Is this an example?

I feel it's a stretch too since No-Gear Level seems to require the Player Character to have the gear in the first place before it's taken away for the level.

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Can Was Once a Man apply to zombies and stuff like that?

I feel it can, although the trope seems to be focusing on those creatures retaining their own mind (or some semblance of consciousness), so it would mostly apply to Revenant Zombies.

Ok thanks.

I tried to avoid it, but I channeled my inner Leeroy Jenkins and added Rooting for the Empire and Draco in Leather Pants to Gargamel and Draco in Leather Pants to Rattlesnake Jake. Feel free to expand them if you want.

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For the Miraculous Ladybug fanfic A Small but Stubborn Fire I'm not sure if these would be cases of Irony or Dramatic Irony

• Sabine sees Ladybug as an avatar of hope and wanting that for her daughter not knowing that they are one and the same.
• When their conversation brings up Cat Noir rejecting Marinette’s feelings Sabine points out to Tom that Cat Noir is in love with Ladybug. What chance does their daughter have against a woman in a skintight outfit.
• Sabine thinking she should teach Marinette some martial arts so she can defend herself. If only she knew what her daughter could actually do.
• Sabine compliments that through the connections that her daughter has made that Paris practically revolves around Marinette. Paris also relies on Marinette's role as Ladybug to keep them safe.
• When Tom is hesitant about Sabine going to talk to Nathalie about if anything has happened to Marinette during her internship due to the woman’s coldness, Sabine writes it off and tells him that Nathalie isn’t a villain. Little does she know that she works for Hawk Moth.
• Nathalie thinks that Adrien being in a relationship with Marinette would be much better than his obsession with Ladybug.

Those are explicitly Dramatic Irony, since they depend on the audience knowing things the characters don't

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Does this count as a downplayed example of Wacky Marriage Proposal?

• Chicory: A Colorful Tale: More of a "Wacky Can-We-Date Proposal", but instead of addressing her Second Love directly, Pepper has Pizza deliver a letter conveying her feelings to "the most beautiful girl in Luncheon".

"I just want what everyone else has, that's all."

From Film.Back To The Future 1:

• What Happened to the Mouse?:
  • The Libyans. They come charging in, shooting at Doc Brown from the van, they hit a kiosk and the van tips over. Then Marty, Doc, and the film forget about them completely, even having a joyful reunion at the end without bothering to see what's going on with the homicidally angry terrorists in the van a few yards away. Considering the speed they were going at, they probably were badly injured or killed in the crash. The Novelization confirms the Libyans were arrested by the police after the commotion led to police calls from the mall's neighbors.
  • What happened to Doc Brown's remaining plutonium? Did he use it all before fitting Mr. Fusion, or did he just throw it in a bin somewhere? (Which, given the general recklessness he displays during the trilogy, is not that much of a stretch.)
  • When Doc traveled to 2015, he took Einstein with him, but when he came back, Einstein was missing. In Part II, Doc tells Marty that Einstein was in a suspended animation kennel between the trips.

Thoughts on what to do with these examples?

Edited by gjjones on Mar 2nd 2024 at 6:29:15 AM

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The first and third should be cut because of the justifying edits.

The second is iffy as well Plutonium is not a character after all I don't know if the trope applies.

Found this entry while editing Ocular Gushers, that is commented out for unknown reasons:

• Such fate befalls the Miis afflicted with the "Crying" status in Miitopia. Some enemies like Banshees can also do as such in order to inflict said condition on the player's party. It can also appear outside of battles as (exaggerated) expressions.

Is this entry safe to readd as-is?

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It needs to explain the ocular gushers. As is, it could be used for any exaggerated expression

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• No Mouth: King has a mouth, but it is rarely◊ visible, and talks without ever moving it. "Adventures in the Elements" provides the best look at it so far when King yawns. It's also shown every time he uses his shockwave screams.

I don't think it's an example, since King does have a mouth.

This entry was recently added to the Real Life folder on Rejection Ritual:

• In the 18th and 19th Centuries, "Cutting" referred to acts where people either deliberately ignored or pretended not to notice the rejected individual. Known variations included:
  • The Cut Indirect was a simple aversion of eye contact or not acknowledging the other person's presence.
  • The Cut Direct was deliberately turning one's back on a person and then pretending they weren't there.
  • Pretending to have never met someone before is called the Cut Courteous.
  • Actively going out of one's way to avoid interacting with someone is called the Cut Circumbendibus.
  • The Cut Sublime (or Cut Celestial) was turning one's eyes upward, while the Cut Infernal was turning one's eyes downward towards the ground (or one's shoes).
  • Rumping was a particularly extreme example of both the Cut Direct and the Cut Infernal.

However, I'm not certain that it fits. When I made the trope, what I intended it for was when the rejection either has some very obvious ceremonial or ritualistic component to it, such as the Klingon discommendation, or to have a very obvious group social aspect to it, such as the "lockout" example from Cerebus the Aardvark. As written, and looking at the linked article, I'm not certain that this really fits, as it just comes across as "ignoring with style". What do you think?

Edited by Willbyr on Mar 2nd 2024 at 11:06:28 AM

I found this on YMMV.Madame Web 2024

• Fandom Rivalry: After Madame Web's disastrous opening, fans of The Marvels (2023) - which got all sorts of heat from the Internet for being a rare Marvel Cinematic Universe bomb - were quick to say that the latter's box office doesn't look so bad in comparison. This ties into the rivalry between the MCU and Sony's Spider-Man Universe or SSU which Madame Web is part of.

This seems like a very on sided rivalry.

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Is there even a fandom of Madame Web to take part in said rivalry? I agree with cutting because it doesn't really sound like an example, but I just felt like being snarky.

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That's definitely just "people think this movie wasn't as bad as the other movie"

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Found this example on the Hazbin Hotel: The Hazbin Hotel — Staff page under Vaggie:

• Satellite Love Interest: Downplayed. We do get to know a little more about Vaggie when it's discovered that she used to be an angel from heaven, and she does have an actual personality - Serious, loyal, protective, self-hating, sarcastic, honest, etc. However, most of her character and the things she talks revolve around Charlie, whether it is about looking after her or supporting her dream. In episode 3, she sings about how her biggest concern is not being worthy of Charlie and she won't know who she is if she can't be the perfect girlfriend for her.

I don't think this counts as an example, since the whole point of the trope is that the character's personality revolves around their love and has little to it aside from that, except Vaggie has an established personality, and has aspects to her character outside of just being a love interest to Charlie, such as having a Vitriolic Best Buds relationship with Angel Dust, a grudge against the Executioner Lute who is the one who mutilated her, a distaste for Alastor and his caring more about things being "entertaining" over actually helping, and even develops a student-mentor relationship with the Overlord Carmilla.

Even the part about her singing at the end of Episode 3 is misconstrued, as her half of the song "Whatever it takes" is less about being the "perfect girlfriend" to Charlie, and more about her devotion and desire to protect her, meant to parallel the other singer, Carmilla, desiring to protect her daughters.

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Sounds more like an extension of the legitimate Marvel/Sony Fandom Rivalry but I don't know if that would need to go on this page if both sides agree this particular movie sucks.

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That does sound like misuse.

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The following Squick entry for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth was removed with the editing reason "The "particularly in the west" part feels more like this is a case of Values Dissonance, which has a 20 year waiting period."

The argument regarding Yuffie's portrayal in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and Remake are an extension of a clash on social media that's been going on for the last several years regarding ages of consent and whether or not they should apply to fictional characters. On one side there are those who argue that there's no harm in sexualizing underaged fictional characters—not just in Japanese animation and video-games, but in media in general—because "they're not real", and on the other side are those who believe that anything risqué involving fictional characters under the age of 18 is pedophilia and should be treated with the same weight as it would if a real person was involved. I suppose that could be seen as qualifiying as Values Dissonance, as it in-part stems from Japan tending to have more... permissive, for lack of a better word... attitudes towards sexualizing underaged fictional characters, while North America tends to take a more hardline stance against that—especially Canada, where sexualizing underaged fictional characters is treated with the same weight as though they were real people.

The debate cycles back to the original Final Fantasy VII too, with those same critics decrying Yuffie's design in that game as being overly sexualized and that Don Corneo wants to turn her into a Sex Slave alongside Tifa and Elena.

All that being said, I'm not seeing why it doesn't also count as an example of squick considering it's something that grosses out a section of the audience.

Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 3rd 2024 at 7:51:53 AM

While some people are less bothered by 16-year-old characters in revealing clothing (execution has a lot to do with it, because some 16-year-olds in real life do just wear clothes like that and it can be depicted without sexualization), Squick is subjective and it's probably fair to list it if this is a reaction people have had.

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From Characters.RWBY Ruby Rose:

• Death by Irony: In Volume 8, during a scene in which she drinks tea with Weiss and Blake, we get to see one of the major cracks in her psyche, where she ponders if what she's doing is the right thing. How does she ascend, which was caused by Neo breaking her and showing this exact line of thinking? By drinking tea.

Since Death by Irony is a Death Trope and Ruby didn't die after all, does this example count?

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I've been going through music tropes so that I can add them to Hello! Project's page (which I need to crosswick after I tidy it up a bit more) and came across the Uncommon Time trope. I know absolutely nothing about the technical side of music, but I am aware that a lot of Hello! Project songs (by several of their artists) are in a 16-beat time signature. It's in Japanese, but one of the newer songwriters, Hoshibe Shou, talks about 16-beat Hello! Project songs here and gives a few examples (Berryz Koubou's "Anata Nashi de wa Ikite Yukenai", amongst others) while demonstrating what a 16-beat time signature is like.

Is 16 beats considered an uncommon time in pop music in general? From the little bit of reading I've done, it seems like it is, but I'm really unsure. I have no clue if H!P's stuff counts or not.

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I was going to put an example on the Hilarious in Hindsight page of Dorkly and wondered how relevant this example is.

• Pokémon Are More Dangerous Than Guns where Professor Eastwood offers a kid a gun to fight Pokémon and the Pokémon Giratina steals ones of Eastwood's guns to go on a rampage becomes more amusing to watch after the release of Palworld, a game that runs on the idea of "Pokémon with Guns" where both the player and a few Pals pack heat. Dorkly seems aware of this and re-released the video a month after Palworld's release in the YouTube Shorts format.

Edited by JustaUsername on Mar 4th 2024 at 10:15:00 PM

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I think the fact Dorkly sesmingly acknowledged the connection gives it some weight.

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