Old Complete Monster cleanup thread
Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here
Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.
Here is how the process works:
- If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.
- After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".
- Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!
Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:
- To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!
- No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
- Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
- Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
- Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.
- Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").
- If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.
- If a work is already reserved by another user, please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!
- Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.
- Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.
- If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
- For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
- If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.
- Please keep all discussions "in-house".
- What other wikis use for CM equivalents is irrelevant here.
- Please be wary of using other wikis, Fandom or otherwise, as sources of information. They are just as fallible as a site like Wikipedia in regards to accuracy because they can be edited by any user, just as this site can.
- Do not attempt to force a communication with an author in an attempt to gather evidence or settle a debate; besides the fact that this is a YMMV trope and thus author intent has variable weight depending on the circumstance, doing so may cross the line into drama exportation, which is prohibited site-wide.
If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:
What is the work?
This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.
Who is the candidate and what have they done?
This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.
Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?
This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.
Are they bad enough?
A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:
- Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
- The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
- The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)
Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.
Final verdict?
This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.
And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!
Edited by Twiddler on Jan 17th 2024 at 5:42:49 AM
Jogo
Easy ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/thumbs_up_emote.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
to Bliss and I think a for Sven
Gentle Laborer
Trimmed Alastor's entry, kept all the important info.
- Revelation (Hellaverse): Alastor, The Radio Demon, is portrayed as a sadistic and deranged tyrant. Murdering Lucifer and arresting Charlie Morningstar, Alastor turns Hell into an even worse dictatorship where he punishes all crime, regardless of severity. Alastor massacres anyone for even trying to question him, sending prisoners into The Pit Of Fire where their spirits are broken through torture before being thrown into a fire pit to burn to death. Enraged over a minor criticism Moxxie made, Alastor massacres Imp City out of spite. Capturing Moxxie, Blitzo and Stolas, he subjects them to intense torture and orders their execution date to draw out fugitives, torturing Moxxie to force him to stop the revolution against him and proceeding to order all rebels to be executed when Moxxie refuses, even murdering his right-hand man Edrich for conspiring against him. When the prison goes down in flames, Alastor abandons Vox and Valentino to die as he turns into a giant monster to try and kill the resistance in one final attempt to keep his power that he believes he rightfully earns.
Edited by TheMadCr0w on Jan 29th 2024 at 4:06:17 PM
Bliss and sure to Sven too
Not the Eye
Danger Zone duo
Switch ![[tdown]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/thumbs_down_emote.png "[thumb down]"){kind=small}
protagonist
Goku Black
bliss and sven
@mrph :where do you wanna put him in Monster.Marvel Comics?
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
for the Phantom Orb, Miss Bliss and Sven.
Switching to for the Protag.
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Think it was said last time that he should go in the Multiple Works section.
A Child from the Stars
to the Orb, Miss Bliss, and Sven.
to the Protag.
as my final choice on Scroop after watching the back and forth the last couple days.
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Yes to Bliss and Sven.
Yeah, Uranos will go under Multiple Works.
Mrph, please add to the Drafts (and if it's possible, maybe pothole Judgment Day (Marvel Comics) and Eternals (2021)?).
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
RIP Toriyama
Yes to Bliss and Sven!
- The Life and Suffering of Sir Brante: Dorius Otton, the military commander of the province of Magra, is corrupt even by the depthless standards of the Arknian nobility. Before Brante even reaches adulthood, Dorius is a rapist and abuser who first meets the player attempting to reclaim his runaway slave, a young commoner named Sophia. Age only refines Dorius' cruelty; as military commander of Magra, Dorius goes from village to village collecting an exorbitant tax from the commoners, pillaging and razing at his own merriment while brutally putting down any resistance. Should Brante's Justice rating fall too low, Dorius will order a mob of hundreds of disaffected villagers put down by force, leading to a horrible massacre should Brante be unable to or unwilling to stop it. Dorius' endgame for Magra is the "Night of the Serpents," where on behalf of his benefactor Archduke Milanidas, Dorius will purge the province of any political rivals and their innocent families. Dorius also has a tendency to force people—mostly his own men—to participate in lopsided duels to the death, often repeatedly challenging them after their resurrection until they meet their True Death. Reviled not just by the peasantry but by almost all of his own Arknian allies, if convicted both sides will find Dorius Otton equally guilty of unremitting evil.
Captain of USS Bajor
Been mulling this one over for a few days since I finished volume 10
What is the work?
Reign of the Seven Spellblades, a Dark Fantasy Teen Drama Light Novel series by Bokuto Uno that follows six students at an elite Wizarding School full of dark secrets.Who is the candidate and what have they done?
Great-Grandfather Sherwood (No Full Name Given), The Patriarch of the Sherwood mage clan and great-grandfather to protagonist Oliver Horn and his cousins/surrogate siblings Gwyn and Shannon Sherwood.Only present in an extended flashback sequence in volume 10, the first clue we get is the fact that his granddaughter Chloe, Oliver's mother, went no-contact and attended Kimberly Magic Academy under a pseudonym. Initially seeming kindly, he quickly turns out to be a Gruesome Grandparent who rules the family with an iron fist. When Oliver and his father Edgar Groves flee to the family estate in hopes of sanctuary from Chloe's enemies, Sherwood dismisses Edgar as a Glorified Sperm Donor and insists on replaying her Ghost Memory after her ghost settles with Oliver, forcing him to relive her Rasputinian Death.
Afterwards, he pushes Oliver onto the path of revenge, forcing him to undergo years on end of repeated training to the point of death—at his own, thoroughly dominated father's hand, no less—in order to be able to temporarily merge with his mother's soul to gain the strength to defeat her killers—except he doesn't actually care about avenging his granddaughter, only viewing Oliver as a test subject for the soul merge to see how far it can be taken before the subject dies.
All this, however, pales in comparison to when he decides to breed Oliver with Shannon to keep the family's progenitor ancestry in the family: when Oliver understandably refuses, he immediately orders the boy drugged into a hyper-aggressive state with a near-lethal dose of psychoactives, causing him to brutally rape his foster sister; Oliver stops eating and begins Self Harming after coming to, and continues to suffer from PTSD. Only when the pregnancy is confirmed does Sherwood acknowledge Edgar and Oliver as his family, and when it ends in a stillbirth, he jovially promises a repeat performance until Shannon carries an heir to term.
All in all, he proves a controlling sociopath utterly apathetic to the suffering he causes, and dies completely convinced of his own rightness.
ETA: I forgot to mention this earlier, but all this happened to Oliver between the ages of eight (his age when his mother died) and fifteen (admission age to Kimberly). Shannon is four years older.
Are they bad enough?
I'm not going to lie, abusive parents are surprisingly common in this series: mage society tends to place advancing the cause of magic above all other concerns, including child welfare. Even by that standard, though, the elder Sherwood is a cut above the rest: the rape sequence, though mercifully vaguely described, is nonetheless pure Nightmare Fuel, and some of the conspirators in Chloe's murder are presented as Well Intentioned Extremists. In fact, one of them is viewing Oliver's memories as the Framing Device for this flashback and even he is appalled. At best, you can chalk a little bit of his behavior up to family tradition, but practically every named character in the vicinity except his wife is still horrified by his behavior.Final verdict?
I'd say "fuck this guy" but I wouldn't want you to catch anything. Good riddance.Edited by StarSword on Jan 29th 2024 at 7:27:40 AM
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Great-Grandfather Sherwood
Miss Bliss and Sven
Edited by KazuyaProta on Jan 29th 2024 at 4:29:52 AM
Watch me destroying my country
Insert title here
Switch to for Protagonist
Classy, Refined, Unstable
Bliss and Sven, Grandfather
Crow's trimming for the Alastor writeup.
Edited by WetFlannels on Jan 29th 2024 at 9:44:44 AM
Oh, Mr. Kennedy, you entertain me. To show my appreciation, I will help you awaken from your world of clichés.
I've been on the road lately, but since I have the time Grand Theft Auto candidate incoming.
Grand Theft Auto V is an entry of the series' HD timeline released in 2013, following three different protagonists; Franklin Clinton, a young ambitious member of the former Grove Street Families; Michael Townley/De Santa, a notorious former bank robber, who was put into an informal witness protection deal; and Trevor Phillips, Michael's former partner in crime turned ruthless small time drug lord. When Franklin breaks into a "retired" Michael's house, a series of events escalate that gets all three protagonists the crosshairs of a corrupt FIB agent; a corrupt billionaire trying to use them for his own ends, and multiple gang and crime bosses.
However none of this game's main or secondary antagonists count due to falling short of the series' heinous standard. Though Devin Weston — the billionaire I mentioned above — does try to have Michael's family killed, it doesn't hold as much weight since Michael's son and daughter are both young adults. Instead today's candidate is a side quest villain.
There is a side quest for the player to investigate the murder of Leonora Johnson — a young actress whose horrific murder was an unsolved mystery and subject of interest for In-Universe True Crimes discussions. By seeking out pieces of evidence throughout the State of San Andreas, the player will eventually reassemble a buried confession letter by controversial film director, Peter Dreyfuss.
Peter Dreyfuss is an aged film director and one of the nastiest examples of Hollywood's Vinewood's corrupt underbelly. Back in the seventies, Dreyfuss became fixated on young, up and coming actress, Leonora Johnson. In a confession letter to his "friend", David Richards, Dreyfuss makes casual mention of his usual escapades of torturing hitchhikers, sleeping with young girls and mentions how he and Richards paid two prostitutes to stab each other. In his confession, Dreyfuss tries to justify himself for what he did to Leonora, since Richards tried washing his hands to Dreyfuss after finding out.
Dreyfuss considers himself a Mad Artist, and did what he did ostensibly so he could understand suffering — by inflicting it. To that end, Dreyfuss promised Leonora a lead role to lure and abduct her. What follows is Dreyfuss torturing and mutilating Leonora — implicitly for days. According to an autopsy on the True Crimes website, he sawed off her hands and feet, cut her breasts; burned a giant star into her back using a cigar; removed her lips, and cut a piece of her thigh off. He then finished her off by decapitating her, and leaving her body to be found at the dam. The autopsy also mentions he raped her, either during or after all of this. Because the press trampled the crime scene before the police came, any evidence they collected was deemed useless.
Eventually, David Richards finds out what Dreyfuss did and tries to cut things off with him. Dreyfuss writes a confession letter, ostensibly to apologize for "offending" him, and justify himself as an artist, and that what he did to her was for artistic expression. He also belittles Richards that if this is where he draws the line, he's not much of a man. On top of Leonora's murder, Dreyfuss would further torment her family years after the fact, taunting them with anonymous phone calls, and sending them things he collected from her; from Leonora's pocket watch, to her mutilated lips.
Because Richards tried to destroy and bury the letter, the case was unsolved for decades, and Dreyfuss would retire as an eccentric loner in the Hills. However, as the player uncovers the pieces of the letter hidden all over the state, this will unlock a side mission for Franklin. Tracking Dreyfuss to his house, Franklin confronts the old man, who attempts to flee. The player has the choice to let Dreyfuss flee…but considering the mission's gold medal achievement is killing Dreyfuss, and an In-Universe radio broadcast reports his Vigilante Execution either way — with his murder of Leonora posthumously exposed — it seems that killing him is the canonical outcome.
I wouldn’t be bringing him up here if there were. He's an egotistical coward who considers himself a mad artist; his reasonings for doing what he does is morbid curiosity to "understand" pain and suffering for his "art". Think Mark Jefferson but as a film director. Franklin bluntly tells Dreyfuss he did it because he could and repeatedly shoots down his attempts to justify himself.
- Dreyfuss: "Art is suffering! I don't expect a man of your limited education to understand! Without darkness there is no light! Don't you understand anything ? She died so that millions of others could experience truth, through my art! To understand pain, it must be administered as well as felt!"Franklin: "Then I'm about to understand it, real good then!"
Dreyfuss was friends with David Richards, but it's nothing redeeming. Seemingly written as an apology for "offending" him with what he did, his letter is filled with attempts to butter him up and backhanded compliments to David, as well as belittling the man's son as being worthless as a successor; and arguing that if this is where David draws the line, he's less of a man.
- Isn't it better that one family suffers so the world can be free to enjoy, to learn and to be cleansed by my masterpieces ? Don't even bother answering that. The answer is obvious and if you get it wrong, well, then you're less of a man than I thought.
Decades later he curses David's memory for having him write the letter in the first place, and even tries throwing him under the bus.
Now at first, I had second thoughts because Dreyfus sis in a game that also features Trevor Phillips. Even without Trevor, the HD timeline's heavy hitters are Dimitri Rascalov, who starts a drug epidemic that threatens a nation; and Elon-Avon Hurtz, who attempts a nuclear apocalypse. Though ultimately, Dreyfuss makes it on quality, over their quantity.
Now to get Trevor out of the way, the guy is one of the most vicious villain protagonists in the series. On top of his impulsive murders, he helps one of the game's antagonists, Steve Haines torture and innocent man; regularly batters folk and bullies for annoying him; is a small time meth boss; has the option to trade hitchhikers to a murder cult; proceeds to wipe out the cult himself when they turn on him; often jokes about being a cannibal; at the very least sexually humiliated a man he was bunking with.
Even with Trevor, I'd say Dreyfuss also beats him in quality. Unlike the joking implications of Trevor's nastier crimes, what Dreyfus did to Leonora was one of the few explicit/confirmed cases of rape in the whole series; and is especially horrid in that it includes sexual mutilation, and is implied to have occurred for days. Dreyfuss also makes a passing mention of sleeping with young girls, not that it gets that much focus — although Would Hurt a Child almost never happens in this series.
It also blows out the methods of Trevor's murders — and his torture scene — out of the water. In action, Trevor's murders aren’t that different from the usual GTA protagonist; shooting here, beating someone there, etc; with Trevor's torture scene being just Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique played for horror. On Dreyfus' end, tortured, mutilated and raped Leonara, before eventually decapitating her. He further psychologically torments her family for years, sending them her belongings and body parts and such.
All this to say — even with the satirical pot shots at True Crime culture — the murder of Leonora Johnson, and the torment of her family is seen as especially heinous In-Universe.
And while the murder occurred decades before the game proper, and doesn't play any part in the main story, Offscreen Villainy isn’t an issue. There's an In-Universe True Crimes website covering the murder, talking in detail about Leonora's life, the people around her, as well as her autopsy, as well as crime scene photos of Leonora's mutilated remains can be viewed.
On an amusing note, Dreyfuss' voice actor is named "Richard Hughes", which also happens to be the name of the Big Bad of the original Saints Row, one of GTA's most successful copy cats.
Edited by Beast on Jan 29th 2024 at 2:11:08 AM
"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
Jogo
Great-Grandfather Sherwood
I. Think I can say yes to Dreyfuss. I'm actually going through GTA V now. So maybe I'll change my mind, but your argument is convincing.
I'm saying no for Dreyfuss.
My big issue is that his actual crimes are completely off screen and we only get a letter and autopsy report depicting them. For a series as visceral as Grand Theft Auto, that really doesn't cut it for me.
Edited by LoreDeluxe on Jan 29th 2024 at 2:18:51 AM
Think you're tough because you made it through Lord of the Rings? Real men survive The Silmarillion.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Sure to Dreyfuss.
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Classy, Refined, Unstable
No to Dreyfuss based on Lore's points.
Oh, Mr. Kennedy, you entertain me. To show my appreciation, I will help you awaken from your world of clichés.
RIP Toriyama
I think Dreyfuss's crime is given enough detail to take it firmly out of Offscreen Villainy IMO, we get news reports about it, the autopsy, even pictures of the crime scene and Lenora's corpse on the website. Like, you straight up see her horribly mutilated body. So that's enough for me and it's such a viscerally unique for me to say sure to, I think.
Edited by Ravok on Jan 29th 2024 at 2:23:04 AM
Tonight I dine on monkey soup.
@Lore: I also pointed out that we see the crime scene photos along with the autopsy. Something that pushes this out of Offscreen Villainy; not only are we told in detail what happened to her, we also see her remains.
"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
A Girl, Just One of Many Kinds
Yeah honestly I’m good with Dreyfuss barely but it’s definetly enough onscreen evidence for me to be okay with it, especially for a one shot villain that is just a retired movie producer
Keep Fighting. Keep Loving.
to Dreyfuss.
So after proposing last week's Danger Zone One guy, I decided to give the novels a second shot, as I feel there are some candidates in those that I might've overlooked.
What’s the Work
Danger Zone One Vol. 3: The Unhappiest Place on Earth is the third, and so far final, installment in the DZO novels.
It's basically a slightly compressed adaptation of the "Fantasy Funland" arc from the webcomic, this time without all the details or lore from the descriptions. Reena Saffron and her friend Hayley decide to visit the theme park Fantasy Funland while on Reena's day off. But Reena finds her partner Madison Wynter there as well, as she's investigating the disappearance of three other women from the park.
But Reena and Hayley soon find themselves trapped in a dastardly plot involving these two criminals.
Who Are They?
The woman called "Miss Bliss" is just as bad as ever here.
Sven is Bliss’s perverted henchman who is actually worse here than in canon.
What have they done?
Hired by Fantasy Funland owner Dalton Trayer to help secure more funding to his theme park, Bliss starts a human trafficking operation underneath the park, kidnapping women with intent to sell them as sex slaves, with Sven tasked to pick out the right women to knock out and imprison. With three women locked in a bunker for two weeks, Bliss later targets Reena and her friend Hayley, knocking them out in a haunted house to add to her collection.
When Madison starts investigating, Bliss personally knocks her out with her electrical whip to add to the bunker… but not before having some fun with her first. Revealing herself to be a nasty sexual sadist who enjoys hearing beautiful women scream as she harms them, Bliss decides to torture Madison for thrills, even deciding to instead break mind until she becomes her own personal pet.
But while Bliss is busy with Madison, Sven decides he wants some action of his own. Jealous of Bliss getting to have all the fun, Sven heads to the women's cell with intent to rape them all as a way to "test the merchandise out first" and put them through "rigorous examinations" before selling them, even sickly joking that he's "part of the quality assurance department." Even the other three women’s reactions kind of imply he’s done this before. Attempting to rape Reena, while making sure her friend Haley’s the next in line, Reena gets out of this situation by kicking him in the crotch and stealing his nightstick, leaving him trapped in their cell as all the women make their escape.
Back to Bliss after torturing Madison some more, before she could carve her initials into Madison’s stomach and mark her as her new property, Reena sneaks up from behind and whacks her in the head with a nightstick, knocking her out. The two of them are then arrested, the women saved, and Fantasy Funland is shut down.
Redeeming Qualities?
Zero for the both of them.
Heinousness?
So for the novel canon, Bliss easily makes it. Human trafficking, sexual sadism, horrific torture, need I say more? And while her actions here are for the most part one-for-one replicated from the comic (with her operation dealing with standard human trafficking rather than organ trafficking), Bliss is also a recurring character in the comic, with this novel adapting only her debut. It's like when I covered the Phantom Blood game; yes, it's a direct adaptation of the source material, but it only covers a part of Dio's actions across an entire franchise.
Sven though, is an interesting case. Rape is extremely rare in these novels, and Sven's the only known rapist in this canon. While in the comics, Sven was just a generic henchman, here he's made way worse with his attempt to rape the five women under Bliss's captivity for fun, along with working alongside her to sell them. Sven's the kind of guy to literally watch porn during his job, and it's implied from some of the other girls' reactions that this isn't his first time doing this.
Conclusion
Bliss is an easy keep, but I'm curious to see what y'all think about Sven, since he's much worse here than in the comic canon, and doesn't have much in the way of competition.
"No running in the halls!"