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brb1006 Since: Aug, 2012
#3051: Oct 19th 2016 at 6:48:53 PM

Here's a better version let me know if this needs more work.

  • Editedfor Syndication: The Japanese and Arabic versions of the anime had longer scenes. These include the Queen's arrival at the Hive where Maya and Willy are wearing chef hats and when Miss Casandra is injured and before Maya leaves the hive she says goodbye to her teacher and starts to cry. These scenes aren't present in the other versions of the anime.

Studio 100

  • Milestone Celebration: Studio 100 released a song called "Feestje" It features the cast of current popular shows created by Studio 100. Which features characters such as Kabouter Plop,K3, and Mega Mindy celebrating the company's 20th anniversary.
  • Everythings Better With Princesses: The show "Prinsessia" stars a group of princesses that all live in a castle.

Studio 100 Shows:

  • Flin & Flo
  • Lolly Lolbroek
  • Prinsessia

Trivia page for Kabouter Plop

  • The Other Marty: Since the show was made in Belgium, two versions of the show were released. A were released: a Walloon version ("Lutin Plop") and a Flemish version. The entire cast were played by different actors in the Walloon version. As a result, some of the episodes had to be reshot. However in Fall 2016, Studio 100 began airing the original Flemish episodes with the original cast but with dubbed voices.

The Heartwarming page for Happy Happy Clover

  • An anime exclusive episode titled "Protect The Light Grass" has Clover and friends deciding to grow Light Grass (which are lanterns). However, when a dangerous thunder storm and flood starts heading close to the forest, Clover quickly heads to the area and puts a basket on the plant so it won't die of overfeeding from the flood. Hickory (and later Clover's friends) decided to help her out by also putting their bodies on the basket for their plants. They are later seen holding each other's hands and start humming out loud while the dangerous thunderstorm continues until they fall asleep. Meanwhile, Clover's parents start getting very worried about the disappearance of their daughter and later the entire forest starts searching for them. They later find the group sleeping.

Chi's Sweet Home

  • All-CGI Cartoon: A second adaptation to the manga is coming out in late 2016, in which the characters will be in CGI.

Beatrix Potter

  • Biopic: Has been done twice.
    • The first was a TV exclusive documentary called The Tale Of Beatrix Potter.
    • The second, "Miss Potter", was made in 2006. It goes into more details about her life and includes some of her characters and illustrations becoming animated.

edited 19th Oct '16 6:49:13 PM by brb1006

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
brb1006 Since: Aug, 2012
#3052: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:04:51 PM

Here's a second updated version

  • Adapted Out: Mrs. McGregor (Mr. McGregor's wife) is never seen or mentioned in any Animated Adaptation to Beatrix Potter's TheTaleOfPeterRabbit. Most adaptations would only mention that Mr. McGregor would bake the rabbits into a pie while in the original story (at least the older versions) mentioned that Mrs. McGregor baked Peter's father into a pie. Mrs. McGregor does show up in The World of Peter Rabbit and Friends where she's mentioned in "The Tale Of Peter Rabbit" and seen in "The Tale Of Benjamin Bunny" and "The Tale Of The Flopsy Bunnies".

  • Adaptational Angst Upgrade: In the HBO Family series "Storybook Musical" animated musical of Peter Rabbit. Peter's mother has her opening song about telling her children where to go fetch some blackberries. However, she briefly takes a break from singing and explains why they shouldn't go to Mr. McGregor's garden and what happened to their father. She then sings in a somber and sad tone of the fate of her former husband. Most adaptations would avoid mentioning about their father being baked into a pie but the musical makes this a bit more serious.

  • The HBO Family Original Special "The Sissy Duckling" from 1999 is a different take on the Hans Christian Andersen story The Ugly Duckling. The song "Time Take Time" is a heartwarming song about patience and being yourself.

  • "Storybook Musicals" is an HBO Family original series that adapts various children's stories such as The Tale Of Peter Rabbit, Mike Mulligan and his steam shovel and turn them into a 25 minute or longer episode.

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
brb1006 Since: Aug, 2012
#3053: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:32:10 PM

My last one

For the Triumphant Reprise page: The HBO series "Storybook Musicals" contain two examples of this trope.

  • The song "No one wants us anymore" from "Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel" is first sung when Mike Mulligan is singing sadly about how nobody in town wants to use a steam shovel anymore after the newer shovels came along. At the very end of the episode, Mike Mulligan sings "Someone wants us, someone needs us", which is a positive version of that song after he and Mary Ann decide to stay in the town hall as a janitor after the town loved the work he and Mary Ann did to dig a hole.

  • "So Near And Yet So Far" from Peter Rabbit starts out as a lament song sung by Peter after he starts missing home, since he can't find a way out of Mr. McGregor's garden. After Peter finally escapes his garden and returns home, he is in bed. Peter is in bed with his mother giving him tea and medicine. After he gives an explanation for how he lost his shirt and shoes, Mrs. Rabbit tells Peter to not do it again and mentions that home is not far away. She sings a more uplifting version of the song but changes the lyrics and the song to "So Far And Yet So Near".

  • Evil Is Sexy: Mr. McGregor's white cat has a surprisingly seductive singing voice in the "Storybook Musicals" adaptation of Peter Rabbit as heard in the song "Decisions", about about her deciding whether to eat a fish or another animal.

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
Segal991 A loyal animal lover from Somewhere Beyond the Sea Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, we're lovers, and that is that
A loyal animal lover
#3054: Oct 19th 2016 at 10:06:29 PM

The Tear Jerker page of The Powerpuff Girls (2016)

  • Anytime Bubbles cries. It's even more of a gut punch to listen to because she's voiced by an actual kid note .
  • "Power Up Puff"
    • The scene where Buttercup and Bubbles are showing off their aura powers to the students. Another kid asks Blossom if she can do those, but before she can answer, Buttercup says this:
    Buttercup: So what if she hasn't got her new powers yet! And might never get them! Never get them! NEVER GET THEM! [each time she says "never get them", the camera zooms closer to Blossom's sad face]''
    Blossom: [feelings hurt] I gotta go. I'll see you guys at home.
    [Buttercup looks towards Bubbles worriedly, looking as if she feels bad for what she said]
    • Right after this happens, Blossom flies down the street in the rain, while sad music plays. Blossom sees a bunch of things that remind her of her mediocrity, and finally breaks down when she looks into a mirror and it shatters. The bow on her head even droops.
    Blossom: Geez, I get it! [sobbing]
  • Bubbles saying goodbye to Cheepy in "Cheep Thrills". Thankfully she isn't heard crying, as that would have been much too sad for the viewers to handle.
  • The Professor being heartbroken when he finds out the Girls released his embarrassing secrets to the public in "Secret Swapper Of Doom".

edited 19th Oct '16 10:07:00 PM by Segal991

Oh, I believe in yesterday
OffTheDeepEnd Since: May, 2015
#3055: Oct 19th 2016 at 10:28:35 PM

On the page for the TV series "ZOOM" I would like to change this line:

  • Bottle Episode: "The Making of Zoom" and "How we Became Zoomers".

to this:

  • Bottle Episode: The season one episode "The Making of Zoom" and the season 7 episode "How We Became Zoomers" focus entirely on the cast's experience on being members of the show. The latter averts this slightly as it focuses on their expierience at a camp they attended prior to the filming of the season.

I would also like to change this:

  • Dawson Casting: A pre-teen example: The show says the Zoomers are between the ages of 9 and 13 years old, but in season two they cast Kenny. He was 14 years old at the time, but easily could pass as 10 due to his short stature, plus he hadn't reached puberty yet. He returned for season three as well, even though he had hit puberty and now looked 13. But he still looked young enough to be on the show.

to this:

  • Dawson Casting: A pre-teen example: According to the cast members themselves, Zoomers are cast between the ages of 9 and 13 years old. The second season casted Kenny, who was 14 years old at the time. However, he could easily could pass for 10 due to his short stature, as well as the fact that he hadn't reached puberty yet. He returned for the following season, and despite hitting puberty, still looked young enough to be on the show.

edited 19th Oct '16 10:33:38 PM by OffTheDeepEnd

Segal991 A loyal animal lover from Somewhere Beyond the Sea Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, we're lovers, and that is that
A loyal animal lover
#3056: Oct 20th 2016 at 9:55:54 PM

For The Little Mermaid Ariels Beginning:

  • Skewed Priorities: At the beginning whilst Ariel's family tries to get away from the ship, Athena goes back to grab her music box. She ends up being crushed and killed by the ship because of this.note 

edited 20th Oct '16 9:56:29 PM by Segal991

Oh, I believe in yesterday
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3057: Oct 20th 2016 at 10:53:58 PM

From Strafe 2409's post 3020 at the end of page 122

  • especially in Windows era -> especially in the Windows era
  • the character are bosses of -> the characters are bosses of
  • The stage 1 boss usually being -> The stage 1 boss is usually
  • similar to stage 1 boss -> similar to the stage 1 boss
  • they mostly working -> they mostly work
  • The stage 3 boss mostly denoted by quirky but tenacious personality -> The stage 3 boss is mostly denoted by a quirky but tenacious personality
  • and usually the first to tell your character -> and is usually the first to tell your character
  • has about equal odds -> has a 50/50 chance
  • an amount of Spell Cards more than the others. -> more Spell Cards than the others.
  • Their role or Spell Cards always seems -> Their role and/or Spell Cards always seem
  • so much so their bullet patterns -> so much so that their bullet patterns

Depending on how popular they are, these bosses might be Promoted to Playable in main games and spin-offs; especially the former when they become a Deuteragonist for Reimu and Marisa, effectively become a heroine of their own story.

This should be two separate sentences.

  • Depending on how popular they are, these bosses might be Promoted to Playable in main games and spin-offs. This is especially true in the main games when they become a Deuteragonist for Reimu and Marisa, effectively becoming a heroine of their own story.

  • and in charge of -> and is in charge of
  • Some of these bosses also possessing -> Some of these bosses also possess
  • to help them engaging the heroines. -> to help them engage the heroines.
  • and only be encountered -> and can only be encountered
  • tougher to deal due -> tougher to deal with due
  • and have more -> and having more
  • immune to player's Smart Bomb. -> immune to the player's Smart Bomb.

edited 20th Oct '16 10:58:29 PM by Arivne

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3058: Oct 20th 2016 at 11:01:10 PM

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  • focuses on their expierience -> focuses on their experience
  • The second season casted Kenny -> The second season cast Kenny

Done. :)

Also cleaned up the page's formatting problems (having Trivia and YMMV examples on the main page, illegal Example Indentation, etc.).

edited 20th Oct '16 11:30:02 PM by Arivne

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3059: Oct 20th 2016 at 11:24:42 PM

[up][up][up]

  • At the beginning whilst Ariel's -> At the beginning, whilst Ariel's family

Also, done. :)

Segal991 A loyal animal lover from Somewhere Beyond the Sea Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, we're lovers, and that is that
A loyal animal lover
#3060: Oct 21st 2016 at 7:26:48 PM

The YMMV page of The Powerpuff Girls (2016), I'd like to add some more examples of The Scrappy.

edited 21st Oct '16 7:27:19 PM by Segal991

Oh, I believe in yesterday
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3061: Oct 22nd 2016 at 12:02:51 AM

[up]

Buttercup, because to her -> Buttercup, because of her

And added.

Segal991 A loyal animal lover from Somewhere Beyond the Sea Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Yes, we're lovers, and that is that
A loyal animal lover
#3062: Oct 22nd 2016 at 6:14:24 PM

Happy Tree Friends

  • Heroic BSoD: Sniffles has one at the end of "Dream Job" after suffering many horrible nightmares.
  • Potty Emergency:
    • Petunia in "Happy Trails Part 1", after drinking a lot of juice boxes, and ends up wetting herself when the bus is about to fall off the cliff.
    • Happens to Petunia again in "Wingin' It" while on a plane, and much to her horror, the bathroom's walls are covered in vomit, but this time she does make it after cleaning up the restroom.
    • Flaky gets this in "Royal Flush", after she ate a sandwich with Mr. Pickels inside it.

edited 22nd Oct '16 6:14:40 PM by Segal991

Oh, I believe in yesterday
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3063: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:02:31 AM

[up]

Happy Tree Friends is a Web Animation, not a Web Video (WebVideo/HappyTreeFriends leads to a disambiguation page).

  • Petunia in "Happy Trails Part 1", after drinking a lot of juice boxes, and ends -> "Happy Trails Part 1". After drinking a lot of juice boxes, Petunia ends up
  • wetting herself -> This is a Chained Sinkhole (as per Sinkhole - Chained Sinkhole). Changed to wetting herself.
  • Happens to Petunia again in "Wingin' It" while on a plane, and much -> Happens to Petunia again in "Wingin' It". While on a plane, much
  • Flaky gets this in "Royal Flush", after she ate -> eats

And added. :)

edited 23rd Oct '16 11:50:44 PM by Arivne

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Like reflections in the glass!
#3064: Oct 23rd 2016 at 4:55:47 PM

I got an entry for BrokenBase.Final Fantasy XIV. Concerning certain items on their Chinese/Korean cash shop.

  • The game has a Chinese and Korean versions separated from the Japanese, North American, and European playerbase. These veriosn have a few differences, most notable are the inclusion of extra items on the Mog Station (which is itself controversial). Naturally quite a few people wants these items. But two specific cases count for this trope:
    • The first is the Eastern Lord and Eastern Lady's garb. Not so much their existence but that they were added to theMog Station for NA/EU/JP Clients at 18$ per outfit (for comparison's sake, the Seasonal costumes range form 3-5 dollars and the Cosplay outfits are 15$) Some people went ahead and bought it anyway, while other complained about the price tag.
    • The second set of controversial Chinese items are 2 costumes (and chocobo bardings) with an Angel and a Devil motif (Good Wings, Evil Wings included). Several people have wanted wings in this game and likely want No Export for You to be averted for these items, others however are against them coming to the other regions because of the Mary Sue and Bribing Your Way to Victory stigma wings had been associated with in MMOs.

(note: I wanted to point out that the last two sets have just been released in China, bu Examples Are Not Recent so I want to word these examples has pertaining to the Chinese cash shop items in general, not just those that made their way to the JP/EU/NA clients)

edited 23rd Oct '16 4:57:36 PM by MorningStar1337

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3065: Oct 24th 2016 at 12:11:46 AM

[up]

  • The game has a Chinese and Korean versions -> The game has Chinese and Korean versions
  • separated from -> separate from
  • These veriosn -> These versions
  • These versions have a few differences, most notable -> Run-on sentence. Should be two separate sentences.
  • most notable are the inclusion -> most notable is the inclusion
  • quite a few people wants -> want
  • But two -> Several (so we don't have to rewrite the entry if another is added).
  • Not so much their existence but -> Not so much their existence, but
  • theMog Station -> the Mog Station
  • range form 3-5 dollars -> range from 3-5 dollars
  • Cosplay outfits are 15$) -> Cosplay outfits are 15$).
  • Some people went ahead and bought it anyway -> bought them
  • an Angel and a Devil motif -> an angel and a devil motif (not proper names, so not capitalized)
  • MM Os -> [=MMOs=].

Several people have wanted wings in this game and likely want No Export for You to be averted for these items, others however are against them coming to the other regions because of the Mary Sue and Bribing Your Way to Victory stigma wings had been associated with in MM Os.

This is also a run-on sentence and needs to be split into two sentences.

Added after corrections applied.

edited 25th Oct '16 6:03:24 AM by Arivne

brb1006 Since: Aug, 2012
#3066: Oct 24th 2016 at 8:32:20 PM

Beary Friendly:

  • Lars The Polar Bear Cub from German children's story and animated series "The Little Polar Bear". Is a friendly male polar bear cub who goes on various adventures in an arctic setting who's best friend is a seal named "Robby".
  • Names The Same: So far there a two male seal characters that both share the name Robby. There's the blue/grey colored seal named Robby who is best friends with Pingu the Penguin from the stop-motion series Western Animation/Pingu. The second goes to a male seal from German series "The Little Polar Bear" who becomes friends with Lars the polar bear.

edited 24th Oct '16 8:35:26 PM by brb1006

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3067: Oct 25th 2016 at 6:24:30 AM

[up]

  • from German children's story -> from the German children's story
  • "The Little Polar Bear" -> The Little Polar Bear (How to Write an Example - Emphasis For Work Names)
  • Is a friendly (sentence fragment) -> He is a friendly
  • arctic setting -> Arctic setting
  • who's best friend is a seal named "Robby". -> His best friend is a seal named "Robby".

You're trying to cram too much into the last sentence so I split it into two sentences.

Here's how I re-wrote the second example:

There are two male seal characters who share the name Robby. The first is the blue/grey colored seal who is best friends with Pingu the Penguin in the stop-motion series Pingu. The second is from the German series The Little Polar Bear: he becomes friends with Lars the polar bear.

I added the first example to Beary Friendly and the second to the Western Animation section of Names The Same.

edited 26th Oct '16 3:15:00 AM by Arivne

brb1006 Since: Aug, 2012
#3068: Oct 25th 2016 at 4:24:18 PM

Seldom-Seen Species:

  • The early 2000's Animated Adaptation of German series The Little Polar Bear features an Arctic hare who is one of the supporting characters in the series.

Animated Adaptation:

  • German book series ''The Little Polar Bear" currently has two animated incarnations. The first was made in the 1990's and the 2000's films and TV series.

edited 25th Oct '16 4:37:57 PM by brb1006

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3069: Oct 26th 2016 at 3:24:18 AM

[up]

  • of German series -> of the German book series

  • German book series "The Little Polar Bear" -> The German book series The Little Polar Bear
  • The first was made in the 1990's and the 2000's films and TV series. -> The first was made in the 1990's, and the films and TV series in the 2000's. (I think this is what you meant to say).

With the above changes, added.

edited 26th Oct '16 3:42:26 AM by Arivne

brb1006 Since: Aug, 2012
#3070: Oct 28th 2016 at 12:17:26 PM

Happy Happy Clover

  • Crying Wolf: Episode 12 of the anime titled "Big-Time Thief" involves Cinnamon and Twirl telling Clover and friends that they spotted a wolf stealing berries. However after they notice that Clover notices a leaf that appears to be a trap they go for plan B by using a stone that turns the duo into wolves. Clover and Kale hear there plans until they see a cave that contained missing berries. As the episode goes on more stuff from the citizens of Crescent Forest started disappearing. Cinnamon and Twirl once again run back to Clover and the rest of the citizens only for Clover and Professor Hoot to say that they are both lying. Near the end of the episode Kale notices a moving box covered in sheets that is later revealed to be his baby brothers. His brothers then reveal that there actually is a wolf inside the box. The wolf explains to the citizens that he got injured by a falling tree and Kale's brothers decided to help him recover by taking various things to help him heal including food and a temporary shelter.

  • Canon Foreigner: The Wolf from episode 12 is exclusive to the anime.

  • Did I Just Say That Out Loud?: This is how Cinnamon and Twirl reacts to Clover and Kale after they both accidentally revealed they second plan to prank the bunnies.

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3071: Oct 28th 2016 at 10:32:02 PM

[up]

  • Episode 12 of the anime titled "Big-Time Thief" involves -> Episode 12 of the anime, "Big-Time Thief", involves
  • However after they -> However, after they
  • they notice that Clover notices a leaf that -> Clover notices a leaf that
  • that appears to be a trap they -> that appears to be a trap, they
  • hear there plans -> listen to their plans. (?)
  • As the episode goes on more -> As the episode goes on, more
  • started disappearing. -> starts disappearing. (as per How to Write an Example - Write in Present Tense.)
  • the rest of the citizens only -> the rest of the citizens, only

  • This is how Cinnamon and Twirl reacts -> Cinnamon and Twirl react with surprise (to avoid Word Cruft)
  • after they both accidentally revealed they -> after they both accidentally reveal their (as per How to Write an Example - Write in Present Tense.)

With the above changes, added.

edited 28th Oct '16 10:32:49 PM by Arivne

brb1006 Since: Aug, 2012
#3072: Oct 31st 2016 at 5:19:03 PM

Sweet Seal: For the Sesame Street entry.

  • There is one song called "Swim Like Sea Lions" that feature children swimming along with footage of sea lions swimming.

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
cricri3007 Since: Jul, 2014
#3073: Nov 1st 2016 at 1:50:22 AM

Just discovered this forum. I'll be sure to check it often.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3074: Nov 1st 2016 at 2:24:45 AM

[up][up]

  • that feature children swimming along with footage of sea lions swimming.

that features footage of children swimming along with sea lions.

Added.

edited 1st Nov '16 2:25:24 AM by Arivne

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#3075: Nov 1st 2016 at 8:35:22 AM

Hello. I'm having an issue. I want to create a page for a webcomic I follow: My Best Friend Marneao. However, I need to remember what was the forum for tropes i'm not sure about. This one is for engish, yeah, what is the one for tropes and the like?

Anyway, here is a basic summary for the comic, the best I could make anyway.

"Life was pretty lonely for Jacob, a nerdy guy who wanted to have a friend to hang out, see his favorite shows and youtube channels, you know, the usual stuff.

So he decided to sell his soul to find the perfect friend!

And not just any friend: the son of Lucifer himself, Marnaeo.

Jacob and Marnaeo becomes the best of friends in a flash, hanging out and having the best days ever !... except Hell want his son back.

A weekly webcomic created by Sea Snail Studios, hosted on Webtoons.

Tropes:

  • The Devil Is a Loser: Lucifer may be king of Hell, but he is constantly abused by his superior, the Angel Baraquel. Poor devil had it rough.
  • Parents as People: Lucifer is shown as a good parent to Marnaeo, but he has to work and constantly takes crap from his superior, Baraquel.
  • I Just Want to Have Friends: Marnaeo was a lonely kid in Hell, with no one to play with. He was fully glad to know of a kid with similar taste to him in the form of Jacob. He then gains more friends in the human world.
  • Holographic Disguise: Similar to Nightcrawler, Marnaeo can hide his true form with a human equivalent. So do other demons, bringing him trouble.
  • Precision F-Strike: Baraquel constantly does this, especially when he is in a bad mood.
  • Reused Character Design: Some of the demons designs were previously used in Sea Snail Studios other work, Salvatore. According to El Autor in his twitter, they are actors, similar to Tezuka famous star system
  • Establishing Character Moment: Baraquel is introduced in chapter 4 in a bad mood, insulting the living crap out of Lucifer and telling him to solve the fact his kid is on Earth, even if he has to kill him. Lucifer then ask if God would kill his own son.
    Baraquel: Yes
    Lucifer:That was a rethorical question.
    Baraquel: No, it wasn't.

edited 1st Nov '16 9:49:14 AM by Tomodachi

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