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Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Would adding "Literal" to the beginning of the name help? Or replacing "Post-" with "New"? Or calling it "Post-Soviet Reunion"? Otherwise, I'll take it to TLP and see what the hive mind suggests.
Edited by MarqFJA on Jun 19th 2022 at 9:05:12 PM
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Post Soviet Reunion I think is the best. New Soviet Union kind of implies the new union is still following communism/the soviet structure which may or may not be true.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
In hindsight, adding "Soviet Union avoids dissolution" as an alternative form last night was a bad idea, since that's just Alternate History and clashes with the basic concept. Thanks for the feedback.
EDIT: TLP draft is done.
Edited by MarqFJA on Jun 20th 2022 at 4:41:59 PM
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Loserswithwifi
Something I thought of today: villains with good or positive sounding names, like Mr Gently Benevolent from Bleak Expectations and Mr Sweet from Doctor Who S33 E11 "The Crimson Horror". I swear I've seen more examples but I can't think of any of them right now.
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Would "Scumbag Pimp" be tropeworthy?
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Is the idea of witnessing people arguing be a trope? Like, a character is unwillingly stuck listening to an argument that doesn't involve them? It's often dramatic but can also just be a source of awkward or dark comedy.
I suppose it's most often with kids hearing their parents fight, but that almost seems common and dramatic enough to be a subtrope.
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I guess that covers it. My thought is that "therapy session" is a bit too narrow for what I have in mind, but the examples include arguments so... sure?
Of note is that I did search but used "argument" which didn't produce results.
Edited by WarJay77 on Jun 20th 2022 at 2:20:43 PM
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"Hearing parents fight" is the image for Parental Issues, but that situation doesn't seem to be on the list.
Might there be space in "Underground Monkey" for when appearances relate to their stat variations, sort of like a Justified Trope version? Or is it not different enough even as it's "Not Just Using Palette Swap-s"?
- Wife Quest: The bustier purple-haired Lamiae, have more mass in comparison to the flat-chested, green-haired ones, and so are more durable by one Hit Point and don't suffer Knock Back.
Then there's basically everything on Heavily Armored Mook, where armor justifies more durability.
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So Critical Dissonance refers to when the critic and public perceptions of a piece of art are opposed. However, I think there should be a Sugar Wiki entry for art which both critics and the general public adore, perhaps called Critical Resonance. What are y'all's thoughts?
Angry babby
Even for Sugar Wiki, I don't know how relevant that'd be. It'd just list every work well-received by critics and audiences. Unless we have some sort of score cutoff point to make it the equivalent of So Bad It's Horrible or something.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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Critics and audiences agreeing is the norm, not the exception.
Would parodies of/references to the iconic "horse head" scene from The Godfather work as a trope? I've seen that scene get homaged all over the place, and yet I'm pretty sure we don't have a trope for it.
Angry babby
If it's distinct enough to not just stay on ReferencedBy.The Godfather, maybe?
Isn't there a broader trope about sending a dead animal part as a warning to someone?
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Yes, in that case, I think all examples would be covered by that.
Edited by mightymewtron on Jun 25th 2022 at 6:44:28 AM
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Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
Parodies of Godfather horse head should have a trope called Horse Head On Bed.
Kirby is awesome.
Remembered that Heart Symbol for Joy / Cuteness is probably different from Cardiovascular Love and Say It with Hearts.
Such as the image of High Koala-ty Cuteness.
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Heroic characters like Shrek tend to lack this, if I'm not mistaken. A token evil teammate or a friendly ogre might have them instead. If a heroic character does have bad foot pedicure, it's either played for comedy like a gross-up close-up, or it's done to show an otherwise upstanding character doesn't take very good care of themselves.
Wait, that isn't a page on this site yet? I've seen that so many times on humanoid creatures who are gross or dirty. Go for it.
I noticed that there is a trend of pairing together and/or juxtaposing gold and silver in fiction. Not necessarily as a direct superior and inferior respectively like they are often depicted, but instead as two similar yet distinct counterparts to one another, like the metallic equivalents of lemon and lime. I have several examples below that feature this particular portrayal of gold and silver, most of which use them as a general motif for a pair of foils (and there are many others that are shout-outs to Gold Horn and Silver Horn from Journey to the West, which I believe is a major influence behind this trope). Let me know if it seems tropeworthy enough.
- Eagles Gathered: In this obscure 2014 retelling of the Orpheus and Eurydice myth, the Silver Girl serves as the Orpheus stand-in, and the plot revolves around her mission to rescue her lover — the Golden Boy — from the underworld.
- Indivisible: In the Kaanul area, one of the minor NPCs the player can encounter are the Gold and Silver Twins, a pair of sisters with sharply contrasting personalities. When spoken to, one sister will claim that they arrived to Kaanul "for business", while the other will instead claim that they actually here "for vacation."
- Kirby Star Allies marks the return of Pon & Con, a collective Dual Boss completely absent since their debut in Kirbys Dreamland 3. During the late game, the player must fight a stronger, metallic version of the pair known as Goldon & Silvox, the former being a golden version of Pon, and the latter being a silver version of Con.
- Pokémon: For the sequel to the first set of games, its two main versions are labelled Gold and Silver, following the trend of naming the games of every generation after two related but contrasting objects or concepts. But unlike later games, the designs of each version's mascot Olympus Mon — the bird-like Ho-Oh and the dragon-like Lugia — do not incorporate gold or silver imagery. They are instead based on the phoenix/dragon dichotomy present in Japanese mythology.
- Super Sentai and Power Rangers: The Gold and Silver Rangers are recurring character archetypes who serve as the Sixth Rangers of the main team, often appearing as a duo where the two work closely together and sometimes having the ability to fuse together for a power boost.
- Go-Onger/RPM has Hiroto/Gem and Miu/Gemma, a Brother–Sister Team who wield daggers in combat that channel the powers of fire and ice respectively.
- Go-Busters/Beast Morphers has Masato Jin/Nate Silva and his robotic partner Beet J. Stag/Steel. The original Sentai counterparts combine this trope with Japanese Beetle Brothers, with Jin as the Kabutomushi and J as the Kuwagatamushi.The latter motif is less apparent with the Power rangers counterparts, but are portrayed as an honorary Sibling Team due to Steel sharing Nate's DNA.
- Lupinranger VS Patranger has Noel Takao, who combines both the Gold and Silver rangers as a Composite Character. Whenever he assists either the Patrangers or the Lupinrangers as Patren X and Lupin X respectively, he dons one of two different suits depending on which team he is on. In his Patren X identity, he dons a stylish, lighweight golden suit that allows him to dodge attacks with acrobatic ease. As Lupin X, he dons a heavier, armored silver that can withstand a lot more punishment than the former.
Edited by Unnerving_Posterior on Jun 27th 2022 at 7:50:25 AM
Reminds me of Solar and Lunar.
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Though if you're really married to the name, you can bring the idea w/ the name to the TLP to hear others' opinions on the matter.
Edited by amathieu13 on Jun 19th 2022 at 1:46:22 PM