YMMV / Two Best Friends Play

  • Accidental Innuendo: In the Jojos Bizarre Adventure Eyes Of Heaven playthrough, Woolie explains to Pat that Jolyne spells her last name "Cujoh" instead of "Kujo" like her father, because "fuck her daddy." Pat immediately makes a joke about her having an Electra Complex, and her being the only woman with strong enough legs to actually withstand fucking Jotaro.
  • Alas, Poor Scrappy: Even if Matt and Liam dislike/hate Chloe for her attitude and behavior, they're clearly shocked and horrified when they see her in a wheelchair at the end of Part 13.
  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Pat and Woolie theorize during the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven playthrough that the entirety of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure has been a journey of sexual self-discovery for Hirohiko Araki, going from huge Bara Genre types to more waif-is Bishōnen types over time, with a brief dalience towards Les Yay during Stone Ocean. Their reaction to this realization is absolutely priceless.
    Woolie: What we're seeing here is a man discovering himself sexually, that's all.
    Pat: Over the course of thirty years!?
    Both: *descend into a fit of manic laughter*
    • And that isn't even getting into the likes of Grand Wizard Wakka or the countless other times they've Flanderized or mischaracterized other characters in the games they've played.
  • Arc Fatigue: Pat and Woolie's blind Bloodborne playthrough. Specifically whenever Woolie plays as he plays very slow and meticulously. Which is exasperated when he reaches the Forbidden Woods, a large area in its own right.
    • Which in itself hits upon prior examples of their LP's resulting in a Broken Base; Some fans prefer that the Best Friends know the games they're playing through since it results in more entertaining offhand conversations going on, while others prefer that they play the games blind.
  • Author's Saving Throw: Pat and Woolie's apology for mistaking how the DLC from the Jojo game works.
    • Matt and Liam scrapping their Undertale save after killing several monsters, and restarting with a Pacifist Run instead.
    • After the backlash from their Blazblue video, they decide to play Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, another game requested for a long time, as an apology video.
  • Base Breaker:
    • Woolie got early criticism when he first appeared, as some fans considered him unfunny and that the more friends, the more difficult it was to interact.
    • To an extent, Pat. Some fans think his temper tantrums are hilarious and the best part of the show. Some see him as too highly opinionated and that he comes across as a jerk to people that enjoy games he doesn't. And some just don't like the fact that he 'fakes' surprise to events in games he's already beaten and knows what's going to happen (biggest example being Yakuza 4, which he's beaten around 8 times according to him). As of late, his plot predictions and theories, and occasional difficulty in playing games - although this tends to specifically relate to SOMA, which is partly a puzzle-based game despite his disdain for that genre - has also earned the ire of fans - although some have come to defend him on his plot predictions, pointing out that in the instance of Metal Gear this is a series where nearly anything can, will, and has happened.
    • Liam has currently taken over the place as the most disliked friend for a number of reasons: originally when he was introduced, people enjoyed him for his high skill level, hilarious speaking patterns and obviously false egotism, and his ability to inject life into conversations by playing devils advocate sometimes so that all the convo's aren't one-sided, all three of which began in his introduction in Metroid Fusion where he did a pretty bang-up job of playing the game. Recently, however, with the advent of Super Despair Girls, MGSV, AND Star Fox Adventures, the audience has begun to dislike Liam for these same reasons: his high skill level leads to large levels of overconfidence, which in turn causes him to ignore game mechanics in the game he's playing as it's "beneath" him, like the timed attacks in Mario RPG. His false egotism has now been replaced with actual egotism, and many fans have begun to point out his constant narcissism as unfunny and kind of rude. Lastly, his constant devil's advocate playing has gone to levels where it's obvious that he actually hates the thing he's advocating for, but chooses to anyways because he thinks it will lead to a more interesting conversation, when not every conversation needs to be an argument. Overall, Liam's biggest flaws have become front and centre when he's at the helm of the majority of the LP's on the channel, perhaps the biggest of which are in the MGSV LP.
    • Matt has become a Base Breaker. While most people enjoy his jokes and interactions with other friends, some think Matt tends to bring any other members of the Zaibatsu down, ruin a good joke by repeating it several times per minute and running it into the ground, crack jokes during emotional moments that other members of the Zaibatsu are emotionally invested in, and he wouldn't shut up during other situations like that, to say nothing of his DSP-like tendencies to miss and/or ignore obvious things.
    • Pretty much any of the friends, really. It all depends on what game they are playing and what opinion they are pushing. Pat is going to get a lot of hate for overthinking games and throwing guesses around like they are facts, Liam will get hate for the times he skips tutorials on games he doesn't know about, Matt will get shit at times when his references go overboard or his running gags become forced, and Woolie will get hate for whenever he can't adjust to whatever he's playing quickly enough.
  • Broken Base:
    • The fanbase from the Jojo game got really upset for how Pat and Woolie mishandled the DLC but due to their negative impressions on the game's simplistic combos, unbalanced cast, long loading times and poor framerate. Some people say they did wrong by comparing Jojo with a competitive fighting game as it is supposed to be "fanservice" while others say a patch fixed it. Nevertheless, Pat and Woolie have made it clear they are not searching for any fanservice in their apology video which is why they are not recommending the game.
    • For the Pokémon LeafGreen Nuzlocke, Liam's various criticisms of Pokémon X and Y. Such as it being too easy compared to the older games, having a bad plot/characters, etc. Some of his criticisms are fair, while others are solely his own opinion. This leads to many comments accusing him of being a Genwunner, though he has made it clear that he really likes Generation 5, with Pokémon Black and White being one of his favorite Pokemon games.
    • In one of the mailbags, upon receiving yet another sword in the mail, there was a point in the video that was later cut out where they complained about the sword they received. While they later apologized, quite a few fans were quick to call them ungrateful, while others defended them by stating that they had said not to send dangerous items like weapons in the first place.
    • The Shaolin Monks playthrough not having Pat despite his interest in the franchise. As a result, some find it boring. Other points of contention include their general cluelessness on how to progress, the poor audio quality on some of the videos, and the fact that they barely ever use Fatalities(though to be fair on that last one, performing Fatalities on the Xbox version, which they're playing, is very counter intuitive).
    • Some of the first and continued comments on the Super Best Friends Watch Samurai Cop video appear to have invoked this, with some fans declaring that 'they thought the Best Friends were only about video games' and some even declaring that they're going to unsubscribe. Granted, while it is the first time the Zaibatsu have watched a full movie that doesn't really have any association with games, Samurai Cop is perfectly in keeping with their kind of humour, and the Best Friends have a history of putting out videos that are just them shooting the shit or goofing off in videos separate from their longer LP's.
    • The playthrough for Season 2 of Walking Dead has earned more polarizing responses from viewers than those for Season 1's, and most of it concerns Matt and Pat's frequent ribbing of Kenny.
      • There are a number of commenters who believe it to be over the top, especially given how the things that the Friends accuse him of (notably, getting people killed out of reckless self-preservation) are things that Pat himself is guilty of (in particular, getting Alvin killed at the end of Episode 2). It also doesn't help that the guys continue to needle him even in scenes where Kenny is nothing but sincere and caring toward Clementine, such as when Kenny took the blame for finding the radio so Clementine wouldn't be beaten by Carver.
      • Another group agree with the Friends opinion but believe that the ribbing itself is unfunny and forced, thus overshadowing the rest of the game, and that it negatively influences Pat's decisions (in that Pat's decisions are less about doing what he thinks is right, and more about doing what he thinks will piss Kenny off the most).
      • Those in defense of the Friends are quick to point out that, as over the top as the commentary is, Kenny is still pretty unhinged in Season 2, and somewhat deserving of the lampooning.
      • They also continued the disdain for Rebecca as the LP has gone on, despite the game's attempts to make her a little more even-handed, although this could be due to the oft-noted problem with Season 2 where the characters just haven't had enough time to develop - partly due to the massively different, slightly less casual situation the episodes throw the cast into.
      • The Best Friends ended up taking a liking to Jane almost immediately, despite the fact she does very little in Episode 3, and continued to be mostly on her side, largely because she ended up standing in direct contrast to Kenny's point of view.
    • 2014's Shitstorm of Scariness 3 has proven to be divisive too, partly due to the Best Friends decision to play four games for seven days straight and get as far as they can into the games before that deadline, partly due to them picking a game they've already played during the first Shitstorm to kick things off (although it is worth noting that Call of Cthulhu is one of the most demanded full LP's they've ever had thanks to 2012's Shitstorm), and partly due to the lack of Plague of Gripes-made intro for some fans.
    • Some fans are a bit annoyed at how Liam keeps bringing up Paper Mario: Sticker Star in every part of the Super Mario RPG playthrough just to constantly remind Pat and the viewers how much he hates the game. Even fans that agree with Liam wish he'd just let it go already for fear his tirades might become the new "Kenny hate" situation.
      • Another problem that's come up is Liam skipping tutorials and instructions on gameplay (which is odd since all the friends does that but Liam get usually the most hate for it). While the Best Friends have addressed complaints about their lack of min-maxxing and skipping optional side-quests, Liam's failure to work with the action commands, as well as not bothering with exploring the game mechanics, have some frustrated over the stale gameplay and lack of variety.
      • Which is invoked hilariously during their Sonic Adventure LP, as Liam immediately picks up the shovel claws with Knuckles and confidently hops onto the spot he has to dig in... And doesn't know how to dig, despite the game just telling him.
    • The Bloodborne LP has had this since about episode 10. Simply put, a number of fans see Woolie and Pat playing the game completely wrong. The two friends treat Bloodborne more or less like a Souls game- defensive, slow paced and methodical. Unfortunately, due to the fast paced kill-fast-deal-heavy-damage nature of Bloodborne, this strategy has begun to bite them in the ass. Woolie and Pat face such problems as pumping the endurance stat when the soft cap has already been reached, never or very rarely using the gun, spamming powerful but slow attacks all the time leaving them open, never switching out the Hunters Axe for other weapons, ignoring strength entirely so they're incredibly weak, Woolie taking his time and playing extremely cautiously, etc. A number of fans have sworn off the LP entirely due to these factors, while another camp is completely addicted to it. Even Matt and Liam have gotten in on ribbing the LP, and it's obvious that Pat considers it somewhat of a mistake.
      • Made even worse about the fact that it's incredibly obvious that Pat has played ahead, as several trophies don't pop up when they should upon defeating a boss, basically making it like Dark Souls 2 in that Woolie is mostly going in blind while Pat knows much more. As seen by the Ludwig battle, Pat already knew about the boss' second form and used a summon to beat it, either you like it because they are not wasting time dying or you hate it since it's not a blind LP.
    • At the start of the Silent Hill: Shattered Memories playthrough, Matt and Pat said they'd be quiet during cutscenes so Liam, who has never played the game before, can hear all of the dialogue. Both of them gave up on sticking to this plan very quickly, which has annoyed some fans who really want to hear the dialogue (though subtitles are turned on).
      • Some fans are also annoyed at how Liam is going about playing the game, as they feel he's not taking this playthrough very seriously (not helped that Liam's shown in the past that horror games are not something he's big into due to being scared easily), mostly through doing things like purposely avoiding extra bits of plot via the shadow memories, and doing certain actions like zooming in on stuff like characters faces and crotches over and over, or walking away from characters whom are talking, apparently forgetting that even goofing around in this game CAN result in the story changing in a way the player does not want. Some also feel that him choosing to place all the cards in the first psych test in part 6 as "dead" was another case of "Liam goofing off and not taking this seriously," worrying fans that Liam's not going to get an ending he'll be satisfied with.note .
    • The Woolie/Matt LP of Her Story has proven to be divisive with some fans declaring it to be boring; surprisingly, however, another portion of the fanbase is calling out the negativity as people are downvoting/disliking the videos the instant they go up, and were declaring it boring in the first episode, before the story even had a chance to go anywhere.
    • Woolie has decided to do a solo LP of the Reboot PS1 video game, but the main issue people have is that Woolie himself said the videos aren't going to be posted on any regular schedule due to him finding the game to be such a chore to play through (thanks to bad controls, annoying enemies, and the possibility of the game crashing).
    • The comments on the ECW Anarchy Rulz video seem to focus more on the video's 10 second intro by Gaijin Goomba than on the actual video itself.
    • RAGE has been seen to slowly become more of a Base breaker. A majority enjoyed that he was the Primary focus of Def Jam: Fight for New York and added a fun Character to collection of SBFP. Then it started out as a shift in focus that soon eclipsed that of Zubaz, one of the team's characters. Fans find it frustrating that RAGE is receiving such publicity and is growing much larger than the Baz who's cameos and talk abouts are slowly diminishing to compensate.
      • Not helped by the penultimate Rustlemania 2 episode, which essentially featured the wholesale destruction of the Baz, stripping everything from him for RAGE's benefit.
    • The fact that the Best Friends didn't start playing Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain immediately upon release became a sore point for some fans, who complained that the playthrough of Until Dawn was taking too long because they'd seen other playthroughs completed in the time Matt and Pat had uploaded four half-hour videos, and that Until Dawn was an old game. Even though the Best Friends had been running four LP's at once in addition to the last days of Rustlemania coming out, most videos feature Matt meaning his time is divided between games, and the fact that Until Dawn has barely been out a couple of weeks at the time of writing.
      • The playthrough in itself has become this, with detractors accusing Liam of playing at a pace that is somehow even more glacial than the Bloodborne LP, purposefully gimping himself in terms of equipment because he doesn't want to overspend GMP (despite the fact that stockpiling GMP is trivially easy), missing obvious tactical edges and instead just rushing into combat, and constantly misinterpreting or even outright making up the game's story while acting insufferably smug and self-righteous whenever the others and/or the viewers try to correct him.
      • Oddly, others are accusing him of going so fast that he's making it quasi "speed run" and playing the game in his signature gun jumping style instead of as a stealth game. Go figure.
    • Just a look their Danganronpa UDG videos dislike bar reveal another broken base. The plot is impossible to understand unless you played the previous games making very hard for the audience to keep up, but instead of explaining the plot, Liam and Woolie keep talking over the cutscenes, skipping the conversations and ranting about how much the dub sucks. The dislikes increased when they changed the voice acting to japanese without asking the watchers, which is completely pointless since they still skip everything and talk over cutscenes. Many fans felt insulted by this lack of consideration, and despite all that, the friends say that people keep disliking it just because it's not Until Dawn nor Metal Gear. Even after ending the Until Dawn LP, the Danganronpa videos keep getting dislikes so, are they just haters or they really dont like the LP?
      • Even the people who enjoyed the LP got divided when Woolie started complaining. Some agree with him and think the game IS kinda boring until the end, and the infamous "molestation minigame" was distasteful and creepy. While others started hating him, because he is ruining the LP and trying to blame the game's quality for the dislikes.
    • Any instance in which one of the Best Friends tries to predict a story beat, or what will happen based on the information they have at that point in the game will promptly get torn apart by comments from the fans, even though in most instances the fans commenting know what is going to happen because they've watched other LP's and are only privy to their knowledge of the game because of that, and most of the guesses (typically from Pat) are not really that far out of left field. It's also not like the Best Friends are the first players to try and predict where a story is going, typically making the comments some particularly Jerk Ass flavoured Hypocritical Humour.
    • Fans were first glad to hear that an LP of Undertale would be happening, but then come the first episode and fans of the game were quick to point out that Matt failed to properly grasp one of the game's most important mechanics, and very quickly had locked the playthrough into one that will end up with results fans were sure Matt would not like. Matt responded by saying the LP will be restarted on a fresh save by part 3 in order to play the game in a way that Undertale fans will find more enjoyable.
      • Which only further divided fans who wanted a purely blind run and are upset over what they feel is a "spoiled run", and fans defending the reset by saying that it was announced to be happening after episode 2, since the very beginning of the LP.
    • SOMA is an interesting example. At first, everyone was head over heels over it due to it being a genuine horror game and the hilarity of watching Pat alternate between his now-legendary inability to solve puzzles and being scared out of his mind. However, as the LP went on, more and more complaints began to arise, claiming that Pat's aversion to puzzles went from hilarious to soul-crushingly painful when he spent literally the entirety of part 5 and half of part 6 struggling to solve one of the game's easiest puzzles, and coming to conclusions about the game's plot that range from silly to downright nonsensical. The latter is not helped by the fact that Pat is constantly taking over dialogue that outright explains the exact stuff he doesn't understand. Then again, the commentary is what defines the Best Friends, so some believe this last one to be an odd complaint.
      • Not nonsensical, just incorrect. The issue might be that Pat has a tendency to constantly make guesses about where the plot will go, but things like "They're gonna betray us!" and "It's all just a Matrix dream!" are perfectly plausible considering the genre and themes in the game.
    • After so much waiting and asking, the best friends finally play Blazblue on Friday Night Fisticuffs! ... Except they didn't. They pick the PC version just to spite people, play story mode but edit out the fighting, and don't play versus mode at all. Some people laughed along and let it go while others, unsurprisingly, are either mad at them for "ruining christmas" with such a stupid joke or sad and wish they didn't even bother playing it at all. Matt later apologized for the video on his Twitter, saying that, while it seemed like a funny idea at the time of recording, the video was poorly timed and poorly executed. However, this did nothing to quell backlash, and the video even caused some people to swear off the channel forever.
    • The playthrough of Deus Ex: Human Revolution began earning some ire early on as the comments started picking apart Pat's ability to shoot, despite Pat actively having not played the game in a few years and advising he went for pure stealth when he had; there have also been complaints about his approach to hacking and that he doesn't seem to know how it works... Which is entirely explained by the reasoning above. Others still are divided about the main Best Friends playing a game they're enjoying rather than something 'shitty'.
    • The response to the Pat and Woolie led Minecraft Story Mode LP has been mixed as well for reasons such as complaining about Minecraft in of itself, and complaining about the "Telltale formula." In the case of the former, people who hate Minecraft (or more specifically, people who hate fans of Minecraft) think the LP is a good way to get a sense of validation on their dislike of the game, while fans of Minecraft feel Pat and Woolie are just being overly critical about a game that Pat admits he never got into simply because he doesn't like games where the goal is to "do whatever." In the case of the latter, detractors of Telltale agree with Pat and Woolie that Telltale's formula is getting stale, while fans of the company believe the company is still really strong with their writing and story driven games, and that Pat and Woolie are just becoming overly cynical because of maybe one or two missteps in the company's library. Woolie even apologizes for the LP as early as the second part as he know there are people out there who absolutely love Minecraft and Telltale, but Pat says that they're doing the LP anyway "because [they're] asshole."
    • Pat grinding offscreen in Dark Souls 3 caused this. At one side, it's not very funny to watch an overleveled player take down bosses with ease, on the other, the LP isn't slow as Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne were. This worsened by part 12 of the LP as Pat had clearly been doing so much off screen grinding and questing that opinions further divided on the LP, resulting in probably one of the more disliked videos on the channel since the Blazblue video. Some have said the offscreen grinding is "ruining the LP" as it looks like Pat will be too overpowered for most bosses, while others have said the complainers need to "stop bitching" and just "enjoy the fact the LP probably won't drag on as long as Dark Souls II and Bloodborne did." By part 21 Pat reaches level 100, something you're only supposed to achieve by new game plus. Unsurprisingly, some fans hate him even more for doing it "out of spite" while others say Pat should play how he wants and "to be fair", he still has a hard time fighting despite the overleveling. To summarize, the whole comment section boils down to "Pat ruined everything!" and "Stop being salty!" comments.
      • Pat is constantly making lore mistakes, some are fair misconceptions while other are absurd leaps of logic. Depending on who you ask, these mistakes are either hilarious, painfully dumb, or Pat is faking stupidity for laughs.
      • The whole "Blind LP" thing didn't hold at all, since Pat got so much external info and Woolie used a walkthrough to get the ending they want. Either you're OK with it because it's the internet so Pat cannot possibly not get spoiled, while others aren't so forgiving and blame Pat for actually checking the wikia, talking to other players, watching videos, etc and yet he fakes blindness during the game. A rather bad case is when Pat already had a fire rapier and a mace prepared for certain enemies, and another case where he pulled the torch to remove leeches before fighting the enemy, and after he fights and removes the leeches he acts like he discovered it by himself.
      • Things got worse for Pat come Part 25 where his inability to properly figure out how the Storm Ruler works until it was too late lead to Siegward dying during the Yhorm fight. The comments for the video quickly became full of people telling Pat how much he screwed up, and it also amassed a decent amount of dislikes in only a few short hours. On the other hand, some people have said it wasn't all bad since Pat technically finished that questline.
  • Crosses the Line Twice: In the Season 2 playthrough of The Walking Dead, Pat jokes about having Clementine punching a pregnant woman so hard in the stomach that the baby flies out, which he will use to distract nearby zombies. Also, taking the joke further, he says the baby will actually be glad to be out of her womb, referring to her as a "bitch".
    • Liam seems to be pushing this for a lot of fans; as detailed above, some are uncomfortable with the sheer amount of exposure he's gotten as of late, but his attitude toward Warren during Episode 5 of Life is Strange seemed to stop being Comedic Sociopathy and outright offputting for a lot of viewers right around the point he declared "I wish we can make Joyce and Frank so suicidal that they'd blow the place up with Warren inside it," particularly as the character he loathes never does anything particularly wrong. While a lot of viewers felt that Warren had previously been a Sitcom Archnemesis for Liam - equivalent to Pat's escapades against Quint - here it turned a little too intense.
    • Happens a lot depending on the material such as Grand Wizard Wakka and Naruto shitting on babies.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse:
    • Liam became this in the Metroid: Fusion playthrough. When he left for four episodes, a good portion of the comments were asking "Where's Liam?", and there was much rejoicing when he returned.
    • Marlow Briggs And The Mask Of Death quickly won Pat, Woolie and Liam over (Matt had tried it the day before, he was already impressed). A God of War clone that runs on Rule of Cool. Almost every video afterwards has comments begging for a full play through.
    • It's hard to tell how much Matt and Pat actually enjoy from Walking Dead Season 2. However, there's no denying that the guys really took a liking to Luke, with Pat mentioning how "dreamy" he is. Jane, too, because of her carrying a pragmatism unique to most characters in the season.
      • It's made entirely clear in their wrap-up that they certainly didn't like Season 2 as much as Season 1, and a number of Matt's comments on his Tumblr have outright stated Telltale needs better writing for the next one.
  • Fandom Rivalry:
    • Between them and the Game Grumps. Every so often, you'll find comments comparing the two, or outright accusing TBFP of ripping the Game Grumps off (despite TBFP predating Game Grumps by a year). Nevertheless, Jon of Game Grumps has admitted he was inspired by TBFP to make a two person show revolving video games. While Pat has expressed disappointment in Game Grumps, both Matt and Pat are fans of Egoraptor, referencing his Metal Gear Awesome and Girlchan in Paradise!! series on occasion. Regardless, the two groups seem to be on good terms, as evidenced in their 2013 E3 videos. And indeed, the two groups recently collaborated with each other, with the Grumps playing Dinotopia on the Zaibatsu channel, and the Best Friends playing Spider-Man 3 with the Grumps as part of Grumpcade.
    • There's a much more hostile one between them and PewDiePie. Which could be said to be instigated by Matt, as whenever he addresses the fandom, he likes to think of them as "better than PewDiePie fans".
    • There is also a certain rivalry with The Spoony Experiment with Matt commenting on an early LP there was not much interesting material on his website. During the Killer is Dead playthrough Matt commented that the only content from Spoony he likes is his early stuff from before Spoony had his infamous Creator Breakdown.
    • They also possibly have something of an issue with Ashly Burch, as suggested in their Colonial Marines video and a more recent podcast discussing Anthony Burch's leaving Gearbox.
      • Although this is possibly subverted/just the Best Friends ribbing other people as in a recent podcast episode, Matt declares Ashly a 'sweetheart' for coming over during a convention specifically to mock Woolie.
  • Faux Symbolism: During the Earth Defense Force 2017 video, while discussing the symbology of the game.
    Pat: So what do the giant alien space ships shitting bugs out represent?
    Matt: Freemasons.
  • Flame Bait: Some of the comments on Matt's solo No More Heroes playthrough have begun to complain about how Matt repeatedly brings up the fact that he helped work on this game as a tester, which is arguably one of the points of the playthrough, that Matt is proud of his time working on the title and has a lot of stories about doing so. That he brings them up with a line about 'when I worked on this' has to be expected. Funny considering that when he brings up similar stories about Deus Ex, nobody bats an eyelash.
    • The Best Friends took a rather unfair set of questions regarding Warhammer 40K as this during episode 150 of the Superbestfriendscast, borderline calling out a fan who asked them a set of a questions, including 'whether they cared' based on a set of off-hand remarks made during their Revengeance playthrough; Pat and Liam in particular took exception to the notion that they are not fans because they only enjoy the setting on a casual basis.
  • Franchise Original Sin: Discussed, regarding the Metroid series. When Matt, Pat, and Woolie watched the cutscenes from Metroid: Other M, they took the plot to task for its shortcomings. Then Matt, Woolie, and Liam played Metroid: Fusion, which they were much more positive about. As they played, they were surprised at how many of Other M's plot elements (such as Samus' backstory with Adam) were already present in Fusion, just better executed.
  • Friendly Fandoms: Some fans overlap with Maximillian Christensen's fanbase. If you hear anybody mention a Max on the channel, it's him. Taken up to 11, considering that the Best Friends are fans of him, have had him on the Podcast, got the Yo Videogames crew to do Rustlemania intros, and even did a proper crossover when Matt and Woolie flew out to California to hang with Max and the doods.
  • Fridge Brilliance: Why does Matt have a habit (albeit not pronounced) of getting trapped on things or running into glitches? He used to work in QA, it was his job to find glitches.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Invoked hard with their Rustlemania-based look at the Hulk Hogan's Main Event Kinect title, which featured Matt loudly declaring "MATT HATES BLACK PEOPLE!"; Fast-forward two years, and the Hulkster has now been cast into the spotlight following a racist rant involving his daughter.
    • In part 10 of their Silent Hill 2 playthrough, it's mentioned that Konami won't allow complete creative and financial freedom to anyone except Hideo Kojima, so the pair have faith in Silent Hills...
    • The constant jabs at Paul Walker in the Fast and Furious Showdown video quickly became awkward when Walker died in a car crash only months after the video was made.
    • A Running Gag during Rustlemania is to just assume every single legacy wrestler is "dead" simply just out of ignorance for not knowing what they've been doing post-wrestling career. A small few wrestlers that they joked about "being dead" (such as the Ultimate Warrior) have since died in the years following those videos.
  • Good Bad Bugs: Possibly due to their experience as quality assurance testers, the Friends just love running into any kind of bug, error or crash. On occasion, such as with their Deus Ex: Human Revolution playthrough, they also recall memories of amusing bugs they ran into during their QA days.
  • Growing the Beard: They seemed to grow the beard when Woolie and Liam became permanent members of the group.
    • Or arguably when their full LP's and channel started to gain prominence over their Machinima episodes. The latter are still funnier because of the condensed time and the admittedly scripted jokes, but the team arguably grew the beard when their LP's, videos and podcasts started to become interconnected with jokes crossing over from each format.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • During the Deadly Preminition play through, Pat comments that what Forrest just said is "rape culture! Does Kaysen support rape culture?!" in a very offended tone. At the end of the game, the actions of Forrest Kaysen make that statement and the offence taken seem rather prophetic. Similarly, Pat notes during The Last of Us play through that Joel's insistence that they are "survivors", rather than "shitty people", is typically said in movies by REALLY shitty people. Later on in the game, we find out Joel has "been on both sides".
    • While playing Prison Break Matt was afraid of going to jail and said he needed to learn about prison from the game. Few years later, the Two Best Friends Play Facebook implied Matt, Pat and Woolie were almost arrested with the Aliens: Colonial Marines showing really suspicious footage of the best friends. It later turns out that they were stopped by police when a person saw them sneaking around at night with (toy) guns, but nothing bad came of it.
    • In their podcast for January 12th of 2016, the Best Friends lament the recent death of David Bowie and the earlier passing of Motorhead's Lemmy, citing that these things come in threes; two days later, it was unfortunately announced that Alan Rickman passed away.
    • During their look at Street Fighter X Mega Man, the group discussed how half-hearted it was that Capcom's only release to celebrate Mega Man's anniversary was to officiate a fan-game, and debate on if they should be demanding more content or just be satisfied with what little effort Capcom did put into the game. Flash forward to 2016, when Mighty No. 9 attempted to please Mega Man fans and was met with extreme bile. As with the Best friends and the earlier game, this was justified with "It's better than nothing."
  • He Panned It, Now He Sucks: To say that a lot of JoJo fans changed their opinion on Pat after his opinions in the All Star Battle review is...an understatement.
    • Fans unsure of how serious Pat can be at times don't really care much for him liking to joke about some of Nintendo's recent financial troubles, with some feeling that the fact Pat didn't grow up playing Nintendo consoles makes him a bit biased against the company in general. Some even find it to be a bit disrespectful he still continues to make the jokes in spite of the passing of former Nintendo president Satoru Iwata and the fact Iwata cutting his own pay in half helped the company regain profitability in 2015.
    • Gundam fans were not happy when Woolie revealed he dismissed Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans after only two episodes because he felt it was becoming just another Gundam SEED and criticizing the show for being "kiddy". Fans of the former agree that it's one of the darker settings Gundam has had, especially with a certain scene in the third episode.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • The Resident Evil 4 video has a moment where Leon is attacked by a snake, prompting Pat to comment "That's a Bad Ass snake, gonna bite your dick." Fast forward to the Man vs. Wild: The Game video, where that is exactly what every snake in the game does.
    • When playing Soul Calibur V, they comment how Cervantes looks a lot like Leon. One of Leon's alternate costumes in Resident Evil 6 is a pirate costume.
    • In The Walking Dead Part 2 Pat says "And maybe you killed a Senator!" Matt adds "It was the one-armed man! Now moving to the 14th part from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance...
    • In the first part of their Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance Let's Play, they joke that they'll be going to space in the game. It does actually happen, albeit simply using a shuttle to get halfway around the world in a very short time period.
    • In their playthrough of F.E.A.R. 2 during the Shitstorm of Scariness, they make a comment about how the characters in the game's intro resemble the cast of the movie Alien and Matt makes a joke saying something along the lines of "wait until Aliens: Colonial Marines turns out to be not so great." Fast forward months later and said game is subject to multiple poor review scores and and considered one of the biggest gaming disappointments of early 2013.
    • Matt saying that Raiden was "the true face of the Playstation" in the PSABR episode becomes a lot more ironic after Raiden has been confirmed to be playable in the Xbox One version of Ground Zeroes.
    • In LEGO Marvel Super Heroes, Matt jokes that Captain America should not need a parachute to sky-dive. Guess what Cap does within the first five minutes of Captain America: The Winter Soldier...
    • In the Silent Hill 3 video, Matt and Pat discuss what would happen if Hideo Kojima made Silent Hill. A new Silent Hill game has been announced, and it's being made by Hideo Kojima. Or at least, it was.
    • According to Pat, when Liam realized they got the Bad Ending in Resident Evil: Revelations 2, his response was "What kind of idiot gets the Bad Ending?" Either Liam is unaware of how the Good ending is notoriously counter intuitive, or he was trolling/rubbing Pat's failure in his face.
    • In the first part of the playthrough of Predator: Concrete Jungle, Woolie ponders "Why does Freddy Krueger make it into Mortal Kombat and not a Predator?" The very next MK game after that playthrough, Mortal Kombat X, has a Predator as DLC.
    • SBFC 013: Pat claims Masashi Kishimoto will die before he finishes Naruto. This episode came out in June of 2014. Naruto wrapped up about a year later (at least, manga-wise, as the anime is still ongoing).
    • Late in the playthrough of Beyond: Two Souls, Jodie is sent to the ocean floor in a diving suit to stumble around in dark, eerie waters. A short conversation springs up between the friends about how cool a horror game based almost entirely around that mechanic would be. Two years later...
    • In the same game, they mention how exciting it would be to have Wendigos as a spiritual enemy to combat. They would eventually play a game that featured such a foe as the main adversary.
    • The preview for Friendcast 119 has Matt's figure of Guts from Berserk cry out "JUST GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING BOAT ALREADY!!!", in reference to the manga's Arc Fatigue and Schedule Slip at getting to Elfheim. When the video was posted, it had been nearly eight years since they got on the boat, but then they got off two weeks later.
  • Ho Yay:
    • Apparently Woolie and Liam call each other Big Papa and Saucy Liam respectively. Matt and Pat even joke that if Liam and Woolie were ever both asleep on the couch together, Pat could take a picture of the two and call it legally binding. Matt makes some Ho Yay comments, but it's generally played for laughs.
    • Has increased significantly in more recent times. Still played for laughs and done so rather effectively.
    • Pat's called Luke "dreamy" and "very attractive" in their Walking Dead: Season 2 playthrough.
    • And then we have the episode of Guacamelee! where Woolie dresses Juan as himself and makes Liam play as his waifu.
    • The cover image used for "Best Friend Play Sword of the Berserk was a fanart image Matt drew of Guts and Casca kissing one another...with their heads replaced by those of Matt and Liam.
    • The opening to Terminator Week Part #2 has to be seen to be believed.
    • In their Super Mario 3D World episode, Pat complains that Matt stole his cherry.
  • Just Here for Godzilla:
    • Some fans much prefer to watch their other videos (such as their full length LPs) on their secondary channel, rather than the main episodes on the Machinima channel.
    • Also, Pat. Some fans find him more entertaining than Woolie and Liam due to his angry tantrums and expected to see him in a lot of bad games.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Reptile is in this page. You can't see him though. You know why? 'CAUSE HE'S FUCKIN' INVISIBLE!
    • AMERICA! note .
    • "See ya later, fuckers!"
    • "Hey guys, remember when Matt threw that axe?" note 
    • "[subject] is the Origami Killer!"note 
    • "Kenpachi Ramasama" as the name of the protagonist from their Persona 4 playthrough.
    • "Nobody fucks with us!" Matt's catchphrase from The Walking Dead.
    • "Cut your shit!" Pat's catchphrase from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.
    • Any insult towards Woolie like "Woolie sucks" or "Woolie is a horrible person!" It became very popular thanks to the E3 videos.
    • WHEN'S MAHVEL?! with the spin off WHEN'S MARLOW?
    • With Deadly Premonition we have "DP" used in multiple sentences like "Time for some DP action" due to its unintentional sexual implications.
    • "X is a failure of game design," which follows on from David Cage's recent statement during promotional work for Beyond: Two Souls that 'game overs are a failure of the game design'. This has since spread from the gang's Indigo Prophecy playthrough into their other videos.
    • ALL of Pat's verbal tics/catchphrases from their Dark Souls 2 LP.
    • The nebulous Woolie hole.
    • "How long can you move in the frozen time?"
    • As of their playthrough of Final Fantasy X, saying "Bleetzbol", an accented version of the game's sport of "Blitzball".
  • Most Wonderful Sound:
    • Pat's laughter. Case in point.
    • Or Matt's songs.
    • Woolie speaking in a Jamaican accent.
    • Pat's Tour Guide Nixon voice, and the Robo Speak Matt slips into while mocking characters with bad voice acting or writing.
    • Pat's scared laughter is just as great. Also are his high pitched screams when he's scared.
  • Narm: Woolie and Pat both agree that the sudden usage of a heavy metal song during the credits of Tormentum Dark Sorrow is something of a mood killer, though they both love the entire rest of the game for using art that looks like it'd be perfect as metal album covers.
  • Never Live It Down:
    • One time Woolie turned down a potential threesome so he could go pick up Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Matt and Pat never let it go. They went as far as to make their own video to mock Woolie.
    • Additionally, Woolie losing in the first round at EVO to Daigo gets brought up fairly frequently as well.
    • Pat (and the rest of the fandom) enjoys bringing up the time Matt accidentally threw the best weapon in Silent Hill: Downpour away (i.e., into a bottomless pit).
    • Several of the Shitstorm of Scariness videos has Matt still berating Pat for his timidness during the Slender Man video. Pat fully admits this and seemingly takes it in stride.
    • Pat worries this will be the case when he mentions in the second part of their Mortal Kombat 9 viewing that Liu Kang and Kitana will eventually have a "really hot, cool baby". Cue Matt and Woolie making pedophile jokes and Pat lamenting that "People will make pictures! You can't do this to me!"
    • A worry that is made Hilarious in Hindsight when one remembers that the Heavy Rain playthrough already featured Pat doing this, as he had earlier commented that Leonardo DiCaprio and Marion Cotillard would have "hot" kids, in contrast with Matt's thoughts that they would be "divine".
    • Ever since their blind playthrough of Last of Us, Pat has a hard time living down how this playthrough was less than ideal.
    • Pat having a My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic desktop wallpaper in the Amnesia episode lead many fans to believe that Pat is a brony (the fact they hired 2 Snacks, who is a brony, to be one of their main animators after seeing his MLP themed "Two Best Sisters Play" parody only added fuel to the fire). Pat later clarified it was only a joke and he's not really a fan of the show, saying he just found it funny to imagine the "angry redhead" as a fan of something colorful and happy looking. Even so, fans and the rest of the zaibatsu still like to sometimes joke about this to Pat, with at least one mailbag video involving Pat opening a package containing MLP related items inside, and Pat saying "you make one joke in a video nearly three years ago and you never hear the end of it..."
    • Pat's gotten a lot of this from his and Woolie's playthrough of ''Dark Souls II":
    • Any LP that feels like it's dragging on too long or feels like the Zaibatsu don't know what they're doing has been called "the New Nuzlocke."
  • Nightmare Fuel: Now has its own page.
  • Nightmare Retardant: Pat's reaction to seeing Slender Man clipping into a wall.
  • "Not Making This Up" Disclaimer:
    • Woolie's comment that a character from Sailor Moon had sexual intercourse with an unicorn bothered a fan as noted by Matt in "Two Best Friends Play Heavy Rain Part 17." Although Matt stated it was actually just a kiss, Pat defended Woolie's statement as it happened offscreen.
    • Matt mentions several silly and/or ridiculous Spider-Man comic book stories with Pat. The episode then provides a caption referring to the issues the crazy story appeared in.
  • Noodle Incident:
    • Whatever happened between the pair to provoke their rather huge argument on their Facebook page during June 9th. It seems to have evolved out of the two mocking each other over Animal Crossing, but with Matt and Pat, who can tell? It hasn't been referred to since, either, particularly after the two resolved their differences after and joked about it later.
    • There have been multiple hints at Liam being under house arrest. Exactly why is anyone's guess.
  • O.O.C. Is Serious Business: Pat is a lot more sedate in his work with Did You Know Gaming and his list of Top 10 Games for 2012. Common reactions in the comments section include shock and fear. Rarer reactions include confused arousal.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap:
    • Whether Ellie of The Last of Us was The Scrappy to begin with is debatable, given the Best Friends tend to run with a joke once it's gotten going, but Sunny, so loathed in MGS4 by the Friends was suddenly rescued and made awesome by a scene less than five minutes long in Revengeance.
    • David Madsen from Life Is Strange may be heading towards this. Matt and Liam obviously dislike him in episode one, but when he actually apologizes in episode two and admits that he was wrong, just upset, they give him credit. They still seem iffy on him regarding his treatment of Kate, but if anything, they're treading carefully. By episode 5 they don't hate him but they can't take him seriously anymore after being defeated 3 or 4 times by an art teacher.
    • Chloe from the same game seemed to reach this around the midpoint of Episode Three, after actively confessing that she's aware a lot of her problems are of her own making, but refuses to acknowledge it, and it was essentially confirmed that she was rescued in Episode Four, where she actively apologises for her dickishness in prior episodes; both Matt and Liam had much less negative things to say following that.
  • The Problem with Licensed Games:
    • The entire SNES video demonstrates this.
    • Inverted: In both the Pacific Rim-related videos, Matt says the Real Steel licensed game was a surprisingly good boxing game, and the Best Friends seemed to enjoy the Pacific Rim licensed game as well.
  • The Scrappy:
    • Matt expresses his hate towards multiple video game characters such as Ethan Mars from Heavy Rain, Ben and Duck from The Walking Dead, Sunny from Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, and George from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. Pat is not so expressive about his opinions but in one occasion during the PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale he joined Matt in making fun of Kratos from God of War.
    • Pat has also expressed his dislike towards Ashley from Mass Effect.
    • Speaking of Walking Dead, the guys weren't the biggest fans of Kenny, either.
    • While playing The Last of Us, Matt and Pat constantly flip-flop between calling Ellie garbage (as in, they actually nickname her Garbage) and admitting that they're being too hard on her.
    • Woolie wished that Sylvia was the final boss of No More Heroes 2.
    Woolie: I was holding a chalice of empathy; and watch me pour it into the toilet! I stand angrily and flushing, for Sylvia is GARBAGE!
    • Pat's hatred towards Ryan from Beyond: Two Souls is worth noting to say the least considering how he spends most of the game trying to make the protagonist not be attracted to him. Even Matt was suprised in the final part when Pat still could not tolerate Ryan. Pat chose the "Beyond Ending" in order to "troll" Ryan.
    • Pat's "discussion" over Ken being in Ultimax is literally "fuck Ken". Liam tries to defend him, but to no avail. To put it into perspective, he's perfectly willing to hurt Koromaru, one of his favorite characters, just to get at Ken, and sincerely hopes that Ken dies during the course of the game.
    • Chico from the Metal Gear Solid series, is this for both Matt and Pat. Though, they acknowledge that people see him as Rescued from the Scrappy Heap via the hidden tapes.
    • Whenever X-Men or Marvel in general is brought up, expect many jokes to be made at Cyclops' expense.
    • Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth is this to Pat, due to his distaste for Etrian Odyssey style mechanics
    • Chloe from Life Is Strange was originally just on Matt's scrappy list for her using ridiculous slang. She made it on Liam's list as well when she showed her selfish attitude. Although in Episode 4 she apologized for her dickish behavior and her alternate self hates the word "hella", so Liam and Matt don't hate on her that much anymore.
      • Warren seemed to take this spot for Liam almost immediately, who is generally positive toward most members of the cast - particularly Kate - and neutral at best to others, and naturally Matt is only happy to make that hate so much worse. It's reached the point where in Podcast 117, the other Best Friends are actively laughing at Liam for his assertions that Warren is basically a textbook abusive male on par with Jefferson and Nathan, based on little more than his own dislike and an Easter egg/hidden bit that Liam confesses he hasn't even seen in-game.
    • Averted with Moira Burton of Resident Evil: Revelations 2, who distinctly leans toward appearing like one of the characters that could aggravate the Best Friends, but manages to avoid it. It possibly helps that she's the daughter of 'awesome dude-man' Barry Burton.
    • Immediately after beginning NBA2k16 Livin Da Dream, Pat, Liam AND Woolie all singled out Poisonous Friend Vic Van Lier as a "piece of shit" in his first appearance, and only came to hate him more as the play through continued, often expressing that someone should murder him, rejoicing when he dies in a car accident, and mocking his "ghost speech" for both its Narm and for actively making him less sympathetic.
  • Scrappy Mechanic: Pat confessed in the animated shorts he dislikes escort missions.
  • So Bad, It's Good:
    • Some fans apparently couldn't tell whether Matt and Pat liked Deadly Premonition or not, so Pat addressed the point in a video: in short, the game is full of "stupid bullshit", but it's enormously entertaining bullshit. He compares playing the game to being on the receiving end of a borderline-abusive relationship.
    • Pat still doesn't know whether he enjoys playing Deadly Premontion or The Last of Us (which is So Cool, It's Awesome) more.
    • Whenever they discuss recording material for the Last of Us, they both agree they'd rather be playing DP.
  • Spoiled by the Format: Lampshaded near the end of the Def Jam Fight For NY Super Best Friends Brawl.
  • Tear Jerker: Now has its own page.
  • That Damn Ken: Seen in the Street Fighter III video:
    Pat: What is with the Ken brigade?
    Matt: What do you mean "what is with it"? It's always BEEN THERE!
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: In spite of many Suda 51 games receiving a full LP on the channel, killer7 only has a single video as part of the Shitstorm of Scariness, and many of the comments on the video agree that it should be a full series.
  • Vocal Dissonance: A lot of viewers were surprised by what Matt looks like when they saw his face for the first time. Matt even addresses this in the "Matt's Bombass Apartment Tour" video.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not Political?:
    • Matt thinks Earth Defense Force 2017 is Japan's commentary on the Iraq War.
    • During their Slender video, Pat muses on whether the Slender Man could be an allegory for the Internal Revenue Service.
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