Thread created as a spin-off of an Ask The Tropers thread
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There have been some recurring problems when it comes to how to refer to a character due to them being potentially transgender, such as Yamato or Snapdragon, or has other circumstances that make their gender identity/pronouns unclear. While in the past each character has gotten their own dedicated thread, the latest problem when it comes to how to interpreted Bridget has raised an opinion that there should be more of a general thread discussing these topics in case any future problems come up. Preferably we should discuss one character at a time before moving up to the next character.
Queries about references to a character's deadname are also on-topic here.
Spoilers in the thread must be tagged.
As a rule of thumb, using they/them in cases where the character's gender is unclear is acceptable.
If someone disregards consensus that was established here, particularly if a character is clearly trans and someone is trying to deny that, it's something to report on Ask The Tropers rather than here.
Spoilers in this "Resolved characters" folder are unmarked.
- General policy on characters who reincarnate/gain new bodies, and have their gender change when they do so (in specific, Eternals (2021), Doctor Who): When discussing a particular incarnation/body, use the pronouns the work and its characters used for the character in that form. When a character has used different pronouns at different times (e.g. for different incarnations), default to they/them pronouns if discussing the character overall. Discussion begins here.
- A from Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Intentionally not addressed by pronouns, use the name A. Discussion begins here
- Acht/Dedf1sh from Splatoon: They/them. Discussion begins here.
- Apep from Genshin Impact: It/its. Discussion begins here.
- Arval from Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes: They/them. Discussion begins here
- Baron Ashura from Mazinger Z: They/them pronouns for their appearance in Super Robot Wars. Discussion begins here.
- Bedman? from Guilty Gear: It/its. Discussion begins here.
- Blitzcrank from League of Legends: They/them pronouns. Discussion begins here.
- Bridget from Guilty Gear: Confirmed to be a trans woman and uses she/her pronouns. Discussion begins in this discussion page thread, then continues in this Ask the Tropers query followed by the first post of this thread.
- Buzam A. "BC" Calessa from Vandread: She/her. Discussion begins here.
- Candy Caramella from Space Goofs: He/him in the original cartoon, she/her when referring to the version of Candy in the spin-off game Stupid Invaders. Discussion begins here.
- Cheese from Sonic the Hedgehog: He/him when referring to the version in the video games, they/them for the version in the IDW comics. Discussion begins here.
- Cho'gath from League of Legends: Both he/him and it/its are fine, as long as the pronoun used is consistent within a given example. Discussion begins here.
- Claude from Claudine: He/him. Discussion begins here.
- Dragona from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: He/him until more information is given. Discussion begins here.
- Enkidu from Fate Series: They/them. Discussion begins here.
- F.F. from Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure Stone Ocean: They/them pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- FLUDD from Super Mario Sunshine: It/its pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Funtime Foxy from Five Nights at Freddy's: Intentionally Ambiguous Gender; he/she pronouns. Discussion starts here and continues here.
- Gabriela from Como dice el dicho: She/her, use the name Gabriela. Discussion begins here.
- Gala Laxi from Dragalia Lost: They/them when referring to the combined entity of Laxi and Mascula. She/her when referring to just Laxi, he/him when referring to just Mascula. Discussion begins here.
- Gozer from Ghostbusters (1984): They/them. Discussion starts here.
- Gwyndolin from Dark Souls: He/him pronouns. Discussion begins here.
- Hassan of Intoxicated Smoke from Fate/Grand Order: He/him pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Heather Swanson from South Park: "She/her" pronouns (Scare Quotes included). Discussion starts here and continues here.
- Hibari from Stop Hibari Kun: She/her pronouns.
- Juniper from Xenoblade Chronicles 3: They/them pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Kris from Deltarune: They/them pronouns, and is to be treated as nonbinary unless otherwise stated. This decision was made in this thread.
- Lambert from Cult of the Lamb: They/them. Discussion starts here
- Lor from Borderlands: He/him, use the name Lor. Discussion begins here.
- Mangle from Five Nights at Freddy's: Intentionally Ambiguous Gender; he/she pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Mordred from Fate Series: She/her, with an Ambiguous Gender Identity entry. Discussion starts here.
- Morpheus Duvall from Resident Evil: Dead Aim: They/them on the Resident Evil - Umbrella Corporation character page. Discussion begins here.
- Omochao from Sonic the Hedgehog: They/them. Discussion begins here.
- Osana Najimi from Komi Can't Communicate: They/them pronouns. Discussion begins here.
- Pamela Incu from Welcome to Demon School! Iruma-kun: He/him. Discussion begins here.
- Phantom Mangle from Five Nights at Freddy's: Intentionally Ambiguous Gender; he/she pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Prized Isshin Blade from Genshin Impact: He/him. Discussion begins here
- Pokémon in general from Pokémon: Gendered pronouns when discussing a specific individual Pokémon, it/its when discussing a Pokémon species in general. Discussion begins here, is continued here.
- La Pucelle from Magical Girl Raising Project: He/him in civilian form, she/her when transformed into a magical girl. Discussion begins here.
- Snapdragon from High Guardian Spice: They/them pronouns. This decision was made in this thread via crowner.
- Stella Lulu from Magical Girl Raising Project: He/him in civilian form, she/her when transformed into a magical girl. Discussion begins here.
- Sui from Campfire Cooking in Another World with My Absurd Skill: It/its. Discussion begins here.
- Takatsuki from Wandering Son: He/him except for when discussing the end of the manga beneath spoiler tags. In that case, she/her. Discussion begins here
- Terri from Amphibia: They/them. Discussion begins here
- Thailand from Scandinavia and the World: They/them, per what's used on this official FAQ page.
- The Toaster from The Brave Little Toaster: He/him pronouns. This decision was made in this thread.
- Topa from The Orville: she/her outside Recap pages, pronouns at time of episode on Recap. Discussion begins here.
- Vennia from Cafe Enchante: Both he/him and they/them are fine, as long as the pronoun used is consistent within a given example. Discussion begins here.
- The vessels (the Knight, the Hollow Knight, the Broken Vessel, and the other void siblings) from Hollow Knight: It/its. Discussion begins here, is continued here.
- Vivian from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door: She/her pronouns. Due to Adaptational Gender Identity, whether she's transgender or cisgender depends on the localization. Discussion begins here.
- Yamato from One Piece: He/him pronouns. This decision was decided in this thread via crowner.
- Yena from Seton Academy: Join the Pack!: He/him pronouns. Discussion begins here.
Edited by Bisected8 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:16:38 PM
Usually don't post here, but since I'm familiar with RE, I'll add what I know. I was going to bring up the files in-game as a point towards using He/Him as that's how the character is referred to in-game. I'd be careful about leaning on the RE wiki too much as well, since it's also fan written.
ETA: was looking around to see if I could find any WoG for Morpheus but no luck so far.
Paging ~Sung Hwan since they are also familiar with the series.
Edited by Hello83433 on Sep 8th 2022 at 3:39:14 PM
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I'm not familiar with the game. The main issue with what came up in that report was that a new account jumped into changing pronouns en masse on day one, which I and the other mods found suspicious. I told Amonimus (who reported the edits) to bring it up here in case it merits discussion, since it would be preferable to go through this thread instead of changing the character's pronouns unilaterally.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 8th 2022 at 2:41:30 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
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that doesn't carry as much weight to me, because "he/him" is exclusively used pre-transformation, no pronouns are used post-transformation, and in-game materials strongly imply Morpheus identified as a woman at least to themselves.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Hmmmm, yeah, it seems like an interesting case. If they weren't given any explicit pronouns after transforming, then sounds like they/them does work best.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Oh yeah I get it, definitely suspicious. I would've done the same thing bringing it to attention.
As far as I can recall, yeah there's no pronouns used after the transformation and there's no in-game files or mentions of Morpheus in other media (the game was made non-canon) either. I was thinking about going the Recap route (or basically the suggestion Golden City Bird brought up) with He/Him and She/Her for the separate forms, although that might not be feasible since it’s the character page and not a bunch of recap pages.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Like with Snapdragon, using She/Her can be potentially confusing if the character isn't addressed as being female in-universe, and I don't think we should be inconsistent with pronoun usage on character sheets, unless there's some reason everyone would already know the character uses both pronouns (such as being canonically genderfluid).
Also like Snapdragon, I think sticking to the nice neutral They/Them makes the most sense with the info presented.
Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 8th 2022 at 4:01:01 AM
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What are I supposed to make of Osana Najimi? I've seen conflicting reports as to whether they're a cis dude, enby, or trans. Has there been anything official about how they currently see themselves?
the Retromancer
"Preferably we should discuss one character at a time before moving up to the next character."
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Alright, I'll wait. As for Morpheus, using neutral pronouns is probably the best option right now.
Edited by badtothebaritone on Sep 8th 2022 at 3:15:27 AM
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Is Morpheus's transformation meant to be seen as an intentional result, or an Emergency Transformation that just happens to turn Morpheus into a female monster? I can understand if Morpheus wanted a new body and the virus transformation is what they wanted, just wanted to check.
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the Retromancer
Their Characters/ page lists both Emergency Transformation and Karmic Transformation.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
the virus supposedly transforms people according to their innermost desires, from what i read.
also, it's apparently called the TG Virus, which is an amusing coincidence at least.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
IDK, what does Thanksgiving have to do with this discussion?
Yeah, if that's actually how it works then it does seem cut and dry that at the very least Morpheus doesn't identify as a man.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
That's even more incentive to use they/them until we get confirmation that Morpheus identifies as a woman.
i am advocating for they/them, sorry if that wasn't clear. the post where i said that got bottompaged.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I'm also leaning toward they/them.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Yeah, they/them seems to be the best option here.
the Retromancer
I personally don't mind that.
Is them transforming counts as a spoiler btw? The work page is inconsistent on spoiler tags on that point. (Though the Characters page is spoilers off anyway)
Edited by Amonimus on Sep 8th 2022 at 12:23:24 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
FWIW yes, because the transformation happens in the last 10-15 minutes of the game but spoilers off is spoilers off. 
They/them, if we need any more votes for it.
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Should I holler for Morpheus to be resolved?
Edit: Figured out how it works
Edited by badtothebaritone on Sep 8th 2022 at 6:04:14 AM
Moving on to the next character, Najimi's Ambiguous Gender is the entire point of the character. The work itself uses Najimi in place of a pronoun when one is required (or just writes around it;) we should follow that as much as possible.
I see. Making sure nothing had changed in the past 200+ chapters. So you literally use Najimi/Najimi?
Edited by badtothebaritone on Sep 8th 2022 at 12:22:02 PM
I haven't watched the dub so I can't speak for it; my knowledge is from the manga (which I dropped a while ago) and sub. The sub played the pronoun dodging game, at least to the point I watched, which was before the dub existed so it may have since been Orwellian Retconned to match, if anyone cares to check. IIRC Netflix has done that before.
It's a good fallback pronoun, since the character could be transfeminine nonbinary or genderfluid.