As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.
This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.
See here for a list of needed disambigs.
The List
- Film.The Lost World
- Series.Utopia
- Series.Kidnapped (2006 NBC Cop Show) (20 wicks)
- Series.The Street
- VideoGame.Star Wars Battlefront
- VideoGame.Star Wars Battlefront II
- WesternAnimation.Fantasia
- WesternAnimation.Max Steel
Similar Issues
- Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.
- Ransom: YMMV.Ransom only has Film entries, but Characters.Ransom is trying to be a disambig to Characters.Ransom Film and Characters.Ransom TV... Trivia.Ransom needs to be split.
- Film.Deadlands is conflicting with the Tabletop Game. Maybe move to its redirect, Film.The Dead Lands?
- Series.The Untouchables: It's holding multiple versions in there...
Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM
There is the creepypasta Literature.Doors and the 2022 VideoGame.Doors.
Would moving them to Literature.Doors Creepypasta and VideoGame.Doors 2022 be a good idea? The former does say "Credited to aCJohnson" though.
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Pantheon Wick CleaningThen, the Doors Roblox game could be moved to VideoGame.Doors Roblox, with the custom title Doors (Roblox).
I'd be fine with that.
So I'm thinking the Main.Doors will look something like this (should I hide the disambiguating words?):
- Doors (Roblox), the Roblox horror game.
- Doors 2022, the First-Person Shooter game by Trimato3D.
- "Doors (Creepypasta)" the creepypasta by aCJohnson.
- The Doors, the American rock band.
- The Doors (Album), their self-titled debut album.
There's also Film.The Door (a 2008 short film), and I'd like to make a page for this creepypasta of the same name, probably at Literature.The Door Creepypasta. Should those be included here?
Edited by BlackFaithStar on Apr 2nd 2024 at 11:53:09 PM
Pantheon Wick CleaningBumping my last question, but also bringing up another clash.
Film.Night Shift is a 1982 comedy film, Literature.Night Shift is a short story collection by Stephen King that was published in 1978, and VideoGame.Night Shift is a short horror game by Puppet Combo from 2018.
Would disambiguating by year be acceptable here?
Edited by BlackFaithStar on Apr 8th 2024 at 4:24:44 PM
Pantheon Wick CleaningDisambig by year. And in the doors thing the disambiguating words aren't meant to be hidden.
Edited by animuacid on Apr 8th 2024 at 7:35:02 PM
Since Primal (2019) shares its title and release year with a Nicholas Cage film
Could Primal (Genndy Tartakovsky) work instead?
For the film
I could go with Primal (Nick Powell) or Primal (Nicholas Cage)
How about Primal (Thriller)
Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Apr 9th 2024 at 11:25:45 PM
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectWhat about move the show's page to the expanded title redirect: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal?
As for the film, I lean towards Primal (Thriller). Or the director name but I'm not sure.
Edited by BlackFaithStar on Apr 10th 2024 at 2:16:59 AM
Pantheon Wick CleaningIt's a "Creator's Title" situation, and although it's official, the "Title" part is significantly more prominent so I don't like that.
The better option is probably to leave the animated show as is and move the film to Film.Primal Nick Powell. (Also, if we go by actor instead it's Nicolas Cage, not Nicholas.)
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.Does there need to be a redirect for Cargo? Two of the listed works don't have a page.
"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".Page or not, the works do exist, so that's enough of a reason for me to defend pre-emptive disambiguation.
I don't think preemptive disambigs are allowed anymore, and I personally think it should be un-disambiguated.
Should VideoGame.Smart Ball Game Freak be moved back to VideoGame.Smart Ball? It doesn't have any subpages, and the only thing it shares a name with is the trope Smart Ball (tropes can't have the same subpages that works can). Avatar by Butterscotch Arts. Used under license.
Is this the right place to discuss works in the same franchise that share a page?
No, that would be this thread.
Avatar by Butterscotch Arts. Used under license.It's certainly unusual for a work to be disambiguated from a trope if there's no subpage or custom title collision, but it's my preferred way of doing things, and because the video game is already disambiguated it might as well stay there.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.I want to make a page for the New 52 Green Lantern series. My problem is that the namespace is taken by Green Lantern (2011). Since I'm trying to move away from using era's for disambiguations, I can't use Green Lantern New 52, and I'm not sure what to call the page. I can't use Green Lantern Geoff Johns either because his run encompasses Green Lantern (2005) too. So I'm at a loss. Can anyone suggest anything?
It's gonna be fun on the bun!In this case, New 52 is the best disambiguation available.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.Film.Body Count 1994 and VideoGame.Body Count 1994 are having overlapping disambiguations. the Video Game can easily be Rail Shooter, but what about the movie?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306582/
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576[1] (on Primal)
The full title is Genndy Tartakovsky’s Primal: Tales of Savagery, so maybe we could go with WesternAnimation.Primal Tales Of Savagery
I just noticed that the title of the trope Wild Card is rendered as WILD/CARD. There are multiple works with the same title, and the rendering belongs to WebVideo.Wild Card. I think that these works might need to be disambiguated, but most importantly, the custom title rendering should be removed.
Edited by petersohn on Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:18:01 PM
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.Fixed. As you said, it was a botched attempt to custom title a work, which hit the trope by accident; the work has since been disambiguated.
Edited by bwburke94 on Apr 28th 2024 at 3:56:18 PM
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.I noticed that WebVideo.Re View shares its name with Series.Review and Main.Review, despite the fact that one has a capital V in the middle and the other two don't. This is awkward because the web video should really be styled/WikiWord-ed as "re:View", but we can't have that style on one page without affecting the others. (I submitted a request to change the style to "re:View" before I noticed the problem.)
So, how does this usually work? I know a lot of works get disambiguated by year, but I don't know if that applies to series that span multiple years. (The TV show ran from 2014 to 2017, and the web videos started in 2016 and continue today.)
Maybe change the web video to WebVideo.Re View Red Letter Media?
UPDATE: Requested a page move at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16904411670A79380200&page=36#comment-900
Edited by FactoidCow on May 4th 2024 at 9:20:11 AM
ComicBook.Hilda And The Mountain King 2019 is disambiguated, while its adaptation, WesternAnimation.Hilda And The Mountain King, is not, as the latter page was created first. Any objection to changing it so that the original work is undisambiged and the adaptation is disambiged?
I'd leave the title without the year number as a disambiguation, and have both the original and the adaptation the year number.
Edit: Although if it's a direct adaptation, it might be OK to have the same title for both works, and soft split the YMMV and such pages.
Edited by petersohn on May 15th 2024 at 8:31:07 PM
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.
I'm delayed a bit due to family drama.
Will work (slowly) on another Batman Returns game page.