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NOTE: Edited with OP's permission.

Edited by Twiddler on Aug 6th 2023 at 11:53:14 AM

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#30277: Oct 20th 2022 at 7:46:15 AM

I'd like to request a lock for Memes.US Politics Biden Era (and optionally the other political meme pages) because there's an extreme amount of misuse that increases every few days as people post knee-jerk reactions to every little political event there. That should give the folks trying to clean it all up a bit of breathing room.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#30278: Oct 20th 2022 at 7:48:40 AM

Really not sure we should be troping those at all, but I guess that's what the cleanups are for. I'll put in the lock.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#30279: Oct 20th 2022 at 7:50:11 AM

Speaking of, I'd like to request to effectively replace the trope list segment at UsefulNotes.Joe Biden for Real Life Troping reasons and the discussion here. As mentioned there, if something really needs to be put back, it can be requested again.

Tropes associated with Joe Biden's portrayals in fiction:

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#30282: Oct 20th 2022 at 1:44:02 PM

On Joe Biden, change

[[WalkingShirtlessScene shirtless]]
to
{{shirtless|Scene}}

IAmNotAFunguy Since: Apr, 2014
#30283: Oct 20th 2022 at 2:43:18 PM

Would it be possible to put a lock on this page? He is a very controversial figure in political documentaries and I fear that will make the page prone to vandalism or edits with heavy opinion.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/DineshDSouza

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#30284: Oct 20th 2022 at 2:47:40 PM

[up] I'd think it'd be worth considering after there is vandalism.

There's something I wanted to make note of, so I'll ping from another thread.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#30285: Oct 20th 2022 at 2:52:16 PM

We have preemptively locked Creator articles before, but my question about D'Souza is why do we even need it? He doesn't write creative works and he's not featured in creative works. The article has no purpose on our wiki so should be cut.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
IAmNotAFunguy Since: Apr, 2014
#30286: Oct 20th 2022 at 3:23:35 PM

Michael Moore has a page on this wiki even though his works are not creative in nature and he is not, by site definition, a "Creator".

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#30287: Oct 20th 2022 at 3:28:57 PM

Done to here otherwise.

[up] Just because other problematic articles exist doesn't mean that Dinesh D Souza should to if it breaks our policies. That just means that we haven't gotten to evaluating those pages yet. In any case, this isn't the place to debate the existence of the page.

Macron's notes
bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#30288: Oct 20th 2022 at 5:21:02 PM

Documentaries can be creative in the same way as other nonfiction.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#30289: Oct 20th 2022 at 5:28:49 PM

[up] Correct, but if we don't have articles for them, nor do we have any meaningful trope lists in these Creator articles, then they don't belong here. In principle, documentaries can use tropes. In practice, most aren't tropable because there is insufficient narrative content, and in any event, the shit D'Souza vomits out probably violates ROCEJ.

If there's a better place to take this, please feel free to do so, but locking the article is not a solution to anything. It just means we have a bad, locked article.

I am also very irritated when every time someone brings up a problematic article, someone else points out a different article that we haven't talked about that potentially has the same issues. Two wrongs don't make a right, but equally, every article is different.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#30290: Oct 20th 2022 at 5:36:15 PM

I've already brought it up here. ROCEJ aside, with no works with own pages and not enough tropes about those works, it may be a stub anyway.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#30291: Oct 20th 2022 at 8:49:05 PM

Sex Death Juxtaposition redirect to Coming and Going because we have Birth-Death Juxtaposition and Life/Death Juxtaposition?

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#30293: Oct 21st 2022 at 3:07:38 PM

And we'll be monitoring it for hate edits, which will net some immediate bans.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
HighfalutinQuelea Since: Sep, 2016
#30294: Oct 21st 2022 at 10:15:14 PM

The Biden page revamp is well-done, looks a lot cleaner and less controversial. Just don't put the blame on me for it being locked, it's not my fault. It was the Mods' decision.

Also, D'Souza's a lying, dishonest propagandist to put it nicely. He doesn't deserve a page here, it'll only serve as Flame Bait.

Edited by HighfalutinQuelea on Oct 21st 2022 at 10:22:15 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#30295: Oct 21st 2022 at 10:18:31 PM

[up] Nobody blamed you for anything dude, you're the one who keeps bringing it up. The D'Souza page was cut, btw.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#30297: Oct 21st 2022 at 11:46:05 PM

And for the record, it wasn't cut for being controversial (we have a lot of pages for those), it was cut for having no tropable material.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#30298: Oct 22nd 2022 at 11:43:52 AM

Unless "Rush" has been disambiguated enough since everything else has been disambiguated, as said at Main.Rush.

Music.Rush to Music.RushBand
Awesome.Rush to Awesome.RushBand
AwesomeMusic.Rush to AwesomeMusic.RushBand
Funny.Rush to Funny.RushBand
Heartwarming.Rush to Heartwarming.RushBand
NightmareFuel.Rush to NightmareFuel.RushBand
TearJerker.Rush to TearJerker.RushBand
Trivia.Rush to Trivia.RushBand
YMMV.Rush to YMMV.RushBand

Laconic.Rush, Quotes.Rush, and WMG.Rush moving manually because there's only one edit.

ReferencedBy.Rush... Gonna fold into Trivia since it only has 4 examples?

Note to Self: Once decided, gotta add Rush (Album) to the disambig, and Pinball.Rush 2022. Probably not a Franchise yet, and also the San Francisco Rush video game series, because Wikipedia calls it Rush, and the PSP game is called Rush?

Edited by Malady on Oct 22nd 2022 at 4:35:40 AM

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#30299: Oct 23rd 2022 at 7:20:41 AM

On Resident Evil, please cut the link to Resident Evil Nemesis - it was too short and merged back via the CSP thread, and now it's a red link. Monster: Resident Evil also doesn't exist, so it won't be undone in any later swaps. Thanks!

BlueMonday1984 Since: Jan, 2020 Relationship Status: In another castle
#30300: Oct 23rd 2022 at 12:25:12 PM

Any particular consensus here on whether or not The King Of Hate should go in the Permanent Red Link Club?

His page was removed for being near-entirely bashing him, whilst his Horrible and Dethroning Moment subpages were cut for similar reasons.

I've already removed all the red links I know of, and removed some examples altogether.

Edited by BlueMonday1984 on Oct 23rd 2022 at 8:25:23 PM


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