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Sammettik Someone from There Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In denial
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#1: May 21st 2020 at 12:42:16 PM

The Missingno really needs a rename. People seem to think the Trope Namer making an appearance instantly qualifies as an example.

If Scrappy Doo makes an cameo in a work is that automatically The Scrappy? No.

If Starscream makes a cameo is that automatically The Starscream? No.

Is a character named Mary Sue guaranteed to be a Mary Sue? No.

The "Missingno" in Reset Bloodlines, Starter Squad and Atop The Fourth Wall (which I've had to pull three times already) are all Missingno In Name Only. I guarantee if they or this trope were named anything else, those examples would not have been added.

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Edited by Sammettik on Jun 11th 2020 at 7:56:30 AM

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#2: Jun 9th 2020 at 8:24:22 AM

Opening.

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#3: Jun 9th 2020 at 9:28:16 AM

Glitch Character is already a redirect. Swapping the current name with that sounds like a good idea, unless someone comes up with something better.

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#4: Jun 9th 2020 at 11:41:06 AM

Support the change to Glitch Character.

There also appears to be a redirect from Missingno that should be removed.

Edited by JXZ on Jun 9th 2020 at 2:45:40 PM

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#7: Jun 9th 2020 at 3:15:41 PM

Hold on a minute. Doesn't the page state that items also count under this trope? Glitch Character would be too narrow.

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#8: Jun 9th 2020 at 3:40:29 PM

oh my god why do we still have a page for Paraphore it is a game in which the player character sexually abuses children

[tup] Glitch Character

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#9: Jun 9th 2020 at 5:19:23 PM

IF Glitch Character is too narrow, would Glitch Entity be more broadly-encompassing?

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#10: Jun 9th 2020 at 6:36:46 PM

[up]I think it would be.

Edit: Took a closer look at the description (I was tired when I made my previous post; I've slept since then), and yes, it is also for items. Because of that, I'm changing my vote from Glitch Character to Glitch Entity.

Maybe we could keep Glitch Character around as a redirect to Glitch Entity, and also make a new Glitch Item redirect.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 9th 2020 at 8:42:02 AM

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#11: Jun 9th 2020 at 7:52:26 PM

Sounds like a plan. Another vote for Glitch Entity.

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#13: Jun 9th 2020 at 8:53:57 PM

Another vote for the name Glitch Entity.

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#14: Jun 10th 2020 at 6:12:40 PM

[tup] Rename to Glitch Entity, then, with redirects at Glitch Character, Glitch Item, and Missingno.

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#16: Jun 11th 2020 at 7:28:48 AM

I dunno... some part of me worries the name Glitch Entity would attract misuse of people adding characters that aren't glitches but have a glitchy aesthetic (E.G. the Starter Squad and Atop The Fourth Wall versions of Missingno.) and we'd be right back where we started.

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#18: Jul 9th 2020 at 11:18:00 PM

Is this consensus?

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#19: Jul 9th 2020 at 11:44:29 PM

[up]I made a crowner in case there isn't already enough consensus. If there already is enough consensus, I figured the mods could just ignore the crowner.

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#21: Jul 12th 2020 at 7:13:09 PM

Glitch Sprite sounds perfect for what are currently labeled as "in-universe" examples; characters/items that aren't actually a glitch in the software, but have a glitchy aesthetic, such as Vanellope von Schweetz from Wreck-It Ralph or “not_intended” from BoxxyQuest: The Gathering Storm.

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#24: Jul 13th 2020 at 7:06:19 PM

Glitch items (which would be covered by the Glitch Entity name, alongside glitch characters) don't always have associated sprites. Pokémon Red and Blue, which provided the current trope name, have plenty of glitch items, but most of them don't have associated sprites; they only have names (a lot of which are garbled text).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 13th 2020 at 9:14:02 AM

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Laukku from Finland Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#25: Jul 14th 2020 at 1:16:09 AM

I also prefer Glitch Entity over Glitch Sprite for this trope, because the former covers non-visual examples and the latter implies any instance where a sprite becomes garbled regardless of a new entity being formed.

Edited by Laukku on Jul 14th 2020 at 11:16:38 AM

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9th Jul '20 11:42:02 PM

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The Missingno is frequently misused. Should it be renamed?

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