pokémon nearby and Baby by snatching and crushing lone children in her chest cavity.
    • Lillie is similar to Lilo. Both are girls who live in an area based off Hawaii, and adopt a cute alien that was used in experiments and is being pursued by a group that wants it back. Both Cosmog and Stitch (in the second movie) also have a Disney Death.
      • Lillie can also be compared with Balthier of Final Fantasy XII, as both of them watched as a parent gradually went insane over research, causing both of them to run away to escape the influence of their parent. Towards the climax of both games, the two open up about their pasts to the player, and must confront the parent, who summons a monster as aid.
    • Lillie and her family can be compared to the Clover family of BlazBlue fame, with Lusamine being similar to Relius, as there was an influential event in both of their lives that caused their respective Face–Heel Turn. With Relius, it was his trip to the Boundary and seeing the physical manifestation of a soul for himself, and with Lusamine it was discovering Ultra Beasts from her husband's research. Thankfully, neither Lillie nor Gladion suffered the same fate as Ada Clover, and Lillie didn't perform her own Face–Heel Turn like Carl did toward the end of Central Fiction.
  • Creepy Cute:
    • Surprisingly, each and every one of the Ultra Beasts turn out to be this in Refresh:
      • Nihilego, despite being a parasitic lifeform, is absolutely adorable when interacted with in Pokémon Refresh. Despite lacking any facial features like Xurkitree, is surprisingly expressive such as doing spins of joy when happy, and, should the player decide to be cruel and hit it by rapidly tapping it or throw away a Poke Bean, fearfully pulling down the "brim" of its hat-like bell to hide away from you.
      • Buzzwole may be a massive, muscular mansquito, but the fact that it flexes at everything (even upon fainting) makes it seem less like a monster bent on destroying the world, and more like a Large Ham that just wants to show off. It's "angry" animation in Refresh is really just a dismissive wave!
      • Pheromosa's default expression in Pokémon Refresh looks rather forlorn, but its face briefly lights up whenever you feed or pet it. Awww!
      • Xurkitree may be an eerie, faceless tree-like tangle of tentacular wires that borders on Humanoid Abomination, but there's no denying that its happy dance in Pokémon Refresh is neat and adorable. Its scrapped running animation even has it skipping around in a hilarious, super-joyful fashion.
      • Kartana, a fatally deadly living blade has animations in Refresh that could only ever be compared to an excited little child. It even floats around happily!
      • Celesteela, who is otherwise some kind of gigantic, ominous biological spacecraft, has a tiny, adorable smile. It's impossible to take seriously in Pokémon Refresh, even when it gets really angry, as it just kinda shakes it head as if to say "No, no, no!". The sound it makes when it sleeps is also adorable.
      • Guzzlord might be the most eldritch and aggressive of all Ultra Beasts and probably would pass as a final boss in any other RPG. However, once you go to Pokémon Refresh with it, it turns out to be the most expressive of the Beasts, behaving like a huge interdimensional puppy. One of its potential reactions should you be mean to it is so sad that it's extremely adorable.
    • Per usual for many Ghost-types, Sandygast and Palossand. For a pair of demonic, soul-sucking piles of ghost sand capable of possession and mind-control, this line is pretty cute with their constant, hilariously sad-yet-shocked expressions, stubby arms, and shovel hats.
    • Mimikyu. Its first appearance as a totem is Nightmare Fuel and its appearance invokes uncanny valley, but once you know its true nature and that it just wants to be loved, you'll want to hug it.
  • Critical Dissonance: As per usual with the series, critical reception for Sun and Moon has been very positive, to the point of widespread acclaim. The fandom, on the other hand, is much more polarized, with many people praising the games for their surprising depth and story as well as their many improvements over Pokémon X and Y, but with many people also criticizing the game for having bad pacing, an overemphasis on story, many features from the previous generation being removed and a shallow range of available Pokémon in-game compared to the past couple of generations. Additionally, while the games' Metacritic scores (both user and critic) are slightly lower than the Generation V and VI games, fan opinion is overall slightly higher for Gen VII than for those two previous generations.
  • Crosses the Line Twice:
    • Drifloon's Sun entry returns the Adult Fear of children being taken away, plus one more bit of trivia.
    Stories go that it grabs the hands of small children and drags them away to the afterlife. It dislikes heavy children.

    D-G 
  • Demonic Spiders: While the Battle Tree in the post-game is more difficult than the Battle Maison in general, there are a few Pokémon that can randomly come up that can really tear a team apart.
    • Barbaracle, for example, has two powerful STAB moves in Razor Shell and Stone Edge, uses Shell Smash to increase its Attack and Speed to sweeping levels, has enough bulk to typically survive an attack to get that Shell Smash off, and to top it off it also has Double Team and is holding a Bright Powder, which can make hitting it difficult.
    • Defensive Wall Pokémon such as Umbreon (With Confuse Ray, Curse, and Moonlight) or Pelipper (with Toxic, Stockpile, and Roost) can also be a headache if they are allowed to set-up and you don't have a way to shut them down after (like Toxic or a good STAB).
    • Espeon tends to pack the awful combination of Yawn and Protect while outspeeding almost everything, effectively shutting down any attempt at sweeping or setting up by forcing you to switch Pokémon or else end up losing one. It also comes with a Focus Sash so it can at least take two hits before going down.
    • Crobat is like fighting a Darkrai that isn't banned. With 130 speed, it's sure to outspeed your team, and its favorite tactic is to use Hypnosis, a move that puts you to sleep every time it lands. Hypnosis has 60% accuracy, but it doesn't feel like it when the opponent uses that move. Crobat has the nice little power to usually land this move and slowly erase you from existence with Air Slash or X-Scissor. Waking up in time? The AI predicts this and uses Hypnosis right at the time. While Gardevoir can also do this, there's a great difference between 80 Speed and 130 Speed.
    • Gengar is just as bad as Crobat, if not worse. In addition to the blistering speed and use of Hypnosis, Gengar also packs Dream Eater, which deals a good amount of damage and allows Gengar to heal off all the damage you dealt to it. Even if you do somehow outpace Gengar, you're still not in the clear, because Gengar holds a Focus Sash, all but guaranteeing that it will survive a hit and retaliate with Hypnosis. The end result is a Pokémon that can outpace just about anything you throw at it and put them to sleep and more often than not has two full health bars to work with.
    • Whimsicott have the potential to carry the dreaded subseed set. They also tend to carry Cotton Guard, shutting down any physical attackers hoping get a kill on it.
    • Considering Aerodactyl's already one of the fastest Pokémon out there, the fact that has a chance of holding a Choice Scarf makes it even more difficult to outspeed. Additionally, it typically carries Rock Slide, which hits both opponents in Double and Multi Battles and has a chance of making its targets flinch.
    • Out in the wild, Salandit are usually found packing Dragon Rage, a set 40 BP move, which will be more than half your health at the stage of the game you normally find them in. While they're usually knocked out fairly easily, if you're trying to capture one, odds are it will call for help while you're trying to weaken it. Two Dragon Rages is almost guaranteed to KO anything you have at that point.
  • Draco in Leather Pants: Guzma sometimes gets this treatment - given his hammy personality, wealth of funny lines to his name, and Team Skull's reputation both in and out-of-game as generally harmless villains, it's easy to forget that he's still fairly ruthless and unhinged, as well as the fact that he was allied with Lusamine for the last part of the main story. The last part is alleviated somewhat due to him eventually realizing just how much crazier Lusamine was than him, however.
  • Ending Fatigue: Depending on how long the battle against Tapu Koko takes, the ending can easily go on for nearly 30 minutes with the sheer amount of cutscenes, even longer than Final Fantasy VI's ending. In fact many Youtubers have done videos of the final boss, ending and credits and the whole length is over an hour! It doesn't help that you're given no opportunity to save between the Champion battle and the credits, so you're forced to go through all of this in one sitting.
  • Enjoy the Story, Skip the Game: One reason why fans are divided on Sun and Moon. While the story on its own merits has been met with a lot of praise, possibly even more than that of Pokémon Black and White, some have criticized it for getting in the way of and even obstructing the gameplay.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse:
    • Pokémon:
      • First seen in a split second shot in one of the May 2016 trailers, the adorable Rock puppy Rockruff gathered a lot of fans very quickly and people were keen to guess what it looked like before its official reveal in the July 2016 issue of CoroCoro, which only gave it more fans.
      • The Grubbin line is surprisingly popular for several reasons. Grubbin for being the first Pokémon based on a beetle grub as well as being adorable. Charjabug for its amusing design and its unique ability. Vikavolt for being a badass, menacing stag beetle. Grubbin's evolved forms being Bug/Electric type also makes this line rather well-received.
      • Mimikyu is ridiculously popular for wearing an old, poorly drawn Pikachu rag just to become as popular as Pikachu. As well as being a Ghost/Fairy type and having a unique ability called Disguise that allows it to avoid damage once.
      • Alolan Vulpix and Ninetales gained a lot of fans shortly after their reveal, thanks to their adorable and beautiful designs, and Ninetails' unique Ice/Fairy typing. Being Lillie's first Pokémon in the anime definitely helps.
      • Type: Null's odd design and backstory have captured a lot of speculation to its origins, and most people have flocked to it due to potential Woobie status. Its evolution, Silvally, became a near fan favorite overnight after its reveal for its badass design, all of The Woobie status of Type: Null with an extra dose of heartwarming due to evolving when it recognises that it shares a mutual bond with its trainer, and a unique ability that can make it any type it wants depending on the special item it's holding, an ability very similar to Arceus itself. In fact, it even seems like a deliberate attempt to recreate Arceus both in-universe and out, as implied by the ability name, and this caused no small amount of Fanfic Fuel. Most art of Silvally also portrays it as a Friend to All Living Things, especially Gladion! Awww.
      • Tsareena, the final evolution of Bounsweet, quickly became very popular for her very regal, queen-like appearance and attitude.
      • Golisopod, the badass evolution of Wimpod, was met with an overwhelmingly positive fan reaction thanks to its cool design and its semi-unique type combination (only 1 Pokémon before generation VII possessed it). Helped that it's the signature mon of another fan favorite, Guzma.
      • Alolan Muk is also quite popular for both the changes made to it in terms of gameplay (making it part Dark type and giving it some moves to take advantage of that new typing) and aesthetics (its new colorful design that sets it apart from its base form Grimer more than its original form did). For the former reason, it's become fairly popular in competitive play, largely due to it being a defensively capable Pokémon with only one weakness (Ground-type moves).
    • Humans:
      • Surprisingly enough Youngster Tristan, one of the trainers you have to face when you defend your title in the Pokémon League is receiving a lot of positive reception for being just a kid who managed to beat the Elite Four and being one of the first people you meet when the player moves to Alola. It helps that he does have a very balanced team of multiple types of Pokémon.
      • Hiker David is popular due to him randomly photobombing Kiawe's trial.
      • Considering how she has by far the least screen time out of all the Trial Captains and how she hasn't set up her own trial, Mina is surprisingly popular, with many fans latching on to her "quirky artist" personality.
    • Ultra Beasts:
      • UB-03 Lighting truly known as Xurkitree has been basking in quite a bit of popularity due to its Creepy Awesome design that also resembles Guzma, as well as its cute dancing animation in Pokémon Refresh. In competitive play, it is one of the best Ultra Beasts available, due to its sheer power and having Tail Glow as a move letting it steamroll most stall teams.
      • UB-04 Blaster otherwise known as Celesteela is also quite popular due its almost "beautiful" and "cute" design. Its also popular in competitive play due to the fact that unlike most of the Ultra Beasts, most of its stats are balanced enough that Beast Boost can be tweaked to increase whichever stat the player would want (apart from speed, but even that can be remedied with Autotomize). It also boasts the most powerful Heavy Slam in the whole series, due to being among the heaviest Pokémon and getting STAB on top of that.
  • Even Better Sequel: Despite all the base-breaking over the missing features and dependence on story as well as the polarized fan reaction upon release, it's generally agreed that Sun and Moon combine most of the highlights of Generations V and VI while adding some of their own flavor, resulting in what some fans call the best "generation entry" games that the series has had in a long time and, possibly, among the best games in the series overall.
  • Evil Is Cool:
    • Sure, Guzma might be a ruthless gang leader and Lusamine might be a child-abusing psychopath, but both have been extremely well-received by the fan community. The former's memetic lines and the latter being a terrifyingly effective villainess, as well as both having surprisingly depressing backstories certainly helps matters.
    • This applies to Incineroar in-universe, as its heel act makes it popular with children. While it's a Base-Breaking Character with the fandom, those who do like Incineroar are generally fond of its personality and Dark typing as well. This trope also applies in an enforced sense, as Incineroar is far more popular as a Fire/Dark type than it would have been as another Fire/Fighting type.
  • Evil Is Sexy: Team Skull Admin Plumeria, as well as the true Big Bad, Lusamine.
  • Fanfic Fuel:
    • With new forms and/or types of existing Pokémon are no longer just limited to fan games (like Delta Pokémon in Pokémon Insurgence) or the TCG (Pokémon-EX), and now in the main series as Alola Forms, the floodgates for re-typing and re-designing existing Pokémon has blown wide open.
    • Just what is the connection between Arceus and Silvally?
    • Because she stated she's going to Kanto to start her Pokémon journey, what Pokémon did Lillie choose for her starter, how is it going, and how well is Lusamine recovering with Lillie?
    • The Ultra Beasts come from an entirely different dimension, and can be a lot darker and more bizarre than general Pokémon. Since they come from an entirely different dimension, fans can create any number of their own Ultra Beasts that just didn't make it through the Ultra Wormhole and thus have yet to be discovered.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple:
    • As per the norm with player characters and rivals, the protagonist, Hau, and Lillie are being shipped in various combinations with each other. Hau's canonical crush on Lillie just adds fuel to the fire.
    • Gladion/protagonist has also risen as a a popular ship (more so with the female protagonist), especially in combination with Hau/Lillie.
    • Fans who prefer gay relationships overwhelmingly support Lillie/female PC, Hau/male PC, and Hau/Gladion.
  • Fandom Berserk Button: Comparing Oranguru or Passimian to Harambe is largely considered a Discredited Meme, especially since neither Oranguru nor Passimian is a gorilla. Fans very quickly got tired of it, leading to parody account posts such as these ones.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Much like Gen V before it, Sun and Moon appears to be developing one with the Gen VI games, namely XY and ORAS. The Gen VI fans tend to criticize the games for an overly-complex plot with too many cutscenes, removing many of the competitive battling features that Gen VI introduced, as well as a very small Pokédex when compared to Gen VI (the removal of the National Dex did not help matters) as well as the nerfs to many of the Pokémon who formerly dominated the competitive battling scene. The ORAS fans especially criticize the games for removing the extremely popular DexNav method, which helped to make finding special Pokémon a lot easier. The Gen VII fans, on the other hand, criticize Gen VI (especially XY) as having an extremely vanilla gameplay that did not take the bold risks that SM did, the terrible characterization for XY's protagonists and antagonists alike, a lackluster main plot when compared to SM's surprisingly serious and compelling story, and many of the competitive battling additions in Gen VI being too broken.
    • Despite this, both generations have a heavy emphasis on Generation I Pokémon and nostalgia, which is one thing that fans of both gens mutually enjoy (unlike how fans of Gen V lambast both gens for doing such a thing). However, many such Gen V fans were otherwise won over by Sun and Moon due to the games' depth and innovation, resulting in an internal Broken Base over said pandering.
  • Fanon:
    • The protagonists' names being Elio and Selene. In reality, those are placeholders given to them on promotional materials and they have no official names. The fandom has adopted these names for the sake of being able to call them something.
    • For a while it was a commonly accepted assumption that the protagonist moved to Alola from Sinnoh, until the demo stated they moved from Kanto. Despite being Jossed, this particular fanon still shows up in fanworks on occasion (particularly with those fed up with the amount of references to Generation I).
    • For whatever reason, it's a commonly accepted headcanon that Popplio's nose will make a honking sound akin to a bicycle horn or clown nose when squeezed or poked.
    • Quite a few people think the unusually dark Pokédex entries of this Gen are just Rotom exaggerating to mess with you.
    • The Ultra Beasts' having destroyed the alternate universes of the previous games. Alternate Universes do exist (Anabel is heavily implied to be from the continuity of the original Emerald), but it's never stated that the Ultra Beasts have destroyed any of them, or even really implied outside of one line of Anabel defending the Battle Tower (but saying nothing about an attack on the rest of Hoenn, let alone the entire world), and Ultra Space is pointedly not the universe of a previous game; it's the Ultra Beasts' home dimension.
  • Foe Yay: Corsola and Mareanie (and Mareanie's evolution, Toxapex.) Despite the fact that the two species have a naturally combative and adversarial relationship in the wild, that Mareanie preys on Corsola ruthlessly, and that Corsola is considered an endangered species in Alola because of Mareanie's predation, the two species can breed. It's like Zangoose and Seviper all over again.
  • Fountain of Memes: Guzma, thanks to his hammy personality and hilarious lines, is quickly becoming this.
  • Game Breaker:
    • The Dusk Ball, already one of the best Poké Balls in the series, became even more useful in this generation due to the more generous nighttime time requirements, providing a ludicrous 3.5x catching bonus (nearly twice as good as Ultra Balls, the best all-around Balls that money can buy, and tied with the Net and Dive Balls, which only work against certain Pokémon) for 12 hours of the day, against all wild Pokémon aside from the Ultra Beasts; this includes Legendaries. This is especially apparent in Moon, as the day/night cycle is reversed, meaning that daytime players can benefit from the increased catch rate for most of their day. This doesn't even factor in the postgame ability to reverse the day/night cycle at the Altar of the Sunne/Moone, potentially allowing players to benefit from the Dusk Ball's catch rate at all times of the day. The only Poké Balls that compete are the Timer Ball (after 8+ turns), the Repeat Ball (only on Mons the player already has captured), the Quick Ball (only on the first turn), the various Gen II balls (one of a kind in Sun/Moon, and very situational to boot), the Beast Balls (only on Ultra Beasts), and, of course, the one of a kind, 100% effective Master Ball. Everything else falls by the wayside. They're also available for mass purchase as soon as the second island.
    • It's possible to game Festival Plaza to get effectively infinite Festival Coins. You can then combine this with a trick involving a 2★ Treasure Hunt stall to get effectively infinite Bottle Caps.
  • Genius Bonus: Game Freak really pulled out all the stops to make the new Mons have some details that point towards their inspiration.
    • The three starters have references to the three alchemical principles.
      • When viewed from the front, Rowlet's outline and bowtie give it the appearance of the symbol for salt.
      • Litten's eyes and facial markings create the alchemical symbol for brimstone .
      • Standing on its tail, Popplio takes on the appearance of the symbol for mercury.
    • Solgaleo continues the alchemical theme—since ancient times, it's been known as "the beast that devours the sun." A lion eating a sun is the alchemical symbol for the purification of a metal, hence Solgaleo's Steel-typing. Not only that, steel is a phenomenal reflector of sunlight, which was portrayed by light-based Steel moves such as Flash Cannon and Mirror Shot.
    • Solgaleo's Steel typing can also be attributed to the fact that massive, old stars have a core made of iron, with the metals made from the nuclear fusion of hydrogen and helium into more dense elements.
    • On Lunala's side, there's often rumors that a full moon has a subtle supernatural effect on people's behavior, in addition to the obvious werewolf myth. One of the more supernatural types in Pokémon is the Ghost-type.
    • In cutscenes, Solgaleo and Lunala's respective cries are transliterated as "La-liona" and "Mahina-pea". These are combinations of actual words in the Hawaiian language, with la and liona respectively meaning "sun" and "lion", and mahina and pea similarly meaning "moon" and "bat".
    • Yungoos is said to always be hungry, is not actually native to Alola, and is based on a mongoose. Mongooses in Real Life are an invasive species in Hawaii known for intruding on the prey of other predators in Hawaii to eat more food, causing them to die out. This reference also ties in with Alolan Rattata. According to lore, Rattata were a common pest in Alola, so Yungoos were introduced to control the population; this encouraged Rattata to adapt, becoming nocturnal and gaining the Dark-type to avoid the diurnal Yungoos. In real life, the mongoose was introduced to Hawaii to curb the rat population, but since mongoose were diurnal and rats were noctural, the two species never interacted and mongooses proceeded to prey on other species.
    • Charjabug, a part-Electric-type, looks a lot like a chubby little 9V battery, while its evolution Vikavolt looks similar to jumper cables.
    • Bruxish has sharp teeth and Strong Jaw as an ability. Real-life triggerfish do indeed have a strong jaw with powerful teeth, allowing them to eat shellfish. Its name also references bruxism, an involuntary habit of teeth-grinding. Triggerfish are also the state fish of Hawaii.
    • Cutiefly is based on the bee fly. Real-life bee flies throw their eggs into bee nests, where their larvae prey on the bee larvae while being taken care of by the bees. Its part Fairy-type could be a reference to the bee fly's real-life habit of pulling off a Changeling Tale. Cutiefly's evolution, Ribombee, references the name of the bee fly family, Bombyliidae.
    • Bounsweet is based on an obscure fruit called the mangosteen, which four generations prior also provided the basis for the Magost Berry. Her final evolution Tsareena is also a queen. Not only does it reference the fact that the mangosteen is known as the "Queen of Fruits", she also comes from Tsarina, a term used for a Russian female ruler. This may sound strange at first, as the region takes place in Hawaii, not Russia. However, Russia had a large presence in Hawaii long before the United States did.
    • At first, Mudsdale's large size might seem unrealistic. However, the height and weight measurements are actually not too far off from its origin. Real-life Clydesdales are around six feet tall at the minimum and can weigh up to 2,000 pounds, similar to Mudsdale's giant proportions.
    • Vulpix, Ninetales, Sandshrew, and Sandslash's Alola Forms having Ice as their primary types caused some confusion as they were Ice-type Pokémon in a tropical region. However, tropical snow on tropical island's higher elevations (such as on the top of very tall mountains) is far from an uncommon occurrence. Further, the lore behind the new forms justifies them retreating to such habitats (their preferred habitats were either too crowded or too dangerous).
    • Oricorio is a reference to a group of birds called bird-of-paradise. Birds-of-paradise are tropical birds known for their expressive colorful plumage and their various forms of dancing and singing. To keep with the Hawaiian theme of Alola, they're also likely a nod to Hawaiian honeycreepers, which share a similar colorful appearance and beak. The forms themselves references real world type of dances, and even give Oricorio designs that match typical attire within those dance styles. Each form of Oricorio residing on different islands, along with the above-mentioned Alola forms, is a possible nod to the evolution phenomena allopatric speciation, where a species population gets separated and gradually evolves into different species due to genetic isolation.
    • Alolan Exeggutor's Grass/Dragon typing might not make sense at first. However, it's partially based on the Dragon Tree, explaining the odd typing.
    • It may seem strange for Crabrawler, a Pokémon based on a crab, to not be Water-type. However, this makes far more sense when you realize that Crabrawler is based on the coconut crab, an obscure crustacean that lives on land and can't swim or breathe underwater.
    • Jangmo-o is likely based on the Mo'o, a mythical Hawaiian lizard- hence its lizard like appearance, Dragon-typing, and being native to Alola.
    • Oranguru has the In-Series Nickname "people of the forest." That's what the word "orangutan" means in Malay.
    • The Alolan forms of Grimer and Muk are based on oil slicks. The yellow residue on Grimer references the kind of residue that appears on car engines when water gets into them while the rainbow design of Muk references the rainbow effect that occurs when oil mixes with water.
    • Rowlet is part Grass-type and resembles a barn owl with its heart-shaped face, likely referencing grass owls, which are in the barn owl family and thus share the characteristic face.
    • Despite looking and acting like a wrestler, Incineroar is a Fire/Dark-type, not a Fire/Fighting-type. This might look like it was just done in order to create a Fire-type wrestler without angering the fans, but Incineroar is based on a heel wrestler, known for underhanded tactics much like Dark-type Pokémon. That bait and switch might even be intentional, as many heels cultivate a persona that encourages the audience to view them as a Hate Sink. And not only that, but the "real fighters" (That is, the face wrestlers) always beat the heel.
    • The weight difference between Type: Null and Silvally is 44.1 lbs. 44.1 kHz is a sampling frequency used for compact discs, which Silvally's Memories are designed to resemble.
    • The fact that Pikipek, a woodpecker Pokémon, eventually evolves into Toucannon, a toucan Pokémon, might not make much sense at first, but in real-life woodpeckers and toucans both belong to the order Piciformes.
    • Cosmoem looks like a neutron star, which are incredibly dense. At 4 inches tall and over 2000 pounds, Cosmeom is the densest Pokémon.
    • Bruxish's signature Ability, Dazzling, might not make sense as to why it can stop priority attacks, unless you know about dazzle camouflage, an unconventional type of concealment used on ships in World War I. Ships were painted in high-contrast stripes with jarring, irregular patterns in order to confuse and visually overwhelm enemies nearby, such that they couldn't tell how far away the ship was, what type of ship it was, the direction it was going, and in some cases, how many ships there actually were. That is, the intent was to cause enemy first strikes to miss, hence why Dazzling prevents priority attacks.
  • Goddamned Bats:
    • Minior are extremely annoying to catch. To start with, it has a low capture rate, though that problem can solved by breaking Minior's shell, making it much easier to catch. The real catch is that it comes with Self-Destruct. Additionally, Minior comes in seven different colors, but what color you get can only be determined by breaking its shell and praying that it doesn't explode, making it quite annoying to try and get the one you want. The only way to get around this is to use a Pokémon that has Damp, which prevents Self-Destruct from working. Thankfully, it does not call for help.
    • Existing overworld encounters in the style of X and Y are back, meaning that you'll be dealing with wild Pokémon attacks even if you have a Repel up. Particularly annoying are the ones nesting in bushes and trees, since they're often unavoidable and there's little indication of a Pokémon hiding there aside from an occasional, easily-missed rustling. There are also burrowing Pokémon (most commonly Diglett and Dugtrio), which move around very quickly and often end up getting in your way. Haina Desert in particular is full of these, making the place even harder to navigate.
    • Berry piles will occasionally have a Crabrawler hiding inside. While this is the only way to catch one, it can be annoying if you just want to do berry collecting and forced to go into a encounter to claim them as your own. And if you think you can just run away from battle and continue your berry harvest, think again. You have to defeat Crabrawler to make it go away.
  • Goddamned Boss: Tapu Fini will test a player's patience when trying to catch it. It starts off with Misty Terrain, which protects it from status conditions, so the player has to wait out five turns before trying to use status moves on it. While its offensive stats are not that high, it still has the high base power Hydro Pump that could put the hurt on your Pokémon. It also has Muddy Water, which has a chance of reducing your Pokémon's accuracy, making your attacks harder to land. It also has Nature's Madness to halve your Pokémon's health, potentially putting it in danger. Finally, it has Aqua Ring, allowing it to restore its health, slowly undoing any damage you may have dealt to it.
  • Good Bad Bugs:
    • Festival Plaza's terrible programming and design has one redeeming feature - by saving before entering, fulfilling all of the requests, switching off wireless after going to the internet connection screen but before confirming that you want to save, it is possible to refresh the requests and allow you to claim more Festival Coins without losing any of the ones you just gained by soft resetting after the connection failure message pops up. Additionally, soft resetting causes the guest records to even out to a number that is usually above ten for each category, making the "meet others" request significantly easier; and the amount of FC you can gain in a short period of time helps mitigate Sophocles' randomized facility offerings as you will level up your plaza quickly.
    • For reasons unknown, any Poke Pelago activities will automatically finish when the clock rolls over from January 31st, 2017 and February 1st, 2017. By setting up some activities, then changing the clocknote  to a minute before 2/1/2017 and letting it roll over, you can force them to finish instantly. This can be abused repeatedly to quickly level grind Pokemon, farm items, and grow Berries. Unfortunately, the 1.2 patch released on May 17th 2017 fixed this glitch.

    H-L 
  • Harsher in Hindsight: When it was revealed, many people mocked Mega Glalie for its goofy design, with the most notable feature being its constantly open mouth. While originally and offhandedly mentioned in its online bio back when Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire were in their pre-release period, depending on the version Sun and Moon confirm this mouth is dislocated or broken, respectively.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • One of the Japanese openings of the anime series (the Johto arc specifically) had a refrain that started with "golden sun and silver moon."
    • Togedemaru is an Electric/Steel-type hedgehognote . Mega Man ZX featured a Pseudoroid called Hedgeshock the Erinaceroid, a robotic hedgehog with electric powers.
    • Prior to the exploit getting patched, hackers could create QR codes that they could scan to inject hacked Pokémon into their games. Come Sun and Moon, and you can use a QR code scanner to get certain event Pokémon note .
    • The Japanese Jungle TCG from 1997 had a Booster Box featuring a Palm Tree Exeggutor on the front. Then came the August 2016 Sun and Moon trailer, which revealed Exeggutor's Alola Form.
    • Pokémon variants were a popular drawing fad around 2014-2015. Come Sun and Moon, and it turns out that Pokémon varying greatly between regions is canon.
    • Similarly to the above, a fan game called Pokémon Insurgence had Delta Pokémon, which were special versions of classic Pokémon with different typings. Fast forward to Sun and Moon, and a very similar concept is introduced. This also applies to the Delta Species line in the Pokémon TCG, which gave majority of Pokémon different typings. For added humour, Delta Species Sandslash is Fighting/Steel.
    • Continuing on this, one common "type swap" in the fandom were Ice-type Vulpix/Ninetales. Take a wild guess as to what type the Vulpix/Ninetales variants are. Goes double if you're a GPX+ user, where a snow-themed (albeit not Ice-type) Vulpix line is a novelty line.
    • During the brief point when the early anime Overtook the Series, it created the uniquely made Orange Islands arc, which featured a tropical region revolved around non-battle quests and other anomalies from the games such as existing Pokémon with appearance and type differences as a result of the climate change. The coincidental resemblance and expansion has even led some fans to theorise Sun and Moon are a spiritual adaptation of the Orange Archipelago region.
    • A much more minor one, but Pokémon Reborn features a Gym Leader named "Cheer Captain Julia," who specializes in Electric-type Pokémon. Oricorio's Pom-Pom form is what type again?
    • Back before the release of Pokémon Black and White, there was a fake Pokémon passed around as real. It was a sad, blue and white fish. Now we have Wishiwashi, who is a fish that fits that description.
    • Raichu's Surf animation in Pokémon Stadium had it use its tail as a surfboard. This would become Alolan Raichu's default stance many years later.
    • Speaking of Raichu, the explanation given to its Alolan variation was that Raichu ate too many, sweet, fluffy pancakes. While that's just a joke explanation by Alolan residents, Raichu's form change actually has something to do with its diet, as stated in its Pokédex entries.. In the Pokémon Paparazzi of the Orange Islands Arc in the anime, Pikachu ate pancakes.
    • The fact that a Fire/Dragon-type was revealed the same day that Ash got defeated by Mega Charizard X, who shares said typing, got a huge laugh out of the fandom.
    • The trading card game has a card called Rocket's Meowth which is labeled as a Dark-type Pokémon. This was likely because it was based on Team Rocket's Meowth (there's a Rocket's Wobbeffet card as well), but Sun and Moon gives us Alolan Meowth, which is... a Dark-type.
    • A running joke among fans is how Snorlax's sprites/models, when ordered by generation, make it appear like it's trying to stand up. It finally accomplished this feat in Gen VI... and, come Gen VII, it gains (via an exclusive Z-Move) the ability to jump to an extreme height, then slam on the opposing Pokémon. Looks like standing up gave it a little too much power.
    • Another meme revolves around the villain teams' first letters spelling out "GRAMPS." Team Skull solidifies this theory, with Team Flare and the Aether Foundation being the odd one out. Or you could interpret it as 'F*** GRAMPS', as shown in this picture. Or some have interpreted the acronym as "GRAMPS AF" to include the Aether Foundation.
    • A very popular image in the Pokémon fandom is a reversed GIF that makes it look like Ash is flinging Pikachu into space. In the animation for Pikachu's Catastropika Z-Move, the Trainer throws Pikachu into the air in a similar manner.
    • It turns out that, years ago, someone made a Fakemon set of electric bugs (though they looked more like batteries and circuits rather than actual bugs), with the middle Evolution being based on a battery with a name similar to Charjabug.
    • Someone back in 2013 drew this piece of fan art of Miles Edgeworth from Ace Attorney as a Noctowl. Three years later, Rowlet, another owl Pokémon, would later get an evolution that has a striking resemblance to Edgeworth.
    • In 2013, a DeviantArt user created a Fire/Dark-type tiger Fakémon named Incineroar. In 2016, Litten's final evolution was revealed to be exactly that (but with a much different design). Many fans promptly hailed the artist as a prophet.
    • It turns out that someone on This Very Wiki thought of the names Sun and Moon long before Nintendo used them.
    • This fanart, featuring Azura from Fire Emblem Fates and Popplio was drawn solely because Azura had water magic. And then Popplio's final form, Primarina, was revealed, which can be easily described as "Azura, but a seal-mermaid".
    • You know about the "Get in the bag Nebby" meme? Well, apparently, on July 8th 2016, this duffel bag with the words "I Love Nebby" written on it came out.
    • As noted by CN themselves, Steven accidentally predicted the three starters' final forms.
    • The usage of Sun and Moon for version titles of the 7th generation isn't completely original because Robopon had already used them for two versions of their game series back in 1998. There's also the vaguely similar Digimon Story games which were titled Sunburst and Moonlight.
    • When images of Pokémon Sun and Moon's Z Crystal were revealed alongside its Japanese logo in early 2016, it was pointed out how it suspiciously resembled a Burst Heart from Pokemon Reburst, right down to the shape. Given that this coincided with fan speculation about the (rather divisive) theory of Ash-Greninja being not just a simple Super Mode, but potentially a Fusion Dance, following its reveal to be usable in-game - the similarity between Z-Crystals and Burst Hearts set the Epileptic Trees over what exactly this could mean, on fire. Consequently, many well-known Pokémon bloggers started referencing the Pokemon Reburst manga, to support their theories that it was going to be the next major game mechanic. While any presumed connection was eventually debunked with the explanation of the Z-Crystals and their Z-Moves … during Pokémon Sun and Moon's climax, the Big Bad does actually end up fusing with the Ultra Beast (later revealed to be extradimensional Pokémon) Nihilego, right before your final battle against them.
    • After Lusamine was revealed someone on Twitter instantly concluded that Lusamine was the main villain and played Blumenkranz with a video of it zooming in onto Lusamine, with the reason being is that it's one of the best villain songs. Turns out Lusamine is a Ragyo Expy.
      • 2 and half years before the games came out someone made a Blumenkranz remix of what it would sound like in a Pokemon game. We actually got Ragyo in a Pokemon game.
    • This fake 4chan "leak" used to "clarify" the leaked Pokémon that would become Decidueye, Incineroar, and Primarina managed to accurately predict a very major plot point in the game; it states that Lillie is the daughter of the game's true villain, who leads a rich company on the artificial island (although the "leak"'s villain is male, and has a completely different goal from the actual games). Afterwards, they posted another false leak on the three Tapus aside from Koko; "Tapu Lele", "Tapu Hee", and "Tapu Lono". "Tapu Lele" outright shares its name (but not its appearance or typing) with one of the actual Tapus, while "Tapu Hee" and ""Tapu Lono" share the Water/Fairy and Grass/Fairy typing with Tapu Fini and Tapu Bulu respectively.
    • These games state that every single Gengar is a former human. Suddenly, Ninetales's curse in Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team sounds much less special... unless Ninetales cursed the human of the legend to become a Gengar precisely because of this. Or all Gengar were cursed humans.
    • When the then-unnamed Nihilego was first revealed in a trailer, many fans jumped to the conclusion that Lillie secretly was the Ultra Beast. Lillie is an Expy of N Harmonia Gropius; a common fan theory about N is that he is secretly a Zoroark in disguise.
    • This Smogon article, titled 'Moves Pokémon SHOULD Have, But Don't' (posted in Generation 4) listed Flygon not having Dragon Dance and implying it should get it. Guess what it got in this game...
  • Hollywood Homely: Supplemental material says that Pyukumuku is considered unappealing to tourists, when the fans consider it to be adorable. In-universe, the person at Hano Grand Resort who enlists your help with chucking Pyukumuku on the beach back into the sea mentions this, and says he doesn't understand why they're seen as abhorrent by people from other regions.
  • Hype Backlash: As with X & Y, several months after their release, Sun and Moon's massive popularity has started to wane and and the arguments of whether they are worthy followups are becoming increasingly heated. Many of the complaints center around whether giving the games a longer story was a good change, removal of features like the National Dex, PSS and O-Powers, controversial features such as Festival Plaza and SOS Battles, and the games' low maingame difficulty, constant cutscenes, and extreme handholding.
  • It's Hard, so it Sucks: Just like what happened to Johto Pokémon in their debut generation, the low encounter rate for several Alola Pokémon makes it frustrating to find them. There's quite a notable number of Pokémon and items that can only be found through the frustrating SOS Battles.
  • It Was His Sled:
    • Lusamine is the Big Bad, and the mother of Lillie and Gladion, with Mohn being their father.
    • Cosmog evolves into Cosmoem, which evolves into the mascot legendaries. This one in particular is very likely to become common knowledge in the future, once later games render them The Artifact and assume you already know this.
    • To a lesser extent, the Ultra Beasts merely being extra-dimensional Pokémon that can be caught and used like any other and having proper names beyond numbers and descriptors.
  • Jerkass Woobie:
    • Mankey and Primeape, according to their new Pokédex entries. Mankey's bad temper keeps it from making any friends (which just makes it even more miserable), whereas Primeape's entry states that the only way for it to find peace is in death.
    • Though Gladion's easily the most unpleasant rival since Silver, his personality makes more sense when it's revealed that his mother is the incredibly oppressive Lusamine. Additionally, he's been living alone for about two years, and he doesn't have too many friends in Team Skull.
    • Guzma, considering a post-game event hints he was abused as a child. That, combined with his rejection from being a Trial Captain, was likely what put him over the deep end and led him to form Team Skull.
  • Les Yay:
    • When Olivia teaches her Z-move after the player defeats her, she instructs them to pay special attention to her hip movements. After she strikes her pose, (which accentuates her posterior), the camera cuts to Lillie, who is watching with a broad smile on her face.
    • Fairly late in the game, Hapu comments that she forgot to tell something to the protagonist, because she had "gotten distracted by Lillie's loveliness."
    • If you enter the room with the two female Grunts bickering over a uniform mix-up, they react differently depending on the player's gender. They merely threaten to beat you up if you're playing as male, but if you're female, they attack you because you're cute and they don't know what else to do.
  • LGBT Fanbase:
    • Kukui has gathered a large gay male fanbase, with dozen of bara fans making fan art of him. The overly alluring nature of his design, while justified by the tropical weather of Alola, makes many fans believe that this was deliberately what the producers wanted from the start.
    • On the other side, both Lusamine and Wicke have been attracting fans of both genders, and have even started being shipped together themselves.
    • Surprisingly, for a quick gag, there are many who ship Kiawe with Hiker David due to former referring to the latter as fine.
    • Ilima's Ambiguous Gender design and the fact that he had not been given any gendered pronouns for some time before the games' release had some people hoping he would be the first official non-binary character in the series. He eventually turned out to be a male, though.
    • Incineroar has proven to be very popular in the Furry Fandom and bara communities thanks to its humanoid and muscular design, which, ironically, are a good part of the reason it's a Base-Breaking Character otherwise. Tangentially related, "he" and Primarina with "her" womanly design are popular subjects to subvert gender expectations (ie. creating a female Incineroar and male Primarina).
    • Related to the two instances of Les Yay above, both Hapu and Lillie have picked up fans for being (possibly) LGBT characters. Even beyond the instance where she admires Olivia's Z-move pose, Lillie appears ready to make an Anguished Declaration of Love to the player regardless of their gender during the ending, and fanon widely perceives her as bisexual. And Hapu's only declaration of attraction towards another character is aimed at Lillie, making the line between Ambiguously Gay and flat-out lesbian very thin indeed.
  • Love to Hate: Lusamine is loved due to her being a Magnificent Bastard as well as being extremely well-written while being hated because of vileness and her being an abusive Evil Matriarch.

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  • Magnificent Bastard: Lusamine may be among the most (if not the most) successful and manipulative villains in the main series. Despite being completely insane, she still manages to successfully run the Aether Foundation by putting on the charade of still being a loving and caring person, and has the entirety of it at her fingertips, the majority of whom do not even know her true intentions. Meanwhile, she secretly freezes dozens of rescued Pokémon and keeps them in her hidden chamber as decorations, and manipulates Guzma and the rest of Team Skull into doing her bidding (meaning that she controls two different organizations at once). She oversaw the project to create Type: Full, a Pokémon intended to emulate Arceus itself, and even though her children successfully managed to escape her, she still indirectly controlled their lives to such an extent that they were in no position to stop her. She nearly kills Nebby in order to open the wormholes, successfully releases at least ten dangerous Ultra Beasts all over Alola, brings Guzma into the wormhole along with herself in order to escape this world, and now that she has what she wants, discards him like a used toy once they arrive in Ultra Space, trapping him for an indefinite time. Virtually the only reason that she managed to be defeated is due to Lillie's newfound determination and your prowess as a trainer, and even when you both confront her, she makes her last stand by fusing with a Nihilego and attempting to kill her own daughter.
  • Memetic Badass:
    • Behold, Tristan, the first Youngster class trainer who managed to beat the Elite Four all on his own.
    • Despite Team Skull's Memetic Loser status, the team's "big sister" Plumeria is getting some of this treatment, especially since she proves tough enough to challenge you for your Champion title in the postgame.
    • Bewear, of all things, became one due to its Fluffy ability letting it take a hit from the likes of Mega Rayquaza. Even more so after the memorable scene in the anime of a Bewear running on water.
    • Lillie, post Character Development, is also considered one for carrying Cosmoem, who weighs over 2000 pounds and is tied with Celesteela for being the heaviest of all Pokémon, throughout the entirety of the journey through Poni Island in her bag. Her chewing out Lusamine before the final battle with the latter earned her some admiration as well.
    • Wanna see what destruction looks like? Here it is in human form - IT'S YA BOI GUZMA!
  • Memetic Loser:
    • Similar to Oshawott and Froakie during the pre-release to Pokémon Black and White and Pokémon X and Y, Popplio received this treatment for initially being overshadowed by Rowlet and Litten in discussion on the game's starters and placing last in many favorite starter polls. Like with pre-release Oshawott and Froakie, Popplio was portrayed as The Woobie with many people expressing their sympathy for it, and hoped that its evolutions would redeem it in peoples' eyes. This turned out to be correct when the games were officially released, as Popplio followed the trend of its predecessors for having a much more elegant and badass evolution in the form of Primarina.
    • Team Skull was a target of sarcastic mockery in some fan circles, mainly due to their street gang aesthetic and designs, as well as the fact that their initial schemes seemed to consist of merely roadblocks and graffiti. As for their members; there's Gladion's constant poker-face and hand gestures, Plumeria's description of her own minions as "stupid", alongside Guzma explicitly being noted as a failed Trial Captain. Many of the same fans also loved them, though, for these exact same reasons, especially since it was confirmed that them being Laughably Evil was 100% intentional. You can even walk away from them during your first encounter with them! However, it was then revealed that Team Skull is not the real villainous team, instead being just a pawn of the Aether Foundation, and that Lusamine essentially manipulated Guzma for her own personal gain. This, combined with Gladion being Lusamine's son and a defector from the Aether Foundation, and when travelling to Po Town made it clear how most of Team Skull's grunts, including Guzma himself, are children from broken homes who failed the Island Challenge and thus had nowhere else to go; Team Skull's reputation as Laughably Evil then considerably died down. Now, fans are more likely to see them as Jerkass Woobies instead.
    • On the competitive side, there's Talonflame. Ever since Gale Wings was nerfed in Sun and Moon so that it only activates when the user has full HP, Talonflame has become the butt of many jokes. The fact that the games also introduced two abilities and one terrain (plus an ability that creates said terrain) that outright prevent priority moves from working and a priority move that Talonflame is x4 weak to doesn't help its status all that much either.
  • Memetic Molester:
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Interpretations of Litten's evolution family as Fire/Fighting-types, thanks to the infamous reputation that type combination got when it was given to the Gen III, IV, and V starters. Ultimately, its final evolution Incineroar was revealed as a Fire/Dark type, but still has a similar design and theme to the earlier Fire/Fighting starters.
    • Fans on both sides of the Pacific have come up with the same amusing "personal reasons" for Lillie choosing to be Professor Kukui's assistant.
    • "The sun/moon is weak to the sun/moon!" Explanation 
    • Yungoos and Gumshoos being compared to Donald Trump based on their hair and perpetual scowls. Alolan Rattata are jokingly compared to illegal immigrants which Yungoos are trying to drive out of Alola. The formers' moustaches don't exactly help discourage any such stereotypes. It has gotten so bad that Wonder Trades often result in people getting these two with nicknames of Donald Trump or anything related to him.
    • The instant it was revealed why Mimikyu dresses up as a Pikachu, there was fan art of it wearing disguises of other popular characters.
    • Alolan Exeggutor's ridiculously long neck has resulted in it being edited onto all sorts of different long skinny things, as well as being compared to characters with very long necks. It's also become popular to make fun of the fact that it's a Dragon-type while Charizard isn't, ignoring or glossing over Mega Charizard X (which predates Alolan Exeggutor by a generation), or give other Pokémon (or even other fictional characters) fake Alola Forms with very long necks, much like how Mega Ampharos inspires many fake Mega Evolutions with fabulous hair.
    • "It's your boy, Guzma!" has become a popular rally cry for fans of Team Skull.
    • As soon as Ash-Greninja was confirmed to be in the game, fans immediately started claiming that its new Battle Bond ability also made it weak to Fire and Dragon-type attacks, referencing Ash-Greninja's loss to Alain's Mega Charizard X in the Kalos League.
    • Many jokes about Alolan Persian and Garfield have been flying around, ranging from calling Alolan Persian the Alolan form of Garfield to joking that it is weak to Mondays.
    • Once the stats for the new Pokémon were revealed, the Alola region was nicknamed as "Aslowla" due to the low base speed shared by almost all the non-legendary, fully evolved Pokémon (including the starters, with Decidueye being the fastest of them with a mere 70 speed), and several jokes were made about it.
    • "The new games feature Battling, Trading, seven generations of Pokémon, regional variations, no microtransactions..." and a list of all "Features" added to the game from Pokemon GO. Adding onto this, "The game will not punish you for not living in a city", in reference to another Scrappy Mechanic from Pokemon GO.
    • "You got this Travis/Rowlet/Dartrix/Decidueye, make them wait for it...BOOM! note 
    • Press A to Pound note 
    • "I see Cosmog is out of the FUCKING BAG again!" note 
    • Constant posts about who the Masked Royal actually is, because it sure isn't Kukui.
    • Lusamine is thinking about those beans.note 
    • "Y'all are stupid!" note 
    • Get Out. note 
    • Gladion's Poké Ball hand twitches. note 
    • Blumenkranz intensifies. spoiler 
    • InCENAroar!! note 
    • A Cruel Zygarde's Thesis note 
    • On Pokémon Sun and Moon-related MMD's, it's becoming rather common to comment that the dances shown in the videos are actually used to activate ridiculously complicated/powerful Z-Moves.
    • Walking Animations: Someone managed to dump all of the game's models and animations, which people promptly began to mix and match in bizarre combinations, such as Lusamine doing Team Skull's hand gestures or Guzma using a child's walk cycle. Olivia's Sexy Walk battle intro is particularly popular.
    • Similarly someone managed to find Dummied Out walking animations for all the Pokémon. Naturally, people have take to putting music, either fitting or inappropriate, to these animations.
    • Due to the scene where Guzma tries to capture a Nihilego in Ultra Space by tackling it, some fans have theorized that he doesn't actually know how to use Poké Balls and caught all of his Pokémon that way.
    • Thanks to not moving during the Supersonic Skystrike Z-Move and its general expression, Toucannon is joked to be capable of flying without using its wings through sheer force of anger alone.
    • Guaranteed Replies note 
    • Thanks to a certain technique for hatching eggs, jokes about the Steel Ball Run have been cracked. It certainly helps that the protagonist will strike a 「Pose」 if you spin them in place for a little, that one of the potentially strongest Steel-type moves that involves spinning to inflict tremendous damage is called the 「Gyro Ball」, and that you need to perform the 「Egg-Hatching Spin」 on the back of a Tauros, rather like how Johnny's Spin is best done from horseback.
    • Alolan Dugtrio's fabulous haircut(s) quickly garnered a flurry of fan art and hilarious comments and comparisons.
    • Puka is an Alolan Pikachu.note 
    • Red and Blue are on their honeymoon.note 
  • Memetic Psychopath:
    • Much like Villager from Super Smash Bros., The player characters have begun getting this treatment due to their perpetual smiles. At least in the western fandom, the female protagonist seems to be more affected; thanks to promotional material showing her using Z-moves (which are more or less the same for either gender) Catastropikanote  and Guardian of Alolanote .
    • Some depictions have a downplayed version featuring Primarina with inappropriate music such as heavy-metal.
  • Memetic Troll: Nebby. It cannot ever be contained by the bag for too long, always getting out and causing trouble and endless grief for Lillie.
  • Moe: This game continues the series trend of having some downright adorable characters, but it stands out more here than the other generations as they have more screentime.
    • Lillie, oh so much. Even more so once she changes her entire outfit, as a sign of having escaped her mother's influence on her, which makes her all the more lovable. She can even be a full-on Tsundere if the player gives any snarky responses to her.
    • Acerola, the Ghost-type trial captain, very much fits this trope. She is immensely loved for her absolutely adorable appearance, movements in-game (most notably her running animation and her Z-Strike pose), her quirky personality and her friendship with Lillie. She even has a uniquely adorable Cat Smile.
    • Lana also qualifies, particularly during her trial when she tries tricking the player character into thinking Kyogre is causing the rainfall there. Similarly to Acerola, her Z-move pose is also very cute.
    • Even if they are customizable characters that lack a consistent appearance, it's hard not to make the player characters cute.
    • Despite being less outwardly emotional than most of the other characters, Hapu manages to be pretty cute as well.
    • The entire characterization of Mimikyu is that it's dependent on you and needs to be cared for, heavily contributing to its immense popularity.
  • Most Wonderful Sound:
    • It would appear that fans consider Stufful's cry to be this.note  It helps that Stufful itself is a cute, fan favorite Pokémon.
  • Narm:
    • The protagonist keeps a mostly unchanging facial expression through the game. This by itself would simply be inappropriate during important plot segments, but it's worse when put together with other characters that are more expressive. For example, during the Ultra Wormhole opening event, the camera panning shows Lillie and Hau being clearly horrified, Gladion being upset, and the protagonist...simply smiling and spacing out. Made more glaring by the fact that there are a couple of cutscenes where their expression does change—namely the first time they witness a wormhole opening and most of the cover legendary-related plot scenes—killing any possible excuse as to why they're so blanked out every other time, along with how the protagonists in the previous generation's games had appropriate expressions during dire cutscenes.
      • This can also be invoked by the player using the customization features. Pick clothing with very clashing and/or conflicting colours, and pair it with a silly looking hat to make your trainer look like a fashion victim. Or if you want, you can make the male trainer look like Loki.
    • The first time a player will likely see the Flying Z-Move, Supersonic Skystrike, is in their battle with Kahili. The move involves the using Pokémon flying high up into the air then dive-bombing onto the enemy Pokémon. This leads into hilarity because she uses the Z-Move on Toucannon. Which isn't flying at all in battle except for one of its attacking animations, which isn't even used in the Z-Move's animation. So the whole move is made hilarious because her Toucannon flies up into the air, completely still as a stone, before ramming beak-first into your Pokémon.
      • The best part? People have hacked the game to give Toucannon Darkest Lariat, a move only Incineroar can normally use. It turned out Toucannon using Darkest Lariat plays much better than using Supersonic Skystrike.
      • Special mention goes to Bewear- a non-flying teddy bear Pokémon — that can also be taught flying moves, thereby allowing it to use Supersonic Skystrike: given that it has no wings and no attack animations that could be applied, the Bewear simply rockets into the air from a standing start, completely horizontal with its back to the ground, only to crash back down to earth on its face, on top of the enemy Pokémon. All the while sporting the same blank, nonplussed expression Bewear always has on its face. It looks completely ridiculous from start to finish.
      • Dugtrio can learn Aerial Ace... which means it can use Supersonic Skystrike too. This leads to a problem considering the developers never intended for Dugtrio to leave the ground.
      • Wailord can learn Bounce...
      • Depending on your luck, it's also possible for any Pokémon that can learn Metronome to use Z-Metronome to use any Z-Move regardless of type, and can even use some Z-Moves normally unique to certain 'mons. This can result in some pretty funny animations as well.
    • Because Incineroar can learn U-Turn or Leech Life, it can use the Z-Bug Move Savage Spin-Out. Said attack has Incineroar thrusting its crotch outwards while it shoots out a deluge of spider web to entrap its target, then swings them around by it. In fact, almost any attack that uses the crotch thrust animation is pretty hilarious (when using Flamethrower, it's insinuated the attack is supposed to be originating from its fiery belt, but it just doesn't look quite right).
    • While visiting Hau'oli Cemetery, the play can encounter a lady and a Machamp at a grave together. The lady tells you a story about how her husband was killed in a crash, how he threw Machamp's Pokéball to safety, and how she used to feel angry at the man who killed her husband, until she realised the other man had a family too. A very touching, moving, poignant and surpisingly dark story. Or at least it would be if the lady were not gathered up in the Machamp's arms the whole time as part of the Pokéride feature. It doesn't help that the TM she gives you for listening is Fling, nor does the Machamp constantly crying "Hyah!".
    • All the trainers you can battle with have one loss animation regardless of their "losing" dialogue. With that in mind it can be hilarious to see, for example, the dialogue of a male Preschooler class suggesting that he's being a Graceful Loser when his losing sprite depicts him throwing a tantrum.
    • Lusamine's Slasher Smile is rather unnerving to look at, even for those who saw it coming. Said character's scowling face on the other hand looks ridiculous. It gives the impression of that character having just lost to the heroes at something much more trivial instead.
    • If you are Australian or know a lot about Australian slang, the Mythical Malasada ad will very likely make you cringe, because they're trying way too hard.
    • Lillie heading off to Kanto is meant to be an incredibly emotional scene, and it does, for the most part, qualify as such. Except for when Lillie gives you her Poké Doll, as the emotional music cuts out suddenly in favor of the "Item Obtained" ditty.
  • Narm Charm: Many of the Z-Moves, such as the aforementioned Supersonic Skystrike, Tectonic Rage, and Twinkle Tackle, can look both ridiculous and absolutely hilarious if used by certain Pokémon. Even if it's difficult to take these massively powerful moves seriously, many fans still enjoy these animations for this reason.
  • Nausea Fuel: The "trash" sidequest involves feeding a Grimer "trash" left by Pokémon, which is strongly implied to be poop. The fact that you carry said "trash" the same way as any other item makes it worse.
  • Nightmare Fuel: The games have their very own page.
  • Nightmare Retardant: The Totem Mimikyu appearing behind you while you're using the Poké Finder during Acerola's trial can be this to some.
  • Older Than They Think:
    • After seeing the May 10 2016 reveal trailer, many people have noted that this was the first Pokémon RPG to have full-sized models for their human characters in the overworld, and appearing on the battle screen. This is technically true... for the handheld games. Pokémon Colosseum had this feature all the way back during Gen III, in 2003.
    • Another small feature is that the Pokédex shows what the Pokémon can evolve into or forms a pair with on the top screen. People claim that it's a new feature, but something like it did exist in the FireRed and LeafGreen Pokédex.
    • The core concept of the Alola region's rite of passage, to challenge four Island Captains in challenges that do not necessarily include Pokémon battles to test separate skills they need as a trainer, is very similar to the Orange Archipelago from the early anime (although that one still used the "Gym Leader" designation). Ditto for Alola's unique versions of earlier Pokémon, as the concept of Pokémon adapting to the climate was also introduced in the Orange League series, which had a Crystal Onix, Pink Pokémon, and a Butterfree with a unique pattern. Them being different types from their regular forms, on the other hand, harkens back to the Delta Pack of the TCG.
    • As mentioned under Hilarious in Hindsight, an Exeggutor with a long and thin trunk first appears on the Japanese artwork of the Jungle booster box of the TCG from 1997.
    • Even the Poké Ride feature, while certainly new to the main series, is far from new to Pokémon as a whole; the concept debuted in the Pokémon Ranger series, specifically Guardian Signs.
    • This isn't the first time we've had an evil team called Team Skull in a Pokémon game—the evil trio of Zubat, Koffing, and Skuntank from Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky also called themselves "Team Skull." (Though only in the English version; they were "Team Poison Rose" in Japan.)
    • Both the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon and Pokémon Rumble series have had non-Pokémon Eldritch Abominations as enemies.
    • A good amount of fans seem to think that color contacts are a new feature, when it actually originated in X/Y. However getting them in X/Y is entirely optional, and only discovered if you happen to talk to a certain NPC. In Sun/Moon you are given them by Lillie during a plot related cutscene.
    • When Ash-Greninja was revealed to be available in a Sun and Moon demo and was implied to actually be Ash's Greninja from the anime, a few fans cried foul over it. However, the anime has always had a major influence on the games; Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire had Steven mention the Mega Evolution Specials when you show him the promotional Shiny Beldum, Pikachu's Pokémon Speak since Gen VI, several movie characters cameoed in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (although their localized names are different), Pokémon Yellow is directly based on the anime, and several characters from the anime had their Pokémon made available in the games through event distributions.
    • Some fans have complained about the Cerebus Retcon in regard to Mega Evolution due to it suddenly turning them into bloodthirsty monsters, even though both the anime (more specifically, Korrina's Lucario) and Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon have showed the dark side of Mega Evolution and how important the bond between the Trainer and the Pokémon is in order for them to control the Mega Evolved Pokémon. Also, the fact that Glalie's jaw breaks after Mega Evolving is something that the official website for ORAS already talked about.
    • You can now get a simple readout of the in-battle stat changes of active Pokémon by pressing a button, and when you target an enemy, you get a readout of whether or not the move you're using will be super-effective, not very effective, or nulled outright. Shin Megami Tensei has had both of these features for years, across multiple games — though SMT beat Pokémon to the punch on being a mons game in the first place, so it makes sense it would be both an innovator, and the model Pokémon draws from.
  • One-Scene Wonder:
    • Ryuki, a mysterious musician/dragon master from an unknown region, who challenges the Alolan Champion. He has an incredibly cool and unique design (some say he looks like a Fusion Dance of Lance, Benga and Mirror B.) yet is never seen anywhere outside of the Elite Four championship match. However, he has made a lasting impression on the fans who encountered him, who hope he may show up once again, either in this game or the next.
    • Hiker David looks no different from any other Hiker and simply triggers a normal Trainer battle when he makes his appearance, but his hilarious introduction of photobombing Kiawe's Trial and immediately battling the player instead of the Marowak has quickly netted him a ton of fans, and is frequently considered one of the most hilarious moments in the game.
  • One True Threesome: Or rather, One True Fivesome. Taking all the different combinations the protagonists, Hau, Lillie, and Gladion are paired in to the logical extreme, a fair number likes to pair them all together at the same time. Though some have reservations since Lillie and Gladion are siblings.
  • Pandering to the Base: Like X and Y, Sun and Moon continue to pander to first generation fandom: The hero and his/her mother moved from Kanto region to Alola, Samson Oak the Prof.Oak cousin, Kukui having taken the Indigo League in the past, the Alola forms being exclusive to Gen I Pokémon, Lillie leaving to be a trainer in Kanto and heal her mother with Bill's help, and the special battles against Red and Blue. Whether this is a good or a bad thing is up to you.

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  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap:
    • Just like Oshawott and Froakie before it, Popplio was widely hated for its ugly design. However, many, many Popplio haters ate their words after the elegant and very strong Primarina was revealed to be its final evolution.
    • Bounsweet was really only remembered for her tendency to be Swallowed Whole by other Pokémon without anyone coming to her aid, and was generally seen as a boring Cherubi clone. However, her evolutions saved her from Scrappyhood due to being absolutely gorgeous and appearing to be useful in battle.
    • Alolan Grimer was seen as a worse version of a Pokémon that was already considered terribly designed. The October 14 trailer revealed its evolution, which fans loved due to its funky and nifty design. For the competitive crowd, Alolan Muk is also proving very useful thanks to a relatively unique defensive typing and stat spread that makes it a good anti-meta tank for Psychic types like Tapu-Lele, as well as the combination of Poison Touch (all contact moves have a 30% Poison chance) and Knock Off (removes held items that aren't Mega Stones or Z-Crystals, items being very important to a Pokémon's function competitively) making it effective at wearing down certain defensive/tank mons.
    • Araquanid was initially seen as a subpar Pokémon thanks to it being too defensively oriented while having middling HP, and bad speed and attack stats. Then it was found out that its ability Water Bubble, besides dampening Fire attacks and preventing burns, had the hidden effect of doubling the power of Water-type moves, allowing it to hit extremely hard with Water moves- harder than Huge Power Azumarill. Many of its detractors changed their decision after the revelation.
    • Bewear was initially shunned for its lackluster design and stat distribution but then its ability, Fluffy, came to light. At the price of gaining a fire weakness, Bewear is able to halve the damage from all contact attacks. This, coupled with its great HP and solid Defensive stats transformed Bewear into one of the better physical walls introduced in the gen. Its anime appearance definitely made it even more well-loved.
    • The fully-evolved Unova starter Pokémon are among the less popular starters in the series for their lackluster competitive worth (prior to Serperior getting its Hidden Ability) and boring stats and type combinations (particularly for the Fire/Fighting-type Emboar). Sun and Moon make them obtainable as rare wild Pokémon via Island Scan as the first fully-evolved starters in the series that can be caught in the wild, making them cooler, more interesting and more rewarding to hunt and catch for many players. It helps that they have subtle dynamics with Alola's own starters (Decidueye has a bit of a Slobs vs. Snobs foil to Serperior, Incineroar is roughly an Evil Counterpart to Emboar, while Primarina is something of a Distaff Counterpart to Samurott).
  • The Scrappy: There's a person riding a Stoutland throughout Heahea City who prevents you from visiting the Hano Grand Resort until Olivia is beaten because they want to find every last hidden object in the city and the bridge connecting it to the resort, with their selfishness and their role as a roadblock both contributing to their hate. By the time the resort becomes available, they'll be on the beach planning to look for even more items, not even apologizing for their hindrance earlier on.
  • Scrappy Mechanic:
    • Pokémon Bank have a quite fair share of it:
      • Transfering Pokémon from Gen I and Gen VI to these games is, yet again, a one-way trip. While it's expected for the Gen I games thanks to Early Installment Weirdness, most aren't happy about not being able to send Gen VI Pokémon back and forth a la Pokémon Gold and Silver, especially since both generations are on the same system and the same service connects them. There's also the fact that it initially wasn't compatible with Sun and Moon until two months after the games' release, a wait that shouldn't have been repeated after the numerous delays in the X and Y era.
      • While all transferred Gen I Pokémon have at least three maximum IVs (though you can't soft reset to ensure they go into the stats you want, which also makes trying to get a specific Hidden Power type a real pain in the backside) and their Hidden Ability, their Natures is all based on the last two digits of the Pokémon's experience (in which case, hope you didn't have a level 100 Pokémon that you didn't want Hardy on). By the way, this isn't something spelled out to you. Gender, on the other hand, is completely random, even though Pokémon Gold and Silver already had a way to consistently determine gender for Pokémon from the original games. While Bank tries to hew closer to Gold and Silver's tactics for determining shininess, it mixes up the roles of the Attack and Defense IVs, so any Pokémon that would have been shiny if sent to a Gen II game won't be when transferred to a modern game, and vice versa.
      • While it's a minor cosmetic difference, all transferred Pokémon appear in normal Poké Balls, so if you're the kind of person who likes using Poké Balls that match a Pokémon's appearance (such as Safari Ball on Tauros or Master Ball on Mewtwo), you'll probably be disappointed. In other minor annoyances, transferring Pokémon up will leave their names in all-caps, and transferring a box containing MissingNo. will cause the names of all Pokémon after it in the box to be shifted around.
      • There are also a number of issues with the games failing to recognize the legitimacy of Pokémon being transferred. Right off the bat, Bank won't allow a Pokémon to be transferred if it knows a move that it couldn't learn in that version, such as a Charizard that was taught Fly in Yellow and was traded to Red for the transfer attempt. Then there are the issues with the Pokémon that got evolutions in later generations: transferring them up to Gen VII and then evolving them convinces the game that they're hacked, preventing them from being traded over online (although local trades seem to work fine); if you were foolish enough to get someone to help you with a trade-based evolution, you won't be getting your Pokémon back.
    • When you go and get a haircut, not only are you unable to preview what the haircut is going to look like (unlike with clothing), but they take your money upfront, so you can't back out of it. And haircuts are not cheap, especially at the beginning of the game.
    • Unlike in X and Y, where you could try on multiple clothing items at once and then buy the whole outfit in one go once you were happy with it, you can only try on clothing items one at a time without buying them—if you switch to another category, you'll lose whatever you were trying on from the previous category. This makes building a full outfit very frustrating and expensive.
    • The SOS system has proven to be a rather divisive gameplay mechanic, in which a wild Pokémon will call for backup. It has replaced Horde Battles from Gen VI as the primary method for Stat Grinding, but there are some who find the method to be more tedious and time consuming in comparison. Not helping matters is that while there is a method for the player to make it more likely that the opponent will call for help, it can also happen completely at random, so if a player is simply trying to capture a wild Pokémon, this can result in a battle lasting far longer than they had intended.
    • Evolution moves, moves that are learned by a Pokémon after evolving regardless of what level they are, are somewhat of a mixed bag in terms of mechanics and what is and isn't an evolution move. While many of them are fairly useful and well-regarded, such as Decidueye's Spirit Shackle and Alolan Ninetales' Dazzling Gleam, Kadabra's in particular is bugged so that, if it evolves at level 16 like it normally does, it will only learn Kinesis instead of Confusion like it usually does, leaving it without an attacking move until it learns Psybeam at level 21. Fortunately, the 1.1 update fixed it so that evolution moves no longer override other moves. Inverted regarding Alolan Marowak, who is only capable of learning its signature move, Shadow Bone, at level 27, while Marowak evolves at level 28, meaning it must be taught the move via the Move Relearner (whose services aren't available until you get to the Pokémon League) in order to know it at all - as a result, many fans wish that Shadow Bone were an evolution move in order to bypass this problem.
    • The revamped fishing mechanic. Now fishing on certain spots is fine as well as having a single rod. However, the stilted encounter rate makes fishing quite a chore. Three things can happen when you throw your line - you either get nothing, an item, or a Pokémon encounter. Now the last one, most of them have a ludicrously high encounter rate for Magikarp, usually being higher than 40%. And the rare Pokémon being around 1%-2%. However, on exactly one fishing spot on a route with such a rare encounter, bubbles will appear above it, and fishing while this phenomenon is occurring will increase the encounter rate of the rarer Pokémon on the route... to no higher than 20%. And if you scatter the bubbles by moving too quickly nearby or fish something other than your target Pokémon from the spot, you have to leave the map and come back, or soft reset the game. And there are several Pokémon that must be encountered in this fashion, including the newly introduced Bruxish, Dhelmise and Mareanie (the latter of which also has the Guide Dang It of S.O.S. battles on top of the Corsola encounter rate). Older games made it easier to catch more interesting Pokémon by adding higher tier fishing rods- but no such rod exists in Alola.
    • Certain Pokémon like Magneton and Charjabug require to level up near an electric "zone" to reach their final stage. Unlike the older games where the designated zone is usually within the middle of the game, in Alola it is in the fourth island. While it's good that those two could hold on their own, it is really baffling that the usual spot is at the final leg of the single player campaign, especially when there is a more appropriate and obvious area that could have been used for it (the power plant in Blush Mountain for instance). Even worse is Crabrawler, who can only evolve by leveling up in Mt. Lanakila, which is the point where the main story is almost over. What doesn't help is that Crabrawler doesn't have good enough stats to hold on for this long, only being viable in the early game, which only discourages players from keeping it in their team for very long.
    • During Totem Pokémon fights, the camera will occasionally dramatically look around the battlefield and focus on the Pokémon. The thing is, it'll do that even if you've already decided on the move you're intending to use, thus forcing you to wait until it's done with no way to get it to stop.
    • In the Festival Plaza, you have no way of choosing what facility you get when you rank up. You can only get what Sophocles offers you, and he can (and will) offer a facility that is blatantly inferior to the ones you currently have in your plaza, making getting any three or five star facilities a chore unless you acquire one from someone else. Also, the 'hints' given to you by the Festival Fans are often extremely misleading and offer no real clue as to which facility they mean. The missions are also a trial, because absolutely no explanation is given for what you need to do beyond the name, leaving you to work it out for yourself while trying to accomplish the mission.
    • The Battle Tree is the only place to obtain the available Mega Stones (outside of that one Alakazite). In addition to Mega Evolution being totally off-limits until the post-game, the stones cost 64 BPnote . On the bright side, there's no limit on how many Mega Stones the player can purchase.
    • The return of the Heavy Ball has a consequence unseen in HeartGold and SoulSilver due to the capture rate system's mechanics in Gens III and IV preventing a Pokémon's catch rate from going below one - attempting to catch a Pokémon with a catch rate of 20 or lower that is light enough to earn the Heavy Ball's -20 penalty (the retention of the new Heavy Ball weight tiers introduced in HGSS which removed the neutral zone itself being another divisive thing) will be impossible to catch in that ball as their catch rate will be set to zero and unaffected by multipliers such as status conditions. It's completely inefficient and most players wouldn't be be bothered by this, but people who engage in balltism (the desire to catch a certain Pokémon in a certain ball and/or catch Pokémon in a wide variety of balls) may find this aggravating. The only available Pokémon in Sun and Moon affected by this are the Beldum line and the tapu, and many balltists were looking forward to having legal members of the Beldum line in Heavy Balls.
    • On the GTS, if a trade has already occurred when attempting to fulfill it, any specific filters such as region and availability is reset, rather than retaining those parameters. Especially frustrating when attempting to search for easily-fulfilled demands. Deposits don't even have the privilege of demanding such parameters.
  • Self-Fanservice:
    • A lot of the fan art for Wicke gives her much larger breasts and wider hips than how she's drawn within official art, which was already pretty curvy to begin with.
    • Professor Kukui's fan art often makes him look even beefier and hunkier, when he's already got a toned physique.
    • Several drawings of Lillie, particularly those of the Rule 34 persuasion, feature her with sizable breasts despite in-game depictions. Mallow and Lana are sometimes given the same treatment, although the difference is more prominent in the latter's case.
  • Ship Mates: Generally, ships among the young main cast tend to come in certain configurations that ensure both Lillie and Gladion are paired. Fans who ship the male player character with Lillie, then tend to pair Gladion with the female player character. Fans who ship Lillie and Hau, also like Gladion/either player character. If one prefers Lillie with the female player character, then Gladion is generally shipped with Hau instead.
  • Signature Scene: The player character meeting with Lillie on the bridge, shielding Nebby from the attacking Spearow, and being saved by Tapu Koko. To a lesser extent, there is also Nihilego's grand entrance, emerging from an Ultra Wormhole in front of an awestruck player character, Hau, and Lusamine.
  • Special Effect Failure:
    • On multiple occasions, Lillie's braids clip through her clothes or bag strap.
    • The animation for the Normal-type Z-Move Breakneck Blitz is supposed to cover up the fact that the user's legs aren't moving as it races toward the target, but it only covers up the hind legs on quadrupedal Pokémon, leaving the static front legs fully visible.
    • Lighting has never been Game Freak's strong suit, but Sun and Moon are plagued with even more lighting problems than the previous generation, which was already infamous for having bright nighttime lighting. Melemele Island and several entities like Lillie are plagued with a strange bright glow, even in daytime, and the lighting of humans and Pokémon in and out of battle don't adhere to the time-based lighting of the environment, especially in battle. Additionally, there is always an odd glare on the top left corner of the screen during battles.
    • Sandstorms are simply rendered as a single layer overlay during battle, and so are snowstorms on the overworld. They don't look right at all when the camera is moving around or following you as you move around.
    • During the idle views of the field in between turns, some Pokémon (often large ones) are completely absent save for their shadow at certain camera angles, only to suddenly pop into existence from nowhere as the camera rotates.
  • Squick: If you don't feel at the little bit grossed out at picking up "Pokémon garbage", you will be especially when your trainer not only uses their bare hands to pick it up and the animation implies they put it in their pocket.
  • Suspiciously Similar Song:
  • Slow-Paced Beginning: The first segment of the game really railroads you with tutorials and excessive hand-holding, even by Pokemon standards. However, it gives you more freedom once you get to the second island.

    T 
  • That One Boss: Sun and Moon have plenty of tough-as-nails bosses, especially compared to previous games, especially Totem Pokémon, given that you're usually outnumbered two to one, with one Pokémon in that pair being particularly tough.
    • Totem Wishiwashi. It has great bulk and high offensive stats, and will summon Pokémon that have Helping Hand to further augment its offensive attacks. One such Pokémon would be Alomomola, which can also use Heal Pulse to heal the Wishiwashi. The rain is also up for an infinite amount of time and coming from 140 base special attack at this point a Water Gun can OHKO almost everything in the game while you're not likely to 2HKO it.
    • Totem Salazzle. It's fast and hits hard with Special moves, and its aura improves its Special Defense, giving it some extra bulk against the Water-types you probably brought to deal with it. Once you get its health down enough, it'll eat its Petaya Berry to boost its Special Attack even further. Don't think its movepool is any more forgiving: it's got Torment to keep you from spamming your best move, Venom Drench to lower both of your offensive stats and your Speed, the relatively-powerful Flame Burst for direct damage, and Toxic. Why is Toxic so bad? Well, Salazzle's unique Ability, Corrosion, lets it poison anything, regardless of type, which means there's no way to protect yourself from ongoing damage that doubles each turn. And woe betide you if it summoned a Salandit to help, because the Salandit will follow up with Venoshock, an attack that doubles in power if the target has been poisoned; the Salandit can also use Taunt to keep you from using any status moves, which is just icing on the cake. Even worse is the fact that Salazzle will summon infinite reinforcements of Salandit as one gets defeated, forcing you to focus your attacks on Salazzle and getting hammered by Salandit's Venoshock if they're left unchecked. Sure, you can try to take it out using Ground moves, but this early in the game, you won't be able to find very many in Alola.
    • Totem Lurantis. It starts off with heightened Speed, allowing it to likely outspeed most Pokémon. It has some really hard hitting moves like Solar Blade (a physical equivalent to Solar Beam, except it has 125 Power) and the decently powered X-Scissor. If you don't bring it to below 1/3 health before the end of the first turn, it'll summon a Trumbeak which can wear your Pokémon down with Supersonic and Screech, as well as Pluck to steal any held berries and Rock Blast to prey on the Fire, Bug, and Flying Pokémon that would target Lurantis. However, if you do manage to weaken it that much that fast, it'll summon a Castform instead, which can make the fight a lot more hellish. It has Headbutt, which can do decent damage and can flinch. It has Water Gun which can hurt Fire-type Pokémon. But the kicker is that it can use Sunny Day, thus activating harsh sunlight and its Forecast ability, while also giving it a Fire-type Weather Ball to hit even harder and further punish Bug types. In addition, Totem Lurantis can receive tons of benefit from harsh sunlight, as it will activate its Leaf Guard ability, which prevent status, heals more HP with Synthesis and Solar Blade doesn't require charging. To top this off, regardless of who it summons first, if it's still alive when the first ally faints, it'll immediately call the other one. And Totem Lurantis happens to hold a Power Herb, allowing it to bypass a charge turn for Solar Blade once. Heck, many fans in fact compare Lurantis with Whitney's Miltank, of all things!
    • Totem Mimikyu. Its Disguise ability allows it to survive at least one hit and will guarantee that it'll call in an ally Pokémon. Every ally it calls has Hypnosis. Its Totem Aura boosts all of its stats, so it'll be difficult to outspeed and overpower it. Thanks to these boosts, odds are it will survive to call another ally if you KO the first ally first. While having Disguise doesn't save it from getting status effect such as Poison or Burn, it holds a Lum Berry to assure you had just wasted a turn attempting to bypass the loophole.
    • The story battle against Ilima early on can be this for the unprepared. His Yungoos obviously won't prove that much of a threat, but his Smeargle can easily wipe your party if you're underleveled. It has a move that counters your own starter Pokémon, is pretty fast for that early in the game, and has Quick Attack to get off a free hit anyway. It doesn't help that Yungoos loves spamming Leer, which will make your Pokémon even more vulnerable to those Quick Attacks. And Tapu Koko help you if you chose Popplio, as Leafage is a physical move—after a few Leers, Baby-Doll Eyes won't save it. Just ask several Nuzlocke trainers who ended the battle with a Total Party Kill.
    • The battle against Hau counts as this after the first visit to the Aether Paradise. His first Pokémon is an Alolan Raichu — a powerful and fast Pokémon that has access to Thunderbolt and Psychic, making it difficult to survive if your team doesn't resist either. His second Pokémon is the Eeveelution that is strong against your starter- so woe betide anyone who picked Litten and found themselves against the Mighty Glacier Vaporeon. Finally, his last Pokémon is his starter, which carries the Z-Crystal of its relevant type. The only saving grace is that this battle does not need to be won to proceed with the game—though this isn't much reassurance if you're doing a Nuzlocke Run; if you don't have a fast Dark type, the Raichu alone could easily cause your Game Over.
    • Any of the Guzma fights can be surprisingly difficult for many, mainly because of his Golisopod. It packs First Impression (a powerful Bug-type priority move that only works when used as the first attack) which, if not resisted, will likely KO your Pokémon (even Pokémon that are at a much higher level than Golisopod) this is especially true if one tries to use Alolan Raichu against this thing thinking it might outspeed. It will follow it up with a Swords Dance and spam +2 boosted Razor Shells (a Water-type move with the chance of lowering your Pokémon's Defence stat) thereafter. On top of that, it's incredibly bulky for the points where you fight him so chances are big that you not only won't ko it in one round, but that you also won't be activating it's Emergency Exit ability in one round either. And Arceus help you if the Ariados he switches into manages to faint one of your pokemon with Fell Stinger... It will immediately begin spamming +3 ATK Shadow Sneaks and you'll be lucky to even score another hit on the thing. At Aether Paradise, he has two more Pokémon, Masquerain and Pinsir. Masquerain is regarded as a lost potential Pokémon that's another Bug/Flying type, but it will spam Air Slash, which will most likely make you flinch. Good luck trying to hit it, even if you have a Rock type. Speaking of said Emergency Exit ability, it lets it use First Impression once more to likely hand out another KO if your Pokémon does not resist Bug.
    • Lusamine is generally considered to be one of, if not the, hardest fight in the main story. Despite her favoring cute looking Pokémon, her team is full of Mighty Glacier such as Clefable, Milotic, and Bewear. In addition, she is the first trainer in the game to use five Pokémon. And that is not even getting to her Motherbeast rematch where she uses Ultra Beast powers to buff up her Pokémon even further (as in, her Pokémon have one of their stats boosted), while also now having full movesets.
    • The Final Boss, Professor Kukui. He leads with his Lycanroc and uses Stealth Rock, which damages Pokémon upon switching in, and then uses Braviary with Whirlwind to do Stealth Rock damage to you. Braviary also has high Attack and a high BP Brave Bird to use it with. His Pokémon are all EV trained with good movesets. His strongest Pokémon is the final form of the starter you and Hau didn't choose, so it'll absolutely beat your starter, especially since it's equipped with a Z-Crystal matching its type. His Ninetales has Safeguard to protect the team from status effects. He's also got a bulky Snorlax which can tank a lot of hits that aren't Fighting type attacks, and has a high chance of paralyzing with Body Slam as well as High Horsepower for any potential Steel types trying to tank its blows. His Magnezone is also powerful and has Sturdy so one Ground or Fire type move won't be enough to take it down. He also carries 4 Full Restores and 1 Full Heal to use so that Snorlax can easily heal to full health again and can stop status effects.
    • Out of all the Ultra Beasts, Xurkitree is probably the most likely to cause headaches. It starts the encounter with a Totem Aura that doubles its already sky-high Special Attack, allowing it to maul just about anything that's not Ground-type with Discharge, at which point Beast Boost kicks in and raises its Special Attack even further. You could switch in a Ground-type to No Sell Discharge, except that will likely be answered by a super-effective Power Whip to the face which will still leave a painful mark even with its attack being less than half of its base special attack. To top it off, its Electric typing makes it immune to paralysis, and it comes with Electric Terrain to block sleep (and it will use this if you attempt to use Yawn or are outsped by it while trying to use another sleep-inflicting move on it), making it much harder to catch and boosting the power of Discharge even further. And you have to deal with two of them.
    • Guzzlord is an absolute nightmare to catch. It's level 70, which if you're doing the post-game content immediately after the story is likely to be higher than anything you have on you. Even worse, it's a Damage-Sponge Boss that will take quite some doing to get down to a catchable level of health. While you're whittling down its health, its Beast Boost ability boosts its Attack since it can't boost its max HP, meaning it will very likely slaughter almost anything you throw out against it in one or two hits. On top of everything, it knows Thrash, which will confuse it, and if it hits itself in confusion with its Beast Boosted attack stat, it's almost certain to kill itself if you've been weakening it, and the fact that it has a catch rate of just 15 means that it will get plenty of opportunity to do this and force you to start the fight over again from square one.
  • That One Level:
    • The second visit to Aether Paradise has high level trainers, multiple boss battles in the whole area and half of them are considered as That One Boss, and is quite large to traverse. It becomes quite difficult and a chore unless you stocked up on high amounts of healing items and includes incredible amounts of backtracking if not sufficiently stocked. It could be considered a worse version of the Shadow Pokémon Lab — fitting, as the boss battle at the end shares a few riffs from the boss battle at the end of the Shadow Pokémon Lab.
    • Vast Poni Canyon on Poni Island. This area is equivalent to Victory Road, full of tough trainers, lots of sections that require the Ride Assists (the HMs of this generation), and the only Pokémon Center is all the way across the island note . Trying to clear the Canyon in one go becomes quite a task, as if you run out of healing items, you'll have to Charizard Glide back to the Pokémon Center, which may mean possibly having to backtrack through the Canyon again. Thankfully, Lillie will heal you at certain points, and just near the end of the Canyon you can use Machamp Shove to create a shortcut to the entrance. This whole section contains at least a few bosses. It starts off with the battle with Kahuna Hapu (who will have rather high leveled Pokémon at that point, nearing Lv 50). At the end of the Canyon is the Dragon Trial, where you face off against Totem Kommo-o (who can take care of Fairy types with its Flash Cannon, and can summon a Scizor as wellnote ). It's then followed by a rematch with Lusamine fused with Nihilego, with all of her Pokémon having heightened stats, after which then comes a fight with the box legendary Solgaleo in Sun or Lunala in Moon. Thankfully, once all of this is done, all that is left is Mt. Lanakila, a Breather Level.
  • That One Sidequest:
    • Collecting Zygarde Cells and Cores in itself is a fine side-quest. The problem is that there are Cells that appear only in day or night, as well as ones that only appear post-game puts you in a Guide Dang It moment. And finally, unless you were keeping a checklist of the cores you have collected, trying to find the last few pieces is going to be an islands-spanning scavenger hunt.
    • Evolving Sneasel into Weavile. Like previous games, this requires Sneasel to hold a Razor Claw at night and then level up. However, getting said Razor Claw is hard: they're only found being held by wild Jangmo-o, Hakamo-o, and Kommo-o. Jangmo-o has only a 5% chance of appearing in the wild in the one place they do so, and only have a 5% chance of holding a Razor Claw, which means a 1/400 chance of finding something with it. It can potentially call a Kommo-o which has a 50% chance of holding it, but that's really, really rare. Getting a Razor Fang to evolve Gligar isn't much better; it's only found on wild Bruxish, which have to be fished up, although thankfully wild Bruxish are a bit easier to come by.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks:
    • The adventure forgoing the usual "challenge the Gyms and become the Champion" formula in favor of non-traditional gameplay involving traveling the four islands and battling special boss Pokémon called Totem Pokémon, alongside the islands each having one special trainer (who hold the title of Kahuna) to battle against, got this sort of reaction from some long-time fans. The fact that the game even has a plot has caused people to wonder what everyone is babbling about because they just want to go play online. This isn't the first time this happened....
    • Several of the Gameplay mechanics introduced in Gen VI, including Super Training, Horde Battles, and Hidden Pokémon were removed from these games.
    • To the joy of many fans, the Apricorn balls are back. To the absolute ire of the same crowd, you can only get one of each. Not helping is the fact that the balls are very situational and don't affect a Pokémon's catch rate in the usual way other balls do, adding onto the base rate rather than multiplying it.
    • The new Global Link exists solely for recording online actions and providing tournaments, with the ability to get items from it completely removed. When things like the Apricorn Balls and Gems were revealed to be limited and once again unavailable respectively, people were hoping that the Global Link would offer them as a saving grace.
    • Taking into account the Dream World back when Black and White were new games, these games have the lowest percentage of Pokémon available, with just under 400 out of 801 available. Additionally, the National Pokédex is no longer in the game and is exclusive to the paid subscription-based Pokémon Bank — Pokémon outside the Alola Pokédex don't even have Pokédex entries, viewable static forms, or playable animations for each form, and their National Pokédex numbers don't even show up on their summary screens.
    • After introducing the Mega Evolution mechanic in Gen VI and making it an expected feature, fans who welcomed the mechanic were initially happy to hear that it would return despite the introduction of Z-Moves. What those same fans don't like is that Mega Evolutions are restricted to the post-game. Players wanting to use their favorite Megas to play through the story are forced to wait until afterwards just to unlock them. And even then, only Mega Stones for Pokémon found in the Alola Dex and the Kanto starters can be obtained. Some fans are also miffed that there are no new Mega Evolutions, especially since many of the Alola Pokémon have bizarre and unusually weak stat distributions that would highly benefit from such a boost.
    • Several moves, items, statuses, Pokémon and abilities have received nerfs, such as Gale Wings only working at full HP, Thunder Wave's accuracy dropping to 90%, Gengar losing Levitate for Cursed Body, the Soul Dew boosting Psychic and Dragon moves by 20% as opposed to boosting the Eon Pokémon's Special stats by 50%, Parental Bond's second hit only doing 25% of the first hit's damage, and Dark Void going from a good 80% accuracy to a paltry 50%. If you liked the pre-Gen VII versions of all these factors, you'll likely be none too pleased with these changes.
    • Sun and Moon also sees the return of the EXP scaling that was used in the fifth generation. Pokémon now get less EXP the higher leveled they are. Add the removal of Trainer Rematches and the lack of the Battle Chateau/Battle Cafe, and the player only has two ways to level grind. Challenging the Elite Four over and over, and exploiting a loophole at the Battle Buffet. Even then, the Pokémon at the Battle Buffet have levels in the mid-50s, while the Elite Four's Pokémon are in the early 60s, meaning training Pokémon to level 100 is still going to take a lot of level grinding.
    • Similarly, these games also retain the fifth generation's single-rod fishing mechanics. Unfortunately, while rippling spots do return, they don't alter the encounter pools very much nor do they guarantee a bite. Com Mons like Magikarp plague the waters of Alola more than ever before regardless of such phenomena, and you can now only fish in certain spots.
    • The mini-games in the original Pokémon-Amie made it possible to get a Pokémon to max affection in about half an hour of straight care, due to giving you good Poképuffs and increasing a Pokémon's excitement and hunger every time you played so you could pet and feed it between each game and just rinse and repeat. With those minigames removed, and the only source of good Pokébeans (only other way to get any is from the Cafés in the Pokémon Centers once a day, and that'll only get you the most basic Pokébeans) being Isle Abeens which you can't access until after the fourth trial (counting Hala's Grand Trial), getting a Pokémon to max affection in the early game is impossibly tedious; now you can only pet and feed a Pokémon every few fights you use them in, and even then only bit by bit unless you frequently luck out with a used Pokémon needing to be groomed/healed. As a result, the time to max out their affection can easily reach double what it was previously before Isle Abeens is accessable. It might have been meant to be balanced by the Masaladas, but they can only be fed to a Pokémon with at least two empty hunger points, so it's not that reliable, and it's not fun to have to actually pay money to get your Pokémon to love you in a decent amount of time. On the other hand, once you have Pelago, you can collect Rainbow beans that provide so many hearts of affection that you can max out a Pokémon with just 2 rainbow beans and a little light petting (or 2 rainbow beans and 1 patterned bean).
    • While fans are glad that HMs are removed and they still exist as TMs, they are annoyed by the inability to use other moves such as Dig and Sweet Scent outside of battle, feeling that it is unfair that these moves are punished for having the same concept as HMs but without the major drawbacks that most HMs are associated with.
    • Normal NPC trainers no longer have individual encounter themes. A short jingle will play after they spot you and that might vary from class to class, but the encounter theme itself is short even compared to the series' older ones and the same for everyone except Team Skull and the Aether Foundation. Some people feel that it's a shame, given the number of encounter themes that became quite popuoar due to their catchiness.
  • They Copied It, So It Sucks: Some people have noted the similarities between Sun and Moon and the new sensation that's sweeping Japan that is Yo-Kai Watch. Of note is the Rotom Pokédex being a clear expy of Whisper (a ghost inside of a high-tech device that helps you out) as well as the new protagonists being younger in age compared to the past two generations. Because of this, some fans are already crying foul for throwing what made Pokémon unique out the window in order to try to copy something that's on the same system as it. However, a lot of fans quieted down after the games turned out to be surprisingly dark and deconstructive, akin to Pokémon Black and White when they were first released - a far cry from the wacky and lighthearted YKW.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • A lot of past characters who would have had reason to show up again, didn't. And of the middling few that actually returned, only Anabel has any importance outside of the Battle Tree. Professor Burnet especially glaring, considering she's Kukui's wife; and yet she has one scene of relevance, and is largely ignored for the rest of the game (though she is mentioned to do a number of things offscreen). Then there's the cameo of Colress who was rather important in his debut, yet here he's only present as a Battle Tree opponent and a means to obtain a TM and Genesect's Drives, with almost no mention of his prior affiliations with Team Plasma.
    • As far as other humans go, how about Mohn? The game has a lot of hints that he's Lusamine's husband who disappeared during an accident involving Ultra Wormholes, and yet he only ever sits around helping you build up Poké Pelago.
    • Of the four island guardians, only Tapu Koko has any real significance to the plot while the rest are mostly glossed over aside from being catchable in the post-game. Tapu Bulu gets this the worst as it only ever receives an offhand mention, and its respective ruins aren't even visited as part of the main story.
    • Out of all the Ultra Beasts, only UB-01 (a.k.a Nihilego) is fought during the main game and has any real plot-relevance, with the rest all being postgame-only fights. They could've easily acted as Climax Bosses throughout the story, or been used by Lusamine in her final fight. Some fans were disappointed when they heard how despite the Ultra Beasts being, for all intents and purposes, Eldritch Abominations with strange abilities that don't belong in the Pokémon world, that no reference was made back to the infamous Missingno. And then there are some who wish that the Ultra Beasts remained unique entities as opposed to being extradimensional Pokémon and that they had served as true villains or even the main antagonists (giving players Pokémon/non-humans that were unambiguously villainous, as opposed to non malicious, misunderstood or neutral).
    • Necrozma seems to have the same problem Zygarde did in Pokémon X and Y, in that it has a lot of potential in its Dex entry and design (supposedly being related to the Ultra Beasts and having possibly crossed over into the world in ancient times), but nothing is really done with it. Although hopefully, also like Zygarde, maybe it'll get more to its character later on. With the reveal of Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, it seems that Necrozma will finally get some spotlight as the cover legendaries are either new forms for it, or forms of Solgaleo and Lunala that assume aspects of Necrozma.
    • An interesting version with Gladion. Fans have overall responded well to his character and he has a decent presence in the story, but the fact that he's supposedly the main "antagonistic" rival of the game (compared to Hau, the Friendly Rival) is undercut by the fact that you fight him a measly three times in the main story overall. (Four, if you count the Battle Royal tutorial, which includes him as a participant.) For comparison, that's fewer times than the widely criticized Brendan and May and Hugh. Also compare that to N, who is part of a villainous group and fights the protagonists even more times, but is never officially considered the rival. And Gladion only evolves his Type: Null into a starter-countering Silvally alongside a team of four Pokémon during the final encounter. It can be said that while his role in the story is strong, his role as a rival to battle against is surprisingly underwhelming.
    • With this being the debut of its formes, it not having a game focusing on it in Gen VI like Rayquaza, Giratina and Kyurem, and being scattered across Alola, you'd think Zygarde would have a major role of some kind, such as fighting against the Ultra Beasts once they arrive in Alola, or maybe even have some relation with the mascot legendaries (representing the Earth to their sun and moon). Instead, it's little more than a Collection Sidequest for a somewhat-early legendary, and the closest it gets to a major role is the player using it in important battles.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • Many have lamented that Motherbeast Lusamine would have been more interesting to fight directly instead of a regular Pokémon battle. On top of that, she only has five Pokémon. The sixth slot could've very well been another Nihilego. There were several of them floating around after all, she could have used another instead of the one she had fused with as it was kept in a Beast Ball.
    • The website notes that UB-01 is capable of shapeshifting and never stays in one form. In the final game, its shapeshifting is almost never mentioned aside from when fusing with Lusamine, and even then it still retains its jellyfish-like appearance.
    • Rotom being given a platform that enables him to communicate in human languages was anticipated to be a major advancement in human-Pokémon relations, as Rotom would be able to translate both and provide answers to questions about how Pokémon think and feel that have been asked in previous games. In the game, most characters treat the Rotom Dex as little more than a novelty, and Rotom doesn't interact with other characters very much at all, instead offering the player the occasional quip.
    • When Lusamine causes Ultra Wormholes to open up all across Alola, thus causing the arrival of the Ultra Beasts, one would expect there to be a climactic sense of urgency to stop their devastation, with each one serving as a Climax Boss or even another group of villains to fight alongside the established ones. Instead, this plot point is dropped immediately as it's introduced, and may as well have never happened since the plot changes focus entirely, the phenomena is hardly mentioned aside from Hapu mentioning that she and Tapu Fini battled one together, and the Ultra Beasts themselves are absent until the postgame, despite their big presence in the pre-release promotion.
    • Minor example in the latter half of the game: At one point, after beating one Team Skull Grunt, the other five in the group gang up on you, but it's done as a single battle against a team of five, when they could have done a Trainer Horde Battle as a Call Back to the previous game.
    • Unlike Gen VI with Mega Stones, no-one in-game asks about or explains the origin or backstory of the Z-Crystals; they're presented as merely powerful objects that simply exist and are seemingly common enough that they're used as trial rewards. While the Z-Power they use is given more of a backstory (with the implications that they may be related to Ultra Space and the Ultra Beasts), the Z-Crystals remain inexplicable.
    • For the first time since Platinum, you get to explore an alien dimension! ...unfortunately, Ultra Space is nothing but a single small hallway towards Lusamine, with nothing in it or any outlandish gameplay elements like the Distortion World's gravity. You see lots of UB-01/Nihilego, but you never fight any of them or encounter any other Ultra Beast. And to top it off, it's a One Time Dungeon that can't be accessed again when you're done with it.
    • In the post-game, the player can find a portal to an alternate universe. However, the only differences are changing the motif of two insignificant areas, and the in-game time being changed. There is a cutscene where the player gets their own Cosmog, although that is something which could have easily happened in the regular world. Nothing else changes, characters still react as they did in the normal world, as though you've always been in this universe. The player is even still the Champion in the alternate universe. Many have said that the alternate universe should have had the oppisite gender character as the Champion, which could have been an exciting Bonus Boss.
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy:
    • The majority of the Pokémon introduced in these games suffer from crippled competitive value due to their low speed, and to a lesser extent their frustratingly-narrow movepools. Even in-game, many Alolan natives struggle to outspeed the Pokémon a player will face as they progress throughout the story should they remain of a similar level. As of May 2017, Smogon lists nearly half of all fully-evolved Gen VII Pokémon in the RU/Rarely Used and NU/Never Used tiers, with the majority of those affected in the latter, while nearly all of the ones in UU/Underused and above consist of legendaries such as the tapu and Ultra Beasts, an even worse situation than the ones faced by the majority of Pokémon introduced in Gen II, IV and V. As of late June 2017, Gen VII PU is currently in testing, and it is likely that many of the Pokémon in the aforementioned categories will drop down a tier once the website implements it.
    • Decidueye and Incineroar suffer from terrible statspreads - while Incineroar is the only starter to lose points in a stat upon evolving and going from a Lightning Bruiser as Torracat to a Mighty Glacier as Incineroar who loses a third of its speed while its unnecessary special attack remains unchanged, Decidueye suffers from having a special attack that is nearly as high as its attack while it learns about a dozen special moves, none of them through leveling up, leaving its HP and defense low as a result.
    • Out of all the Pokémon available, Crabominable isn't very well liked due to being part-Ice, as well as being slow and mediocre bulk with no access to moves like Mach Punch and Ice Shard to overcome that hurdle. In addition, a Crabrawler can only evolve into a Crabominable near the end of the game.
    • While Lurantis is well-liked for its design, many players aren't too fond of it in terms of gameplay due to basically being a worse version of Tsareena. Its stats are basically inferior to Tsareena's (Lurantis has 70/105/90/80/90/45 in stat spreads, and Tsareena has 72/120/98/50/98/72), with its only higher stat being Special Attack, which it doesn't even need in the first place due to it being primarily physical. Even worse is that Fomantis only evolves into Lurantis at Level 34 in the daytime, while Steenee evolves into Tsareena as early as Level 29 due to learning Stomp at that level, with no time restrictions. It doesn't help that Fomantis and Bounsweet are encountered in the same area. Its saving grace is that it learns the incredibly powerful Solar Blade and its hidden ability, Contrary, which sharply boosts its Sp. Attack stat with Leaf Storm rather than the other way around, but that's about it. Even on that front, it's almost entirely outdone by Serperior (which has 75/75/95/75/95/113 as its stat spread), which has more bulk, much more speed, and a better array of moves (which is saying a lot, when a Pokémon generally considered to be held back by its shallow movepool has more options). The only thing that Contrary Lurantis has over Contrary Serperior is a slightly higher Special Attack stat.
    • Midnight Lycanroc is generally considered to be inferior to its Midday counterpart. Unlike Midday Lycanroc, Midnight cannot learn Accelerock by itself, instead having the generally average Fighting-type move Counter as its signature move. Stat-wise, Midnight's speed is 30 points lower than Midday's, while each of its defensive stats are only increased by 10 points each, which is still too frail to make up for the loss of speed. The end result is a Glass Cannon whose stats besides its Attack are largely average that unfortunately won't see as much competitive use as its daytime counterpart.
    • Kommo-o was the unfortunate result of the hyped up next Pseudo-Legendary Dragon and one that could've made an impact more extreme than all before it. For one thing, it is the first Dragon/Fighting type, a nearly unresisted STAB combo. However, Kommo-o lacks the speed to do much, lacks the power to threaten common foes, and lacked the bulk to tank much more than Garchomp despite being its focus. To make matters even worse, its typing has pretty common weaknesses, including being extremely weak to Fairy. Kommo-o also lacks various Fighting Type moves to make use of, and relies on Flamethrower when other Dragon Types get Fire Blast. This makes Kommo-o very underwhelming by its group's standards competitively, and even facing it in-game is almost laughable. While future games may improve its movepool through Move Tutors, Kommo-o itself is unfortunately lackluster when it comes to Pseudo-Legendaries right now.
      • Particularly baffling is that, for a time, the Battle Tree featured a Kommo-o running Shell Smash, a phenomenal boosting move that fits Kommo-o's design and would solve both the speed and power issues. Despite the trainers being free to abuse it against you, no legal means of obtaining a Shell Smash Kommo-o has been found for players. The 1.1 patch "fixed" this issue by giving the Battle Tree Kommo-o Draco Meteor instead.
    • While most of the Ultra Beasts are far from this, the same can't be said for UB-05 Glutton/Guzzlord. With a high HP stat, it's intended to soak up hits, but unlike Complete Forme Zygarde, both of its defensive stats are below average. This, combined with a double weakness to Fairy attacks and a poor defensive movepool, renders it unsuitable for that purpose. Offensively, it fares little better; being very slow and having weak attack stats. All in all, one isn't likely to see it used over its fellow Ultra Beasts.
    • The player starts out with only Rada as their Multi-Battle partner in the Battle Tree, and she may as well have selected the worst possible selection of Pokemon imaginable. Both her Barbaracle and Hawlucha are vulnerable to the alarmingly common Electric-type, the former being even more so to Grass-type attacks.
    • When it comes to facilities in Festival Plaza, already considered a Scrappy Mechanic to some, the Goody Shop is indubitably the most useless of them all. For perspective, services from facilities cannot be purchased through the usual currency; they only accept Festival Coins, which can be tedious to accumulate through missions or interacting with guests. While services from some facilities such as Food Stalls, Haunted Houses, Bouncy Houses, Dye Houses, and Fortune Tellers cost FC, their services are often unique or help save time in grinding. The same cannot be said for the General Store, as literally anything it sells can be purchased at the Poke Mart with traditional money or at vending machines. What doesn't help is that many see it goody shops as being inferior to Join Avenue's markets, as there are many more varieties of goody shops and all of which having less items available than the markets. Compare Goody Shops to Food Stallsnote , Raffle Stationsnote  and Haunted Housesnote .

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  • Ugly Cute:
    • Popplio, according to a lot of fans. Although its clown-like features and strange design are off-putting to some, its big puppy-dog eyes are also quite endearing.
    • Grubbin's chubby body, stubby little legs, and large eyes make it a surprisingly cute bug.
    • Mimikyu is a Pokémon that's dressed in rags that resemble a poorly drawn Pikachu. Its backstory states that the reason for dressing like this, is because it wants to be loved by humans, just as much as Pikachu.
    • Crabominable to those who like it.
  • Uncanny Valley:
    • The protagonist has always that blank stare and smile on their face regardless of the situation and how the people around them are reacting, and appears sometimes like a psychopath. Especially blatant when doing certain Z-Move poses. Depending on the eye and skin color, they might look creepier than in other colors.
    • Popplio to those who dislike it, due to its overtly clownish design and strange proportions. Overall, Popplio comes across as a Monster Clown to some viewers.
    • Mimikyu with its shoddy, scarecrow-like Pikachu costume, especially since its real face is peering out of the chest of the costume. In-universe, its body is apparently so horrifying that a glimpse will strike you with a horrendous illness or more than likely kill you. However, this also crosses into Creepy Cute territory, considering how much support it's gotten from fans.
    • Bewear is this to some, especially since it was revealed to be the same size as a Pangoro, despite its simple and cute design. Some even see it as being just a creepy man in a bear suit. Both Bewear and Stufful also have mouths set under their muzzles rather than in them, and in Stufful's case, its mouth is much wider than its muzzle, resulting in the two looking somewhat strange when they have their mouths open.
    • Alolan Exeggutor comes off as this to some people due to its very long neck, which clashes heavily with its small heads and body.
    • Wishiwashi's School Form, mostly because it has false facial features that are obviously formed from smaller fish, although this might have been intentional in order to make it a scarier Pokémon.
    • Animalistic Abomination Type: Null borders on this, with its patchwork design and bizarre name.
    • The Ultra Beasts are designed to invoke these sorts of reactions. In-universe, they are recognised as being "off", extradimensional beings and extremely distinguishable from normal Pokémon in the main dimension.
    • UB-01 Symbiont (Nihilego) lands squarely here with its humanoid appearance, being reminiscent of a little girl crossed with a jellyfish. It's made of an oddly flexible glasslike material, and some people believe that the orbs floating in some of its tentacles may be its eyes. That isn't even getting to the worst of it, considering the psychoactive and hyperstimulating effects of its neurotoxins and the appearance it assumes when possessing a human.
    • UB-02 Beauty (Pheromosa) has weirdly human-looking eyes that look like they were painted on.
    • UB-03 Lighting, aka "Xurkitree", continues the Ultra Beasts' streak of tapping into the uncanny valley. At first, it looks like a humanoid... thing with electric-wire-like "arms", "legs" and "tail", until you see its attack animation, where it "stands" on all five of its "limbs". One must wonder: are those five "limbs" really "arms", "legs" and "tail"... or are they all just "tentacles"? Xurkitree's lack of face and joints certainly doesn't help matters.
    • UB-04 Blaster (Celesteela) resembles a large rocket made of metallic bamboo with two large, detached arms that also function as rockets. In spite of its body's bulk, it has a spindly, long neck and equally small feminine-looking head.
    • Many of Incineroar's detractors don't hate it for being bipedal, but rather for its particularly exaggerated and cartoonish Top-Heavy Guy structure which may come off as looking unnatural to some. Incineroar has massive bulk in its upper body, fingers and upper arms, but is surprisingly spindly in places like its legs and lower arms — its wrists are even smaller than its fingers and its legs are short enough that its hands go past its knees.
    • Shiinotic. Its face looks cute and unnerving at the same time while sporting Creepy Long Fingers made of hyphae, and this is not helped by being one of the more malevolent Fairy-types in the series.
    • Salazzle's design seems to be intentionally designed so that the line between "humanoid" and "animalistic" are fairly blurry. This isn't surprising, given the nature of her species.
  • Underused Game Mechanic:
    • For all the buzz made about Mega Evolution in Gen VI, it's sidelined hard here. For starters, no new Mega Evolutions are introduced. You're unable to use Mega Evolution until the postgame, and even then you're only given one Mega Stone (Alakazite). The rest all have to be bought at rather high BP prices from the Battle Tree, which is far more merciless than the Battle Maison ever was. To make matters worse, barring the Mega Stones for the Kanto starters, only the Mega Stones for Pokémon found in-game can be obtained. And given that Alakazam only evolves if traded and nobody in-game will trade you one, if you're not intending to try the Battle Tree and don't have anyone to trade with, then no Mega Evolution for you.
    • Sun and Moon brought back Johto's Apricorn Balls much to the surprise of a lot of fans...until you realize that it's only possible to obtain one of each ball. It leaves you wondering why the makers couldn't add some sort of stall or shop in order to purchase more. The only way to obtain more is through Global Missions, and even then they're also limited to one a pop and are only included as stretch goals for reaching double the required amount of points.
    • Some have argued that Sun and Moon's Poke Finder doesn't quite reach the complexity and uniqueness that defined Pokémon Snap.
  • Unexpected Character:
    • Colress, of all people, showing up on Route 8 out of the blue. Just to say "good job" and give you a TM, and later the Genesect Drives.
    • Professor Burnet shows up not long after that, and just as suddenly.
    • Why, hello Frontier Brain Anabel. While Looker was expected per usual, no one expected Anabel to be his boss.
    • Grimsley of the Unova Elite Four shows up out of nowhere on a beach at Route 15 and gives you the ability to summon the Sharpedo Poké Ride.
    • Tristan, the Youngster you met on Route 1 and then never heard from since, is one of the Title Defense challengers in the Pokémon League.
  • Unfortunate Character Design:
    • Yungoos and Gumshoos' designs are supposed to make them look like a Hardboiled Detective (more so for the latter). However, the large tuft of yellow fur upon their heads, as well as the permanent scowl, gives them both a heavy resemblance to Donald Trump.
    • The design of Shiinotic's pink colored lower half makes it unfortunately appear as if a Jigglypuff is giving it a blowjob. The huge default smile painted on Shiinotic's expression does not help alleviate the implications of its design either.
    • Zygarde's 10% Forme has green hexagons all over its body... including the middle of its rear end, unfortunately making it look like it has a big, glowing anus.
    • Salazzle's idle animation, when seen from the front, makes her look like she's...*ahem* "pleasuring" herself. Though given her species' basic concept, this might have been intentional.
  • Unpopular Popular Character:
    • Mimikyu. In-universe, its background is that it feels lonely and that's one of the reasons why it dresses with a Pikachu costume. In real life, it's safe to say it's one of the most popular Gen VII Pokémons, to the point it even got its own rap theme song.
    • Also, Pyukumuku. Fans find it adorable, as do many native Alolans, but many tourists are noted to find it disgusting.
    • Team Skull in general has this treatment. They are seen as a bunch of annoying troublemakers to society, but are widely liked and sympathized by most of the fandom.
  • Viewer Gender Confusion:
    • Like Calem before him, the male protagonist is rather androgynous compared to most of the previous ones, not helped by his similarities to the female protagonist. He's been mistaken for a girl by some.
    • Due to his gender-neutral name and ambiguous looks, people were unsure of Ilima's gender when he was first revealed. Didn't help that both English and Japanese info about Ilima initially didn't give any clear indication about his gender (though other languages referred to Ilima as male).
    • Lana can easily be mistaken for a boy, as she does look rather boyish.
  • What Do You Mean, It's For Kids?: Unsurprising considering the trend that Pokémon frequently takes, but with slightly more of a presence throughout. The Pokédex entries here are very dark and realistic, for example, many of them elaborate on the predator-prey relationship between Pokémon, whereas previous games and iterations of the franchise barely touched upon such things. Adding to that,the Big Bad of the game is surprisingly dark and twisted, guilty of several types of parental abuse, including emotional abuse, manipulation, and neglect to outright abandonment. Furthermore, Team Skull is a surprisingly cerebral deconstruction of the typical Pokémon evil team with goofy grunts, as it's revealed that they merely ended up that way due to their inability to find better lives and are only doing what they need to to survive.
  • The Woobie:
    • Pokémon:
      • Mimikyu wears decades-old Pikachu merchandise because it just wants to be loved. Luckily for the adorable little cosplayer, fans just love it. In fact, This article explains that Mimikyu's woobie-ness is precisely the reason why it's so well loved.
      • Bewear just wants to hug you, and love you, and call you George; unfortunately, its Super Strength has made it The Dreaded to the people of the islands.
      • Bounsweet is an adorable little berry-like Pokémon, but she is said to smell so good that Pokémon can't resist gobbling her up and the way she moves by bouncing along can cause people to think she's just happily bouncing along when she's actually desperately running from a hazard or something that wants to eat her, thus no one tries to help Bounsweet. It makes you want to catch one just so she's safe from harm.
      • Pyukumuku refuses to leave a place it likes, even if it's exhausted all the food there. The people of Alola take pity on it and try to throw it into the sea when they notice it starving, but it'll just come right back to its home.
      • Much like Mewtwo and Genesect, Type: Null was created for the sole purpose of combat and it is forced to wear a heavy helmet to keep its power and speed in check. It wasn't designed with any sort of coherency in mind, making it look like a Frankenstein's Monster and it wasn't even given a proper name: Instead it has a code name which references the fact that it's "nothing." And even worse, the plot reveals that the three made were put into permanent Cryogenic Suspension and deemed "failures." It seems needlessly cruel when they could have been put into a PC Storage system (if restricted from interacting with others if they're so dangerous), or just straight up euthanized if the Aether Foundation was so worried about it. Instead, the three being kept between life and death until the cryogenic storage equipment broke down actually caused Gladion to leave from the sheer callousness of that action.
      • Corsola has now become one, thanks to it being shown that the adorable little coral creature is the Trademark Favorite Food of new Pokémon Mareanie and Toxapex. While Mareanie and Toxapex are shown to fortunately only eat the branches coming off of Corsola's head and back, it's still explicitly stated in-game that it's a terrifying experience for the poor Corsola even if their branches will eventually grow back. It gets worse when you encounter one in the wild: Corsola can call for help from another Corsola, but on rare occasions a Mareanie will answer their call instead and will start attacking the Corsola. Imagine being one of these poor things desperately trying to find help while facing a trainer's Pokémon only to get the attention of your natural predator instead.
    • Humans:
      • Lillie seems to be this from the get-go, with her shy, withdrawn nature and trouble connecting with people. Then it turns out that she's the daughter of the Big Bad, Aether President Lusamine, and lived under her abuse after the latter became obsessed with the Ultra Beasts. Lusamine controlled every aspect of Lillie's life, even how she dressed, and Lillie was left alone with her after her brother, Gladion, escaped from the Aether Foundation to save Type: Null. Two years afterwards, she herself has to escape to rescue Cosmog, who was subjected to Aether's horrible experiments, and as a result is constantly being targeted by the organization throughout the main story. When Lusamine captures her halfway through the plot, she says to Lillie's face that she has no children. Later on, after being fused with the Ultra Beast and losing to the protagonist, Lusamine outright tries to kill Lillie with her bare hands.
      • Gladion, too, particularly after being revealed to be Lusamine's son. While he was with Team Skull, they have no shame in saying out loud that they're only using him and mocking his homelessness. While he's standing right next to them, no less. Then his family life is revealed, and it turns out that he and his sister Lillie were abused by Lusamine, and when he saw what the Aether Foundation was doing to Type: Null, he couldn't bear it and ran away with the artificial Pokémon. He gets separated from Lillie for two years, and when he hears about her again she's being held hostage by their mother. An enraged Gladion tries to fight his way through the foundation to help her, only to be utterly broken by his defeat to Guzma.
      • Team Skull, surprisingly. Not so much the leaders, but the grunts. Many of them have self-esteem issues - no doubt worsened by the fact that they still can't get respect from anyone but other Team Skull grunts - with some outright saying that they feel worthless because they couldn't complete the isle challenges. The part in Po Town in particular reveals just how terrible even their living conditions are and reveals that, despite their actions, they're still normal people. This is actually similar to reality, as some people who feel worthless join gangs because it gives them a sense of unity that they feel they can't get anywhere else.
  • Woolseyism:
    • The Japanese name of Silvally's Ability, "AR System", sounds like the "Ar-say-oos" pronunciation of Arceus used in Japan (fitting the similarities between it and Silvally). In English, where Arceus is (usually) instead pronounced with a hard C (thus, "Ark-ee-us"), the Ability is instead called "RKS System".
    • Many of the Z-Moves that have alliterative names in English have fairly mundane names in Japanese. For example, Breakneck Blitz is called Ultra Dash Attack, Supersonic Skystrike is called Final Dive Crash, Continental Crush is called World's End Fall, Malicious Moonsault is called Hyper Dark Crusher, and Pulverizing Pancake is called Go All Out Attack.
    • For the English version, translating Guzma's ore-sama with his infamous "ya boy" line. Ore-sama usually has connotations of arrogance, with a bit of familiarity in it as well (i.e. You know me, I'm kind of a big deal). There'd be no better way to show off that arrogance and familiarity in slang terms than calling yourself that.
    • In the Japanese version, the leaders of each island are called Island Kings and Island Queens. The English version chose to give them the title of Kahuna, which is a Hawaiian word to refer to either a wise person, or a leader. The usage of the term easily fits the Hawaii based Alola region.

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