Hindsight Cleanup

Well I saw whoever added it was edit-warring over it, but besides that it seems like a hell of a stretch and an excuse to complain about Wish. Worth cutting.

Discombobulate.

This definitely seems to be worth cutting as well including the fact it is a bit of a stretch from what I have read.

Just more complaining about Wish (2023). Cut away.

Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on Apr 20th 2024 at 11:11:01 AM

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird

Okay cut with a link here.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

Almost everything in the Hilarious in Hindsight entry on YMMV.Hazbin Hotel is just Trivia about the foreign voice casts ("Did you know Charlie's Japanese VA voiced a Disney Princess once? And Alastor and Vox's Italian VAs are brothers?")

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.

I think all those can be cut.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird

Cut all of them. The last one was moved to Casting Gag as it was suggested some pages ago.

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.

Yeah it does sound like all of the examples shown should be cut out of the example so no objections there.

Wonder if this could count for hilarious in hindsight for Power Rangers S.P.D. and Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger.

• In SPD, Boom dreams of being a Ranger and once had a Image Spot of being the Orange SPD Ranger. In Dekarangers 20th anniversary special, they introduced a new Dekaranger called Primier Dekared which actually has a orange tint to his suit. Not only that, the the color of the uniform when unmorphed is actually orange.

Considering SPD was an adaptation of Dekaranger, I say it counts.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.

From Lone Survivor

• Harsher in Hindsight: As if the terrifying descriptions of combat and death weren't bad enough, a man was killed at a screening of the film adaptation for refusing to stop texting.

Not actually similar to the events of the film, plus it's a bit of an oversimplification since it was an argument over texting (during the previews) that escalated into a fight.

This might be an example of Overshadowed by Controversy.

Similarly, The Dark Knight Rises has a harsher entry on the infamous shooting that may work better as an overshadowed entry. It also has some iffy hilarious entries:

• Hilarious in Hindsight:
  • A comic book aspect of Bane that is Adapted Out of the film is the source of his super strength, a super-soldier steroid called venom. Hell, just seeing Tom Hardy wearing a black mask with "teeth" qualifies as this alone.
  • Thomas Wayne is still alive and being held hostage by Catwoman.
  • Bruce Wayne's doctor is Mr. Mxyzptlk. Knowing this, maybe he caught on that Bruce was Batman, but decided keeping the mystery would be more fun?
  • Batman once again saves Gotham by ridding it of a bomb...

Plus this doesn't seem valid:

• Olderthan They Think: This isn't the first time Anne Hathaway has played a delinquent. In 2005 she had the lead role in the drama Havoc, where her character engages with gangbangers and drug dealers.

The bomb part is wrong way hindsight, so it can be cut.

Looking over YMMV.Cheers, I found a few Hindsight entries that are a little iffy:

• Harsher in Hindsight:
  • In the first part of the tenth season, Sam and Rebecca have a character arc in which they attempt to have a baby. (This was an attempt to incorporate Kirstie Alley's pregnancy into the show.) The arc ends when Sam and Rebecca realize they're not ready to be parents and Sam imagines the son that will never be fading away. It's rather sad on its own, but it gets sadder when you remember the real reason the arc was abandoned: Alley had miscarried. The would-be son insists that Sam will have him one day. However, the show ends with Sam single and a later guest appearance on Frasier even derails a possible wedding he intended to have.
  • One episode has a newspaper mistakenly run Rebecca’s obituary. In 2022, Kirstie Alley would become the first main-billed cast member to die after the show ceased production.
• Hilarious in Hindsight:
  • Woody Harrelson plays a character who winds up in the audience of Jeopardy! both in the episode "What Is... Cliff Clavin?" and a few years later, in the film White Men Can't Jump.
  • Sam Malone has his own Plan Z in an episode of Season 9.
  • In the first episode, Diane takes a call from a Vicki, who Sam has no interest in talking to. Decades later, Ted Danson would play a character with a nemesis by the name of Vicky.
  • Shortly before Robin walks into her life, Rebecca bemoans to Sam that the rich, ambitious, upwardly mobile men she deserves to be courted by aren't exactly beating down a door and queuing up to go out with her. She specifically mentions Donald Trump as an example of the sort of man who is exactly right for her. Even more hilarious when you realize that Kirstie Alley, who played Rebecca, voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020 (this could also be considered Harsher in Hindsight, depending on your political views).
  • When Shelley Long left the series, many feared it would bring about the end of the show. Her successor, Kirstie Alley, wound up appearing in more episodes than Long did.
  • In an elaborate prank Sam makes his friends think they are a target of a Mob hit and have them driven all the way out to North Dakota. The destination of the bus they took is Seattle.
  • In the season 2 episode "Fortunes and Men's Weights," Coach describes a salesman who conned him into buying an antique scale as being like a cross between Abraham Lincoln and Adolf Hitler.
  • Rebecca's most notable bosses and crushes are Evan Drake and Robin Colcord. Just a few months after Robin's debut, Tim Drake became the third DC Comics Robin.
  • The fantasy flashforward in "I Do And Adieu" is already slightly giggle-worthy given it's clearly just Ted Danson and Shelley Long in make-up to sort of look elderly, but even moreso given Ten Danson ended up aging somewhat more differently than shown.

I should note that the entry about Kirstie Alley's miscarriage was something I originally submitted when I thought we should have something like Fridge Sadness. Now that we do have that, maybe the entry could be moved to the show's Fridge page? Everything else seems to have too small a connection.

Not Fridge anything (that's for things implied but not stated within the work), that first entry might fit better on Reality Subtext. The second feels like a stretch, all these actors will die one day. The one about Trump feels valid, if it isn't too politically fraught (though the last sentence should go). Drake and Robin seems close enough. The rest I feel are either too much of a stretch or lacking in context.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.

Alley's death might have a weak connection because she's the first main cast member to die, but I'm not sure if it's quite strong enough since she was just mistaken for dead.

Is the Seattle one meant to connect to Frasier? That could work with context.

Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 30th 2024 at 11:38:44 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

From YMMV.The Borrowers 1997

• Hilarious in Hindsight:
  • A young Draco Malfoy? Mr. Weasley? Horace Slughorn? Some guy named Ocious P. Potter? Whoa...
  • House shows up as a polite police officer and we get to hear the ultimate Dr. Jerk say "courtesy is the glue that holds society together."

This just seems like actor association.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

Yeah, that might fit under Retroactive Recognition, but the House example doesn’t even work as hindsight.

Discombobulate.

YMMV.The Blind Side has two separate Harsher in Hindsight entries concerning the 2023 lawsuit about Michael Oher and the Tuohy family's relationship. One is under a "multimedia" heading that seems to have been added specifically for it, and the other is commented out under the film section on the basis that it was unconfirmed at the time.

Remove both? Remove the multimedia one and un-comment the film one? They were added by different people at different times, but they're about the same thing, and I think it's a valid example personally regarding the accusations Oher made and criticisms of exploitation about the film itself.

Edited by Zarina on May 2nd 2024 at 11:49:38 AM

I found this on The Crossing

Seems like Fan Myopia to me? I haven't seen The Crossing myself, but I can also imagine that the reason Hamilton doesn't get many lines is that he's a side character in that film but the main character in Hamilton.

Edited by Diesel on May 3rd 2024 at 12:02:01 PM

From Girls' Frontline, I feel like this another BLM shoehorning, how do you think?

• Harsher in Hindsight: One of Thompson's secretary lines has her enthusing about the prospect of a world without police. In early June of 2020, a faction of George Floyd protesters attempted to make this a reality with the self-proclaimed Autonomous Zone in Capitol Hill. Let's just say it didn't end well.

Does this look remarkable enough for HilariousInHindsight.Pokemon?

• In the 1999 board book I'm Not Pikachu!, children who watch Pokémon: The First Movie in a theater come out resembling either Pikachu, Mewtwo, or Mew. Twenty years later, the first live-action Pokémon movie would boast a human man trapped in his Pikachu's body in the title role, as well as a villain who transfers himself into Mewtwo's body during the climax.

Yeah, that's another "the police was completely uncontroversial until the 2020s" shoehorn.

That seems really weak.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird