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Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7701: Aug 29th 2020 at 10:57:55 AM

[up][up][up] @miraculous

Christina Light, the Princess Casamassima,<- comma is a charismatic, intelligent Italian-American socialite turned vampiric anarchist and terrorist seeking to create a better world. Light is a master manipulator who plays and seduces men to her cause before disposing of them when they are no longer of use. Bringing Kate Reed into her cause, Light reveals to her a plot to bomb the Tower of London, causing Kate to attempt to stop it.<- period as planned with Her actual endgame is to have Kate framed and executed for the botched bombing to make her a martyr to rally an army against Dracula. Defeated, Light returns and outplays General Majin, combining with Yuki Onna to create a safe haven for vampires in Japan called Casamassima Bay. Light then spends an entire century perfecting a way to ascend to godhood,<- comma planning to usher in a new dawn of peace and prosperity for both human and vampirekind alike.

^ You can write "both human and vampirekind" or "human and vampirekind alike". You can't do both, because "both" and "alike" together are redundant.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 29th 2020 at 10:59:36 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#7702: Aug 29th 2020 at 4:02:32 PM

I'll do human and vampirekind alike since I like the flow more. Thanks man. I'll do the changes.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7703: Aug 30th 2020 at 2:43:28 AM

Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage!

  • Drop The Hammer: The big lizards from Glimmer and the earthshapers from Magma Cone attack Spyro with hammers.
  • Metropolis Level: One of the last level is actually named "Metropolis" and takes place in a futuristic city inhabited by robots in business suits.
  • Mix-and-Match Critters: Most enemies in the Mystic Marsh level is a mix of existing animals: there are elephant-snails, rhyno-snails, platypusses that swollen like pufferfishes and kangaroos with flying squirell's wings.
(Note: I'm not sure the term "wings' is correct, what is that thing that flying squirrels use to fly ?)

Welcome to Demon School! Iruma-kun

  • Quizzical Tilt: Both Iruma and Ameri tilt their head on the side with a confused expression when Opera tells them they don't understand the concept of cooking.

Henry Stickmin Series - Shout Out

Bounty/Operative route

  • Henry can convert a Toppat guard to his side by chanting "Wololo". The converted guard will even speak simlish like the Age of Empires 1 units.
  • When fighting the Right Hand Man, Henry can use the self-destruct attack from Worms Armageddon. He will even leave a tombstone.
Executive/Dead route:
  • At the beginning of the route, Henry can use a ninja rope to climb a cliff. The game will then suddenly have Worms Armageddon's physic.

Bob Lennon

  • Author Appeal: As stated in his Fleeing the Complex let's play, MLG videos are a kind of internet humor he really enjoys. His reaction to this game's MLG reference pretty much confirms it.

Worms - Trivia

  • Referenced by...: The Henry Stickmin Series a several references to this game series, notably to Worms Armageddon.
    • At the end of the earpiece route of Infiltrating the Airship, the governement's helicopter can shoot a banana bomb at the Toppat's airship.
    • In the Bounty/Operative route of Completing the Mission, Henry can use the self-destruct attack from Worms Armageddon against the Right Hand Man. He will even leave a tombstone.
    • At the beginning of the Executive/Dead route of Completing the Mission, Henry can use a ninja rope to climb a cliff. The game will then suddenly have Worms Armageddon's physic.

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#7704: Aug 30th 2020 at 8:32:47 AM

A draft for a new trope.

Innocent Beta Bitch is a friend of the Alpha Bitch who isn't as mean as the alpha.

They are hinted as being much nicer than they seem. This becomes more apparent whenever they aren't with the alpha. And any meanness they do show is portrayed as them following the alpha's lead and not truly meaning it.

Alternatively, they are portrayed as being much dumber or not being able to think for themselves, so they just follow the Alpha Bitch's lead.

There's a good chance they will break the friendship after too much cruelty from the alpha. Also, expect them to end up being friends with the Alpha Bitch's enemies.

Edited by WhirlRX on Aug 30th 2020 at 7:06:36 AM

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#7705: Aug 30th 2020 at 12:16:53 PM

[up] Not about the grammar, I do have Reluctant Bully being drafted, so that might cover it but it sounds just distinct enough to at least be an overlapping, but different, trope. Just letting you know.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7706: Aug 30th 2020 at 3:33:11 PM

[up] x 3 @jOSEFdelaville

One of the last levels is actually named "Metropolis"...

Most enemies in the Mystic Marsh level are a mix of existing animals: there are elephant-snails, rhino-snails, platypi that are swollen like pufferfishes and kangaroos with flying squirrel gliding membranes.

^ According to The Other Wiki article on flying squirrels, it's called a "patagium". I used the term "gliding membranes" because it's easier to understand.

Both Iruma and Ameri tilt their head to the side with a confused expression...

The game will then suddenly have Worms Armageddon's physics.

The Henry Stickmin Series has several references to...

...the government's helicopter can shoot a banana bomb...

Edited by Arivne on Aug 30th 2020 at 3:40:35 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7707: Aug 30th 2020 at 3:39:10 PM

[up] x 3 @Whirl RX

They are hinted as being much nicer than they seem. This becomes more apparent whenever they aren't with the alpha. Any meanness they do show...

Alternatively, they are portrayed as being much dumber or not being able to think for themselves,<- comma so they just follow the Alpha Bitch's lead.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 30th 2020 at 3:39:48 AM

Stardust120 Since: May, 2019
#7708: Aug 30th 2020 at 6:37:04 PM

ID: INVADED characters

  • Blindfolded Vision: The female Hakaido wears a blindfold to cover her eyes for unknown reason due and she has no idea why she's wearing it due to amnesia. She was about to take it off, but she change her mind. She thinks she should leave it on because she feels like their nothing else on her face. This doesn't stop her to solving mysteries as a the Brilliant Detective with her male counterpart.
  • Literal Split Personality: According to Habutae, Inami's personality has been divided into two people inside an Id well. The female Hakaido took a form of Hahoshi Inami and inherits most of her personality. The male Hakaido took a form of younger version of her former boyfriend Kazuta who is helpful, loyal and obedient towards the female Hakaido.

Edited by Stardust120 on Aug 30th 2020 at 6:48:14 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7709: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:33:48 PM

[up]

Blindfolded Vision: The female Hakaido wears a blindfold to cover her eyes for unknown reasons due and she has no idea why she's wearing it due to amnesia. She was about to take it off, but she changed her mind. She thinks she should leave it on because she feels like there's nothing else on her face. This doesn't stop her from solving mysteries as a the Brilliant Detective with her male counterpart.

^ The trope Blindfolded Vision is about how someone who wears a blindfold can see as well while wearing it as they could if they weren't wearing it. You don't say anywhere in your example that Hakaido can do this, so a reader will have no idea whether it fits the trope or not. That makes it a Zero-Context Example.

^ You could reduce your post to "Hakaido wears a blindfold to cover her eyes, but she can see just as well as she could if she didn't wear it." Everything else in the example isn't relevant to the trope and can be deleted.

According to Habutae, Inami's personality has been divided into two people inside an Id well. The female Hakaido takes the form of Hahoshi Inami and inherits most of her personality. The male Hakaido takes the form of a younger version of her former boyfriend Kazuta,<- comma who is helpful, loyal and obedient towards the female Hakaido.

Edited by Arivne on Aug 31st 2020 at 4:34:12 AM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7710: Sep 1st 2020 at 9:14:07 PM

For MGCM:

  • Bleached Underpants: Downplayed. The SFW version of Magicami has all hentai scenes and some Fan Disservice from DX version removed and slightly retconned for general audiences. Though, this game is still risqué and has some Fanservice.

    YMMV:
  • Difficulty Spike: A few battle stages in Chapter 8 suffers the sudden difficulty change. They have some types of enemies that have bigger HP.
  • Fetish Retardant: Apparently, Studio MGCM is aware that some players complain or disgust about the fetishized violences and gore toward the heroines, especially in the main story in DX, which gets unexpectedly Grimdark after that first hentai scene in Chapter 4 Episode 5. Which is almost certain why they have the SFW version available.

Edited by Minorica on Sep 3rd 2020 at 8:01:17 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7711: Sep 2nd 2020 at 1:51:28 AM

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs - YMMV

  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Flint lying about the fact he has an allergy to peanuts stops being funny a little aside when you realize that his voice actor, Bill Hader, does have this allergy.

Smash Bros Lawl - Character (New Hercules)

  • Pec Flex: He flexes his pecs in one of his taunts and one of his victory animations.

Henry Stickmin Series - Character (Right Hand Man)

  • Blue Is Heroic: If Henry rewire him to his side, his red cyborg eye become blue.
  • What An Idiot: Says this In-Universe if Henry (with Ellie's approval) uses a needle to pop the fulton that was carrying the money cart they were all standing on in the air. Which kills Henry and Ellie, but not the Right Hand Man since he can fly.

Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage!

  • Mundane Utility: Earthshapers from Freacture Hills may sometime use their pickaxes to scratch their back.
  • Powerful Pick: Earthshapers from Fracture Hills use pickaxes as weapons.

MadameButterflyKnife Semain Calm from the Holocene Since: Mar, 2019 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Semain Calm
#7712: Sep 2nd 2020 at 5:11:51 AM

~jOSEFdelaville

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs - YMMV

  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Flint lying about the fact he has an allergy to peanuts stops being funny a little aside when you realize that his voice actor, Bill Hader, actually does have this allergy.

(Personally, I am a bit on the fence about counting this as a "Funny Aneurysm" Moment, but you should definitely ask someone else about their opinion on this.)

Henry Stickmin Series - Character (Right Hand Man)

  • Blue Is Heroic: If Henry rewires him to his side as part of some Heel–Face Brainwashing, his red cyborg eye becomes blue.

(I added the part about Heel–Face Brainwashing in order to clarify what was going on in the scene.)

  • What an Idiot!: He says this In-Universe if Henry (with Ellie's approval) uses a needle to pop the fulton that was carrying the money cart they were all standing on, in the air. Which kills Henry and Ellie, but not the Right Hand Man since he can fly.

Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage!

  • Mundane Utility: Earthshapers from Fracture Hills may sometimes use their pickaxes to scratch their back.

and the public won't dwell on my transmission cause it wasn't televised.
jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7713: Sep 2nd 2020 at 5:42:47 AM

^ I kinda agree for the "Funny Aneurysm" Moment but I wanted to correct the one that was already here since it had an error though it may be better to remove it altogether.

Edited by jOSEFdelaville on Sep 2nd 2020 at 2:43:01 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7714: Sep 2nd 2020 at 2:34:37 PM

[up][up], [up][up][up]

I would make the following additional corrections:

...uses a needle to pop the futon that was carrying the money cart they were all standing on <- no comma in the air. This kills Henry and Ellie, but not the Right Hand Man since he can fly.

^ I assume you meant futon, since it's the only similar word that could fit.

Earthshapers from Fracture Hills may sometimes use their pickaxes to scratch their backs.

^ Since "Earthshapers" and "pickaxes" are plural, "backs" must be too.

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#7715: Sep 2nd 2020 at 7:09:57 PM

For Complete Monster:

  • The Bad Girl: Fukuda is a shady Japanese bussinessman that participates in illegal trades and the worst of the many lovers of the titular Bad Girl, offering her protection and a new identity as "Kuriko" in exchange for becoming one of his many mistresses and partner-in-crime. Revealed to be a degenerate fetishist, Fukuda uses the Bad Girl as his Sex Slave and forces her into humilliating and painful sexual acts to saciate his own lust and break her will, making the Bad Girl develop genital injuries and Stockholm Syndrome towards him. A heartless man with a seemingly inoffensive appareance, Fukuda's torture of the Bad Girl would haunt her for years.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Sep 3rd 2020 at 12:07:39 PM

Watch me destroying my country
jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7716: Sep 3rd 2020 at 8:38:31 AM

[up][up] It's actually called a "fulton" in the game. I actually didn't know this word so I just re-typed what I read.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7717: Sep 4th 2020 at 1:22:17 AM

[up][up] @Kazuya Prota

Fukuda is a shady Japanese businessman who participates in illegal trades and is the worst of the many lovers of the titular Bad Girl, offering her protection and a new identity as "Kuriko" in exchange for becoming one of his many mistresses and partners-in-crime. Revealed to be a degenerate fetishist, Fukuda uses the Bad Girl as his Sex Slave and forces her into humiliating and painful sexual acts to satiate his own lust and break her will, inflicting genital injuries and making her develop Stockholm Syndrome towards him. A heartless man with a seemingly inoffensive appearance, Fukuda's torture of the Bad Girl would haunt her for years.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7718: Sep 4th 2020 at 1:26:29 AM

[up][up] @jOSEFdelaville

The Real Life definitions of the word "fulton" don't fit in that sentence.

Based on the context, I suspect that the author is using the word "fulton" to mean a kind of steam engine-powered vehicle, as a reference to the early steamboat inventor Robert Fulton.

Edited by Arivne on Sep 4th 2020 at 1:29:26 AM

jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7719: Sep 4th 2020 at 2:11:38 AM

[up] According to the Henry Stickmin Shout Out page. The fulton come from Metal Gear Solid V and according to that games page, the fulton is a balloon used to pick up people and this page does spells it as "fulton".

Josh1999 Since: Jun, 2020
#7720: Sep 4th 2020 at 1:10:15 PM

Michael Katsuro It’s been a while since we talked, but can you go over this entry before posting it?

For What An Idiot/Pokémon

  • On one episode, Misty rows the boat the gang is on by Beedrills and Kakunas and she gets scared by them and she starts to row faster.
    • You Were Expecting: Misty to row the boat in the current direction that they were going to get past the Beedrills.
    • But Instead: She turns the boat around to get away from the Beedrills rather than going forward.

Stardust120 Since: May, 2019
#7721: Sep 5th 2020 at 11:53:04 AM

The Romance of Tiger and Rose

  • Star-Crossed Lovers: In Chen Xiao Qian's original transcript, Han Shou and Chen Chu Chu are supposed to be portrayed as tragic lovers since they come from two different kingdoms at war with each other. They choose their home kingdom instead of being together. In the original ending, Han Shou lets Chen Chu Chu kills him because he will rather be kill by the woman he loves than kill her himself.
  • Trapped in Another World: Chen Xiao Qian got transport inside of her own transcript in the body of a minor character named Chen Qian Qian who suppose to die at the beginning of the story.
  • Platonic Life-Partners: The Chen's servants with the Chen family remains completely platonic and they have no romantic feelings between them. When Han Shou's father mistaken Chief of Huayuan City's servant Sang Qi for her husband, he completely denies it.

Edited by Stardust120 on Sep 6th 2020 at 11:41:54 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7722: Sep 6th 2020 at 12:16:15 PM

[up]

In the original ending, Han Shou lets Chen Chu Chu kill him because he would rather be killed by the woman he loves than kill her himself.

Chen Xiao Qian was transported inside of her own transcript in the body of a minor character named Chen Qian Qian who was supposed to die at the beginning of the story.

The Chens' servants with the Chen family remain completely platonic and they have no romantic feelings between them. When Han Shou's father mistakes Chief of Huayuan City's servant...

Edited by Arivne on Sep 6th 2020 at 12:16:45 PM

jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7723: Sep 7th 2020 at 1:02:14 AM

Henry Stickmin Series - Character (the Wall's guards)

  • Amazingly Embarrassing Parents: One guard named Matteus Guardsmith wears earmuffs bought by his mother, which is something he finds embarrassing.
  • Big Eater: Joey Walnut tends to order enough food for three people and eat it all by himself.
  • Dishing Out Dirt: Kado Ito has earth bending powers.
  • Informed Ability: Karlov Cherink's bio says that he's a Master Swordsman but if Henry fights him in a swords fight, he will go down in one it.
  • Master Swordsman: Karlov Cherink's bio says he's this but we don't see him putting a fight when Henry fights him.
  • Nepotism: Ryan Helberd's bio says that he is one of the Wall's youngest employees and that he gets special treatment, because his father is a higher up.
  • Never Heard That One Before: Joe Joshin's bio says that he heard the "Just Joshin' ya" joke seven million times.

Smash Bros Lawl - Characters (Sheev)

  • Laser Blade:
    • He uses his lightsaber for some of his A moves and his up B.
    • During his Up B, he can also summon General Grievous who spins his own four lightsabers.

The Chosen One

  • One of the main stick figures in the Animator vs. Animation series is actually named "The Chosen One". He wasn't chosen by gods nor does he have any quests, however. His name seems to simply indicate his power level and the animator intentionally created an over-powered stick figure to fight for fun. It took years of real time to see him do something heroic which is stopping a virus from infecting every computers in the world, starting by the animator's computer despite the animosity toward each others they used to have.

Sock Series

  • The Dying Walk: Shortly after the big fight against the gods is over, Ceriazibus takes a few steps and fall over, likely dead of exhaustion and from losing two heads out of three.

Asterix and the Roman Agent - Trivia

Fanfic Ideas - Homestuck

  • What if all of the 12 beta trolls achieved God Tier and made it alive until the end ?
  • What if there was no alpha kids nor alpha trolls because the situation didn't ask for an universe reset ?
  • What if the characters explored the potential of the Alchemiter by fusing as much entities and objects possible and tried as many extensions possible with the Jumper Block Extansion ?
(Note: the last one seems more like a general idea than a fanfic idea, if you don't think it fit in fanfic idea, don't bother then)

Edited by jOSEFdelaville on Sep 7th 2020 at 3:59:58 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7724: Sep 7th 2020 at 3:44:49 PM

[up]

Kado Ito has earth bending powers.

^ What does "has earth bending powers" mean? It doesn't make any sense unless the reader is familiar with Avatar: The Last Airbender. This is a Zero-Context Example.

...if Henry fights him in a sword fight, he will go down in one hit.

Karlov Cherink's bio says he's this but we don't see him putting up a fight when Henry fights him.

^ "...says he's this..." Says he's what? This is another Zero-Context Example.

...he gets special treatment <- no comma because his father is a higher up.

He uses his lightsaber for some of his A moves and his up B.

^ I have no idea what "...his up B..." means.

During his Up B <- no comma, he can also summon General Grievous,<- comma who spins his own four lightsabers.

^ I still have no idea what "...his up B..." means.

...It took years of real time to see him do something heroic,<- comma which is stopping a virus from infecting every computer in the world, starting with the animator's computer despite the animosity toward each other they used to have.

Shortly after the big fight against the gods is over, Ceriazibus takes a few steps and falls over, likely dead of exhaustion and from losing two heads out of their three heads.

What if all of the 12 beta trolls achieved God Tier and made it alive to the end?<- no space

What if there were no alpha kids nor alpha trolls because the situation didn't ask for an universe reset?<- no space

What if the characters explored the potential of the Alchemiter by fusing together as many entities and objects as possible and tried as many extensions as possible with the Jumper Block Extension?<- no space

Edited by Arivne on Sep 7th 2020 at 3:54:21 AM

jOSEFdelaville Since: Dec, 2018
#7725: Sep 8th 2020 at 12:12:32 AM

[up] I mean, Avatar: The Last Airbender did not invent the words "bending" or "bender". Even someone who knows nothing about it can guess that it means he can bend earth. But anyway what do you think of: Dishing Out Dirt: Kado Ito has the power to control earth by distance.

As for A moves and B moves, these are button input from Super Smash Bros and since Smash Bros Lawl is a parody of this game, anyone familiar with it will know what it mean. You don't explain that a koopa is a tortoise in the Super Mario Bros pages do you ? Looking back, I can just replace A moves with normal moves and B moves with special moves.

Edited by jOSEFdelaville on Sep 8th 2020 at 1:49:48 PM


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