Continuing from here
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Is Wiki/ an appropriate namespace? It's not a Medium, it just catches The Wiki Rule entries that have own pages. I believe there's not much that separates these from Website/.
There's just about 50 pages, so moving pages from Wiki/ to Website/ wouldn't take relatively long (That's still 10000 wicks, though it's only a matter of renaming). There are points that we don't really need Wiki/ as a namespace.
(This is pretty much a pitch to see if the idea of a yes/no crowner would be supported.)
There are also concerns that same pages, like Memory Alpha don't even have tropes, or like Harvey Girls Forever Fanon and The Worldbuild Project that lack quality control, so that's something that can be cleaned-up while at it. —- I'll repost the updated list from the first page with current progress. It can probably be pinned and updated as the progress goes on. I'll continue to move wicks meanwhile.
Pages that were cut for being stubs and will need cleanup and a move to the Website/ namespace to be recreated
- April Fools Scratch Wiki
- Big Nate COMMENTS Wiki
- Chaos Insurgency
- Darthipedia
- Deadliest Fiction Wiki
- Dream Fiction Wiki
- Fallout Unending Wastes — If moved, needs cleanup
- Harvey Girls Forever Fanon — If moved, needs cleanup
- Killerbunnies — If moved, needs cleanup
- Nickelodeon Fanon — If moved, needs cleanup
- Randomicity Wiki — If moved, needs cleanup
- Smegolia
- Trollpasta Wiki — If moved, needs cleanup
Pages that were cut for lacking tropability:
Completed namespace migrations:
- Fantendo
- Furry Basketball Association
- Multiverses Wiki
- Realm-Mesh Reality
- RPC Authority
- SCP Foundation
- The Ship Of Fools
- SporeWiki Fantasy Universe
- Takiraah
- TV Tropes
- Verse And Dimensions Wiki
- Wikipedia
Pages to be discussed at Wiki/ namespace.
- Uncyclopedia — Voted to keep, but the article is ZCE-ridden, Sandbox.Uncyclopedia was made for cleaning.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 5th 2023 at 6:10:44 AM
If it's good enough to keep, Website/.
I say cut the page for the Super Mario Wiki as there were hardly any tropes and two-thirds of the page were for the April Fool's Day jokes that NIWA pulled over the years.
Edited by FirstAidRules on Aug 10th 2022 at 4:46:11 AM
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
To be fair, April Fools jokes can be plenty tropeworthy.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure PurenessYeah, but there were hardly any tropes on the wiki as one of the few was Running Gag and there were a couple more but that was it.
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Fair, I don't care if it stays or goes, I'm playing devil's advocate.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
the Retromancer
While it's not how the rules work for trope pages, I kinda don't like counting "technical tropes" (Some work pages have Title Tropes and Personal Appearance Tropes only) which apply to things that just happen due to RL and not used to generate content.
Super Mario Wiki to me feels it's troping RL events only and not the actual insides of the site.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupAnd that's why I brought up to cut, because there's hardly anything about the Wiki and it's mostly about Real-Life stuff. There's also the Overshadowed by Controversy page talking about how the English Super Mario Bros. Encylopedia plagarized from the Mario Wiki.
Edited by FirstAidRules on Aug 10th 2022 at 5:22:34 AM
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Lost in Space
Amonimus is correct. To clarify and ensure we're on the same page, "filigree" elements like title and personal appearance tropes do not count for the minimum required to sustain a viable work article. We also cannot count YMMV and audience reactions, to the extent they would be allowed for RL-focused content anyway.
Edited by Fighteer on Aug 10th 2022 at 8:49:31 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
There are a couple of extra wikis and wiki-themed works in the Web Original namespace.
- Furry Basketball Association
- LMMCU
- Rusty XIV The Movie
- Smegolia
- Spore Wiki Fantasy Universe (itself a spin-off of the SporeWiki Fiction Universe)
- Takiraah
- Vresun Ciraian Ruins
Edited by FernandoLemon on Aug 10th 2022 at 11:46:56 AM
I'd like to apologize for all this.
Friends forevermore
Vresun is a fake work, so it's an easy cut. The others I'm not sure about.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.So, what would we do about the Super Mario Bros. Encylopedia mention under https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/OvershadowedByControversy/VideoGames?
it seems like a valid example, and since it's the book that's overshadowed and not the website, i don't see why the example couldn't stay, just with the wiki no longer wicked.
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
De-link or replace the link as appropriate, but otherwise keep the entry as-is.
Edited by FernandoLemon on Aug 10th 2022 at 12:03:38 PM
I'd like to apologize for all this.Got it. Thanks!
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I moved Wiki.TV Tropes and Wiki.Wikipedia to Website.TV Tropes and Website.Wikipedia, respectively, and moved over the indexing and redirects (including namespacing the redirects).
Edit: Oh, I missed that Fighteer said Wikipedia isn't tropable... that's what I get for being away from the thread and then popping back in while tired.
Well, if people want to move it to Useful Notes, I'll leave that up to further discussion, but I don't feel like going over that right now.
Edit: I discussed the Wikipedia page with Fighteer and I cut the examples and subpages since it's not considered a tropable work, and as I mentioned in the mod chat, whether should be moved from Website/ to UsefulNotes/ can be hashed out later.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 14th 2022 at 2:16:30 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
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Sandbox.TF Wiki Dot Net needs evaluating for tropeworthiness. Just from a skim, it seems so to me, though probably needs some cleanup.
- Humans Through Alien Eyes: A popular style for all humanity-specific articles, such as the ones for Kissing and Humanity itself.
- Interface Screw: Several pages have unique formatting to fit their subject matter:
- Wheelie's page is written entirely in rhyme.
- The page for The Lone Gunmen is written in the Courier font, to make it look like a document from The X-Files.
- Rewind's page is formatted as a bullet point list of factoids with literary citations, except for his More than Meets the Eye incarnation ("Did you know that Rewind in the IDW Generation 1 Comics was too prominent a character to continue summarizing his story simply as trivia factoids?").
- The text on the IDW Hasbro Wiki's page for Xamot Paoli is entirely aligned right, to be the mirror image his brother's page.
- Wheelie's
- In the Style of:
- Many of the articles are written in a way that homages a character's personality and/or speaking style, such as Wheelie's article being written entirely in rhyme (while being functional and informational the whole damn time), or the ones for Starscream's clones. This, along with its impressive accuracy, is a big reason as to why this site is so popular.
- For non-character examples, the introductory paragraph about multilingual packaging is presented in three different languages that change with every refresh, and the entire page for Marvel Comics is written in the style of Stan Lee.
- Every episode of the Transformers: Robots in Disguise anime starts off with a haiku in honor of Sky-Byte, the poetic Sharkticon from the show.
- The opening paragraph of Monstructor's page is written in the style of H. P. Lovecraft, since the old Dreamwave More Than Meets The Eye profile books depicted him as a near-Lovecraftian horror.
- Many of the articles are written in a way that homages a character's personality and/or speaking style, such as Wheelie's article being written entirely in rhyme
These examples tell me that the wiki involves a fair bit of creative writing, as opposed to being purely descriptive like most wikis. (Though the Interface Screw example looks like it should be Painting the Medium instead)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
That does seem tropeable, yeah.
Lol imagine if we determined that this wiki itself wasn't a tropeable site. Luckily even if we need to cleanup some things we fall under the "discussing creative concepts for review" clause considering that's our entire purpose.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Would you mind tidying it up? From a glance at a couple of screens of tropes, it's in very good shape already save for a few ZCE and should be ready to restore pretty quickly.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Neglected to mention that I added the namespace moves for Wiki.TV Tropes and Wiki.This Very Wiki to both Wick Cleaning Projects and Wick Namespace Migration. I generally don't list redirects separately from the target page like that, but since "This Very Wiki" is a long-running Fan Nickname that's ingrained in TV Tropes culture I figured it would be better to change the namespace instead of changing the entire link.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 14th 2022 at 2:56:42 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Okay I've done some cleanup of zces/misuse on the TF Wiki page and moved it to Website.TF Wiki Dot Net. Requesting restoral of the subpages:
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^ Restored.
Macron's notes
Thanks. Just finished moving all the wicks.
the Retromancer
Does The Dubbing Database have content? Doesn't seem so to me, most of it describes technical changes to the site.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Crown Description:
The Wiki/ namespace has been deprecated in favor of Website/. However, there have been concerns that some pages in the Wiki/ namespace are not tropable works and should be cut instead of being moved to Website/. Which of them should be cut?
Where do we move TF Wiki.net? It's a pretty notable wiki and had a ton of tropes, a Funny page and many links on different pages.
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